Tue 14 Feb 2006
A collection of images highlighting the destruction in Lebanon.
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Many thanks for your understanding.
A.D.
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July 14th, 2006 at 4:20 pm
the evil can strike it can distroy us and erase us but if we are united we can beat it and we will beat it !
united we stand facing the evil attaks on our beloved country ….
god bless Lebanon and its ppl .
July 14th, 2006 at 4:51 pm
que dieu nous garde et nous sauve de ceux qui ont l’intention de nous detruire!
ils savent pas qu’on est un peuple dure,imbattable et qu’on aime la vie et la paix!?
c’est fou de voir juskou peut aller la bêtise humaine!!!
July 14th, 2006 at 5:11 pm
C’est pas croyable de voir tout un monde silencieux face a ces évenements atroces, pourtant ni la nature ni le seigneur ne nous ont dépourvu de coeur… la mort ne choisit pas ses victimes parait-il mais l’homme,si,,,ce ne sont pas ceux qui meurent qui sont les plus faibles, non, ce sont bien ceux qui les tuent qui le sont, ceux ki meurent en martyre n’ont jamais accepté de mourir en lache mais bien les armes a la main et les bourreaux sont connu pour venir ou bien de dos ou bien avec un visage caché, par lacheté sans aucun doute, parcequ’eux même ont du mal a voir le résultat de leur geste inhumain…
ke le seigneur préserve ceux qui souffrent pour avoir refusé de se mettre a genoux et ke le courage aveugle les assaillants…
July 14th, 2006 at 5:18 pm
May God have mercy on the civilians
No one has the right to target them like that.
July 14th, 2006 at 5:32 pm
proverbe algerien
la determination perce le marbre
que dieu preserve et protege le liban
un ami algerien
July 14th, 2006 at 5:44 pm
All this destruction after only two days of Israeli attacks! And they promised us a “long war”…
Israeli warplanes, gunships and tanks are hitting Lebanese civilians in their homes, and destroying our infrastructure that took 15 years of sacrifices to build…
Who will protect the innocent??
July 14th, 2006 at 6:59 pm
Stick together until the storm passes…
July 15th, 2006 at 3:47 am
I hope this passes alright, i’m praying every day for this to end.. thank you israel for destroying our airport, cutting all the bridgers and roads and bombing a hospital
July 15th, 2006 at 4:34 am
It is not anymore a matter of a party but rather a matter of a 6000 years old nation.
Lebanon will again enrich the world history book with pages of glory, freedom and dignity.
Justice shall prevail…
July 15th, 2006 at 4:56 am
Dieu dit dans le coran :
(DIEU DEFENT LES CROYAN)
Dieu sait aue les libanais sont des croyants, chretiens soient ils ou musulmans, unissez vous mes amis et pour ceux qui souhaiteraient venir en Algerie trouverons leurs freres algeriens.
De tout coeur votre frere Fathi
July 15th, 2006 at 10:46 am
wir beten Für den Libanon, für den Frieden in diesem Land, für die Leute die unter Terror und Krieg unter Hass und Zerstörung leiden und Sterben. Gott wir beten dich erhöre uns. Amen
July 15th, 2006 at 11:01 am
many lebanese people is diying my country is alling down, it’s not about hizbullah or any party in lebanon it’s a matter of 4 millions who livesin this country, god be with us and god protect us.
July 15th, 2006 at 11:16 am
Translation of what the maronite Church in Frankfurt said:
We pray for the Lebanese, for peace in this country, for people that suffer from terror and war under hate and destruction & death. God we pray for you.
Amen
Thank you
July 15th, 2006 at 3:32 pm
Une destruction en regle d’un pays, plus de cent civils tues… tout ca pour 2 soldats? J’ai du mal a reconnaitre le principe de proportionalite des conventions de Geneve, pourtant signees et ratifiees part tout le monde, US, UK et Allemagne compris. Alors MM. Bush, Blair et Mme Merkel, vous trouvz toujours ca ‘justifie’??
July 16th, 2006 at 6:21 am
These pictures will only show the true evil intention of Jehova jewish God towards our people our Land our infrastructure. To all my compatriots and beloved Lebanese united we stand united we die.
Deuteronomy 12
Destruction of every sacred object or place of Canaan people
12:2You shall surely destroy all the places in which the nations that you shall dispossess served their gods, on the high mountains, and on the hills, and under every green tree: 12:3and you shall break down their altars, and dash in pieces their pillars, and burn their Asherim with fire; and you shall cut down the engraved images of their gods; and you shall destroy their name out of that place.
إن أزكـــــى الشــــــهادات هي شـــــــــهادة الـــــدم
الحياة وقفط عز
July 16th, 2006 at 7:24 am
The fighting must stop…the world must intervene…we need a voice of reason…lebanon needs help..not from America! from Allah…he is our only help…Ya allah please have mercy on us all…Help Lebanon and destroy Israel
Samah
July 16th, 2006 at 7:29 am
Usually i have everything to say, but in this period of time, where lebanon is vanishing in front of our eyes and where we are standing watching our nation falling unable to save it, I see my self speechless, unable to say a word.
To our brothers in the south, Resist
To Our brothers in the southern suburbs of beirut, Resist
To us, citizens of the “relatively safe” lebanon, prepare to resist.
God protect us, Virgin Mary, forgive our sins and prepare yourself to welcome us…
Chief
July 16th, 2006 at 7:38 am
It’s mind boggling how in year 2006, no one in the world dares say anything, some go further and blindly support Israel and its terrorist atrocities, while Lebanon, the smallest and weakest country in the region is attacked by the country with one of the biggest military arsenals in the world. Lebanon has been isolated but not only on the ground.
God have mercy on this tiny country, God bless Lebanon and every Lebanese, w nshalla we all get to go together to Lebanon and start rebuilding what that heartless monster called Israel destroyed.
I know, as ever, we will not break.
Let’s have some faith and pray to all the Lebanese.
July 16th, 2006 at 7:40 am
I am now talking and pointing my speech only and only people in the world who are over than dumb minded.
People common they are in our countries and they could make us believe and succeeded in making thier public believe that muslims are terrorists.
Can anyone believe that they are invading us and say that we are terrorists. Just live with your logic and try to live the situation without listening to the advertisements of Israel and USA.
July 16th, 2006 at 7:42 am
This is why Hezbollah was formed… so that this Injustice would never fall into the laps of the Lebanese and yet this time they are the cause.
Don’t ask for mercy! we’re under attack by the merciless, may the world feel our pain and rush to our aid on this Injustice. Anyone who can do something should, no country deserves to be bullied like this, to suffer like this….
The Israelis are calling for a war, they’re challenging the world they tauntingly say… “What will you do?”, “Who dares to challenge us?”, in all their arrogance with the support of the American Senate.
They will pay. BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY THEY WILL PAY!. (God bless the innocent)
July 16th, 2006 at 7:46 am
I am in the UK, but praying for my Muslim and Christian brothers and sisters in Lebanon. What the Israelis are doing is simply unbelievable. They are carrying out their avowed intention to push Lebanon 20 years back. The Israelis and Americans must not be allowed to carry on killing innocent civilians.
July 16th, 2006 at 7:48 am
Qui dans le monde peut arrêter ce gouvernement d’amateurs qui sont tous devenus des criminels de guerre. Ce monstre fou ne connaît que l’occupation et l’usurpation par la force, de la terre et des biens d’autrui? Il menace la paix au Proche-Orient avec sa possession de l’armement nucléaire et un comportement continuellement hostile.
Est-ce ainsi que ces “touristes passants” s’intègreront dans cette grande région du Croissant fertile, où la première forme de civilisation de l’Histoire de l’humanité a vu le jour? Non deux fois non!
Deux soldats faits prisonniers et on dirait que ces “amateurs” de la guerre aveugle en découvrent les risques ? Combien d’hommes, de femmes et d’enfants civils sont prisonniers des israéliens? 10 000.
Qu’ils osent venir ces lâches, un soldat contre un résistant et nous leur montreront comment dans une lutte équitable loin des civils, les vrais habitants de cette terre resteront libres chez eux et les “touristes” retourneront d’où ils sont venus. .
VIVE LA RESISTANCE LIBANAISE HEROIQUE, VIVE LE LIBAN.
July 16th, 2006 at 8:58 am
even if they killed us, we have learned during the history how to turn the death into life, Damage into creativity.
God bless Lebanon.
July 16th, 2006 at 9:40 am
the photos says it all…
the zion barberianism through out the ages was and is always the same but of different colours and shades.This what their talmud is all about, This their doctrine and their belief and this their act
the writer of “MEIN KAMPF” was wright about them in many ways.
July 16th, 2006 at 10:46 am
Salut tout le monde. j’éspère que mon message sera lu par un grand nombre de personnes. Je suis Libanaise et je vis au Liban. Au fait mon quartier n’est pas si loin de Dahyé, la région bombardée du Hezbollah, mais n’est pas visée du tout (du moins pas encore). Ce que vous voyez a la television n’est rien. Ce que vous ecoutez n’est rien. Dahyé n’est plus qu’un creux au milieun de Beyrouth… Le nombre de morts a facilement atteind 200 personnes. Le nombre de blessés est tres elevé. On ne voit plus ni soleil ni lune tellement le ciel est encombré de nuages gris a cause de la fumée… Chaque bombe cause un tremblement de terre qui fait vibrer tout Beyrouth et son entourage. Le son des bombes est tellement fort qu’on peut l’entendre jusqu’a 15km. Au Sud, des massacres! DES GENOCIDES!! Les israeliens visent les citoyens en fuite. Des enfants, des femmes, des vieux… sans pitié ils sont déchiquetés en morceaux. Ils viennent tout juste de bombarder un quartier a Sour en visant un immeuble de 12 étages et les victimes sont au nombre de dizaines. Le reporter de LBC y était et il parlait en direct, halleté, en fuyant décrivant l’atroce image devant ses yeux: des gens en lambeaux… des enfants qui ont perdu leurs membres… le sang coulant dans les rues…
Le Liban sera détruit de cette facon, metre apres metre, si les Nations “Puissantes” n’agissent pas! Aidez nouz je vous en supplie… faites quelque chose pour les enfants du monde… nos enfants…
Le Liban se noie dans une mer rouge de sang…
July 16th, 2006 at 10:49 am
Meet Israel.
July 16th, 2006 at 2:04 pm
God help Lebanon in these harsh times and protect its people from this darkness.
July 16th, 2006 at 2:10 pm
God bless all lebanese and palestinians , i am syrian ,, i live in USA , i wish that i can do something ,, but .. al what i can say F. Israel , and alla yer7am kil el shuhada … god bless lebanon
July 16th, 2006 at 2:10 pm
Being from the US, I am again ashamed by our “government” and our “allies”. I wish the world knew that most of our citizens do NOT support this type of aggression by Israel. How DARE they use two kidnapped soldiers as an excuse to open this type of destruction. I am not a fan of Hezbollah (sp?), but the Lebanese people are wonderful, beautiful people and they do not deserve such treatment.
July 16th, 2006 at 2:55 pm
Israel’s attack on innocent people in both Palestine and Lebannon is thoroughly disgusting. Anyone backing Israel’s overly agressive and reckless actions need only see the pictures of these dead children.
July 16th, 2006 at 3:22 pm
this is the right of defense that g bush gave to the jewish…i want to ask this idiot how much u are being paid to say such stuffs…the best thing u can do is shut ur mouth forever…cause u never say a thing that help…And in the end u talk about humanity?…Or those who work for the UN…Group of cowards affraid of losing the chairs that they are sitting at…Open ur eyes today is lebanon…tomorrow?no one knows who will get attacked…cause jewish have no friends…
July 16th, 2006 at 3:45 pm
every one who was against disarming huzballa deserves it . sorry for not being sympathetic i am like that by nature .sadly without mass mascares this country won’t ever progress .and ofcourse israel is to be blamed for attacking civilians . but huzballa started the war that we didnt need..especially in this time of year the summer vacation and with such an unmerficul enemy.
July 16th, 2006 at 3:57 pm
not only would i like to see global leaders take action, but i would like the rest of the arab leaders to take a stand and help us… we are at war… and we are falling into a pit of despair..and the whole world has turned its cheek… someone needs to take action…and if it must be us, the people suffering from the blindness and ignorance of these mean, let it be…. lease God save us and be with us and guide us…
July 16th, 2006 at 4:03 pm
kenet mfakra ino ba3ed fi shwayet amal be lebnen…
i was wrong..
we are doomed..
and noone even cares..
kelon mkhabeeyin ta7et el ared w ne7na 3am nekol el dareb…
law 3andon rab maken sar hek…
bas what can i say..
kenet defe3 3an lebnen….halla2 batal fi lebnen 7at defe3 3ano…
god be with us…
July 16th, 2006 at 4:12 pm
please help make it stop!! we are losing too many innocent people please stop it!! 5alas the only people getting hurt are innocent people!! whether here or there…. the innocent people are paying the price of the arrogance of our leaders… “where do you expect us to go when the bombs fall?”
July 16th, 2006 at 4:17 pm
Have you no hearts ? killing innocent children and women , helpless in the face of the zionists , all in the name of self defence as Mr. BUSH says … i pitty a man of his importance to take a stand without asking where or why … or how … shame on him , and all those who remain silent. those who have fallen are not martyrs , they are victims , that have not fallen in a war , but in massacure - in geoncide…. but what they dont know , is when they destroy the bombs and homes , and all of the resistance , or fighters as they would say , they arnt even close to killing or finnishing off hezbullah , because hezbullah is not guns , it is not fighters .. it is the soul … it is the heart of the southern people , and no matter what they do , they have taken their homes , their money , their chances of ever having a bright future , even their last peice of dignity , they have nothing left to lose , because they can take it all they can destroy it all but they can never break our spirits …. to them now … death is just a word , or should i say a small step towards their victory ….
July 16th, 2006 at 4:59 pm
well what should i say
u r all sayin how hurtful it is to live in war and u couldn’t handle 5 days of continous damage and military acts and u r all condemin the arab silence in the face of this merciless enemy.
what do u have to say for ppl who have been livin this horrifying fact everyday for over half a centurey under the bombs and attacks of Israel and no body asked about them. no body even cared to hear the screams of children and senile ppl and helpless women breastfeedin their infants for help and security and food………………………………
God help all those who needs him
July 16th, 2006 at 5:13 pm
Disarm Hizb’allah!!! That is the only way to get back to peace. Disarm them or kill them, it’s their own tragedy
July 16th, 2006 at 5:30 pm
its time its time for u sleeping beauty’s to wake up yes i mean all the arab presidents and all the arab people u have 2 do some thing naw its the time for u to wake up people its time lebanon is a small part of this world leave it alone…
July 16th, 2006 at 5:37 pm
There’s nothing much to say abt this ongoing massacre against the lebanese ppl i beleive the pictures say more than anyone can imagine …
I Just want to say to Mr. hassan nasrallah, in fact to all other “great” leaders that support this war and consider it a HOLY war, im asking them to stop this nonsense and all the lies they r tellin to the arab ppl, if they want a war let them fight it on their own territories and with their own life, not on the expense of innocent civilians and citizens that have worked so hard for more than 20 years to rebuild a country torn apart by WAR !!!
And plz i want everyone to remember who helped build lebanon who went from country to country seeking help for lebanon merci upon his soul, and god be with his son that wont let us down.
July 16th, 2006 at 5:39 pm
May God help Lebanon and forgive the ignorant people causing this!
July 16th, 2006 at 6:18 pm
Even they destroy our coutry we still here to protect our family and everone who needs our help
They are jellous because our coutry were prospering,the two soldiers rested are just a excuse to invade lebanon and dostroy everthing
I don’t live in lebenon but i know how is the pain because i have a family there
They really don’t have heart because if they have,they wouldn’t kill chlidrens like they are doing
This is like a horror movies bbut when everthing pass and it will but with a lot of lost we gonna have our vengeance and will be the time to tthem feel what we are felling now
July 16th, 2006 at 6:20 pm
God bless our beloved Lebanon.i live in canada we had today a peaceful demonstration, unbelievable how lebanese people were unified. i was reading the posts and guys it is harmful to know lebanese people saying lebanese deserve it,the war needed just an excuse to begin again,this was their only way to put their rules,it is about a politic road drawn and it is very obvious in our media here, nobody is seiing their unhuman actions.It it not the first time they attack us, we will rebuilt Lebanon again we will turn the death to life and LEBANON WILL STAY.
July 16th, 2006 at 6:21 pm
And just one more little thing…
We have to do something to stop that!!This is not right they are just killing innocent people why do they do their war hurting their soldiers?Why innocent people have to pay by their mistakes and thei stupids thoughts?Why?
July 16th, 2006 at 6:37 pm
Mr. Hasan Nasrallah what were u thinkin? or were u thinkin at all? or u were just followin orders? is this what freedom means to u? Do u take us for fools? just tell us does really samir il kintar mean much more to u then the babies nd children not mentionning the womn nd men? today u want lebanese prisonners in israel right? don’t u want the ones in SYRIA? or demanding nd fighting for those would be defying ur leaders? aren’t they worse a fight also? let’s take few syrians as hostage nd trade them for he lebanese ppl in the syrian GUANTANAMO. how about that?
u want the government to defend u now and stand by ur side right? y wuold she do that? u took her for a fool.. u sat nd discussed for a long time in AL HIWAR IL WATANI lebanon’s future, and now u decided to take things in ur own way.. well good for u. deal with the consequences!! When u used to walk in the room the considere u as the man who defended lebanon and it’s territories.. now i believe that ur no more then a man who is a follower? u say u r fighting the war for the arab nd islamic nation right? then how come among all the arab nd islamic countries ur the only one who thinks so? could it be that they are all wrong nd ur right? ( m not comsidering syria or iran among these countries cuz as u know they r one nd we lebanese r just tools they move).
i would really like to seee once again lebanese prisonners in israel back to their homeland, but i don’t think that they r any better then the innocent children, women, or men… don’t u?
u want the un or the arab summet to take a decision and stick by it and apply it? u want israel to sign it nd respect it.. well guess this time u dind’t respect it u crossed the blue line… so y would u need a UN agreement? or even a decision!! u don’t understand what an agreement is!!!
it’s the first time that u r the one to blame!!!!
i am shocked about the timing of this operation!!just when lebanon got back on his feet nd iran failed all meeting that ur BROTHERS or MASTERS asked u ( moe like ordered u) to go for it!!!
nice goin…
we lebanese ppl unfortunately reached a point where we really want u to go away nd leave us …
we dn’t need ur iranian leaders’ money to rebuild lebanon!! we rather stay in ruin!!!!
w alla yir7am illi 3ammar!!!
just back off lebanon!!! nd dn’t be such a chicken in ur tv appearances!!! eventually they will find u in a hole underground just like saddam!!! so why don’t u solve the problem be4 it gets worse!!! pride has no place in situations like this…
July 16th, 2006 at 6:43 pm
Le liban s’est donc tuer pour se reconstruire s ‘est donc tuer pour survivre a toute ses guerres pourquoi?!
est ce une maniere de dire au liban et au libannais que jamais vous aurez votre independence est ce qu on a vraiment deja ete libre?! est ce que tout ca est a cause de deux soldats?! moi je ne crois pas je crois surtout que des raison ils vont toujours en trouver car y en a toujours qui vont les provoquer des innocents des enfants qui ne savent meme pas ce que ca veux dire une guerre un conflits sont morts je vois la des images qui me donne de la compation alors de ce fait ne baisser pas les bras ne baisser pas vos cries ne baisser pas votre pantalon j aime le liban je suis libannais de sang et fiere vive la paix et vive le liban
July 16th, 2006 at 6:54 pm
Dear Lama,
I totally understand your rage now on hezbolla, and they have a big responsibility in what’s going on, but now the war has started, we can do nothing. We have to stay united, or at least don’t send blames, because this won’t help all those who have died, all we can do is keep UNITED. My prayers to all those who died and to all those who lost loved ones and those who have no home.
July 16th, 2006 at 9:03 pm
I am praying for peace and safe in this country as well as in all nations.
Peace of God!
July 16th, 2006 at 9:06 pm
Let’s face it. This is not our war, we are just the victims here. If Hozballah consider themselves lebanese, they would not sacrifice their country for somebody else’s cause; I (a true Lebanese) would not. Israel is beeing very irresponsible as to selecting it’s targets and destroying our beloved land; We should keep calling upon the world to intervene, but once they do, we, as lebanese people should be responsible enough to clean our country from the cancer that is causing our destruction, and those that want to destroy Israel, they should do it out of Syria or Iran and not out of our Jnoub and Beirut. Our unity should evolve around peace. Peace with ourselves and with our neighbours, all of our neighbours.
July 16th, 2006 at 9:36 pm
Nous implorons ton secours, Seigneur, pour celles et ceux qui souffrent dans leur chair de l’injustice et de la violence qui règnent dans ces régions : les réfugiés, les déplacés, les prisonniers, les blessés… Accorde-leur le réconfort de ta présence, la solidarité de leurs frères, au près et au loin.
Que l’ensemble de ces peuples vive dans la paix, la dignité et le respect mutuels, quelle que soit leur appartenance religieuse ou communautaire, leur origine géographique et leur culture.
Visite, Seigneur, celles et ceux qui osent œuvrer à la paix, dans la vérité et la justice. Amen !
FINISSEZ CETTE GUERRE, DÉSARMEZ-VOUS, SVP..
Merci de les aider, mon Dieu. Mon souhait le plus sincère: que le bon Dieu vous aide, le peuple libanais au plus vite possible. Soyez forts.
Silvia
July 16th, 2006 at 9:59 pm
J’ai un grand chagrin pour ce Liban qui a mit tant d’année à se remettre sur pieds. Il a ete demolit plusieurs fois, et reconstruit de nouveau… et voila que ca recommence. Quand est ce qu’ils vont laisser tranquille, ce petit pays qui ne veut que vivre dans la paix.les gens ont beaucoup souffert et c’est toujours les innocents qui paient le prix des betises des autres.Je veux juste dire que je prie fort pour le peuple libanais et je prie pour mes parents qui sont alles en vacances au liban et qui ne peuvent plus y revenir. que dieu soit avec vous.
July 16th, 2006 at 10:45 pm
god bless lebanon , from a syrian guy to lebanon ,, god bless you …..
July 16th, 2006 at 10:52 pm
offcourse lebanese people everything happens , syria syria syria , lak 50 % of you fled to syria ,, considering protecting you right now , all what you do is to say syria did this and syria did that , tle3na min baladkon and ur saying syria , 2ata3na 7ukometkon mshan ma t2oolo walla syria tda5alet ma3 hek ma 5lesna , hada 7izballa yalli 2a3de 3am tbahdlee , he defended ur country for a very long time , talla3 israel minna , lawla 7ezballa lebanon and palestine are the same , people would be suiciding by now without him , you want to tell me that all this party because of 2 soldiers , its planned long time ago , if its not USA would stop that by now bas 3ala 2asas usa a good friend of lebanon halla2 shefnaha , again , mish kil ma sar shi syria and iran .. walla without these people you would be palestine number 2 by now ,, and i hope these lebanese people who are sayingv ” SYRIA” see that thank you … God bless us all ..
July 16th, 2006 at 10:53 pm
Comme le montre ces photos, qui parlent, des enfants innocents figurent parmi les victimes des attaques israeliennes sauvages sur le Liban.
Ces enfants ont surement reve un jour de devenir “un medecin, un architecte ou un artiste…”
Le reve est perdu… et maintenant des milliers d’enfants libanais qui ont perdus leurs amis ou leurs cousins vont rever de devenir “terroristes”…….
July 16th, 2006 at 11:41 pm
God bless you !
God bless Lebanon, the Lebanese, the martyrs and the Lebanese resistance and on one else.
they are all watching and closing their eyes so they dont need them. please god help them.
if we beleive in god our victory will come one day no matter what it take long.
after this massacre i beleive who say there no word called arabian there is only lebanese .
Pray for lebanon and for the lebanese!!!!!!!
god help us all!
July 17th, 2006 at 12:10 am
The ugly face of the Israeli monster has been shown. Israel has been massacring Palestinians for years, at the same time killing reporters and clamping down on coverage.
The monster got so arrogant, it attacked a sovereign, democratic nation, but this one *HAS* the media and cameras and ability to get the images out. The vile actions of the Israeli state are unacceptable by any and all standards, and finally provide a definition for “Evil”.
Palestine, Lebanon… and yesterday four missiles laned 200m on the other side of the border in Syria. How much longer before the Israel fabricates another story to start with Syria, Jordan and who knows what else.
If ever there was a time for Arab unity, this is it. If ever there was a time for world solidarity against injustice, this is it.
If ever there was a time for good to face evil, this is it.
July 17th, 2006 at 12:26 am
God help Lebanon in these harsh times .
July 17th, 2006 at 12:29 am
Jehovah, Allah, who cares. Its the same god.
Muslims + Juden, get a clue.. seriously.
You can bomb each other, or you can just say fine, stuff it, lets all try to live our lives like normal people, and stop being so pigheaded and selfish.
July 17th, 2006 at 12:38 am
No War , peace and love please .
Un abrazo fuerte de todos los hermanos Argentinos .
Suerte…..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 17th, 2006 at 12:46 am
I have no words to say after looking at these pictures. I could have never imagined this happening to Lebanon… much worse than anything has ever happened before. And to make matters worse, ignorant and blinded people have the guts to point fingers and blame Hezballah. If anything, they should be thanked because they are the ones who helped Lebanon become what it is today. It’ easy to forget the good and remember the bad, but no one should ever forget, who, in 2000 kicked israel out of Lebanon after they invaded. As for this situation, Hezballah has a job to finish. They should not disarm, because if they do, matters will only become worse; the israelis will invade the country once again as soom as Hezballa disarms, just like they did with the Palestinians… promised them peace after they disarm, and now look.
God bless Lebanon and all of it’s people; you are all in our Prayers.
July 17th, 2006 at 12:49 am
Mark Khoury, you took the words right out of my mouth.
“f ever there was a time for Arab unity, this is it. If ever there was a time for world solidarity against injustice, this is it.”
Lebanese people must unite. I am sick of hearing about Lebanese people hating eachother because of religion. We are all Lebanese and we must love each other as we are all brothers and sisters.
God bless Lebanon.
July 17th, 2006 at 1:04 am
God help lebanon
god take the kids,and people live there
help the family losse sombody there
and all please for stop that soon
July 17th, 2006 at 1:07 am
Blame Hezbollah. You think they didn’t know this would happen? They knew damn well how Israel would respond to their attacks. Their goal is to make Israel look like “monster” baby killers in exactly this way. That’s right, they are USING these innocents as a propaganda tool. Their lives are being offered up as sacrifices to make Israel look bad.
Their blood is on Hezbollah’s hands, and not Israel’s. If the Lebonese are going to be righteously pissed off, they should direct their anger at the extremists who provoked these attacks. Israel is only guilty of walking into Hezbollah’s trap.
Have we forgotten that Hezbollah and other groups like them have been bombing civilians for YEARS now on an almost daily basis? And what do you think the rockets that Hezbollah has been firing into Israel were filled with, confetti? If you’re all so easily swayed by this base appeal to your emotions then maybe you’d like to see pictures of school buses that have been blown apart from the inside or coffee shops with the windows all blown out and blood spattered on the walls.
Muslim jihadists are just as “monstrous” and “evil” as the Israeli military, the only difference is that Israel has been sitting and taking this abuse for years, and Lebanon is only just now having to face violence in their own homes.
July 17th, 2006 at 1:09 am
well this is very shame full act from Israel only for 8 Israelians they killed hundred of inocent ppl shame on u guys seriously u ppl called muslims terrorist and what is this ?well if u want to show how powerfull u are then talk with pakistanis then we will tell you how powerfull we are and i dont know why muslims are siting quite i mean they are doing nothing GOD bless lebanon ppl all mulsims and pakistanis are with u love u ppl
Aneel-butt
lahore PAKISTAN الله أكبر
July 17th, 2006 at 1:23 am
Hammerlock,
You are saying killing all those children is acceptable to you. Whatever the pretence, targetting innocents is a cowerdly act. Targetting children is barbaric.
ter·ror·ism: [n] Use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people to attain a political goal.
You cannot make someone who targets children and families look any worse.
The world will catch up one day.
Until then, you may continue supporting those who keep Israel safe by targetting young children.
Some Israelis are ashamed of ’supporters’ like you.
July 17th, 2006 at 1:37 am
Do NOT forgive them Father, for they Do know what they do!!!
July 17th, 2006 at 1:53 am
Time for the world to react… UN losing credibility , Governments fading ! Dont be one of those , React!
Watching these atrocities on the TV channels might be hurting , but kindly picture yourself in the scene , losing a parent , an innocent child , a whole family , and Follow what your conscience dictates.
To all free people in the world , to All HUMANS , Shame on you if you keep your silence after seeing such pictures…
July 17th, 2006 at 2:11 am
A few months ago, a Canadian citizen was rightfully arrested and convicted in Maine of a brutal crime.
Where was the US Air Force, bombing the Champlain and Jacques Cartier bridges? Where was the bombing of the P.E. Trudeau airport? Why did we continue to have electricity, was that not destroyed? How come I am still able to go cycling at the Old Port?
Nonsense, you say? Exactly. This makes about as much sense as accepting the Israeli B.S. that the attack was because of two captured soldiers.
[Also, any military planner can tell you that an all-forces — Air, Land and Sea — operation like this does not happen instantly. Takes a long time to plan]
Already disgustingly ugly, the Israeli monster is showing an ever uglier side: it obviously looks at any non-Israeli as less than human, and unworthy. “Just kill ‘em all”, it seems to think.
July 17th, 2006 at 2:16 am
I feel sorry for what is happening in the Middle East full stop.
I don’t support Israel (they don’t need any help) - I support a free Palestine, a free Lebanon, a free Iraq. I don’t support anti-semitism but I am no friend of Israel - many there support war and destruction, but at the same time many want peace too and good relations with neighbours. As do many Palestinians - so many people just want to life a quiet life, not struggle for everything you have.
I don’t support extremism of any kind - it is destroying people, our world. Extremism stops us from being human beings to each other.
I live in a very safe place, Western Australia, that I can take for granted. What right does anyone have to take safety and security away from good working people and their families?
We are all trying to get on, do the best for our loved ones and families. I don’t care what religion a person is - we are all human first.
I want the Lebanese to know peace like I do - for everyone, peace and security.
But the big players in the world need to assist to make it real and to make it last. Both sides need to be heard, but no more blame - it is enough??
July 17th, 2006 at 2:26 am
Sadly amusing. From Robert Fisk:
“The Israelis were yesterday trumpeting the fact that the missile was made in Iran as proof of Iran’s involvement in the Lebanon war. This was odd reasoning. Since almost all the missiles used to kill the civilians of Lebanon over the past four days were made in Seattle, Duluth and Miami in the United States, their use already suggests to millions of Lebanese that America is behind the bombardment of their country. “
July 17th, 2006 at 2:29 am
im really upset about what is happening and pray to God it all stops. These are innocent people and children that are suffering are suffering consequences for reasons not worth fighting for.
There is a saying the goes, should we sacrafice one the entire nation for one or one for the nation? Our beautiful country should not have to suffer the pain that they are. Our people should not be suffering anymore, they have been through enough. Let the foreign people out, pray for forgiveness and pray for the people in Lebanon. Imagine this happening to your family or children.
July 17th, 2006 at 2:33 am
they say disarm Hizbulla and tend to forget isreal atrocities in the region since 1948!!
refugees,
masacars,
war
terror
occupation,
detanies…etc
Hizbulla was founded in 1982 during the the isreali occupation to Lebanon.
PLO was founded much earlier due to isreali occupation to Palastine
Hamas was founded in 1990’s due to isreali occupation of Gaza & west Bank
zionists are source of evil in this region
their intended atrocities leads to the rise of extreme
groups
isreal can only survive and grow on blood, peace sets limit to its expansion and occupation!!
July 17th, 2006 at 2:48 am
Im saudi and im ashamed of being one! My country was the first to announce on the media, and from the 1st day of the strikes on Lebanon, that hizballa is wrong and it shouldnt have hit Israel back! For gods sake they were just fighting back, at least for the first strike of the airpot, and they have the right to do that since the US president Mr. George IDIOT allowed Israel to do that, and reasoned it with “self-defence” …And our leaders are worse! They are the biggest munafigeen and are too afraid of loosing their power & their chairs ! Their only concern is their relationship with the US, and the huge revenue they are getting from oil exports to the US. The biggest cant even be on the Lebanese side. They should have at least stayed quiet, it would have been better, because we all know they would NEVER even dare stand against the US or just give their OPPINION in an important matter like this ! I love lebanon and its people, i even wanted my wedding to be there 3al jabal or at Beit il Deen when i get married one day. I wated to go skiing in Faraya thE coming January. I have never seen a gorgeouse country with ppl so dedicated to their country’s help and development, so loving, beautiful, kind, fun, productive, classy, well edgucated, and yet very diverse and united at the same time. Liban(like lebanese say), I hate whats happening to you now, and Im going to miss the way you were..But im %100 sure that the lebanese will re-build you again, because thats just the way they are. Mashalla 3alaihom, they are getting together and helping the needy and elderly by providing food, aid and shelters for each other, regardless of their religiouse sectors or groups.
Allah ma3akom o yinsorkom! [edited by webmaster]
July 17th, 2006 at 2:54 am
what Israel is doing is not stopping terrorism,but infact giving a reason for a new set of terrorist to be born….if they are dumb enuff to not see it,then may allah give them wisdom.
Hate creates hate.
There is no terrorism in islam and no righteous muslim supports it.
The tainted term ‘Islamic terrorism’ being coined a million times too many,is just not right.
If defenition of terrorism is to go by, according to the webster dictionary terrorism is violent or destructive acts (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands.
But what isreal has done is not terrorism,its goes beyond that…becuase they have no demands,they just have one goal,to destroy and capture the arab nations.
next it will be syria..then some other nation,then some other….and well and dont be suprised supporters of isreal you wont be far away from thier invasion one day…they already control all your major corporations.so economically they have already made u a slave and that is why u turn a blind eye to thier atrocities.
Go fight the Hezbolla’s directly if u want ur soldiers back…dont kill the innocent children,women and men…but thats not the case,is it..if they really did care for thier own people they would not do such a dastardly act.
Shame on Isreal and shame on anyone who supports thier cause…
To all the people who have become ’shaheed’ in this attack…
Inna lillahi wa inna ilahi raji’un!
July 17th, 2006 at 3:10 am
You can be sure that pictures of people killed or wounded from Hizballa missiles are not any nicer.
Nor were the picture from thr Buenos-Aires buildings that were bombed by Hizballa (Imad Moarania) in 1994.
I am sorry for your pain.
God save us all.
July 17th, 2006 at 3:25 am
as we all know israel is indeed a very crucial enemy with no sense of mercy whatsoever. nevertheless nothing could be done regarding punishing her since U.S.A is backing her up big time. therefore, hizb allah is engaged in a battle where the destruction of lebanon is inevitable.i blame hizb allah for the war because he acted Solely and out of revenge not consulting or informing any of the lebanese dragging lebanon into a crisis in which the economy, infrastructures,houses, people, companies etc. are being destroyed everyday. my definition for what hizb allah has done is that they have a sort of complexity, those people want to prove themselves by showing the isralians that they are capable of destryong a cruiser or a train station and they brag about it. but in return lebanon is being destroyed both materialisticaly and reputation wise as being considered a terrorist country.
last but not least, man has not been given the bless of creation but rather the curse of destruction.
July 17th, 2006 at 3:38 am
Lebanon is a symbole of how beauty, peace, freedom, and innocence have no place in this crazily aggressive world.
I really hope that the lebanese will always remain the strong, life-lovers, and brave people we know they are regardless of all the hardships they go through and conspiracies plotted against them.
Bless you all our dear people in the country of beauty and freedom.
July 17th, 2006 at 3:45 am
Beside all the dreams that fainted with that cruel war, me like all Lebanese living abroad have all our thoughts and hearts with our beloved people in lebanon, Christian muslims and druze !
I hope that we will stay united in face of that cruel enemy who makes no difference between children women and buildings. They are talking bout self defense , but from what? From our children tears and fears ! God forgive hem cause they don’t know what they are doing!!
All our prayers go to u my beloved Lebanese struggling out there! keep the faith Cause God will never leave us against those crtiminals.
in each lebanese family there’s a Martyr watching over them so have no fear they may have the cruelest army in the word but we have an army of God’s angel!!!
Victory is ours
Long live Lebanon
July 17th, 2006 at 3:52 am
J’espere que cette guerre va tres vite s’arreter pour que la paix revienne, que la souffrance et les morts s’arretent.
July 17th, 2006 at 4:07 am
on doit pas utiliser larme pour se defendre , isreil est un pays dont il a une tres grande forces militaires ,les libanais est un peuple inteligens .utilisans le pour se defendre .
July 17th, 2006 at 4:15 am
i love lebanon.
i love lebanon.
i love lebanon.
long live lebanon,and its people.
and may the souls of the martyrs rest in peace.
July 17th, 2006 at 4:55 am
Ya rabbeh Er7am!
July 17th, 2006 at 5:22 am
So sad and terrible to see what people greed can cause. Innocent children are dying because of the politicians highier goals. Shame for all of these military evils called “heroes” in their country! Look what you have done! May you have no calm sleep till you die!
July 17th, 2006 at 5:47 am
Lebanon - Our prayers are with your innocent during these dark days. War is truly hell. Welcome to hell. Your driver was clearly Hezbollah. Those who keep blaming everything on Israel are fools. The Israeli cities are also getting hit and they are also dying. They did not want this war. It does them no good. They wanted a quiet border. You must look internally and ask why was nothing done about Hezbollah? Did you really think the neighbors would tolerate the crazy uncle with a shotgun taking shots at their children? You were let down by your leaders, by Syria, and set up by Iran. Assad said you would burn and now you are burning. I hope you finally bring in an international force to police your borders and disarm Hezbollah so these horrific wars are fought no longer. Before you do that however, I would try to get the Israelis to take care of as much of Hezbollah as possible so your job will be easier. Tell the Israelis where Hezbollah is and get as far away from those people as possible. Be strong. Be brave. And be careful.
Brendan Sullivan
Philadelphia, PA USA
July 17th, 2006 at 6:16 am
Being from a country who has suffered similarly i could not keep my tears for what our neighbours are suffering. May God be with you and stop this evil very soon.
July 17th, 2006 at 6:22 am
We used to take solace at least in those empty words of world leaders when they at least stood by us and condemned atrocities. but on this occasion, i am still to hear a clear cut word that it against what is happening…the arab league statement came closest..but shouldn;t have been the strongest statement? What about the G8, the Great 8 or is it the Ghastly 8? what about our neighbours, those who weren’t indifferent, were chanting for the war agaisnt Israel to support (soit disant) the lebanse people!what about the Lebanese people…not gonna start the debate whether it was right or wrong or untimely or whatever , but we all agree we feel betrayed…by everyone without exception…May god bless all teh lebanese people, and damnation for all those who are raging the war on our strong minded peace loving people…damnation for all those that are anti-lebanese (and that is an umbrella word…)
July 17th, 2006 at 6:47 am
Well Well Well…History repeats itself…
I will just start by saying a prayer for those who fell and those who will fall…But that’s all what they are getting from me…Amazing the amount of discrepancy we have in lebanon..we have the brightest individuals in the world..we have the kindest and the most affectionate societies..and still we managed to round up a gang of ignorants,warlike people who think they own the lebanese destiny.Nisrallah, i dont recall giving you a written agreement to fight “the fight of the arabs and muslims” on my behalf.If in your belief you go to heaven by killing in the name of your religion, i totally oppose war.Do you take us for fools when you say what you did was to liberate prisoners ? would you have stopped there ? and does your iran take us all for fools ? they would strike israel if they attacked syria..but they sit and watch in satisfaction when lebanon is being destroyed…Again my prayers go for those who fell…but as i recall most of those where saying a few days ago : we will stand fast ? why did they run away at the sight of the first missile ? They take us into war and then run back for protection….as sorry as i am, excuse for saying : that’s bullshit..i hope that after all this destruction nasrallah gets a rocket up his @@#$@…maybe his boss bachar too..after all this war is for him to escape the hariri trial while iran wants to get more negotiating power over its nuclear plans…and as ususal the poor moderate lebanese are stuck in between…To all those who supported hizbullah :don’t complain..that’s what you wanted from the start right ? now deal with it…and to syria i say : i hope you’re next … and to the USA i say : it’s time to know that not all Lebanese were created equal..hell i say : not all those who carry the lebanese nationality are Lebanese…We are sick and tired of paying for the war-desires of the others….
July 17th, 2006 at 7:07 am
THIS IS RESURECTION OF FASCISM!
DON’T LET IT BE LIKE IN WORLD WAR 2!
THEY killed thousands aprox. 50 years ago, THEY conquered peacefull lands, THEY need more sacrifices now…
STOP FASCISM on Middle East!
STOP GENOCIDE!
July 17th, 2006 at 7:15 am
THIS IS WHAT WAR IS
ALWAYS , EVERYWHERE
July 17th, 2006 at 7:37 am
Israeli Government we are shocked!
Thought you guys were more “educated”, “rich” and “civilized” than we “poor barbarians Arabs” are!!! Thought you’re “race” is more intelligent like you claim!
We are poor but generous, Educated but Fair , Rich but humble, Civilized but JUST. This is why stronger we remain.
you’re nothing but a bunch of BARBARIANS! MURDERERS! You and your COWARD supporters!
What kind of race are we? If the human race in 2006 cannot have a stand on genocides happening in Lebanon and in all over the world? What are we then? Who are we? Animals in the jungle taking each others lives to have food and water? OF course not!…Animals are pure…Humans are evil….
The only purpose of having a human mind is for the use of weapons on innocent people..
Please both parties, use your minds more and try to figure out a way have mercy on your people…I honestly it doesnt need a lot of inteeligence. STOP THE USE OF WEAPONS! USE YOUR PEN, TONGUE, enno you know something else…
War won’t give none of us justice…
Your aggressiveness, your disgusting instinctive drive to kill and your uncontrollable anger will lead you nowhere I can guarantee you… Maybe to hell but nowhere else…
To the poor and the innocent civilians we pray…
God have mercy on our children and on our Lovely Beautiful Beloved country LEBANON…
July 17th, 2006 at 7:55 am
par notre unité, christians et musulmans on va gagner cette gueure. c’est pas une gueure contre hizbollah, c une gueure contre liban, contre nous tous (les libanais).
j’ai vu ces photos, c incroyable, pour les petits enfants: vous etes les oiseaux de paradis.
que dieu nous garde et nous sauve de ceux qui ont l’intention de nous detruire.
July 17th, 2006 at 8:01 am
o liban mon amour o libam mna patrie
a toi toute ma vie je le jure en ce jour
July 17th, 2006 at 8:08 am
I hope this will create a stromger and more powerful Lebanon
God save Lebanon
July 17th, 2006 at 8:30 am
Allah Yir7am Jobran Twayni
Amen . . . just wish u were here right now to see keef kharraboolna lebanon in the sake of syria and iran
W ba3dein min howeh samir il qontar ????? w shu fiya shebaa ??? gold or petrol ???
wake up everyone !! cuz we aien’t fighting any more wars for no one !
the ” shakika ” ??? ” IRAN ” ???? where’s bachar now ? they say if syria is attacked they will respond ? what abt leb ?
Just remember all of u when this is over !
July 17th, 2006 at 8:40 am
Oh christ !!!
Please please please….
All you “syrians” on this blog trying to show your sympathy..for god’s sake shut up…we have seen what your sympathy has done for us during the past 3 decades.Enjoy the prosperity you got from the toursits that fled Lebanon and laugh in secret.If you felt so much sympathy why don’t you launch some rockets over israel ? coz you’re a bunch of ignorant hypocrite brain-washed people and that’s all what you’ll ever manage to be.I give thanks to the gulf people for finally rising over resonant but hollow speeches and having the decency to say the truth.We lebanese deserve peace.We paid enough for the false cause of “arabs”.When this is over, if we don’t sign peace with israel then we deserve what happens to us.Let those who want war wage it from their own country.Syrians and iranians, you are meant especially by my comment.We are sick with your belligerence and hypocrisy.I prefer having an enemy like israel than a friend like you.
July 17th, 2006 at 8:46 am
This is our fault, we’ll not the Lebanese directly but it is the foolishness of the Arab world.
No one from the Arab world has a say, I wonder why?
The US Pays them to keep them shut… while the innocent people of the Arab world are roped of there freedom of the current and future Arab people.
We as Arabs Muslims / Christian (all sections) need to unite as one; and destroy our enemies who are trying to destroy not only our lives but the future generations.
July 17th, 2006 at 9:09 am
Dear Brothers and sisters, Dear Lebanese, I know that we will rise again and I am pretty sure about that, but there is one thing to be considered that this war has awake the racism in our heards and minds, From now on it is going to be a new ERA, Lebanon will be Just for those who are pure Lebanese, because this time we are pretty sure that we’re semit in our region, and beleive that the day will come, the day where all of those considered allies and refused to say a word or were scared of saying any word has proved that they all dreamt about seeing Lebanon like it is now , so we tell them the day will come when we’re going to watch their suffering and saying not a single word. “God Help your people, God help Lebanon”.
July 17th, 2006 at 9:26 am
I am watcing the victorious , Amazing, Extraordinary feat or the H.A, they have launshed a rocket and they have downed an f16 (supposidely). i think they calls for celebration, let’s bring out the bubbly…on second thoughts ginger-bubbly…who are we fooling? did anyone in H.A tried to put up a “score” sheet…do we have the right to rejoice with them because they shot down a plane after they destroyed our country? and what happened then? 20-30 people from the army and civil defense ran to rescue the poor lebanese souls trapped in the fires to find the wingman of the supposidely downed plane bombing randomly killing innocent people left and right…now it’s time to rejoice still…no wait…it was NOT an f16, it was a balloon with cameras and flyers!!! so now is it time to rejoice about that extraordinary deed!?
July 17th, 2006 at 9:29 am
hey Mr. simon , or Mrs simon i am not sure , you are saying that we hurt u for the last 3 decades , maybe syria did some mistakes in lebanon , but it protected lebanon 4 all this type mr smart or mrs smart according to the way your toking , we separated our soldiers from their families for what for some people fighting each other over religion , dude till now sunnis shi3is druz in lebanon r fighting , you dont even have a government what r u doking about yalla say cuz of syria cuz u ppl have nothing 2 say u blame it on syria , u think we r enjoyingh out tourists now , syria have no dept . at all , lebanon around 34 billion dept , we know how 2 handle our selves , ur tokin about 7izballa , and u want us to send rockets , where do u think 7izballa is bringing those rockets? i have this sense that you are smart though , 50 % of u in lebanon , we r protecting u right now , although aloooot don deserve .. and i think you know why , ba3den dude we ignored you recently why would we want to be ur friends , shu gayeena minkon ? we r with gnoub and 7izballa mainly cuz these are the men , truely these are the men , and only .. they suffered and they don care about death , y dont u defend ur country mr , ??? go do something instead of tokin 2 ur gf on the phone and try 2 make her smile like gays … we r supporting u and giving u these rockets that ur tokin about … walla enta mish 3aref shu baddak .. peace
July 17th, 2006 at 9:29 am
Shame! When this goes to stop? To the Lebanese friends, force one more time… kisses in heart
Regiane - Brazil - São Paulo
July 17th, 2006 at 9:43 am
If God was to make a winner of u coz u believe i him and u believe in ur country then no 1 ever can say other wise.
July 17th, 2006 at 9:44 am
What can i say,im struggling to catch my breath,no difference between muslim or christian,stop blaming each other,one thing we should do for the sake of our parents and the dead burnt kids unite for once plz we all should unite,our country is destroyed north,south,east,west,the enemie not after their soldiers as u can see,and its not the 1st time soldiers was captured by hezbolah,last time hezbollah got back over 800 prisoner from israel if israel was serious about peace and care thry would release our 10,000 prisoners and 125 womens still there,these people been there over 20 years dont they have the right to leave or its just the arabs cheap and dont need to leave like human been, how come israel talk about respecting united nation,they never did,the palestinian won their case at thehigh court in lahay to stop building that massive wall what did they say and who can stop them,united nations a bunch of mafias 1o members agreed and 5 didnt vote so thats 15 to force or only tell israel the united nation to cease fire while we saw our beloved honest sincerel friend the american who were coming and going every week from and to beirut they wana bring democracy to lebanon,there were very concern about it they used there veto to prevent the united nation not to ask israel to cease fire is it the democracy,is it fair 1 against 15.plz pray to god to bless lebanon .where is julia boutos(((mnerfod nehna nmout 2ouloulon lah neb2a))).
July 17th, 2006 at 9:56 am
Nous sommes un peuple qui ne se met pas a genoux..jamais! car Nous Sommes Les Fils du Cedre!
مثل الشجر بارض بلادي منموت و نحنا واقفين
GOD BLESS LEBANON
July 17th, 2006 at 10:05 am
God Bless Lebanon & Husbullah.
July 17th, 2006 at 10:08 am
Il a aucune force dans le monde qui peut détruire ce pays. Le pays de cèdre a toujours connu des périodes sanglantes durant son histoire et il a toujours pu surmonter ces douleurs. Cette fois-ci on doit montrer à tout le monde que les Libanais sont unis pour un seul but et c’est de battre les Israéliens. Le Liban va se ressusciter comme il a toujours fait, ce pays ne sera jamais enterré par cette bande de terroristes. Les Israéliens ne comprennent que le discours de la guerre et du sang, il faut les faire sentir qu’on capable de leur faire mal mais trop trop mal. Vive la résistance Libanaise, Vive le Liban, Libre, souverain et fier.
July 17th, 2006 at 10:16 am
Pourquoi est-ce que tout un peuple doit souffrir pour les actions d’une minorité ? Pourquoi la communauté internationale reste quasiment immobile face à ces atrocités ? Pourquoi laisse-t-on le gouvernement d’Israël faire ce qu’il veut dans la région ? Ce n’est qu’une histoire d’argent et d’intérêt économique !!!
Je ne pense pas que la “perte” de quelques soldats (qui au passage ont signé pour être où ils sont), nécessite une telle tuerie de civils. Ce pays et son peuple ont assez soufferts dans le passé. Mes pensées vont vers vous, amis Libanais. La France vous porte dans son coeur.
July 17th, 2006 at 10:20 am
I am a Lebanese living in Montreal and have been following this since it started, my parents and friends are still in Beirut. I have been looking for pictures or video feeds of the events Lebanon since I heard the news. I was sick and tired or hearing disgusting biased news shown on tv networks like CNN. Incredible brainwashing techniques. If anyone in the media is reading this AT LEAST HAVE THE DECENCY TO TELL THE WHOLE STORY BEFORE CALLING YOURSELF NEWS.
They loop the same articles all day pretty much telling anyone who isnt from the middle east the story they want to tell.
My friends, we could sit here and point fingers and blame, or we could unite and stand together, not for Hezbollah or Israel. For LEBANON.
My heart goes to everyone in Lebanon, may this storm pass quickly. We are all with you
July 17th, 2006 at 10:20 am
samir il kintar killed Israeli family inside Israel.
Personally I don’t understand why he is still alive, but
that’s not the case. You want him back? Does that sounds
reasonable for you that murderer will get out of jail?
Common, people, try to be driven by logic.
Hizballa attacks Israel constantly, how long can we
suffer that? And now those poor kidnapped soldiers.
It’s painful to see that wasted life in Haifa and
in Beirut, no one should die this way. But I guess Iran paid
enough to Mr. Nasralla to see those souls as negligible.
So, Mr. Nasralla, STOP DESTROYING LEBANON!
War has ugly face, I’m sorry for both of us,
I did’n want that war just like you didn’t want it,
but now it doesn’t matter.
One day peace and respect will return to this area,
God help us survive till then.
July 17th, 2006 at 10:22 am
We were suffering approximately for the last 30 years. We were building approximately for the last 14 years to achieve something, to provide a better life for our children, to establish a good and happy family… We were on the right track and all of the sudden everything gone (with the wind). Nothing will be the same and the invoice is huge this time. Pray for Lebanon because, from my point of view, it’s the most pretiest country i have ever seen. God be with Lebanon.
July 17th, 2006 at 10:22 am
it is the time for muslims to unite and show how powerfull and willfull they can be, and make the evil stop his cruelty and grimness…lets beat them and struck them down with our prayers..
July 17th, 2006 at 10:38 am
Parem de assassinar nossas crianças e pessoas inocentes!
Não destruam nossos lares!
Não acabem com nosso patrimonio!
Não terminem com a nossa cultura!!!
E de quem é a culpa, só de Israel? Da desunião dos Paises Árabes? USA? ONU?
FORÇA LÏBANO!!!
July 17th, 2006 at 10:39 am
Basel and Simon. First of all…let’s not hide behind out finger. Syrian is not supporting Teh south as u claim because they are true men ..PLEASE! who the he** u think u are talking to! u obviously need a militray force outside of your country to have as buffer between u and the “ennemy”. why do u think u are without debt? why do u think you “take care of yourselves”..did u have to rebuild ur country 5 times or more because other people wanted to use u to fight their wars? shame on u brother! i don;t agree with simon for the accusation game, but i am hoping u educate urself more before insulting people’s intelligence! P.S i am not sure u wanna admit to the world u are helping out the H.A, but i give u that, u have more balls that ur cowardly goverment who hasn’t even taken a stand!
u are right ! ma gayelkoum shay2 menna, then stop supplying the weapons that are causing deaths on our land! PEACE for lebanon…
July 17th, 2006 at 10:56 am
Israel démontre encore une fois de plus leur barbarie leur soif de sang mais malgré tout cela Le Liban ne meurt jamais et nous les Libanais nous resisterons jusqu’au dernier souffle chacun à sa manière mais jamais on abandonnera notre cher pays, le sang coule tous les jours toutes les minutes, on connait tout cela et n’oubliez pas le Liban renait tout le temps de ses cendres
Vive la résistance Libanaise
J’etais contre toutes sortes d’extremisme notamment Hezbollah mais au vu des actes d’Israel je souhaite de tout coeur que le Hizbollah fasse le maximum de mal et de souffrance aux israeliens.
July 17th, 2006 at 11:00 am
I would wonder if Omert or Bush’s children died this way … would they still want war?
July 17th, 2006 at 11:17 am
United United United… Is this the only thing that we can do?
And then… Nobody will be united. If we want to live in peace we should change all our leaders.
Everybody is with Hezb Allah, but we want to know if Hezb Allah is with us, if Hezb Allah is with Lebanon yes or no? The thing is that Hezb Allah is a resistance party not to attack and start the fight. The Lebanese Army should attack if necessary, and in the other hand, the timing of Hezb Allah was very bad because Lebanon is under pressure and we have too many problems between us more important to attack and to fight in this TIME.
ALLAH Bless Lebanon… Allah Bless Lebanese people.
July 17th, 2006 at 11:24 am
“I am
against the rose beds turning into trenches,
and yet when fire cremates my friends, my youth
and my country
how can i stop a poem from becoming a gun?”
-unknown palestinian poet
We need to stand together, all arabs, half arabs, quarter arabs and those who love the culture, the food, our countries and we need to speak up and have our voice heard.
i will be putting up a site, auctioning off paintings done by myself, if any other artist would like to join me, please contact me at andrew_delatolla@hotmail.com, all proceeds will go to Lebanon.
So speak up, have your voice heard and pull together to do whatever you can!
July 17th, 2006 at 11:32 am
It´s easy to Mr. Bush say, from a chair, sited in a G8 summit, that “they have the right to do it”…ARE YOU NUTZ MR. BUSH??? we are looking for peace in that region more than 15 years, and we made it, but you support Israeli strikes, because of two s…. soldiers. what about the dozens of dead civilians that Israle´s air strike are making in our land? “IS THIS RIGHT??????” oh it is, becaus Hezbollah did a strike and killed 10 israeli…ohhh, we got it
July 17th, 2006 at 11:38 am
notre pouvoir est notre confiance en nous meme
nous survivons malgré toute la folie des agressants et des terrorisme israeliens , c’est pas un guerre contre des mélices , c’est une guerre contre notre unité nationale , notre fiérté et notre espoir , ils vont detruire le reve de liban , ca ils n’arrivent jamais a le faire
Vive les résistants, vive Le Liban
July 17th, 2006 at 11:41 am
all the muslim countries should do some thing to remove this evil from our world by saying evil i mean israel and by saying do some thing i mean to get united once again and remove israel form the world
July 17th, 2006 at 11:42 am
Thank you Hizbulla for destroying our beloved country…
You should have thought twice before playing with fire…
You took a decision on behalf of all the Lebanese people, which is not your right…
We the Lebanese people are paying for your consequences….while you are hiding safely…
We the Lebanese people did not chose this war, you did the chosing for us…
We thanked God that we had a time of peace and happiness fell upon us while watching Lebanon be constructed again, a civilized place it was beginning to be…
Now we have to start all over again, sacrifice all over again, our children sacrifice all over again…
Again, Thank you Hizbulla for destroying our beloved Lebanon…
July 17th, 2006 at 11:44 am
My heart and my mind are in Lebanon now, I’m with you guys, I’m sure this will end soon. FREE LEBANON NOW
Fudo from Italy
July 17th, 2006 at 11:45 am
who is the terrorist now???
2 soldiers is the same of 100 civilians??
injustice…
July 17th, 2006 at 11:58 am
Try to learn from the past and do not do to others what you would not like to receive from them.
Stop it while you can!
July 17th, 2006 at 11:58 am
Being Lebanese living in the UK, I feel bitter and sad for what is happening in my country.I am also amazed by the silence of the whole world toward this atrocity.
our Lebanon/future has gone, all what is remaining is our will to live,and i do not know whether it is going to last…….
July 17th, 2006 at 12:02 pm
fico muito triste em saber que hoje em dia as pessoas conseguem o que querem matando uns aos outros. passando por cima dos mais fracos.
it is very sad to know that in nowdays people kil each other to be strong and have suficient power to get what they want
July 17th, 2006 at 12:12 pm
long years ago jews were killed and persecuted by nazis.. till 2006 a lot of countries (like germany, france, poland ..) are paying for that atrocity .. jews were and still are “victims”..
have a look to lebanon NOW and see what “victims” are doing ..
NO COMMENT ..
(a simple Lebanese who’s thinking)
July 17th, 2006 at 12:43 pm
Je veux tout simplement dire que nous étions toujours ensemble réunit quand ils ont détruit le Liban. Ensemble nous l’avons reconstruit et ensemble nous avons réussit. Maintenant ses barbares d’israélien le détruit à nouveau, mais allons rester solidaire ensemble. Nous garderons toujours la tête haute et nous leur crions plein la gueule : ‘bnourfod ni7na nmout ilouloun ra7 nib2a’
Mes chères compatriotes, ensemble nous allons défendre ce grand pays et ensemble à nouveau nous allons le reconstruire.
Alla yi7mé Libnén w Alla Yi7mikoun
July 17th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
Quel désastre, la bêtise humaine, je connais la fierté Libanaise, le grand coeur de ce peuple, mais on doit soulever l’appel international pour aider cette population victime de barbarie. Hé peuples capitalistes aidez nos frères qui sont dans le besoin, Le Liban ne peut retouner 20 ans en arrière. Mes prières vous accompagne et la raison va finalement voir le jour.
D’un Canadien qui vous aimme
July 17th, 2006 at 12:51 pm
I am from Serbia and I know very well what is bombing and what is like to be bombed. That is why now my prayers are with people of Lebanon.
July 17th, 2006 at 12:53 pm
Arrêtez ses terroristes! Ca c’est le VRAI terrosisme, regardez comment ISRAEl attaque notre pays par des massacres enchaînés des victimes innocents! et avec des armes “bombes phosphores” interdits internationalement,
Cessez de bombarder les enfants, les femmes et le peuple ….
C’est inhumain, c’est injuste, c’est cruel
July 17th, 2006 at 12:57 pm
I was not born in Lebanon, but I feel as if I were. My heart is broken to see it going down once more for the sake of particular interests dragging the whole country to a war. This disgrace will continue to happen over and over again until the day you stop treating yourselves as Christian, Muslim, all sections, etc. and start calling yourselves Lebanese. When you do that, you will know that the actions Hezbollah are taking from within Lebanese territory are illegal and stupid. There are laws, my friends! Laws! What the Hezbollah is doing should have put Mr. Nasrallah in jail, even though I don’t know the exact qualification for his crime. There is the army, there is the police, the Hezbollah must be disarmed. As illegal as that is the Iranians sending money for this war. They had better help their Palestinian brothers with this money, by constructing the so much needed infrastructure that could make Gaza a real country. Do they care about them? No. They prefer to spend millions to keep Israel in a state of war with Lebanon! If Israel was to attach their country, they wouldn’t be so brave, no. You who think Iran and Syria are your friends, watch out! It is not their country that is being destroyed. And this time don’t blame Israel, that was you who started.
July 17th, 2006 at 1:09 pm
Thank you very much US tax payers to pay IDF arsenal.
Today Lebanon.
Tomorrow…
“We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: “Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.” I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.’ “
July 17th, 2006 at 1:28 pm
Dear Friends,
Please have a look on this petition related to the tragic situation in Lebanon and Gaza
http://libangaza.free.fr
Hopefully you will sign it, if you agree with!
PLEASE distribute this information as large as it is possible
July 17th, 2006 at 1:29 pm
Esto es increible!! No lo puedo creer. A rezar por el Libano y su gente.
July 17th, 2006 at 2:01 pm
where is justice, how can the world keep quite at this? when r we gonna have a single standard for all people?
July 17th, 2006 at 2:04 pm
To all my Lebanese countrymen (and women),
Let it be known that Samir Kantar entered Israel in 1978, as member of a palestinian organization who was meanwhile fighting us in Lebanon, took a family as hostage, a man and his son, the wife and a little daughter hid in a closet. Kantar shot the man and the son before being arrested, while the woman strangled her daughter keepng her from crying.
The real cause of this madness of today is not Samir Kantar. Kantar is only a pretext. The real cause is our unfit politicians who call themselves leaders. From Hariri to Nasrallah. They failed to build a transparent form of government after the syrian withdrawal of April 2005, preferring first to be allied and take each his share of the cheese, then quarrel and lead us into destruction. Israel is doing its interest in destroying our country, and we have to blame only our leaders.
Let us hope that something good arise from this tragedy that the lebanese rulers were unable to prevent.
To our israeli friend on this blog, I say if Kantar is still alive, it your fault.
July 17th, 2006 at 2:15 pm
Dear all lebanese people,
I feel what u are feeling right now
My heart is crying just like yours
But don`t forget that God is watching everything
Have faith in him
God bless you all
July 17th, 2006 at 2:15 pm
o que vou dizer pra eles e o seguinte ..
hoje voces matao um mosulmano amanha nasce 10 .
e ja mas vamos desestir de nossa terra ….
o libano ja mas se enclinara a cabeca … gracas ao hizbo lah pq aqueles vagabundos sentados nas poltronas e assinando acordos entre eles e dizendo que estao estudando o assunto do libano .
saibao que vai ser como diz o imam khomaine ..
israel e um demonio e tem que ser eleminada da exestencia ………….
kama na2lam ta2lamon …… e salam
July 17th, 2006 at 2:27 pm
Civilian deaths are terrible, but does anybody here really believe this war is about Israel’s genocidal depravity? Answer one question: If a terrorist group promises to destroy your cities, and that terrorist group is on your border, and that terrorist group stores its rockets in civilian areas, what would you do?
What would the great France do if Portugal and Germany were lobbing bombs at civilian targets? Would the great France refuse to protect its soil?
Of course they would destroy the bombs, even if civilians tragically die as a result. Open your eyes, and try to see beyond the simplistic supernaturalism of Jews=Satan.
July 17th, 2006 at 2:44 pm
What is happening in Lebanon is largely the fault of the Lebanese. Hezbollah puts Iran’s interests first and therefore can’t be considered Lebanese. Many people say they are heroes but almost all Arab countries agree that the Hezb is to blame in this case. The government doesn’t act because it is headed by a weak man (Saniora) and a traitor ( Lahoud). The Israelis are no angels and what they are doing to the infrastructure of the poor country can’t be justified, but they do what is right for their country.
People complain that the US does nothing, I beg to differ; however, this is not the forum for this. What I tell My Arab friends is that instead of hurling blame at the US do something in your own country to help Lebanon and support its economy; GO TO LEBANON when it will become possible. Actions are louder than words.
Hardship will not distinguish between any Lebanese groups. They are all in it together and they all need help. Lets all pray for them.
July 17th, 2006 at 2:58 pm
i hope that one day, all shiats, sonnis, chritians, jews and others, become humans, just humans, all the same, with no diffrences, so that there will peace among the people who think the same. sina from tehran, iran
July 17th, 2006 at 3:12 pm
I’m from israel… now i hate my country for their crimes. i fill ashamed of being israeli.
i wish the israeli politicians will fill some day the pain that fill the lebanon ppl.
my heart is with you.
praying for peace to all of us.
July 17th, 2006 at 3:26 pm
NO comment …. the pictures tells by itself and sorry to say that words are not enough these days.. its better if we are living in the “ICE AGE”..
July 17th, 2006 at 4:33 pm
what goes around, comes around… people inflicting pain on others will pay for it dearly… and they deserve every bit of it… may they suffer as much as the people whose suffering they caused!
July 17th, 2006 at 4:50 pm
K.. i’m from canada, but i’m lebanese i’m supposed to be in lebanon this summer, spending my vacation with my family, and what can i say more. We’ve HAD ENOUGH. ENOUGH. Syrians,palestinians,civil wars, israelies…god
July 17th, 2006 at 4:55 pm
Allah yonsor Lebanon 3a a3de2ou…
July 17th, 2006 at 5:12 pm
well… its really breaking human’s heart. we pray that God will accept them as Shohada, but the question is, when will the Muslems act?
may God bless thair souls.
Salam alikom
July 17th, 2006 at 5:13 pm
I was always wondering, why leaders of the most powerfull and influent countries are establishing peace and “democracy” by means of genocide, civillian slaughtering and world media manipulation.
I think this is the last drop.
All evil will be punished. Stand strong, Lebanon!!!
July 17th, 2006 at 5:57 pm
Hammerlock is right. Someone has to teach Nasrallah and his band a lesson. Poor Lebaneese sitizens are just have been sucrisiced for no reason.
July 17th, 2006 at 6:01 pm
Words are not enough to say but just knowing that my fmily is stuck in Lebanon and Isreal is just so hard since they are in waar.. it is not right that people are dying.. innocent people are dying for no reason.. i think they should just get over it and act like adults and put everything together!!!!!
July 17th, 2006 at 6:01 pm
this is wrong & against everything that’s human. let’s all stay united & not let them break us up. god is still blessing us & we shall win no matter what they do to us. we believe in paradise, a thing they never heard of becoz they don’t know anything that’s beautiful & innocent. LONG LIVE MY COUNTRY I’M PROUD TO BE LEBANESE & I’M PROUD TO SAY THAT I STILL LIVE IN MY COUNTRY & WILL NOT LEAVE. GOD BLESS ALL MY PEOPLE ALL RELIGIONS IN LEBANON!
July 17th, 2006 at 6:04 pm
I’m a Canadian Lebanese/Egyptian Christian, but most importantly a HUMAN BEING. I have been reading the news on a very frequent basis, off of aljazeera.net, Google news, watching Lebanese TV stations (LBC & FUTUR) and it’s sad to say that with all of the information one has access to these days that so many people are allowing such atrocities to occur. However despite the anger I feel towards not only the Israelis, Hezbollah, Lebanese government, Americans (Bush) or Canadians (Harper), I now realize they’re not to blame. The sole proprietors of this blame should be towards all of the super powers that govern our world. The ones that hold such prestigious titles and benefit from our hard earned taxes to fund their plans for a prosperous and ongoing life for us all. The ones that could make a difference with the positions they acquire. They hear, see and read about so many innocent civilian lives being hastily taken away from two sides. One that believes its actions are justified due to terrorism and provocation. The other that believes it should not have to allow one country (Israel) in control of another country’s way of governing itself or limiting itself from growth. I fully understand both sides, but what I don’t understand is how can those be good enough reasons for the destruction of buildings, monuments, homes, lives, but most importantly what was believed to finally be “PEACE”.
Another point I’d like to mention is how we live in a world that has many super powers as far as military goes, and that Israel is clearly one of them. Well Lebanon isn’t, obviously not if they’re source of retaliation towards Israel’s bombings is from a “mob”. In this scenario Israel is the muscle, and Lebanon is the average guy, why is it that no one is stopping the fight even though the bell has rung? I’m not saying take sides, but at least think of all the people that are suffering in the mix of this war. Intervene, pause it and come to a fair understanding where no one needs to loose their lives over other people’s actions. Isn’t it somewhat of a contradiction if Israel, US, Britain, Canada are determined to put an end to terrorism, when in fact their actions are terrorizing a country that hasn’t even been blamed for what had prompted all of this to happen last Wednesday?
Also, if it was in Bush and Harper’s interest to do what’s best for their own country, why haven’t they simply intervened as soon as they saw how it’s affected its own citizens? For starters, the innocent American and Canadian lives which are at stake. The civilian Lebanese families and friends that are at danger of these same citizens. Lastly the Gas prices that have been hitting record highs, which in turn affect the citizens once again. Those are just to name a few.
It brings me some comfort that there are a substantial amount of people to care enough about what’s happening to put this site together so that maybe our voices might one day be heard by the right set of ears and put an end to this outrage.
May God protect the innocent, and help those in need.
July 17th, 2006 at 6:07 pm
OUTSIDE the sphere of politics, above it and beyond, There is an ancient unity; a spirtual bond, of creatures who are one in God, the the fetered and the free, This is the hope of all the world: this unseen unity.
Bursting through the narrow creeds of racial vanity, Flooding and oblitirating every boundry, Flowing in a mighty and immeasurable tide, Fed by crimson rivers from the spear wounds in His side.
For we have one hope, one God, and one unswerving aim, common, international. Allegiance to one NAME (God).
This alone can free the nations so that War may cease. God our hope, the only Saviour, and the Prince of Peace.
Only God can save Lebanon
July 17th, 2006 at 6:22 pm
How can this happen to such warm and loving people.
There is no glory in death. No God forgives war. Turn the other cheek Israel. They will be judged. Strength in your own religious & moral convictions far outweighs that of a strength in military force.
Show your strength and extreme intellegence by being the first to back down. Think outside the circle and you will always find a better answer. You mean well and our hearts go out to you but you are killing Lebanon and embracing the hatred of your agressors.
This is an act of agression from an extremist group. So why destroy a country? You can only do this if you chose to save it…..
God Bless you all and may the angels guide you to peace, safety and recovery.
July 17th, 2006 at 6:41 pm
May Glod bless their souls, and give strengh to their families.
Can this honestly be the only way to seek “peace”? how much more do we hav to endure? let’s hope that this is the last time that lebanon will be the bloody battle ground for other countries tensions
July 17th, 2006 at 6:43 pm
i wish that God will bless the lebanese resistence and i send my codelences to all the lebanese ppl, i would like to say just believe in God more and more he is the only sake for us in this war as well i would like all of us as arabic ppl to unite together and pray to God and hopefully we are the winners
God bless them
best regards
wael
July 17th, 2006 at 6:48 pm
the muslims of windsor, ontario, canada are with you all, the opressed ones, the homeless ones, the ones with bleeding hands and dead children and family members. we continuously pray for you, and pray that God will send us the One who will bring peace, justice, and equity to this tormented world.
July 17th, 2006 at 7:05 pm
I am mexican-lebanese and my hear is with Lebanese and Lebanon…
I pray this masacre stops soonest possible and i strongly condemn the agressive attacks of israel as most of the world does.
I pray Lebanon will soon be in peace and become AGAIN the great country it is and the great poeple Lebanese are !!!!
God Bless you all and takes my people safe thru all this insanity.
July 17th, 2006 at 7:17 pm
Lebanon, your people taught me to love you and I cry for you in your pain. Please Lord, restore peace to that lovely country and please protect her people.
July 17th, 2006 at 7:34 pm
my faith is weak, but seeinng the destruction, and especially the children dying innocently, i will pray, harder.
July 17th, 2006 at 7:51 pm
As a US citizen, an Egyptian by birth and a Jew, I feel terrible for what is happening in Lebanon. My good friends are Lebanese and the people of that beautiful country don’t deserve it. WE are all the victims of our corrupt leaders, who care not about their people, but about money and power. They are evil.
There is no reason that Hezbollah was bombing Israel BEFORE the soldiers were taken, and there is NO reason for Israel to destroy and kill the innocent people in Lebanon. It is time for the people to not listen and accept the lies of their corrupt leaders.
WE, the people want PEACE, NOT WAR.
July 17th, 2006 at 8:18 pm
Lebanese people don’t believe what they want us to believe, they r trying to convince the hole world that they are just defending themselves, check their media and compare it in what’s happening in lebanon, is it because of hezballah, how come they are attacking everything except hezbollah, how many people died till now and how many of hezbollah died.Is it because of 2 soldiers they are destroying a country, are the massacres they r doing in lebanon are justified and mesurable,i mean if killing innocent people is not an over action as the hole world is saying so what should happen more.They want us to believe that we are the ones who’s attacking,and that we deserve this punishment, and what a punishment.No one should tell Lebanese what to do in their Lebanon, that why we’ve been fighting for long time ago in Lebanon.
there cannot be any excuse to kill innocent people,canadians today after they saw the pictures of the children started saying this without even reading what’s written after they said this inhuman.
Our only care is Lebanon, nobody loves lebanon more than the other, so let’s proove to the ones who’s saying we deserve to be killed, that whatever they do we will stay united and God bless Lebanon
July 17th, 2006 at 9:04 pm
Hezbollah did this, only the Lebanese can stop it.
It’s time for the Lebanese to stop being pussies and kick Hezbollah out forever!
July 17th, 2006 at 9:06 pm
Jews are not bad, its the zionist regime that wants all the land from the Euphrates to the Nile as mentioned in the TORAH.
Lets not blame freedom fighters who were borne out of constant oppression, kidnapping and Israeli torture. Lebanese freedom fighters are still jailed, some since 1978, a long time for merely sticking up for their country.
Lets stand united, all share one voice, once cry to stop this zionistic regime that thinks by murder it would be prosperous.
God protect the oppressed and reign on the oppressor your wrath and hasten the apprearance of our beloved Jesus and Imam Mahdi peace be upon them.
July 17th, 2006 at 9:07 pm
This is the price Lebanon in paying for daring to support the Palestinians.
If Arab countries can stick together and show some solidarity, Israel will step back This tragedy as well as the daily tragedy of the Palestinian people will never have occurred if the world say NO to Israel, and the world will never hear our voice until we unite, the whisper of single Arab nations simply can not be heard.
If there is anyone to blame here it is the Arab countries that allow this to happen.
Peace can only be achieved when Israel finds an equal opponent, when negotiations and peace become the only way to secure existence not merely an alternative reluctantly taken by the Jewish state.
July 17th, 2006 at 9:14 pm
Answer and a message to all lebanese/arabs that say Hezbollah is responsible for everything: U dont have any dignity for lebanon, go see your leaders about their history.:) For all leaders especially, Jordan, Egypt, Arabia S.: Go to the heal, your days are coming soon. Hezbollah is dignity itself for arabs and lebanese people. We support all the people that love lebanon from HEART and whom resisting against the Terrorism: ISRAEL. VIVE SAYED HASSAN NASSARALLAH, VIVE LE LIBAN, VIVE LES VRAIS LIBANAIS QUI SUPORTENT LE LIBAN COMME IL FAUT. Pour ceux qui veulent faire des problemes au liban, etre allies des Etats-Unis, d’Israel, pour ceux qui vont contre la nature d’eux-meme, JAMAIS VOUS ALLEZ AVOIR CE QUE VOUS VOULEZ PARCE QUE ON EST, NOUS LES VRAIS LIBANAIS, COMME UN MAIN DE FER CONTRE VOUS……
VIVE LE LIBAN, LIBRE SANS TOUS LES COMPLICES.
July 17th, 2006 at 9:28 pm
MY HEART IS BROKING…
MY HEART IS CRIYING…
I’M SUFERING…
OH GOD PLEASE…STOP THIS WAR!!! PLEASE GOD PLEASE!!!
WHAT SHE FAMILYS DO TO RECEIVED THIS DEATH???
OH GOD, BLESS THE LEBANON, AND DE LEBANESES….
LEBANON, I’M WITH YOU!!!ALWAYS….I LOVE YOU SO MUCH!!!
July 17th, 2006 at 9:28 pm
I am praying to God that this stops and the Lebanese people do not suffer anymore.
No one should have to see people suffer like this. And no one should be made to suffer at the hands of others with no cause.
I am crying writing this and seeing the pictures and I am not the only one…I think that even God is crying too.
July 17th, 2006 at 9:37 pm
They talk about Human rights, I ask myself if humans only tend to exist in certain countries or when that country is under pressure only then we tend to hear the slogan “Human right”.
Indeed during the past few days, civilians have been murdered by israeli air stickes and artillery. Infrastructure, such as bridges, roads, power plants and air ports, has been destroyed. The Gevena Conventions specifically state that such behaviour is a W A R C R I M E. However when it comes to anyone else around the world, if they break the Gevena conventions or an act of war crime, they must be punished for their crime. I aske myself is there such thing as H U M A N R I G H T S? let us pray for those whom have left us, indded it is time to unite the ummah and fallow the Quran and the Sunnah.
July 17th, 2006 at 9:40 pm
To the people of lebanon whom are affected by the war, God is with you,never give up ur faith for The bible said “CALL UPON THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WHEN U RE IN DISTRESS,AND HE WILL RESCUE YOU` All those who call this a holy war are FOOLS,and should not be seen in the mist of the humans.Never blame anyone coz u dont know what actually happened before the commence of the war.
May God give us the peace that we deserve thru Christ our lord,AMEN.
July 17th, 2006 at 9:44 pm
They talk about Human rights, I ask myself if humans only tend to exist in certain countries or when that country is under pressure only then we tend to hear the slogan “Human right”.
Indeed during the past few days, civilians have been murdered by israeli air stickes and artillery. Infrastructure, such as bridges, roads, power plants and air ports, has been destroyed. The Gevena Conventions specifically state that such behaviour is a W A R C R I M E. However when it comes to anyone else around the world, if they break the Gevena conventions or an act of war crime, they must be punished for their crime. I ask myself is there such thing as H U M A N R I G H T S? Its time to wake up!! indeed its time to unite the ummah and fallow the Quran and the Sunnah.
July 17th, 2006 at 10:48 pm
did hezbollah make a mistake or not?
ofcourse they did, but right now we should all be united against 1 criminal, terrorist bloodthirsty racist state, destroying lebanon, killing the children for no valuable reason, there is no valuable reason for killing children. No country was ever destroyed for 2 soldiers.
i used to bieleve in peace with israel, but living under their planes and bombs in constant fear made me change my mind.
i feel only pure hate towards israel
July 17th, 2006 at 10:49 pm
Nobody said that what’s happening in Lebanon isn’t a tragedy. I only wish to point out that Israeli children have been killed as well, and that’s just as tragic. Also, remember that HEZBOLLAH is ultimately responsible for the deaths of these innocents, not Israel itself. That is all.
July 17th, 2006 at 11:39 pm
Has Lebanon become a new “Saving Private Ryan” story? Or has it become an Iraq-like “short-term” invasion? Where are we headed? What will you do about it? My heart cries and my soul trembles at the news that Im hearing from so far away…I wish I could do more to help…
UNITED WE STAND! GOD BLESS LEBANON, the Land of the Cedars, the Land of the many Biblical happenings and the Land of beauty, grace and faith.
Houston, TX
-Daniel
July 17th, 2006 at 11:50 pm
Let us be very clear on one point:
There is only ONE party to blame here, and that is The State of Israel.
Everything else is details, and a distraction. Israel continues to act with impunity (i.e. doesn’t care what anyone says) and outside forces keep war alive year after year because the arab world allows them to divide us.
And WAAY too often, we fall into the trap and betray each other. I’m encouraged by many posts here to start thinking that this will be NO MORE.
Let’s repeat to ourselves again who is the only party responsible for the destruction of a country (Lebanon), the systematic genocide against a people (the Palestinians) and the vilification of all arabs:
The State of Israel.
July 18th, 2006 at 12:54 am
I want to say God Bless Us ( Hasbona allah wa ne3ma al-wakeel)
July 18th, 2006 at 12:58 am
It is terrible what happens in the Lebanon-Israel board. When I see this situation, I feel ashame to be a human being. How can we massacre innocents, these terrorists must feel guilty for the rest of their life.
I had scheduled to go to Lebanon this summer. Now I can’t but I promiss I will do it right after the conflict.
Lebanon civils need our backing, I have a thought for all these martyrs, specially for my friends and their family.
Liban, je suis de tout coeur avec toi.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:04 am
Let the pictures talk about itself.
Haram what’s happening to our Lebanon.
…..
July 18th, 2006 at 1:20 am
Only monsters and assassins and people with no hearts regardless diversity of religions and ethnicities can look at these photos and do not get upset and depressed at one time and at other times angry and willing to revenge those people who are dying for non proper reasons, only because they are “LEBANESE”.
I like to watch these pics and my anger may get to the top and i may become hopefully what they call these days “Terorist” just because i want to defend my country and revenge tjose little innocent babies who have been dying for long time at the front of the eyes of all big leaders (G8) showing full ignorance of these massacres, all human rights have beeb breached by these devils, they show no respect to UN and its nade decisions.
What do you expect guys?
Help provided by US? or GB, or Russia?
they all have the same reason to let this war going on, how much money they are making from selling weapons?
thats their interests
nations should always fight for their benefits
they will get involved one day when they feel satistfied about their sales…after loosing a lot of babies, elderlies and ….
The only way to stop that is the reunion of all nations against the devils, Israel,US, …..
God help innocents and destroy the devils
ameen
July 18th, 2006 at 1:30 am
I’m amazed at the lack of intelligent and coherent thoughts emminating from a lot of the posters here. Do you honestly think that Israel has struck out because of the killing of a couple of soldiers and the capture of a few others?? Try decades of cowardly Hezbollah scum indiscriminantly firing rockets into their civilian population centres, decades of scum blowing themselves up and tearing apart innocent men, women and children. And now that they have decided to strike out at Hezboullah all of a sudden you find the notion that innocent men, women and children could be killed abhorent?
Where’s was your outrage when it was Jewish men, women and children being scrapped up off the pavements of Tel Aviv, Haifa etc?? You complain that its only day 2 of what promises to be a long war whilst they have put up with this treatment on a daily for decades!! Hezbollah are part of YOUR government, YOU voted them into power, THEY are the ones launching cowardly attacks into a sovreign nation!!
How about you start protesting and demand YOUR government do what it should do and look after its people by eradicating these maggot scum (Hezbollah) instead of letting them use you in their proxy wars?? Is that too hard a concept to get through to you?
Israel is a sovereign and democratic nation, Lebanon is a sovereign and democratic nation and both sides are being used and abused by a murderous bunch of psycopaths to continue their own existance and orgy of death. Hezbollah brings nothing but death and destruction to everything they touch, support them and you are supporting the continuation of decades of murderous thuggery and the continued killing of children, both Israeli and Lebanese. Is that the kind of world you want to live in? Is that the kind of world you want your childrn to live in?
July 18th, 2006 at 1:33 am
This is not right! The world community must get involved and stop this non-sense. I have friends who are Lebanese and the people in Lebanon don’t deserve this? The big shots in the G8 meeting all need to put an end to all this. Both countries need to lay down it’s arm and talk. Too many kids lives on both sides are in jepordy. What is the world coming to?
July 18th, 2006 at 1:34 am
God help Lebanon
July 18th, 2006 at 1:35 am
I HOPE NASRALLAH KNOWS NOW WHAT PAIN HE’S CAUSING BY DIRECTING THOSE CRMINAL OF ISRAEL TOWARDS US & FALLING IN THE SAME TRAP OF THE STUPID SADDAM.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:35 am
seeing this photos is totally uncompasionate. This is barbaric act anybody sees this will get their heart to lebanon as they are suffering from some organization in which the intention is so evil. May god bless them
July 18th, 2006 at 1:51 am
Hitler certainly had a profound effect on those he punished, he not only punished and killed them, but he somehow managed to poison them, leaving them heartless, cold and of the most barbaric creatures on earth. Hitlers Victims you are no longer, the word villain will be attached to your name for all of eternity.
July 18th, 2006 at 2:03 am
THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR WHAT ISRAEL IS DOING.
THEY ARE BOMBING LEBANON AND CLAIMING THAT THEY ARE GETTING RID OF HIZBOLLAH, BUT THEY NEED TO REALISE THAT FOR EVERY ONE THAT THEY KILL ANOTHER 6 ARE CREATED. THEY IN A WAR THAT THEY CANT WIN.
July 18th, 2006 at 2:04 am
GO LEBANON, STICK RIGHT UP THOSES BLOODY JEWS
July 18th, 2006 at 2:16 am
des images choquantes mais juste une chose Où SONT LES ARABES, je suis arabe et musulmane mais j’ai vraiment une grande haine envers les arabes c avec notre pétrole (oui le pétrole des arabes) que fonctionnent leur bulldozers pour tuer nos fréres et nos soeurs, vraiment une HONTE
July 18th, 2006 at 2:24 am
NO HEAVENLY RELIGION SUPPORTS KILLING & MURDERING.
ALL RELIGIONS WERE SENT TO THIS PLANET TO GUIDE HUMANS TO LIVE BETTER LIVES.
BUT HUMANS ARE STUPID & GREEDY, WE WANT ALL THE POWER ALL THE MONEY, THE WHOLE PLANET JUST FOR US IF WE COULD NO OTHER CREATURE…!
BUT THE WORLD MUST NOT FORGET THAT NO MAN/WOMAN/CHILD OR KING WILL LIVE FOREVER.
THEY ALL WILL FACE DEATH ONE DAY AND WHEN THEY DO,
EVEN THE MIGHTY KINGS WILL HAVE NO EXCUSES…AS THEY TOO ARE MADE FROM FLESH & BLOOD AND SINS…NO ONE IS REALLY GREAT…ALL HUMANS ARE ALIKE & EQUAL…THEY COME NAKED & GO NAKED AND RETURN TO NATURE.
THIS LIFE IS A JOURNEY TO SEPERATE THE GOOD FROM THE EVIL… SO FOR ALL THOSE ARMIES & MURDERERS OF ALL CULTURES & RELIGIONS STOP THE KILLING…AS YOU TOO WILL FACE DEATH ONE DAY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER …
YOU ONLY UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU LOOSE A LOVED ONE.
DEATH IS THE SOUND OF TRUTH THAT ENDS ALL EVIL AND GOOD THE SAME. ASK YOURSELF WHAT IS THERE IN THIS LIFE AND WHAT IS THERE IN THE AFTER LIFE IF THERE IS SUCH A PLACE …AS IT WOULD SOUND DULL TO KNOW THAT YOU LIVE ONLY ONCE, YOU EAT TO LIVE THEN DIE TO LET OTHERS LIVE …
POLITICS & POWER IS THE FUEL OF ALL EVIL, HENCE PEOPLE WHO ARE POLITICALLY THE STRONGEST & MOST POWERFUL ARE SURELY ALL EVIL.
I ALWAYS BELIEVED NEVER FOLLOW THE CROWD AND ASK THE QUESTION WHY & BE TRUE TO YOURSELF.
A MESSAGE OF PEACE TO ALL PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET STOP THE KILLING IN LEBANON AND ALL OVER THE WORLD…WHY DO POEPLE HAVE TO DIE FOR WHAT CAUSE FOR LAND …
THE ONLY LAND YOU WILL TAKE IS NOT EVEN YOUR GRAVE’S.
HUMANS, HUMANS, HUMANS, ANIMALS ONLY KILL TO FEED…
WHY DO HUMANS KILL …ITS FOR FUN OF POWER AND MONEY.
HUMANS ARE THE WORST CREATURES ON THIS PLANET.
EVEN HUMAN RIGHTS IS BIASED …HOW FUNNY IS THAT.
I TRUELY FEAR TODAYS WORLD…I ALWAYS PRAY FOR A BETTER TOMORROW… SO I PRAY TO GOD TO HELP THOSE IN NEED AS NO ELSE DOES EVER HELP.
WE LIVE IN A WORLD OF UTTER BULLSHIT .
July 18th, 2006 at 2:24 am
Is there any Muslim in the world????
If yes I ask them at least to stop supporting US and Israel.
July 18th, 2006 at 2:31 am
Stop killing people ,children and women !!are the people blind or heartless? I can’t believe that in 2006 a such crimes can be comitted before the eyes of the world and no one can say STOP It is too Much !!!!!
God Bless Lebanon and its people .
July 18th, 2006 at 2:36 am
This is just a big game for them when is it going to end the all big mighty USA man they can talk and do allot of shit when they want…
What I think… They want this. To them its another Arabic / Islamic country distorted… they don’t see people or families because of there hate…
come on they just got out of war…
July 18th, 2006 at 3:29 am
Lebanese pride is in my mind, Lebanese blood is in my kind, so step aside and let me through coz its all about the lebo crew, united we stand, divide we fall, u can shoot one lebo but IM SURE u can shoot them all..
:( xxx god bless
July 18th, 2006 at 3:36 am
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July 18th, 2006 at 4:30 am
I live in Israel but I am against this war!
I wish it never happened.
I can’t stand seeing those children who never done anything bad dying!
And when you say the Israelis doing this to us, remember not all of us supporting this, not all of us even jews!
We just can’t do anything :(
July 18th, 2006 at 4:50 am
I hope this evil nasrallah go to hell. he stabbed us in the back. Lebanon doesn’t mean anything to him.
i hope you die you fucken iranian-syrian puppet.
July 18th, 2006 at 4:59 am
i thought the world would start learning from history…wishfull thinking!
July 18th, 2006 at 5:18 am
Sham on those who hurt the innocent people of Leb.
Sham on you Bush. You really do talk with two tonges. Men women and children are hurt or even dead because of you.We would like to know how do you sleep at nite. May the All mighty have mercy on them Inshallah. As-salaam to all we pray for ur safty
July 18th, 2006 at 5:48 am
Depuis l’an 2000, en moyenne 20 pleintes par mois ont été lancées par les Libanais contre Israël, les Nations Unis ne disent aucun mots et n’approuvent aucun désaccord.
Alors on prendra les choses en mains, car le Liban a le droit de se déffendre contre ses ennemis. Le liban ne sucombra JAMAIS à la violance des terroristes israeliens, ni à la lacheté des pays Arabe qui ne sont que des telespectateurs devant leurs télé.
La définition qui colle à la peau des israeliens c’est le mot “terroriste”: c’est une personne qui cause la terreure en provoquant des morts innocents.
Quitter notre terre, liberer les otages et fouter nous la paix. Vous êtes les violeurs et les criminels et nous, nous sommes le cèdre sur la plus haute montagne sur terre qui survivra malgré vous et vos tempête.
Vive le Liban, vive le courage des libanais et vive le Liban Uni.
July 18th, 2006 at 6:29 am
WHY WHY WHY? No cause justifies such actions … Neither parties want to surrender nor put an end to this and civilians have to pay… We are sitting in our comfortable homes in a safe country every day & night watching TV.. Sobbing yes, depressing yes, sad yes, angry yes….. etc but the worst feeling is feeling helpless and useless, wondering when will this end
May God bless Lebanon and the Lebanese and may the causers burn in hell… Amen
July 18th, 2006 at 6:49 am
Really very sad to note it - where is the so called ‘civilized world’. One must remember “history repeats itself” - so let’s not be cruel but helpful.
July 18th, 2006 at 6:49 am
“Martyrs against those pigs”
July 18th, 2006 at 7:09 am
I was going to write I cry everyday for Lebanon, I was going to say I love Lebanon, I was going to say this tragedy must be stopped, I was going to say I want peace for my courageous Lebanese friends who hosted me in their wonderful country, with their arms as well as with their hearts when I read this message written at 9:14 by this person named Moudy I understand his sadness and suffering but please on a chain like this no hateful message show the exemple for your country and don’t spoil those peaceful and beautiful demands. AS WE ALL WANT PEACE FOR LEBANON
July 18th, 2006 at 7:18 am
Le terrorisme consiste à frapper les civils désarmés afin de semer la terreur ce qui fait de l’état d’Israel un état terroriste par excellence dont l’action destructrice au liban est soutenu par 85 % de sa population ! Dans ce cas est ce qu’on ne doit pas parler d’une démocracie terrorisme ? vive le liban
July 18th, 2006 at 7:25 am
To all the lebanese people our hearts and prayers are with you from your brothers and sisters in Australia. PEACE NOT WAR… Inshallah israel shall be defeated
July 18th, 2006 at 7:38 am
WHY?
July 18th, 2006 at 7:39 am
غابت شمس الحق … وصار الفجر غروب
كلن ياجنوب باعوك الكلام … والعدل مسلوب عم بنزف السلام
جوليا بطرس
July 18th, 2006 at 7:46 am
PRAY 4 LEBANON
July 18th, 2006 at 7:54 am
Stop this massacre ASAP….
Wyh to kill these people !!!
Nothing they did to deserve this :((
July 18th, 2006 at 8:16 am
قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
توشك الأمم أن تداعى عليكم كما تداعى الأكلة إلى قصعتها . فقال قائل : ومن قلة نحن يومئذ ؟ قال : بل أنتم يومئذ كثير ؛ ولكنكم غثاء كغثاء السيل ، ولينزعن الله من صدور عدوكم المهابة منكم ، وليقذفن الله في قلوبكم الوهن . فقال قائل : يا رسول الله ! وما الوهن ؟ قال : حب الدنيا وكراهية الموت
صدق رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
نعم … حب الدنيا وكراهية الموت
July 18th, 2006 at 8:20 am
i’m an israeli. u gave to the seed of evil to live in your country.
u knew that he wants to destroy israel. u knew where his HQ.
u didn’t do anything when he was bombing us from time to time.
u didn’t do anything to kick him from your country.
u let him bring missels to south lebanon. u knew that he would fire that missles one day. u didnt do any thing …and nassrala kidnepped 2 soldiers and killed 5 more….just like that.
to know for such along time and ,to do nothing ,means to cooperate with him.
i’m sorry for u…but i’m sorry for us more.
July 18th, 2006 at 8:22 am
To all Lebanese people, To the free souls and minds, live united or die in shame
July 18th, 2006 at 8:33 am
the world need Peace,not need Evil,,,,,stop WAR.
July 18th, 2006 at 8:35 am
God bless Libano and his People in order to gain peace and serenity again. No one will give us back this chirldren but they’ll stay forever in our hearth as martyrs of innocence.
July 18th, 2006 at 8:46 am
peace not war. respect each other. we believe in a better way. stay united.
July 18th, 2006 at 8:49 am
Can any one tell me the difference with the Nazi Barbaries?
July 18th, 2006 at 9:10 am
hallo,i’m from israel. i’m very sorry for you,
trust me we don’t want this war eather,
we don’t want to kill or to die,
i wish we could all live in peace and prosperity…
but hizballah started this war,
people here dying, including kids.
our friends and parents are under everyday attack from
hizballah!!!
but Nasrallah declaimed ths war by killing and
kidnepping our soldiers, why?! was it worth it?
we don’t hate anyone, we really want peace,
but how can we live like this? when palestinians
bomb themselves in our cities, killing people,
kidnepping our soldiers and citizens!!!
when hizballah from lebanon kidnepps and kills soldiers from our territory!!!
and then bombs us- is this a civilizated way to live?!
is this the road to peace?!
we all hurt, but we all have to do more than praying
for keeping peace in our countries
July 18th, 2006 at 9:29 am
Le silence du monde occidentale sur ce qui se passe maintenant est la preuve de leur culpabilité dans le génocide organisé par l’état terroriste sioniste. Nous paierons tous les conséquences de ces actes car c’est “l’homme” qu’on tue et pas seulement des habitants d’une régions. Comment justifier ces meurtres devantle Tout Puissant? Folie, déraison,….mais l’histoire n’est pas finie, elle ne fait que commencer. La justice divine sera impitoyable.”Ne faite pas aux autres ce que vous n’aimeriez pas que l’on vous fasse”… car vous serez votre propre juge. Prions pour la soufrance de ce peuple.
July 18th, 2006 at 9:35 am
Le ciel nous tombe une nouvelle fois sur la tête, mais te le phoenix nous renaîtront encore cette fois de nos cendres. Le Liban une nouvelles détruit pour les autres, une nouvelles fois martyrs de la région, nous tiendront debout et nous te reconstruiront pour que tu reste le message et la preuve de la coexistence entre toute les civilisations et toutes les religions.
July 18th, 2006 at 9:35 am
Hizaballah make a decision to kidnap 2 soldiers in a country which is not there’s, they stay un-welcomed, and if they want to fight go to iran and fight. IF they want prisoners in isreal they should first go to a arab country and get our prisoners, Syria has hundreds of Lebanese priosoners. Why dont they declare war on Syria??? They are not welcomed and know that israel will find any reason to destroy us. GOD BLESS LEBANON
July 18th, 2006 at 9:39 am
Pray and SHOUT!!!! At every breath, every minute, every day, just shout that LEBANON WILL LIVE. The world can not shut up forever.
Part of my heart is lebanese
July 18th, 2006 at 9:51 am
Shame on Hezbollah, shame on Israel, they are both criminals and behind them the huge countries that are backing them with bombs and guns…Israel has the biggest frustration of the entire humanity and this is why they canot live without fighting, it is necesary for them to feed his adrenaline with hate…This is one of his multiples wars and he will go on and on forever…
I feel sorry for the libanese people who has to live with this neighbord for the rest of the human life.
July 18th, 2006 at 9:57 am
may Allah help muslims in all over the world espcially in lebanon,palestine and iraq
July 18th, 2006 at 9:59 am
I’m not sorry for the invasion on Israel. WHO THE F*UCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE!?!?
We are all equal. We should all treat each other with humanity and respect. You b@st@rds think you are better than us. I do not justify what Hezbollah have done, but you have been pushing us for far to long and this was the straw that broke the camels back.
I wish we were stronger than you and you sit back for decades and see how nice it is to be pushed around.
Leave us alone and we will do the same. Neutralize Hezbollah, but why destroy Lebanon whom you claim not to be your enemy.
ISRAEL AND USA ARE LIARS.
July 18th, 2006 at 10:21 am
They should not talk about the Holocaust any more! please!
July 18th, 2006 at 10:30 am
and we decreed for the children of israel in the scripture: ye verily will work corruption in the earth twice, and ye will become great tyrants.
united we stand together we fall!
may god look over lebanon & protect it.
July 18th, 2006 at 10:37 am
Je veux juste expliquer à nos ‘amis’ d’Israël qui après avoir vu les images ci-dessus, osent comparer les massacres de l’armée Israélienne à l’action de hezbollah qui a tenter de récupérer ses prisonniers détenus en Israël. Le hezbollah a été créé au Liban suite à l’incrusion de l’armée israélienne en 1982. Vous l’avez créé et nous en somme fiers. Je suis fier d’appartenir à un pays dans lequel des gens comme le hezbollah, osent dire NON à Israël, aux états unis et à leurs alliés dans le mal.
Vous ne connaissez pas hezbollah ! allez demander des explications à vos médias qui vous mentent depuis l’existence d’Israël. Votre état existe encore parce qu’il est fort et soutenu par les états unis mais ce n’est pas durable pour toujours… et nous avons beaucoup de patience.
July 18th, 2006 at 10:40 am
Please see this:
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/136269_comment.php
July 18th, 2006 at 10:57 am
how Israël People forget that he still in our country? how Israël people dont look what they do in lebanon before now? Since 2000, every mounth 20 pleintes is written to United Nation against Israël. Who is killer now? and who is the terrorist?
85% of lebanese population support Hezboullah against Israël because we have a part of our country still in Israël occupation and more than 4000 of lebanese in the Israël prison. that Why Hezboullah Attack Israël.
get out of our country and release the lebanese and we will make you in peace.
God will be with lebanon people. God save lebanon and lebanese people. my admiration to lebanese courage.
July 18th, 2006 at 11:04 am
Get them the hell out of Lebanon. Bloody handed Isrealies!!!
July 18th, 2006 at 11:17 am
ISRAELI people:
How can you want peace with us if you are occupying our terrain?
We can’t forget Kana’s massacre.
Samir Al Kuntar is worth than Kana?
Hizbollah doesnt kill people escaping from their village in a pick-up….
Is this your peace?
July 18th, 2006 at 11:31 am
Every body pray for Lebanon but nothing gona stop this WAR ? We have already payed by a civil war who was organised by outside !! Why some men still blind ?
This is not our war !! We want live in peace in our country , the marveleous Lebanon !! leave us alone , we can all live together without any problem I promisse u …
Im so sad Im angry ….
What happening is inacceptable
Civilians are diying & that same outside is watching
July 18th, 2006 at 1:09 pm
“Imagine there’s no heaven, It’s easy if you try,No hell below us,Above us only sky,Imagine all the people
living for today…
Imagine there’s no countries,t isn’t hard to do,Nothing to kill or die for,No religion too,Imagine all the people
living life in peace…
Imagine no possessions,I wonder if you can,No need for greed or hunger,A brotherhood of men,imagine all the people
Sharing all the world…
You may say I’m a dreamer,but Im not the only one,I hope some day you’ll join us,And the world will live as one” (Lennon)
They stop! The war is she-ass! Defenseless families are dying
July 18th, 2006 at 1:10 pm
entre le parti de DIEU ‘ hezbollah” et le peuple qui a vu Dieu’ israel” des massacres sont commis au quotidien. au nom de qui ? serait ce au nom de Dieu? et pour faire plaisir a quel DIEU?
je m’adresse aux israeliens pour leurs dire : vous avez fait de jerusalem” la terre de la paix ou la cite de la paix” une terre de guerre, de haine et de sang..et votre DIEU a toujours soif de sang..cela ne vous a pas suffit, vous vous permettez d’etendre votre malediction dans le temps et dans l’espace.. relisez l’histoire , votre histoire..vous etiez et restez des assassins…tout en pretendant etre des victimes.violant la jerusalem terrestre afin de realiser la jerusalem celeste.
tuant, sacrifiant des innocents sur l’hotel de vos croyances..
au Hezbollah un seul mot..”vous n’avez pas le droit d’entrainer le peuple libanais dans votre folie..votre fanatisme et vos croyances..
vous parlez de fierte et de defense des victimes..mais vous en faites tous les jours.. c’est grace a vos soins que nos enfants meurent de faim, perdent leurs parents, se cachent pour survivre ou mourir. bravo vous avez parfaitement bien servi le monstre israelien…sous pretexte de defendre le liban , vous l’avez completement detruit.
Dieu vous a t il demande de faire ca?”
israelien et hezbollah , dites moi qui est votre DIEU? comment est il celui qui vous incite a tant de fanatisme de violence et de haine?
July 18th, 2006 at 1:18 pm
Please stop this crisis and destroying such a beatufil country and its most dearest innocent people. In the 21st century there should be a way to negotiate without war.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:30 pm
Caros Camaradas repassem urgente a todos os contatos… Abraços!!!
July 18th, 2006 at 1:42 pm
WHO IDIOTS HAVE THE GUTS TO POINT UR FINGERS TO HIZBULLAH……ALL THESE PICTURES OPENED A GREAT WOUND IN MY HEART..BUT MADE ANGRIER…HEZBULLAH HAVE BROUGHT TO US NOTHING BUT GLORY AND PRIDE…THE TWO THINGS THAT SOME LEBANESE DONT HAVE..THOSE WHO DONT WANT TO FIGHT…THOSE WHO HAVE NO PROBLEM TO BE LIKE SOME OF THE ARABIAN COUNTRIES AMERICAN DOGS..BUT NOOO…I CALL FOR THE FIGHT…DO U THINK THAT THIS IS STILL A MATTER OF TWO KIDNAPPED SOLIDIERS????..CANT BELIEVE IT…FOR NOW I CALL TO BE UNITED…LEBANONS RESISTENCE IS ON THE LINE..IF WE LOOSE WE WILL BECOME LIKE EGYPT AND JORDANS AND UAE’S GOVERMENTS…LIVE SLAVE OR DIE FREE…
July 18th, 2006 at 1:42 pm
Humans never learn of the past !!!!
Stop this immediately - it need one to make first step!!
All who have a mouth to say against - DONE IT
All who have a will to be against - DONE IT
Pray for all innocent victims in this war
July 18th, 2006 at 1:48 pm
é muito triste ver essas cenas…
Pedir a deus que isso acabe é o minimo que podemos fazer.
July 18th, 2006 at 2:20 pm
For all those whos prayers are with Lebanon, DO NOT FORGET our brothers and sisters who have been suffering emensely in Palestine, Iraq, Syria, and other nations who were victims of wars along the years.
Who is to blame? Israels government and military is definately first to blame as well as Bush and his administration for going way beyond moral grounds and filling not only Lebanon, but also Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan with storms of bloodshed onto the innocent lives of civilians day in and day out along with the massive destruction of infrastructures and homes.
2ndly, international leaders who remain mute to the ongoing injustice & destructive attrocities are to blame. Action must be taken. Where on earth is this justice that everyone speaks of??? It doesnt seem to exist! Why do all these leaders remain as bystanders?
More voices must be heard and more action must be taken. Sitting home and praying for peace to soothe the problems wont do much. Our prayers and actions along with voicing out these inhumane evil-doings may help the victims situations InshAllah. Peace will not follow until justice prevails.
July 18th, 2006 at 2:40 pm
Even if hezbollah kidnapped 2 soldiers israel should not do what she is doing today! why do we have to give the 2 israel soldiers when they already have hundreds of lebanese ppl in their jails, hezbollah did not start the wor they have the right to protect themselves and do what thet are doing, we want our lands we want our lebanese ppl that are in the israel jails, we want israel to leave us alone,
God protect our country from these bad ppl
July 18th, 2006 at 2:50 pm
Whoever talks about terrorism should have a look at the following video: http://marwaheen.blogspot.com to understand the real terrorist in the Middle East. Whenever I came to Lebanon I was welcomed as a friend under friends. I felt at home there more than in my own country. It is a shame that some countries just think they are better than others. I wonder if Lebanon would still have to fight alone if there would be petrol? Guess not. Shame on Europe (I am European myself). Are our governments again just puppets and clowns for USA? I am sorry Lebanon. You have not deserved anything like that. I hope this is all going to be over soon and the real murderer of innocent civilians will pay for what they have done with your country!
July 18th, 2006 at 2:57 pm
just thing about people and childrens daying.nobody thing about GOD,GOD very sad from all,stop all that,stop war,stop killed people, return to GOD AND LOVE EACH OTHER PLZ…..
GOD SAVE ALL THE WORLD AND BLESS LEBANON
July 18th, 2006 at 3:02 pm
The attacks on innocent civilians on both sides are unforgivable. Both Hizbollah and Israeli government must be condemned for their actions, both are playing with people’s sentiments while neither are true friends and representative of the people. I hope one day people on both sides realize that only by uniting with one another in a truly democratic conditions and determining their future, can they resolve the ongoing conflicts that have been taking heavy tolls on both sides.
The power of the people is amazing!
July 18th, 2006 at 3:17 pm
Lebanon is always the victim!!! We will rebuilt it as our parents and grand parents have done before us. Lebanon will never desapear… That what everybody could not beleive…They should beleive that they can never make us stop building it…
July 18th, 2006 at 3:33 pm
HEY u the one that want peace wat kinda peace are u talkin about peace where u guys got power over us . listen my dear u dont know the people from south lebanon how we are we are survivors we will never give or have peace till we get wat we want we want our land shib3a and we want the lebanese hostages in israeli prisons they been there for mroe than 24 years or u forgot that one we wat ur government to stop stealin our water … ohhh yeah and why cant ur governemtn keep it army agains an army coz hizbullah isnt a militia no more hunn it is an army and deal with it we want peace tooo but thats after u guys know wats peace and i think u guys will never undstand it .. didnt u say we killed soldiers and kidnapped 2 of them k why bomb the civilians … i tell u why coz ur army has passion doin that the first 3 days we didnt kill ur civilians and nassrallah told u guys dont hit the capital and we wont hit haifa but olmert thinks he is a tuff asss and u guys did too bad hunn to late ppl already died and buildings already fell think now hizbullah is gonna give them back ur wrong …. im not happy havin ur family bien bombed and bien killed but hey ur best option is leave the country leave it for tis ppl go back where ur grand parents came from
July 18th, 2006 at 3:33 pm
Guys ,, it’s really true what you’re saying but let’s try 2do something except blaming each other.
let’s help our families in our country or @ least what left from it .
let’s help ourselves first then we think about z …(others ).
god bless us… >>> because. We. Are. Lebanon.
July 18th, 2006 at 4:03 pm
Since the establishment of Israel, only war and destruction has occured…I am ashamed of our arab leaders…Only Iran and Syria are standing with the Libanese!!
July 18th, 2006 at 4:09 pm
wars may be fought with weapons but they are won by men! everyone stand up and shout loud lebanon will never be destroyed we are heroes and we will always be inshalah ..and god is with us and with hozeballah we have to stick together and pray for this enemy to be beaten..kilna ma3ak ya sayed hasan nasrallah…w god bless lebanon
July 18th, 2006 at 4:09 pm
Daily incursions into soveriegn nations. Bullying others into submission. Keeping unlawful children prosoners of other nations. Threatening the entire region with violence. That is Israel.
My sympathies, my prayers, my well wishes, my condolences, my support and my deepest respects to the people of Lebanon and Hizbullah.
May you come out of this ordeal, stronger, better and more resilient than ever, Ameen.
July 18th, 2006 at 4:14 pm
HI EVERY BODY I WOULD LOVE TO SAY TO LAMA THAT SHE SHOULD NOT BLAME SAID HASSAN NASRALLAH BUT ALL THE LEBANESE THAT THINK LIKE YOU…. I WAS LISTENING TO THE RADIO TODAY ( CANADA ) AND GUESS WHAT THEY SAID THAT ALL THE LEBANESE ( YOU SHOULD KNOW FROM WITCH LEBANESE I’M TALKING ABOUT ) IN AMERICA ARE WITH ISRAEL FOR DESTROYING HEZBALLAH , ARE YOU STUPID OR YOUR JUST REALLY STUPID…
GOD BLESS HEZBALLAH AND I HOPE THAT ; WELL I’M POSITIVE THAT IS GOING TO SHOW YOU HOW MUCH YOUR WRONG………. DESTROYING HEZBALLAH IS DESTROYNG LEBANON …WHE ARE SUPPOSED TO COUNTE ON HO SAMIR JA3JA3 OR 3ON….PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT BEFOR YOU TALK !!!!
July 18th, 2006 at 4:21 pm
wars may be fought with weapons but they are won by men! everyone stand up and shout loud lebanon will never be destroyed we are heroes and we will always be inshalah ..and god is with us and with hozeballah we have to stick together and pray for this enemy to be beaten..kilna ma3ak ya sayed hasan nasrallah…w god bless lebanon
July 18th, 2006 at 4:24 pm
I’m crying, crying, crying for children of lebanon and palestina.
July 18th, 2006 at 4:25 pm
god bless lebanon
July 18th, 2006 at 4:26 pm
la3naat allah 3alayheem
July 18th, 2006 at 4:28 pm
I do not know if somebody has heart to see everything this, but I am infuriated with as many barbarities in this world, where the destination of all is equal. I came back of the Lebanon passed year, I have family there, and the worse one of everything is not to be able to make nothing. We lose everything, house, good, but thanks to God we are here in the Brazil. But and the other innocents? Holy war? With as much blood? Exists holy war people? For the love of God, I know that to say “theories” of the mouth for it are is very easy, but these Jews deserve what it happened with them times behind, but find that they had been forgotten concentration camps… nojentos and dirty Pigs! I want my house in return, while still alive vocês they will go to pay to me and the remaining portion of the people also they will know to charge. Bush its terrorist goes to take in its cú!
eu não sei se alguém tem coração para ver tudo isso, mas fico indignada com tantas barbaridades nesse mundo, onde o destino de todos são iguais. Voltei do Líbano ano passado, tenho família lá, e o pior de tudo é não poder fazer nada. Perdemos tudo, casa, bens, mas graças a Deus estamos aqui no Brazil. Mas e os outros inocentes? Guerra Santa? Com tanto sangue? Existe guerra santa povo? Pelo amor de Deus, sei que dizer “teorias” da boca para fora é muito fácil, mas esses Judeus merecem o que aconteceu com eles uns tempos atrás, mas acho que se esqueceram dos campos de concentrações…Porcos nojentos e imundos! Quero minha casa de volta, em vida vocês irão me pagar e o resto do povo também saberão cobrar. Bush seu terrorista vai tomar no seu cú!
July 18th, 2006 at 4:32 pm
There is no such thing as peace to Isreal…
WHY Lebanon?? WHY innocent civilians?? Is there a hidden agenda???
Has there not been enough bloodshed??
Isreal kill your terrorists (innocent woman and children)
Peace lies in Isreals hands, they are the stronger power. Lebanon has no chance against you, so back off and leave our Lebanon!!!
Your enemies are not in Lebanon and War is never the answer… It hasn’t worked so far has it???
Long Live Lebanon!! Long live the hopes of PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!!
July 18th, 2006 at 4:36 pm
It amazes me how Lebanon is almost completely flattened bridges, roads, airport and just about every other infrastructure, yet somehow still the Isrealis are still considered a victim in all of this in America and Canadas leaders eyes. Isreal drew first blood on innocent civillians and must be stopped dont mistake the initiator for the victim.. God help our nation and the Palestinians and keep the innocent safe.. long live Lubnan and Falasteen
July 18th, 2006 at 4:43 pm
stupid war like all war.
July 18th, 2006 at 5:06 pm
my heart breaks for such a vicious attack on a beautiful country. god bless and protect lebanon from this awful violence. i hope this ends with as little bloodshed, sooner than later.
No more killing innocent.
July 18th, 2006 at 5:43 pm
http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.org/
Freres Libanais, chretiens ou musulmans,soyons fort, unissons nous pour vaincre la destruction de notre Etat, de notre populations pour l’avenir de notre peuple , notre destinee et de notre avenir.
Ce sont nos grand peres(meres),peres( meres ), cousins ( cousines)et freres ( soeurs ) qui tombent sous le feu de l’ennemi.
Que Dieu benisse le Liban et le peuple Libanais au liban mais egalement a travers le monde dont nous sommes fiere de le presenter.
Faites des associations, manifester, creer des lobbys, ayez pour objectifs seul LE POUVOIR POUR AIDER LE LIBAN.
July 18th, 2006 at 5:51 pm
oh my god!!!!! god help these inocent people that have been dragged in2 this petty war and are copping all the pain and suffering
July 18th, 2006 at 5:51 pm
Bando de Judeus filhos das putas!!!
Raça de merda!!!
Bandidos, assasinos!!!!
July 18th, 2006 at 6:00 pm
ALLAH NAILS LOVE it is PEACE
BRAZIL THIS with THE SIBLINGS FROM LEBANON IN THAT FIGHT.
Don’t MAKE WAR, NAIL THE LOVE
saLAM
July 18th, 2006 at 6:10 pm
Je ne crois pas en Dieu mais je crois en la bonté “latente” des hommes et en leur force et leur potentiel de construction, d’aide, d’avancée, de paix entre eux et de responsabilité envers chaque élément qui compose notre monde.
Pourtant, quel est ce sentiment de tristesse et d’impuissance qui m’envahit en ce qui concerne le drame libanais ?
J’aimerais faire partie des gens qui sont avec vous et contre les meurtres d’innocents. Que la paix soit rétablie.
July 18th, 2006 at 6:26 pm
WHY ON EARTH DOESNT THE WORLD GET INVOLVED TO STOP THIS BULSHIT? JUST NOT FAIR……
July 18th, 2006 at 7:03 pm
your rage is our rage…
….Nel 1942 i nazisti massacravano civili inermi come vendetta per i loro ufficiali morti…
….Gli insegnamenti migliori non si scordano…….
our rage is your rage,
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you are welcome
Victor blogger from MILAN
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July 18th, 2006 at 7:03 pm
It’s hard to believe that this war is happening. I wish it was a nightmare. Some human beings are behaving like beasts for no reason other than power and arrogance. What can we say to the children who are living this atrocity? What about the innocent people who had no chance to escape hell on earth. Who can rob the little angels their lives other than the devils himself. Dead little Babies who will never know what their mission on this earth was. There is no right to do any of this. Where are the big nations now? Where is the human right now? Politicians are hypocrites and worship only power and money.
I ask God to keep every soul caught in this madness in a special place and make who is responsible pay for ever.
July 18th, 2006 at 7:34 pm
for those who blame nassrallah think again…its not news when there’s conflict at the southern lebanese borders between hisballah and isreal..it has always been,when isreal withdrew from southern leb in 2000 all wasnt water under the bridge.we still have parts of lebanon in their realms,not to mention innocent minors and women in their prisons,for those imprisoned IF they truly acted in crimes against isreal let them be prosecuted in there own country not isreal. isreal needed a reason to attack leb,ifit was concerend about only two kidnapped soldiers they would have retaliated against hisballa in southern leb like they always had not draw its destruction against across the country.
its a twisted government that isreal, and just as it reacts with self proclaimed “justice” with any means possible..SAYID HASSAN NASSRALLA has every right to lead, follow and even collaberate with whomever will stand with him.
further more..those lebanese that r against his actions can go back and raise the leb flag and chant support to ja3ja3 and other traitors..a whole lotta good that got u.SAYED HASSAN is true to his words and actions ..support and believe in him he’ll take us farther than any one has ever..its sad to lose innocent lives but rather do something now or we’d just end upin this predicament later on. his men are lebanons only force of resistance, who else stepped up?correct me if im wrong…peace!
July 18th, 2006 at 7:50 pm
As an Egyptian and an Arab I am thoroghly disgusted by the Arab response. “The peace process is dead” is all they could come up with?? Its times like this I am convinced that making peace with Israel was a big mistake. Israel would have never dared to attack Lebanon if their southern border was not safe! As usual Mubarak’s comments and actions are embarassing. Amr Moussa, as usual, was right on target when he said that Israel will do whatever it wants because it is not accountable to anyone.
I pray for all those being subjected to this massacre in Lebanon. God bless and inchallah Lebanon will rise again.
July 18th, 2006 at 7:54 pm
I don’t see any difference between Hitler who killed innocent Jews and air strikes from Israel that are hitting Lebanon and killing almost all inmocent civilians.
Israel said its assault on Lebanon is in self-defence against Hezbollah’s Katyusha rocket attacks and the capture of two of its soldiers.
Did you really know that Isreal has not been sitting idly by since its partial withdrawal from South Lebanon in 2000. It has not only continued to occupy parts of South Lebanon, but also has been violating Lebanese sovereignty, by air, sea, and land. Israel has also been kidnapping innocent Lebanese citizens Including fishermen and shepherds. Furthermore, Israel has adamantly refused to give to Lebanon a map of the more than 400,000 land mines that it left behind in South Lebanon, and which continue to kill Lebanese children in the region.
The Lebanese have been through a lot - the people of south Lebanon have been through scores of savage Israeli invasions and campaigns of aggression. Not only are the people known for resilience, but their ability to reconstruct and resume normal life - as much as possible - has become well known.
If they think they will create a Civil war in Lebanon they are dead wrong. Because the Lebanese people of all religions are united then ever.
God Pless Lebanon, The beauty and cultural value of this country will have no comparison with the devil of isreal.
July 18th, 2006 at 8:08 pm
Please stop destroying Lebanon… Why we always have to pay for the mistake of others?
LEBANON WILL STAY
July 18th, 2006 at 8:42 pm
Que Deus tenha piedade de todos aqueles que põem seus interesses mesquinhos e egoístas à frente da vida de um irmão.
Peace!
Save the lebanese civilians!
Stop the genocide!
July 18th, 2006 at 8:55 pm
mashallah these imagess are very depressing mayy allah bless them who are innocentt and let this war come to an end
July 18th, 2006 at 8:59 pm
Dear Nata,
You sound reasonable, but let us think:
- Only 17 Israelites were killed so far, more than 200 killed in Lebanon.
- If you really want peace, get out of occupied land(Syrian, Lebanese and Palestinian), release all prisoners of war, take back all the refugees who left there homes in 1948 because of you, pay back the three Palestinian generations living without a country(Not sure how you can do that!!) and then talk about peace.
- I am a Palestinian living in one of the Arab countries because my city is occupied. Do you know how it feels if you do not have a country of your own? I do not think so, because you stole mine.
- I believe in peace, because Jesus taught us how to love and forgive, but when I see those pictures above, I remember the saying: a picture says a million words. (Israel really wants peace)
July 18th, 2006 at 9:09 pm
Why Siria and Iran do not get involved on a war against Israel?
July 18th, 2006 at 9:13 pm
God bless Lebanon and Palestine .. Soon or Later , this life or another, Israel is gonna PAY for this authentic TERRORISM.
July 18th, 2006 at 9:30 pm
I see a “slight” amount of bias from some ppl who just can’t see why Lebanon is in its current condition.
How could anyone not realise the fact that thousands of Lebanese and Palestinians including mothers, children and farmers been kidnapped and jailed for over 20 yrs in Israel without a trail be justified?
How could you not see that Israel is constantly violating Lebanon’s borders by flying over its air and water space is justified?
How could you not see the death of thousands innocent children simply because they don’t have the appropriate antibiotic to treats a simple ear infection due to sanction be justified.
How could you not see that the Palestinians (Muslims and Christians) where the infrastructure have been attacked (water/ electrical powerhouse/ bridges) is this not a wore CRIME, is it not GAINST the Geneva convention???.
Remember Newton’s law “ever force there is an opposite or equal reaction”. One can not continue with their crime and expect no retaliation.
We pray for peace, we pray for patients and only seek help from our creator Allah (swt).
July 18th, 2006 at 9:38 pm
My heart and prayers go out to the innocent men, women, and children who lost their lives (on both sides). To all the Lebanese people reading this: Your own Hezbollah “freedom fighters” failed you and brought this destruction to your country…and it’s the Lebanese government’s fault for tolerating and accepting them. Once again, your country is paying the price. I hope this time it will, once and for all, open the eyes of the people of Lebanon and destroy these “Muslims” who are taking a country and a beautiful religion hostage. It should be no surprise to you the Iraeli (who aren’t faultless either) reaction this time. So please don’t blame Israel or the USA. That’s much too easy. Blame your government and people (for not pressuring your government) and realize their mistake. That’s much harder to do. Now is the time to destroy them once and for all. God bless the suffering Lebanese and Israeli people.
July 18th, 2006 at 9:52 pm
My heart cries out and my body trembles.
whose fault is it? where is God in all of this?
The Lord is watching and he is grieved. But our hearts are hardened and eyes blinded by the hate.
Satan is our enemy, Lebanon and israel need repentance and the lord will bring you to victory. we have to reach out and pray, but we also have to fast to show our dedication, His hand is never short he is waiting.
let us all stand together, christians, muslims and jews and fast this sunday and the Lord wil honor it and bring peace to our lands. let us all stand together as children of the Living God and.
Do not be afraid but be faithful, for the battle is not yours but the battle is the lord’s(2 Chronicles 20:15)
I Love You All
July 18th, 2006 at 10:06 pm
may allah accept our Martyr, help our people and change the situation in the middle east.
i call upon you gays to pray for our brothers and sisters
July 18th, 2006 at 10:33 pm
Here’s the Reality Check (see Aviv’s comments way below, I agree with them 150%).
I am of Lebanese background and I love Lebanon.
Lebanon is sick with a cancer in its body, that cancer is Hezbollah and likeminded terrorist idiot.
Israel is the surgeon, it will help Lebanon by cutting out its cancer - the treatment will hurt like hell and will bring prolonged suffering, but in the end Lebanon will recover to become healthy again.
God bless Israel and the Lebanese people, and God damn Hozballah and all those other terrorists, including the states of Syria & Iran who feed our cancer.
To all you bleeding heart lefties, wake up to yourselves and don’t get caught up in the bullshit propaganda that the arabs and leftist media spew out: there are terrorists in Lebanon and they need to be removed, for Lebanon’s sake and long-term stability & wellfare. Put yourselves in Israel’s shoes, what would you do if your sovereignty were attacked by terrorists whose stated purpose is to destroy you????
Reality Check - “hello?!!!!”
July 18th, 2006 at 10:48 pm
Roger Said, Do not put the blame solely on Hezballah. The responsibility of these atrocities ly in the hands of many. First of all, the Middle East is a beautiful place, we were all united many many years ago, until Britain and other Western nations came in and split the Middle East, secularised the middle east in an attempt to weaken them. and this they have indeed achieved. Now almost all nations in the middle east have a great deal of animosity towards each other as a result of western intervention. But we must unite by subsiding individual interest, pride and ego, then the Middle east will be a great power and no one will dare attack her. Now, before we can defend ourselves from Israel, the US and the Uk, we must learn to Unite, help each other and love one another. Before we can learn to live in peace with the Israeli’s we must learn to be at peace with ourselves whether we be Muslims, Christians or Druze. We all know the internal secularization of the Middle East and Lebabnon in particular, is what crippled Lebanon in the early 1990’s. Once we unite, we won’t be attacked we can put pressure on the international community to make Israel comply with the agreement it agreed to, to free all Palestinian Women and Children held captive in Israeli prisons. This is what Hezeballah is fighting for, and please understand i do not condone the behaviour of Hezballah, no radical, extremists groups should have a place in this world, as they stive to serve their individual interest. But who else is there to help these innocent people. The UN? an organisation created by the US, pretending to help nations in need, NO it has always been an organisation built to serve US interests, it is an organisation that intervenes when US interests are threatened, and has no power to stop the atrocities when theres no US interest. So God help all these innocent people for all time. God also help the prisoners in Syria and Iran, God help them all. The Lebanese know they are being used as a playground for war and to serve the interest of secular groups, we know this, we aren’t fools. I detest what is happening in this world, i detest the corruption of the Governments, the suffering of the people and the destruction of our homeland and the entire world, my friends we are indeed living in the abyss and at this point in time Peace is what we need. We need to live in peace with the entire world, we need to be in peace with all, including the Israeli’s, not because we have to as they are here to stay, (despite our beliefs on occupationism etc)but because we recognise them as people of the world and we would want to live in peace with them, as they should recognise Palestinians and all Arabs and live in peace with them. God help Lebanon and the world at large. God protect every soul in this universe.
July 18th, 2006 at 10:57 pm
End of Israel is near
July 18th, 2006 at 11:00 pm
An organisation holds 2 soldiers hostage, it’s a terrorist organisation. A state sends 50 missiles into a calm and peaceful city - during the depth of the night, killing 200 women and children and injuring 300 people and sending the country 50 years back after it had struggled for decades to rebuild itself…and the world is silent.
Isreal is the epitome of terrorism but I guess the people who designed the word use it when they wish.
They blame the results.
Hizbullah bombing Isreal? Give me a break you bunch of sooks. What on Earth are you doing in PALESTINE in the first place? You talk like you own the place?? When Hizbullah bombs Germany and Poland and New York or whichever pit you came from, then you can start talking. I would be stupid if I invaded a land and didn’t expect opposition!!
I mean after everything you’ve done to the world, you still ask for sympathy? Geez man. After all this, you still ride that haulocaust until today and deny the hualocaust that you create in Palestine week in and week out.
You guys make me sick!
And look at my country now man! Look at it! IS THIS JUSTIFIED??? JUSTIFIED MY BACK SIDE!
It’s clear that Isreal doesn’t give a rats back side about ANYONE or ANYTHING apart from it’s interests. And then we want to deal with every problem it causes by dealing with the results…
World Sentiment: Shame on you Muslims people around the world for being deeply effected. Why? Why do you resort to violence and extremism? It’s just your people being shelled, bombed, raped, massacred, tortured, locked up, sniped and killed all over the world? Why do you resort to ‘terrorism’?? You should be sitting back and watching it on TV and then having some desert to get your mind off it. What a load of bullocks!
For the capture of 2 soldiers Israel bombed a whole country and for the capture of 1 soldier it shelled Ghazah. Typical double Israeli and American standards…
No solution in this world to you let me tell,
The only solution is to see the U.S. and Israel in hell.
July 18th, 2006 at 11:13 pm
I cannot believe this is happening. It makes me so angry; I am ready to abandon my no-hate attitude.
Yes, I am angry with the Zionist Israel for its destructive, barbaric and immoral action against the innocent people of Lebanon and the infrastructure. However, I am shocked and irked more by the inaction of the “world community” especially those calling themselves the protectors of freedom, democracy and the human rights. They must be blind, deaf and brainless.
When a Palestinian blows himself and causes the death of civilian Israelis, when an Iraqi or an Afghani does the same, they are referred to as Terrorists regardless of their reasons. I do not in any way shape of form support the killing of innocent civilian people. It seems that America, the EU and other world powers do support that and go beyond to give it legitimacy long denied to others.
The killing of children, women and all civilians by the Israelis only goes to show how Holocaust-minded they are. I am in doubt that these people ever think of the suffering of others. Instead, they are focused on political gain and disrespect to anything humane. America and others supporting these actions are taking their place in the line of terrorist nations. I am sad that the governments are not listening to their own people. I know and work with many Westerners who are extremely annoyed by all that is happening and are focused on making a difference sooner or later.
July 18th, 2006 at 11:14 pm
heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy simon..ma tred 3ala saati…bado we7de tred 3alaye…
layek ya saati…
chou jayyik mena ya …..ya ibn el kawadem..3amaro baladkon 3ala 7sab dam el lebnani…rejalak yalli 3am te7ki 3anon .cha3eb mortaza ,bajam,danasso kil elmo7aramet wel hormat..el kouwad taba3,wllah,min weyn ma3on kil halmasi???mich min el balad yalli 7AMAYTOU…welli ,aslan into te3almo tsiri chebh bachar gheir mena.wla,el taxi min matar elcham la hdoud lebnan bi 400 usd???w b tkoul innak chakik,w sa3atouna..w 7assine fina…???
rou7 walla…allah ,ya rab,amine ,yekaoudoun kasena ya rab,,w tabka khaberi 3an boutoulek rejalkon..
wella,leban kan. w ra7 yebka,7arka bi kalbkon..rouzzzzzzzzzzz,,,
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ma 3amartou baladkon 3ala dahrna…..masayto dam el balad…ya ibn el awadem,min wayen sar bi 7sebat el kouwad taba3kon kil hal masari..???/
wel rejal yalli raba7tna jmili inno tarakou ahlon la ye7mouna??????
a7la netkne..ma 7AMIHA(3ala ra2yak)kan 7aramiha…..sarakoutouna,kharabtouna..welle ma kinto tetla3o bel hayen lei?????laik,rou7 allah yekhalik la ahlak,w inchallah ya rab,amine,tdoukou kasena…3am tsa3douna..wellak tozzzzz..el taxi min elmatar lal masna3 sar bi 400 usd…ya chakiki,ya hanoun ,,yalli kalabk 3alayni..rou777777777777777777…..
July 18th, 2006 at 11:24 pm
when i read the post above it made me remember a conversation that went between am israelian and me yesterday.Because we live in the same country of course at work started between us a conversation about what’s happening in Lebanon, so he looked at me and said u started the attack, i told him u started long time ago, occuaption,invasion,massacres,crossing borders,having prisonners,dealing with our internal politics… the he went by saying it is for our own security u took 2 soldiers and killed 5,i laughed and said does 2 soldiers a reason to do a war on a country, destroy it and kill its people,if u are that peacfull does the word negociation tells u anything,or because ur 2 soldiers are human and the others are chicken it doesn’t matter how many dies how many put in prison then he said in a situation like this innocent people die,i said if u r not targetting them, innocents won’t die, he said there is israelians dying too,i said how many,did we destroy ur airport, ur roads,ur industries,ur hospitals, how many children died in israel till now and how many in Lebanon,here i told him plz go and check other than ur media and if u have something of humanity i’m sure u won’t accept this,but because ur media is not showing the hole story that’s why ur seiing me continuing this conversation then he said israel cannot let something like that without replying and we’re doing this for israel and lebanon,i said excuse me who asked a favor who told u to kill us for our good,to destroy our country for our good,and does it really fit this argument because u want to help lebanese ur killing them then he said once this will end it will be better after for u and us so i replied if anything will be left after, and if u think by force u will put ur rules so u know nothing about lebnaese and i went…
July 18th, 2006 at 11:40 pm
This is Israel at work. this is what US President Bush calls ‘Right to Self Defense’. This is Champion of Democracy down on its knees and licking Olmert’s feet. One day, this blood and destruction surely will reach them too . This, it seems, they dont understand!
July 18th, 2006 at 11:48 pm
no coment…
July 18th, 2006 at 11:58 pm
ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC
1. Execution, flogging, stoning and amputation of limbs in public
2. Mass killings of political prisoners
3. Assassination of political dissidents outside of Iran
4. Political serial killings in Iran
5. Construction of many new prisons holding thousands of political prisoners
6. Political oppression
7. Promotion of international and domestic terrorism
8. Violation of human rights in every category
9. Lack of civil liberties
10. Improvement and growth of Iran’s Cemeteries
11. Killing and imprisonment of journalists
12. Violation of women’s rights
13. Censorship and closure of publications
14. Forcing Iranian’s to flee the country resorting in five million refugees throughout the world and “brain drain”.
15. Oppression of religious minorities
16. Filtering the internet
17. Jamming out of country satellite TV and radio stations
18. Stealing Iran’s wealth by the Mullahs and transfer of funds to abroad.
19. Destruction of Iran’s Economy
20. Widespread poverty throughout Iran
21. Severe Inflation
22. Devaluation of Iranian Rial
23. Increase in unemployment
24. Increase in the crime rate
25. Promotion of corruption, prostitution and addiction
26. Housing crisis in Iran
27. Malnutrition, retarded growth and increased rate of depression among Iranian youth
28. Public health crisis in Iran
29. Making Iran an international “embarrassment”
30. 1979 Occupation of the US Embassy in Tehran and holding hostages for 444 days.
31. Conflict with neighboring countries
32. Iran-Iraq War resulting in millions dead, wounded, handicapped and homeless
33. Supporting Sadam Hussein in the US Iraq War
34. Destruction of Iran’s Airline Industry
35. Causing economic sanctions against Iran
36. Producing weapon’s of mass destruction
37. Inability to get Iran’s fair share of natural resources from Caspian Sea
38. Promoting regional conflicts in the Middle East
39. Destruction of Iran’s industries
40. Lack of technological advancements
41. Air and environmental pollution crisis in Iran
42. Destruction of Iran’s agriculture
43. Destructions of fine arts, theater, cinema and music in Iran
44. Promoting Islamic Fundamentalism
45. Closure of Iranian Universities under cultural revolution for three years
46. Attacking University campuses to kill and crack down on students
47. Violating the constitution of the “Islamic Republic”
48. Hiring hooligan’s for beating and crack down on Iranian citizens
49. Improving and selling contraband by regimes elements for additional income
50. Selling Iranian women as sex slaves in the United Arab Emarets
July 19th, 2006 at 12:13 am
Why did not you cry when Hizballah attacked Israel ?
July 19th, 2006 at 12:15 am
syed ali geda is a gadhaa!
man u talking about Islam or Iran?
oNLY Iran is not Islam…thoz points may be /may not b true for Iran..but does’t hold true for iSLAM! go geive blowjob to ur George bush…he will teach u more such points
July 19th, 2006 at 12:22 am
We Shall Overcome One Day,
You don’t know how much the Jewish are afraid and terrified from Arabs & Muslims, they are afraid of people who say “we are Arab” & the ones who say “La Elah Ella Allah”…
They know that we can stop them, because we are not alone, GOD with us..
Get united Arab People, Hold on, at the end VECTORY FOR US..VECTORY FOR US…VECTORY FOR US..as long as we are united, as long as we help each other…
We Shall Over Come One Day…
July 19th, 2006 at 12:25 am
The night when Israel started the systematic annihilation of a whole nation, a new biological transformation started to the people of this nation. For each moderate Lebanese that died 10 new “Fanatics” are born.
Seeing these pictures above have not only have transformed me from 100% supporters to Hizbollah and the Resistance of Lebanon, They have made be proud of them and thank God that gave me the chance to live in their era.
Let the whole world witness that we Lebanese people will rise again with our heads up in the sky.
My beloved people, donate, contribute, fund and go do tourism in your country to show those bastards worldwide that We are like the trees on the Lebanese mountains, we die STANDING UP.
God Bless Nassrallah.
July 19th, 2006 at 1:44 am
Great job on this blog, keep posting these pictures. I am trying my best to post as many pics as possible on mine
July 19th, 2006 at 2:17 am
When are we going to realize that war is a curse? What have these children done wrong? Why must mankind suffer from the greediness of the leaders? Peace for all!
July 19th, 2006 at 3:16 am
To all israelis checking this site
This conflict is hurting both our countries. But on the opposite side of Israel, Lebanon just went out of a raging internal war, the State has a lot of hard time to impose his decisions everywhere. How do you want our gov. to stop what hezbollah planned to do when our army is not capable of organizing itself!
Before you blame anyone, care to see how the people of Lebanon suffers from the lack of strength in the lebanese state and gov. which led to the rise of the Hezbollah. Do you think we wanted Hezbollah to have this kind of influence? If yes, then you are absolutely wrong.
Check out the world factbook of the CIA on cia.gov to see how much we have money to spend on these things (=Zero) and you’ll see that there are other priorities when people in our country starve to death.
By the way, how many israelis were killed so far? 10?
More than 220 people died, and HALF are children, do you realize this or not? Are you conscious about the fact that there are civilians that are targetted in what the IDF and IAF are doing?
If Hezbollah is killing your soliders, IDF is killing our children. In both cases,they are human lives, and in 2006, I really find it unacceptable.
But still, please understand that what you are going through is nothing, NOTHING compared to what we are going through and have been going through since 30 years, with IDF and Syrian Forces (both killed lives so for me they are the same and I put them on the same level in this domain).
Is all this worth killing more than 100 kids?
Of course not, nore is it worth killing adults, and bombing what is worth BILLIONS of dollars of infrastructure.
In the end, israelis, I am also very sorry for you, when you ask if this is a civilised way to live when you don’t even know what your army is doing up here. I hope some day your media will show you what IDF and IAF has done (every media is showing except the israeli medias), as well as we are hoping to see what Hezbollah has done to the citizens of Haifa !!!!!
To the lebanese checking this site : I hope you don’t show your anger in a way that under-values what you write. Your arguments are only strong when they are clearly explained.
Bon courage à tous…
July 19th, 2006 at 3:53 am
Dear Lebanese,
I am in Lebanon, reading your words and crying…
I wish all the Lebanese all around the world will support each other when all the world left us behind!!!
We will not leave our country but it makes me very sad to see all this destruction when we tried so hard to build our cities for decades… and all the innocents who don’t even intervene in politics and only try to survive in this county are being slaughtered just like that in seconds…
May God have mercy on us and give the strength to stay strong and to be able to face everything courageously….
May we all have faith
God Bless Us
Pia
July 19th, 2006 at 4:32 am
la guerre des pauvres
renseignement libre
je suis italien et je n’ai pas mots vraiment devant ce genocidio.Mi horrible j’ai honte mon pays au nom de qu’il appuie les Américains en tout. parce que derrière israele les Américains se cachent
Je suppose que quelques nouvelles sur la barbarie israélienne au Liban soient en train d’arriver. Cependant je voudrais vous donner ici un supplément de nouvelles sur ce qu’il y ne se raconte pas d’habitude:
Les bombardements touchent partout où les civils. Pour il y a maintenant états plusieurs de 120 morts et 235 blessés. Le rapport haut des morts en relation aux blessés essaie la violence des armes utilisées. À Beyrouth, les cratères laissés par les bombardements sont effroyables, les bombes devraient peser près d’une tonne.
Il y a preuves dell’ j’utilise d’armes chimistes.
Les Israéliens veulent créer une non-man’s-land zone de terre brûlée dans le sud du Liban qui en la vide de sa population et en détruisant les villages et les villes pour empêcher chaque retour autre de cette population. Ceci arrive de la manière suivante: au moyen de diffusion verbale, l’armée israélienne informe la population des villes et villages longueur située la frontière, un après l’autre, de laisser leurs maisons d’ici quelques heures, avant que celles-ci cela ne soit pas démoli, si non ils resteront sous les ruines. Au même temps, l’armée israélienne bombarde les voitures qui entrent ou qu’ils sortent de ces villages et il permet le déplacement des piétons seulement.
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July 19th, 2006 at 4:55 am
When are the “big guys” realise that people want peace on this earth? When are they going to stop creating wars “in the name of God”? When are they going to stop killings because of the oil, the land, the big money from gun trade? When will they stop blaming the innocent for their tough luck of being born in the hot spot areas of the world?
They tell us they fight for God, for Democracy, for human rights, etc, etc…
I wonder what God wants blood and fire and misery and pain… When I was born I was baptised as Christian… I know that Christ speaks about eternal love, about helping each other, about peace… Show me a Christian who follows those words and I will stop been ashamed about the religion they gave me…
I have good friends that are Boudists, Muslims, Hebrews, Paganists… All these religions beleive more or less the same things. I want to ask all those “good christians” and “good hebrews” and “good muslims”: If they were born in a different country what their religion would be? The religion we beleive in is definitely a matter of pure luck!!!
As for Democracy, I am sure they do not even understand the meaning of the word. DEMOCRACY is a greek word and comes from the words DEMOS (=community) and KRATO (=hold, rule). So, this word literally means “the people govern”. No one of those “presidents” act or rule in the name of democracy in their own countries. Why the think they can force other nations to follow democracy???
Human rights??? This is a huge tragic irony. They create wars… to stop violence!!! Think about the Israel-Palestine, Turkey-Kourdistan, USA-Arabs, etc. They kill each other for what??? Think about the tests of nuclear bombs in the Indian or Pacific oceans and the people who live in these areas… Think about the exploitation of people all over the world (USA, Europe, China, Africa, Arabian world, South East Asia…)!
Instead of making wars, (so that they can sell the war machines), destroying whole countries, (so that they can afterwords rebuilt them), or propaganding against alternative energy sources, (so that they can control the oil production), they could simply educate people.
But, then, how could they control all those human masses, if people could critisise their words and actions…?
I surely do not want to bring children in this chaos, where few control everybody, where money is the new GOD, where there is no humanity at all…
May all the “Gods” in the world help us. We need all the help they can provide… Unfortunately, all these Gods are bored of listening to us, because we are at least liers, heartless and we care only about ourselves…
In Greece there is a saying: “Opoios skavei to lakko tou allou peftei o idios mesa” (= If you dig a pitfall for somebody else, you and only you are going to fall in it)…
July 19th, 2006 at 6:09 am
STOP Israel bombing NOW!
No excuses. No delays.
ACT
July 19th, 2006 at 8:03 am
If I could tell the world just one thing it would be that we’re all OK. And not to worry ’cause worry is wasteful and useless in times like these. I won’t be made useless, I won’t be idle with despair. I will gather myself around my faith, for light does the darkness most fear.
July 19th, 2006 at 9:04 am
Some of ur posts hurt. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with a seat missing, but it hurts.
July 19th, 2006 at 12:48 pm
our country’s burning and unfortunately m compeled to notice that even in such a situation lebanese r not united.just watch what’s said on this website: long live nasrallah,god must blame nasrallah,the war began cuz of tatati,we’r innocent whereas thoz r nt ….IT S A SHAME!!! we dont care bt the coz of this dramatic event bt on the dead and all those destructions! and even if some lebanese dont like hezbollah ,we must all recognize that israel is the terrorist organisation and that if we do continue on this way,i mean divided cuz of our religion or politic opinion none will rebuild our poor country which was from 75 to today the puppet of israel,america,syria and iran
WE DONT NEED ANY COUNTRY TO HELP US,cuz each of them want our destruction,water,brains and prestige.we’r able to help ourselves just need the big diaspora all over the world to react,to remind that their blood is lebanese.GOD BLESS LEBANON
July 19th, 2006 at 12:57 pm
hallo Welt,
hallo liebe Politikern, auf der Ganzen Welt, danke für die tolle Geschenke….
Aller Achtung Leute dass ihr euch irgendwo in st. pitersburg in aller ruhe treffen könnt, am Tisch essen und sogar Witze machen…
grillt eure teuren Steaks auf Libanon wenn es aber so bitter schmeckt schafft dann vorher die brennden Leichen weg sonnst verderben sie “eure Appetit”
trinkt weiter auf das zerstören der Zivilisation, auf die sterbenden Kinder, und wenn das euch nicht reischt, und nicht wircklich viel amusiert, dann könnt ihr auch den rest der menchheit in die Hölle schicken, durch eine schnelle einfache Rakete, mit “made in Isreal” drauf und “schöne grüße von Teufel”..
eure Freundin Ritta aus dem Leichen Haus..
July 19th, 2006 at 1:10 pm
I justa wanna say for the Israeli´s that are posting on this blog that you people are worng on what you say, kidnapp 2 soldiers and 5 kill´s do not justify the hundreds killed innocents in Lebanon, shut up and see what you are posting, this is not a joke or a game as you always be playing with the hole world, one day your judgement will come, and we will be glad for that. We do not want you dead as you wish we do, but if you do not stop that, be sure that we will do the same
July 19th, 2006 at 1:25 pm
hi there
just have a five minutes look at europe. Look at its past - at all the wars we got here all the bloodshed all the hate. And look at it now. There is hope that an region full of historical hate can find peace after all.
Listen to reason. Don’t listen only to feelings.
I hope one day these pictures above are just decade old pictures in historybooks in a middle east where different religions and different cultures coexist and embrace each other in order to grow and prosper for the good of all human beings that live there.
July 19th, 2006 at 2:26 pm
Israel est le plus grand Etat terroriste du monde.
Il agit comme les Nazis en leur temps : tuer, déporter, massacrer sans distinction de sexe ou d’âge. Il ne pourra jamais vivre en paix aussi longtemps qu’il continuera à semer la haine autour de lui. C’est un Etat barbare totalement étranger à toute culture de paix. Pour lui, agir, c’est recourrir à la loi du plus fort. Seulement les Israéliens devraient ouvrir grand les yeux : ils ne connaîtront malheureusement jamais la paix, et finiront par être vaincus. Eh oui. l’histoire n’a jamais pardonné de tels agissements, et les oprimés ont toujours fini par vaincre. Des exemples ? Les Espagnols au temps de Napoléons, Les Indochinois au temps des Français, les Vietnamiens au temps des Américains, la chute du dictat soviétique, et j’en passe. Dommage, j’aurais persennellement bien aimé pouvoir vous considérer, vous Israéliens, comme des voisins, mais là, avec ce que vous êtes entrain de faire : vous êtes mes ennemis, et j’oeuvrerai à votre destruction. Par tous les moyens. Nous sommes tous Hezbollahis !
July 19th, 2006 at 4:08 pm
Nous sommes tous Libanais d’abord, aujourd’hui plus que jamais.
A.D.
July 19th, 2006 at 4:37 pm
right now every president and prime minister has blood on their hands. 310 dead and it’s only the beginning. everyone. contact your countries leaders. this is not hezbullah they are fighting anymore. it is the lebanese. it is the people of a nation who know what hard work is. they are not a lazy people, they live for enrichment, instead of killing them, we should be looking up to them. 310 people. stop the pain and take action!
July 19th, 2006 at 6:10 pm
if you look at the history, (nearly) all
wars startet on false information and lies,
why it should be this time the truth ?
coz the normal ppl dont believe such big lies,
they believe the mass media…sad but u cant
do anything about it
July 19th, 2006 at 7:20 pm
I am really sad when I see Israelis killing children, women and other civilians in Lebanon. Their governments’s ill justification is that “the Lebanese kidnapped two(!) of our soldiers, that’s why we bomb every village which could in some way be related to that kidnapping”.
In my opinion killing hundreds because two soldiers were kidnapped is an *incredible* ill attitude. My own country - i am German - did the same way in second world war. Many innocent civilians died, especially in our neighbouring country Poland. But more important: many of those who died without being “guilty” (according to the bloody german regime those days) at all, were jewish.
The Germans used to call this “Partisanenbekämpfung”, it was one of the cruelest and unjustified actions of nazi-germany in WW2.
Nearly 70 years later, Israel is doing the same thing to their lebanese neighbours - killing hundreds of civilians in order to find and kill some “Partisanen” (which are nowadays called terrorists) as well as invading a foreign independent country.
Disrespecting borders to neighbouring countries has led to many wars in Europe - and not only in Europe.
Israel government seems to have never seen a history book. Shame on you, Olmert. Shame on you, Bush, too - for supporting this madness.
My feelings are with the people of Lebanon. I desperately hope that this conflict will end soon, and that the Lebanese (as well as the people of Palestine) will live in peace with a Israel that is governed by better people then it is these days.
If the same people keep governing Israel and the United States,
I cannot see the slightest chance for a peaceful middle-east.
July 20th, 2006 at 3:41 am
ISRAEL MUST STOP DESTROING LEBANON AND KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE! THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HIZBOLLAH! ISRAELI ATTACK FORCES OUT OF LEBANON! N O W !!!!!!
July 20th, 2006 at 4:10 am
hey lebanese people
at these times we should be united…it don’t care our believes….our politique life..or our “ZO3AMA2″ideas….we r always the first and last looser in all what they do…so that’s why at this horible time all lebanese people r now supporting HOZB ALLAH even the maronite or the sunite or druze or…. cz this war was begin between israel and hozb allah but now this war is against lebanon and that mean against all lebanese people….from south to north….
they destroyed our infrastrucure….our economique life….but the most important thing..they destoyed our people,our children and babys….they destroyed us…..
we r back 30 years ago…
plz…..plz….plz lebanese people….plz be united…really united for the first time…it’s about lebanon….they r destroying our lovely country…plz plz be united……..
MAY GOD BLESS US…….,.
we just need to be supported from all lebanese all arround the world……
plz lebanese PRAY FOR US…..
July 20th, 2006 at 4:27 am
GOD bless lebanese people……………………
July 20th, 2006 at 4:34 am
lets people see that in 2006 , the new world with new rule , arab no value for them , that the new middle east , shame on that free world ,
seiged beirut
July 20th, 2006 at 4:37 am
GOD help us…………
July 20th, 2006 at 5:23 am
We are not doomed! we have only just begun. RAISE YOUR LEBANESE FLAGS show them who lebanese are. the world has turned their backs on us, lets make them regret it! there are protests ALL OVER THE WORLD condemming these crimes against our people; woman, children men and elderly noone is safe! JOIN THE PROTESTS NO MATTER WHERE U R IF A OUNCE OF LEBANESE BLOOD PUMPS THROUGH UR SYSTEM IT IS UR DUTY CARRY THE LEBANESE FLAG WITH PRIDE AND SHOW THEM WHAT WE ARE MADE OF!
July 20th, 2006 at 5:28 am
Israel the apartheid racist killing state.
Stand united we shall………
July 20th, 2006 at 5:30 am
It’s the rule of the stongest and the reighn of the most powerful, and this ruler has no conscious, no ethics and no consideration for human rights.
I pray for peace, love and I have faith in Jesus to lead us into salvation.
July 20th, 2006 at 5:48 am
for the first time ever it is hizballahs fault. the resistance has lost all meaning. it has become nothin but a proxy of the iranians and syrians. raise ur flag with pride. fight for the true freedom of lebanon, we do not want to return into havin a state within a state as we do now. FREE LEBANON
July 20th, 2006 at 6:43 am
I dont know what to say….. LEBANON IS OUR COUNTRY AND WE WILL LOVE IT AND FIGHT FOR IT TILL DEATH…THATS US
WE ALWAYS PAY THE PRICE FOR OTHER PEOPLE FAULT…ITS JUST NOT FAIR..
WE ARE STRONG AND WE WILL MAKE IT
July 20th, 2006 at 7:02 am
May Allah Have His Curse on Israel, Usa, & all people who Support Such Distruction. May all Lebanese people be at the mercy of Allah the most gracious, the most merciful.
I hope that this give All the Arab Leaders a wakefulness from their long time sleep & enogh is enough.
July 20th, 2006 at 7:10 am
Please stop this killing which is totally against humanity
July 20th, 2006 at 7:39 am
AS TEARS DROP DOWN MY EYES NOW, I ONLY WRITE TO SAY- PLS GOD FORGIVE THE ISRAELI FOR DOING ALL THIS.. SOME PPL R JUST HEARTLESS N ONE DAY THEY WILL WAKE UP TO THEMSLEVES N REALISE WAT THEY DID. IM IN LEB NOW N I SPEND ALL MY TIME WATCHIN THE NEWS N THINKIN N PRAYING FOR ALL LEBANON… ALLAH KBEER N THIS SHOULD STOP NOW!!!!!!!!!!!! COS I THINK THERE IS NOTHING LEFT FOR THEM TO CONTINUE… GOD BLESS LEBANON!!!
July 20th, 2006 at 7:46 am
The civilians, the children. All they did was they lived in Lebanon. They did’nt deserve it. May God save the people of Lebonan.
July 20th, 2006 at 10:25 am
Je ne peux pas croire que tout ça arrive au Liban. Protégez le s’Il vous plait je connais des amies que j’aime la bas et je m’inquiète vraiment pour eux. Prenez-en soin. Personne ne mérite ça et encore moins des jeunes enfants innoncents. Arrêtez la guerre ! Ça n’ammène a rien. Le Liban commençait a peine a se reconstruire. On est un monde de cons
PLEASE GOD BLESS LEBANONN .–
July 20th, 2006 at 10:38 am
People has the right to live … children also ! May God forgive Israel And Hezeballah for all the people they killed and for all the places that they destroy in Lebanon. The world should help us making a difference in Lebanon because we never had the chance to live by freedom ! We always had survived wars! Im lebanese but am not in Lebanon now .. and even tough im not there im still scared for them.. i spend my days watching the news and the kids that are dying! The only thing that keeps straight in me is praying! Hope the world would be with us to finally put a stop to this! May God save and help Lebanon and its people !
A Lebanese Girl Who Wants Peace!
July 20th, 2006 at 10:49 am
When Hizbollah first captured 2 israeli soldiers, I felt it was Israel’s right to get them back(the capture being true or false we can’t know as somebody wrote above). But when Israel started attacking innocent civilians from all around Lebanon, I believe it is to be considered a Terrorist country . I am lebanese, and have never approved of Hizbollah’s politics, but I cannot not think of Israelis now as terrorists. I pray God to end Lebanon’ s suffering, to help those sick, hungry and thirsty people to get access to what they need.
July 20th, 2006 at 11:43 am
i hope to stop this war …..
July 20th, 2006 at 12:34 pm
Qu’attendez vous de ces sionistes qui savent au plus profond d’eux même qu’ils n’arriveront jamais à faire oublier à un palestinien ou à un libanais ou à un syrien ou à jordanien ou à egyptien que les terres qu’ils occupent ne leurs appartienent pas et ne leurs appartiendraient jamais.Ils tentent d’effacer les memoires par la terreur et la destruction, ils n’arriveront point à leur fin.l’etat d’Israel disparaitra un jour si ce n’est par la resistance,c’est par la nature même de la societé israelinne qui s’autodetruira toujours un peu plus chaque jour.
Pour tout vous dire un peu plus sur l’etat d’âme qui les animent , un etudiant juif qui etait avec moi à l’université me disait :”qu’Israel est comme une belle veste qui ne leur appartient pas mais qui a été abondonné par son proprietaire”.Meme les juifs ne croient plus au mythe de la terre promise ,Ils defendent deseperement des terres qui ne leur appartient pas d’ou la violence innouie et demesurée qui accompagent leur frappes , ce sont les frappes de la deseperance.
N’abondonnez jamais Votre resistance ,Musulmans et Chretiens à vous la victoire.
Israel to the hell…………God bless Lebanon ……..Allahou Akbar.
July 20th, 2006 at 1:23 pm
John Bolton the US Ambasador to the UN said “there was no moral equivalence between the civilian casualties from the Israeli raids in Lebanon and those killed in Israel from ‘malicious terrorist acts’ ” http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/39156/
The UN could not even pass a resolution condemning Israel because ,even though everyone in the world unanimoulsy agreed on the resolution, the US vetoed it saying we do not condemn their actions we condone these actions. And added that Israel should continue until the Lebanese stop fighting back.
If you think these view are only mine and have no reality behind them then read the working paper published by John Mearsheimer (R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago) and Stephen Martin Walt (dean of of international affairs at Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government).
Here is the paper:
http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06-011/$File/rwp_06_011_walt.pdf
July 20th, 2006 at 1:27 pm
This is not acceptable, the whole world is watching lebanon becoming another palestine and another Iraq. Soon They will forget about Lebanon.
God Have mercy forthe civilians all lebanese and innocent.
May God have mercy on humanity because there is no more hearts nor conscience.
Let us all pray to be able to help in any way possible.
Lebanon BEFORE NOW AND FOREVERE
July 20th, 2006 at 1:59 pm
For all the angry Lebanese who have written here and their international sympathisers, I wonder, would any of you be sympathetic if Hizbullah, Hamas, Iran and Syria were allowed to act out their stated desire of KILLING all the Jews in Israel? I don’t think so. Do you know that Israel has already released 99% of the Lebanese prisoners that it was holding, years ago? Do you know that the only THREE that are left are vicious murderers of civilians? Do you know tha tone of them bludgeoned an Israeli civilian girl to death with a stone? Is this the type of person that you would even WANT returned to you? If this the type of person that Islam respects? Unlike your attitude toward Israeli casualties, I AM sympathetic to Lebanese civilian casualties. However, Lebanon has let Hizbullah control a third of its terrotory, attack into Israel and build up an OFFENSIVE arsenal of weapons for YEARS. If the Lebanese are unwilling or unable to control their OWN land, they should expect someone else to do it for them. This is a simple fact. I cannot accept the EXCUSE that the Lebanese government or people are too weak to stop Hisbullah. That is nonsense. The whole world would support the. Of course it would be a struggle but isn’t their OWN country worth fighting for? If not, shouldn’t they EXPECT Israel too? COme on now Lebanon, stop making excuses and start controlling your own country. If you do so, Israel will NEVER bother you again. You know this. Gold Meir once said that peace will come to the Middle East when Arabs love their children more than they hate Israelis. This has never been more true. - Avery, from New York
July 20th, 2006 at 3:07 pm
“peace will come to the Middle East when Arabs love their children more than they hate Israelis.”
Avery, the exact same can be said about Israelis, just read up on this very same page to find proof of the hatred that’s being spewed from the Israeli side.
Israelis accuse Arabs of teaching children to hate Israel. That’s not true, a child with an innocent dead mother figures it out on his own.
Consider those photos..
You’ve mixed some facts with opinion, but everything you told us is beside the point. Innocent people are dying because of this lunatic Israeli retaliation.
In each of the last three days, more than 50 Lebanese civilians were killed. Whole families were murdered. You can not dismiss all those lives and say it is worth it. It’s NOT worth it.
Stop murdering a population..
Stop Destroying Lebanon
A.D.
July 20th, 2006 at 3:39 pm
Dear Lebanon,
I was riding a bus downtown today and saw your flag hanging on the side of an apartment building. I remember visiting your city of Beruit over five years ago. After 3 decades your war-torn cities had begun to heal and now overnight your militant neighbors have torn it apart again. I want to say I am sorry… sorry that my tax dollars support a militant military that is killing your civilians, bombing your bridges, your petrol stations, your residential neighboorhoods, and your children and calling it acts of self defense. I am sorry that the prime minister of Canada (where I am residing) is supporting these actions along side my own president (USA). This breaks my heart. I wish my words could be a shield against Israeli missiles and international apathy.
I am sorry. I am so so sorry. This must end now.
Jen Rice
July 20th, 2006 at 3:45 pm
LEBNENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
July 20th, 2006 at 4:04 pm
What can i say, after i saw those pictures, i ran out of words, of sentences. But i’ll always remember that I LOVE LEBANON AND IM LEBANESE TILL I DIE
July 20th, 2006 at 5:11 pm
ISRAEL = NAZI …. how quick they are to forget their past suffering from any ememy more powerfull then them, when they were helpless and could not defend themselves …and they now are doing it to the innocent lebanese people, shame on you shame on you !
July 20th, 2006 at 5:30 pm
Anti Israel, Anti Hezbollah, Anti Lebanese, Anti Muslim, Anti Christian, Anti American.. Why don’t you all shut your mouths and let Lebanon rest in peace?! Her last breath was taken 10 days ago and you all still have the courage to insult each other. Perhaps we all are the very reason we gave Israel the funeral rights to our motherland. See you all in the after life. Lebanon, this world was never meant for one as beautiful as you..
July 20th, 2006 at 6:50 pm
All i will say is that i’m suffering too knowing that i am unable to effectively protect those innocent people from Libnan who are murdered by the same country that was once struggling to exist before its Nazi and other oppressors, that country is Israel. I have to say that i may be one of the few people who have muslim, christian and jewish bloodlines altogether in my veins but i cannot accepted to see my brothers being killed by human stupidity, that of Olmert and his fascist govt! i’m not saying the rest are saints but having witnessed how the nazi holocaust affected my family, i would have hoped that israelis ( especially those supporting the attacks on Lebanon and Palestine and its innocents people) knew better!! i am muslim but i condemn all unjust exactions against anyone in the world no matter what! i already know that God will show his martyrs all comfort and relief in the afterlife! I think it’s a waste of time to wait for World Leaders to react and stop this Lebanese GENOCIDE. The criminals play around with our lives and they will pay for the MURDERS they have committed before God’s people incha Allah on The Last Day! Allah never forgets to have mercy but He is also very quick in giving retribution and strong punishment to those who deserve it! Love to all those who still believe in Peace and may Allah bless all those of you who suffer because of human failure!
July 20th, 2006 at 7:05 pm
Stop the bombing on Lebanon!!!
this is not the answer!!!!
May the world stand up and take action - these people have not hurt anyone - killing innocent children and people is not the answer!!!!!
July 20th, 2006 at 8:36 pm
If Hizbullah and Israelies wants to kill each other, Fine.
I have no problem with that. But both of you for GOD sakes leave the Innocent civilians alone on both sides.
July 20th, 2006 at 8:51 pm
Je ne suis pas libanais, ni meme israelien,
Je ne suis pas juif, ni meme musulman,
Mais je ressent au fond de moi cet immense chagrin
de voir sombrer le pays du cedre dans le sang.
Qu’on fais les libanais pour meriter ces morts?
Qu’on fais ces enfants pour meriter ce sort?
Est ce que la vie de deux soldats vaut plus que celle d’un pays?
nous sommes des temoins desabuses
ils sont des victimes de leur propres libertes.
Honte a celui qui dit defendre la paix mais hote la vie.
Et dans un silence mondial assourdissant
le Liban continue de pleurer la mort de ses enfants.
Paix au Liban
Paix au moyen orient
A tous les libanais, que je respecte profondement pour ce qu’ils m’ont personnellement appris, mes pensees vont vers vous.
A tous les israeliens, comment pouvez vous dormir tranquillement et savoir que votre armee tue sans distinction. Comment pouvez vous faire subir ca a des innocents au nom de votre securite et donc de votre religion? il n’est pas necessaire d’etre un grand stratege militaire pour comprendre que ces raids n’afflaibliront pas le Hezbolah, ne libereront pas vos soldats, ne rendra pas la terre de palestine plus sure et plus belle pour vos enfants. Votre chemin est celui de l’imperialisme et de l’autodestruction.
July 20th, 2006 at 9:29 pm
May Allah bring down all the cruelties to an end. Shame on you Israel.
July 20th, 2006 at 9:50 pm
i just don’t understand the minds of some people in this world…what is the point of killing innocent people…destroying cities, communities, families, friends…just enviroment…whats the purpose…what does it solve…all it does is bring this world that much farther apart…puts more people in depression and anger…confuses a lot of why are we here on earth…there is no peace and there is no justice…no matter where you look at…its in the us pledge of allegiance, “…with justice for all…”, who was free when this was written…i don’t know much about the different parts of the world, people and life of the world…but i do know that we are all connected in some way…we all have the same functioning systems that we were born with…no one man or woman is better than than the other…no one can be God(whoever your belief maybe)…all we can be is human…just try to live our lives the way we can…but society, corrupted governments, disloyal people etc. just make it so hard…i can’t believe that this has happened to and whats sad is that whoknows the future…whoknows what other part of the world might feel this…we don’t know until its time…i just hope that life can be life again…people can be people again…when can we just breathe again…God bless the Lebanese people and God bless the world—-DaViD from San Diego, CA (DaYgO what we call it)
July 20th, 2006 at 11:12 pm
Meet the Anti Christ…Anti love…Anti peace…. ISRAEL!!
THEY WILL CONTINUE TO KILL! CRISTIANITY IS A THORN IN THERE SIDE.ISRAEL CANNOT CALL US TERRORISTS, SO THEY HIDE BEHIND OUR MUSLIM BROTHERS&SISTERS AND TRY TO ONCE AGAIN KILL OF ANY REMAINS OF CHRIST, AS THEY TRIED 2000 YEARS AGO!
HEZB ALLAH IS AN EXCUSE TO INFLICT PAIN AND DISTRUCTION ON OUR BEAUTIFUL LEBANON.
THEY ARE TRYING TO EXPAND THERE BORDERS SO THEY CAN BRING MORE ISRAELIES FROM AROUND THE WORLD AND SETTLE ON OUR LAND!! MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT THIS!!! PEACE IS NOT AN OPTION TO ISRAEL AS LONG AS THE MASTER PLAN IS TO MAKE A BIGGER ISRAEL!!!
TO ALL WHO DONT REALISE,THIS PLEASE DO!
July 21st, 2006 at 12:01 am
when military men or women die in a time of war their “casualties of war” when innocent men women and children are targeted by sophisticated artilary then its an act of heinous murderers!!!!!! isreal is americas’ puppet those opposing hisballah in any shape or form are the entertained audience that have nothing in their lives to direct them to sanity..all of you have blood on ur hands!! may all the innocent souls wasted as a result of your”war against terror” haunt you till ur time of eternal rest.!!
who’s standing up against the terror inflicted upon Gaza,and now lebanon?….Sayid Hassan and his supporters thats who, the rest are cowards who think they have loads to gain by agreeing with the american government (the mother of all savages) its all about the after life not this greedy one ..Allah yahmee al maqawama and those who arent afraid to stand up for whats right..the rest of you will get yours eventually.. i type this out of the comfort of my chair away from the chaos in lebanon..but believe you me i feel and pray for my home land my minds with them always. been there and saw first hand isreals’ agression, in 1996.. Fallen soldiers r one thing, targeted innocent civilians.???? u tell me
July 21st, 2006 at 3:17 am
The principles of divide and conquer have never found such fertile ground. Hezbollah fight for their fatherlands… the Israeli claim the same, but unfortunately it’s the same land they covet. Who has made these two build up all this hatred against each other? Who wins if there is constant warfare in the part of the world?
The country of cedars, good food and nice people, the country of Chalil Gibran does not deserve to perish in the middle of this fight. These are real people getting killed, not just images in the evening news.
This is the time for the international community to take a stand and protect the Lebanese from the US plans for the region. They want Syria. Lebanon is in the way. Hezbollah is just the cause.
Isn’t this the time for the usually so talkative Mr Anan to take action?
July 21st, 2006 at 4:53 am
After seeing this photos I will pray to God to help you every day. It doesn’t matter which God will all live under the same sky anyway. People are out of control God can help them think of what they are doing, how much pain they are causing. There is no way I can exept to see little children being hurt and burned, there is no sense, they haven’t even had a chance to live, they can’t be faulty. My though is with Libanon, Greece is thinking of you. God help you
July 21st, 2006 at 5:01 am
may the god and the angels of the universe have compassion on lebanon and put this to an end… FOREVER
July 21st, 2006 at 5:15 am
i would jus like to pass on my upmost condolences to all LEBONESE (muslim and christian) suffering during this horrendous crime of inhumane murder by the israelis….jews are the first to cry hard done by hitler and the nazis in the past yet now they murder innocent babys and familys.. i visited lebanon 2 yrs ago and had a magnificent time….. unfortunately my return there now looks grave.. whilst there i saw lebanon as a nation of pride.. keep it up…..
July 21st, 2006 at 6:04 am
In light of the foregoing, I feel that words are useless or have lost their meaning….
GOD bless Lebanon
July 21st, 2006 at 6:41 am
Il n’y a malheureusement pas de mots pour qualifier la peine et la souffrance du peuple libanais………
J’ai telllement honte pour la condition humaine capable de laisser faire ces horreures.
Vous êtes bien plus forts que ça, vous vous êtes déjà relevés d’autres catastrophes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Que DIEU garde votre peuple
July 21st, 2006 at 7:18 am
O governo israelense tem mostrado seu verdadeiro valor.
Crianças, idosos, mulheres, homens, libaneses e até estrangeiros estão sendo destruídos como coisas sem vida e sem valor.
Por meio desses ataques, o poder israelense está mostrando ao mundo quem são os verdadeiros terroristas.
Terroristas não são aqueles que matam sem causa, terroristas são aqueles que matam por uma causa vil e maléfica, terroristas são aqueles que destroem e matam para derrubar um país em pleno desenvolvimento, terroristas são aqueles que acabam, de forma cruel, com famílias, vidas, e, acima de tudo, com o sonho de progresso e paz entre os povos.
Omar Saleh.
São Paulo - Brasil
July 21st, 2006 at 7:37 am
Je passe encore une fois lire ce que les autres pensent a dire a propos de cette guerre qui a mon avis ne servira que des profits personels …
Les israeliens pleurent leurs enfants, les libanais sont dechires une nouvelle fois !! Les arabes divergent dans leurs opinions, les europeens veulent aider a soigner les blesses et nourir ceux ki peuvent mourir de faim .
Les etats unis continue son jeu d echec !!!
Et nos enfants dans tout cela ???
Dieu est le seul qui uni toutes sortes de religions et de croyance !
chacun crie son Dieu ? Mais a voir qui y en a plusieurs alors ? NON y a un seul Dieu et il est pour nous tous !!
Arretez vos massacres TOUS vous qui etes a l abri alors que les innocents payent pour vous !!!
La conscience est perdue dans cet univers …………. reveillez vous !
Stop Stop Stop
NON a toutes les guerres
NON a cette guerre dechirante
July 21st, 2006 at 8:39 am
“Escuta Israel, o Senhor é Noso Deus, Úno é o Senhor”
Falo pela indignação observada pelo mundo aos ataques do Governo Israelita aos Libaneses.
Exemplo explícito do mais puro terrorismo, amostra da evolução fálida da mais exacerbada desgraça no coração dos seres.
Ô Deus, esse é o ínicio do apocalipse..
Alladon Nóbrea
São Paulo - Brasil
July 21st, 2006 at 9:13 am
Ya lubnan,
I pray for you every night. You are a strong nation who will show the world that Evil cannot defeat the Will of the Innocent..
Ya lubnan,
They make destroy our buildings and infrastructure but you will never destroy our dignity and our Unity.
God Bless Lebanon..
July 21st, 2006 at 9:30 am
alahu egber
the time will come ,and the time will destroy them all ,Allah is one and only ,
they will reqognize that veryy soon …….pease brothers i hope iran is going to stop this strikes by heading israel with a nuklear bomb ,or two :)
July 21st, 2006 at 10:18 am
I get angry when I watch on TV about tourists who finally made it to go home..or how dreadful an experience this was..
What about the ones who remain behind and have to fear everyday of others who get pleasure eliminating them..?? what about mummies losing their children and family.. enough.. I am wondering why do we get shocked watching kids with guns..they have nothing left..they ‘ve seen enough.. they expect nothing.. i hope someone will save us all one day..
July 21st, 2006 at 10:21 am
the leaders of the democratic countries in the world only have the amount of power we, the people, give them. they are supposed to represent us, you and me, let them know that.
everyone have a voice and the power to make a difference, use it!!
it breaks my heart that those men (wonder what a world lead by women would look like?) who have the most power and the possibilty to speak up and to stop this madness seem to have lost their voice or maybe its their mind they have lost…..
July 21st, 2006 at 11:21 am
que dire seulement que Dieu puisse sauvegarder le liban et que Dieu protege hizbollah et sayed hassan nasrollah je suis du sud liban tout les jours les israeliens bombardent et on sait c´est quoi les tirs je suis contre de ceux qui disent le tourisme lß economie du pays est detruit pouquoi pas la liberte vaut du sang c´est le prix que nous devons payer vou disez toujours pourquoi hizbollah a-t-il fait cela regarder plutot les isrealiens pourquoi ils bombardent les civils et hizbollah bambardent seulement les militaires ouvrez les yeux et regardez les actes ca fait longtemps que les juifs preparent pour cet invasions pour detruire hizbollah mais non nous sommes forts et Dieu et avc nous……
July 21st, 2006 at 11:59 am
je soutiens le message de jouhaina said, les gens qui vivent au sud du liban savent tres bien que de temps en temps les israeliens bombardent et tuent continuellement les gens de chez nous sans aucune excuse. Que Dieu protege tous les libanais et elmoquawama et un jour je vous assure que la veritee sortira et le monde osera de dire tres fort que israel est un monstre et il faut le detruire. Que le monde entier ouvre les yeux et une fois dans le vie qui analyse les donnees et qui regardent les photos des masacres causees par les israeliens et qu’ils se demandent ces enfants peuvent etre leurs. J’envoie a tout le peuple du monde juger avec vos yeux et soutener nous pour povoir s’en sortir. il faut pas se taire, Dieu ne l’accepte pas……………….
July 21st, 2006 at 1:08 pm
hello everyone,
FIRST OF ALL I JUST WANNA SAY I’M A LEBANESE GIRL AND LOVE LEBANON SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH.WHY?WHY?WHY THEY KILLED INNOCENT PEOPLE?
WE ALL WANT SAMIR KANTAR TO COME BACK BUT WE WANT THE PRISONNERS IN SYRIAAAAA!!!
WHY U HUZBULLA UR NOT THINKING ABT THEM,WHERE IS THE LOGIC?WE CAN EXPLAIN ALL THAT IN 1 THING:UR JUST A CRIMINAL PERSON AND WHAT U WANT IS TO DESTROY LEBANON AND KEEP UR COUNTRY SYRIA AND IRAN SAFE.
AND THE LEBANESE PEOPLE HAVE TO BE ALWAYS THE GAME IN UR HAND,BY UR HAND U KILLED MORE THAN 200 PERSON AND BABIESSSSSSSSSSSSS.
WE ALL HATE U!AND WE DONT WANT ISRAEL TOO!WE WANT LEBANON TO BE SAFE AND I DONT WANT TO SEE ANYONE HURT(MUSLEM OR CHRISTIAN)COZ U R ALL THE SAME,LEBANESE.
FINALLY FOR U THE ONE WHO SAID WE WANT TO SEE WHAT SAMIR GEAGEA CAN DO,WAIT AND U WILL SEE IF U DIDNT SEE TILL NOW, JUST THINK ABT 11 YEARS IN PRISON.
ANYWAY IT’S NOT TIME TO TALK ABT THAT.
NOW WE HAVE TO BE UNITED AND AFTER THE WAR WE WIL SEEEEEEEE.
GOD BLESS ALL THE LEBANESE INNOCENT PEOPLE!!
July 21st, 2006 at 2:41 pm
After so so many years of pain and suffering and all the blood shed this is what the israelis think is the best solution this is not an act of self defence this is an act of brutality an act of murders and an act of war war is the one thing that destroys us humans and war comes from power.. I live in a safe city safe country but all my relatives live in the middleeast and i cry every night because nobody can help them this is outragous what they are doing.. after all the torture and pain and losses the jews went thru this is what they have learned ? kill innocent small children that dont even know why there is a war i say its time to take a stand not for war not for a country but for mankind for the love of god for the world he gave to us to live in wich we are destroying!
May god be with all people in this world the ones that dont have a choice and R.I.P all that got caught in the middle of this childish drama …
July 21st, 2006 at 3:31 pm
every day israel destroys & kills innocent lebanese & do looot of eco damages. lebanon passed in very difficult years ( israel war, civile war..)& i think it needs some peaceful days 2 grow up again!
im not talking 2 israeli ppl only, im talking 2 syria & iran 2!!!!!!
Best wishes for lebanon & its innocent ppl…..
July 21st, 2006 at 4:33 pm
Are You all nuts? Fracking fundamentalists, terrorists took over by insane idea of sacred war, killing themselves in buses full of women and children are better? Maybe it’s minority, but why majority don’t do anything in all those countries? Why don’t people in Lebanon, in Syria, in Egypt, Iran etc. stop terrorists, why don’t they do anything? You all should start learning history. It’s fault of european nations, that Israel is placed where it is. But for islam fundamentalists it’s jewish fault. I guess it doesn’t really matter for them. They just love to wear bombs and blow themselves with minimum of 20 innocent giaur lifes. And if you are so brilliant - tell me how to stop those bastards. Israel must fight. Imagine contry of Muslims surrounded by Christian countries, or country of black people surrounded by white people countries. And those neighbours are tolerating groups of terrorists punching, wounding this different country, because it’s different, because it’s rich, because it can strike back. I’ll ask again - are you all nuts????
July 21st, 2006 at 4:57 pm
Adam, Israeli from Melbourne
This not an Israeli Lebanon issue, its is a US Iranian issue.
The Iranians are funding Hezbollah and using your land as a battle field.
What is happening in your country is war and like all wars there are victims, usually the innocent are caught in the middle, this is never fair.
The Lebanese government has allowed for Hezbollah to roam free within its borders for far to long, allowing them access to the Israeli Northern border, why are should Israeli families live in fear?
We need to live in peace and we will do whatever it takes to do so, you need to hold your government accountable.
The fact that Israel can survive surrounded by counrties that would prefere its destruction, shows that G-D is there, we have never been crushed as a people, we have only grown and influenced the world.
We should all pray for peace I know that I want to see my children grow, and I am sure that you also want the same.
Terrorism must cease.
July 21st, 2006 at 5:01 pm
Estoy asombrado por las imágenes. Espero que vuestro sufrimiento pare y también la destrucción de su país. No entiendo esta guerra, pero si el dolor de la misma, no puedo hacer nada, sólo querer la paz, es poco….
Hermanos, hermanos, que puedo hacer?
July 21st, 2006 at 5:06 pm
POR FAVOR! Vamos parar com as agressões. Precisamos de Paz! As diferenças de idéias, raças e religiões só nos enriquecem. Usemos esses milhões de dólares gastos na destruição, para a construção de um mundo melhor.
July 21st, 2006 at 5:31 pm
Amado PADRE CREADOR ( Coloque usted el nombre de su preferencia)
Perdona a tus hijos sordos que no escuchan Tu Voz.
Perdona a tus hijos ciegos incapaces de ver Tu Luz.
Perdona a tus hijos torpes que aun no han logrado comprender que TODOS somos Tu divina creacion y que tenemos un mismo origen, no importa si nos declaramos cristianos, musulmanes o judios.
Da igual ! SOMOS UNA SOLA RAZA: LA HUMANA!!!
PAREN LA GUERRA, QUEREMOS PAZ EN EL MUNDO!
July 21st, 2006 at 7:24 pm
I have always considered my self to be accepting of everyone’s faith and cultural, always looked down upon racism and always thought that racism is the result of little education and extreme ignorance. Now as I watch, listen and read about everything that the Lebanese citizens are going through, losing their children, parents, friends and neighbours, watching their lives fall apart before their very eyes, I can’t help but feel this overwhelming feeling of hatred towards the Israelis… may each and everyone one of you that supports and accepts this act of violence remember that there is and never will be an excuse for these inhumanity… May Allah bless and protect the people that have been spared and bless the souls of the deceased.
July 21st, 2006 at 7:34 pm
I’m not sad about those who died cuz they are in Paradise now inshaa’llah but i’m angry that the arab nations only watching as if it is a hollywood Film.I want that all the People with all their different religios got proud,security and helping eachother cuz the life is hard enough wa hasbiyallah wa na3mah el wakil and God shall damm those people who make destruction weapons.
July 21st, 2006 at 8:09 pm
with everything that is going on in lebanon i pray for the lebanese people.
what i do not understand is what palestine has to do with all of this. Is nsrallah fighting for the palistinians? why dont u go to palestine and fight for the palestinians and leave lebanon and the lebanese people in peace. Lets rid lebanon of the cancer in lebanon, that being hezeb allah. God forgive you israel.
July 21st, 2006 at 9:34 pm
I really do not have anyone in lebanon…..but still i pray to god…Let the peace land fast, both in ISRAEL and LEBANON….. Let the rain come down and wash away all yore tears…Let god give you strength to overcome this situation.
Love you all
-a good indian
July 21st, 2006 at 9:44 pm
I can’t find the proper words to express my feelings…
whaT CAN I SAY?
that Lebanon is gone… that Lebanon is still a play ground and its teams are from west and from the middle east….
That hezbollah are acting as Bin Laden, that the followers of hizbollah have been manipulated religiously to wipe out israel from the map ALONE!
Why all israel is acting like they are God why hizbollah is fighting on behalf of all Lebanese,
where is our goverment!!!!!
I guess it is the end of story….
it is better we leave Lebanon ,
the land beauty to the Beasts.
OR, we give up our religious believe and Lebanon will be in french” Laique”, let us keep our religion inside of us in private, we are 18 relious sectors so if we keep on with our religious interest what ever it WAS, we will never be united AS lebanes.
July 21st, 2006 at 10:00 pm
je ne suis pas libanaise,mais j’espere de tout coeur ke dieu aidera le liban a surmonter cette epreuve!! alors je me demande comemnt des humains peuvent commettre des gestes pareilles c’est juste impensable!
July 21st, 2006 at 11:33 pm
الله ينصركم على اليهود
اللهم اميـــــــــن
July 22nd, 2006 at 2:08 am
Hi Again, how about this, there seems to be a pattern…. Hizballah fights with YOU, Syria fiights with YOU, Palestine fights with YOU, Iran well sounds like YOU want to fight with YOU????? Lebanon broken by YOU…. ( yet we will survive) And all this from the land we gave to YOU!
Long live Lebanon
Long live Lebanon
Long live Lebanon..
July 22nd, 2006 at 2:13 am
We gave the world, taboulee, hommos and belly dancing some what.. We get back Israeli Bombs!! Sounds fair? Maybe not? Long live may beautiful Lebanon.
July 22nd, 2006 at 6:22 am
No “11 de setembro”, enquanto aquela tragédia acontecia nos E.U.A., minha família sofria por causa dos libaneses da mesma forma o mesmo tipo de terrorismo por parte de alguns libaneses.Precisei ver essas fotos para entender que o amor que nutri durante muitos anos pelos libaneses não podia acabar assim, por causa do preconceito de outros libaneses, que estavam dispostos a tudo, a massacrar minha família, matar seus membros (como ameaçado por eles) mesmo estando nós aqui dentro de nosso próprio país. Preciso, agora externar que: Sinto muito Líbano ! Antes de sermos brasileiros, libaneses somos seres humanos e ninguém merece isso! Ninguém merece sofrer o terror porque “alguém” sente preconceito que na minha opinião é o mecanismo maior dessa máquina horrenda que cada dia cresce mais, e mais… ok, estou aqui. Quieto. A tua disposição para o que precisarem. A favor de ninguém e contra ninguém, apenas aa disposição pro que precisarem. E, se tive culpa me desculpem pelo passado.
July 22nd, 2006 at 7:08 am
fico pensando por que tanto odio!por que povos se destruim uns aos outros por nada,por preconceitos que vão passando de geração a geração,esquecem que nesses paises tambemtem crianças e gente boa,digo não ao terrorismo,mais acho que num precisa matar nenhum inocente pra conseguir banir o terrorismo acho que os governantes estão muito preocupados com o proprio ego do que com seu povo.que deus proteja todos nós e que olhe pra esse povo sofrido.
July 22nd, 2006 at 8:07 am
Israel’s contribution to the arts and sciences and the acheivements of this small country in a relatively short period of time exemplify what they can do for mankind when given the chance to live in peace within secure borders.
In the same period of time what have the arab countries in general and Hezbollah and Hamas in particular, contributed to mankind??? Suicide bombings and terrorist attacks are the only things that come to mind, just like their predecessors, the PLO and the PFLP.
What monetary and material aid did the rich arab nations give to Indonesia (a fellow muslim country) 18 months ago when the tragic Tsnumai hit? Bugger all compared to all the aid given by the Western infidels.
But let’s not miss out on an opportunity for another bout of good old fashioned anti-semitism in the guise of bashing Israel when the chance arises - no, let’s not let the facts get in the way of another chance to condemn Israel for doing nothing more than trying to protect herself from terrorism.
Hezbollah and Hamas want nothing less than the destruction of Israel - it is their declared aim and the only thing on their agenda.
If so the so called civilised world chooses to ignore these facts and if Israel is to continue to be subjugated to attacks by these bodies, then it is up to Israel to protect itself and do what the rest of the world does not have the balls to do - take on and defeat once and for all these terrorist organisations.
July 22nd, 2006 at 10:34 am
Why are you doing this to lebanon? What did Lebanon do? They want peace! all the kids are dying day by day. PLEASE STOP KILLING LEBANON! all the kids are dead why are you torchering the adults and kids?babies are dying TOO!!!!!please the killing must stop. you are killing all the innocent people . please stop i want lebanon just like how it was not destroyed. people are suufering everysingle day, they have no food no drinks, they have nothing.
July 22nd, 2006 at 10:49 am
This is soo sad how can people be so evil how can they be so desensitized that they are able to take another human life in such a brutal way??
May ALlah swt have mercy on the souls of those that have died and those that are caught up in this horrific war and others like it….
Please let us all unite and get active within our countries, communities and neighbourhoods to stop evil actions such as these….
Individually we are limited in our abilities but collectively we can put a stop to this war and others like it!!!!!!!
Regardless of nationality, race or religion we are all blood and bones …..
Have MERCY and show MERCY!!!!!!!!
Lets unite and get active!
July 22nd, 2006 at 11:16 am
i’m from morocco & all morocan peple with you leban god belss you all….
July 22nd, 2006 at 12:07 pm
I lament,as it can the world to allow and to still tolerate that destruction and murders,howmany children and innocent people empty space to die,because the world was sensitized with the suffering of the Jews in 1945 and today they allow that the Jews practice those deaths.that cruel world.
July 22nd, 2006 at 2:01 pm
TO SIONISTS : WE WILL NEVER NEVER FORGET !!! DAY WILL COME… YOU REACHED THE POINT OF NO RETURN !
July 22nd, 2006 at 3:04 pm
Me fui del Libano por mis niñas me encuentro en un pais donde no puedo separarme de las noticias con una sensacion de impotencia que me mata han matado a dos amigos de zraeriye no he podido mas que llamar por telefono para saber quien murio y me entere ali moustafa mroueh y la hija de un vecino justo al lado de casa. Estoy Aqui de entrevista y entrevista diciendo y contando lo que sufre mi pueblo de la forma que tuvimos que escapar, me agobia, ¿porque me agobia? sencillamente porque me siento impotente a la hora de pensar en mi pueblo que no puedo hacer nada por el mientras los perros de los sionisttas sueltan sueltan sus aviones como pesadillas que se han convertido para los oidos de los niños que no saben en que momento les tocara el turno de llorar, gritar, tiritar de miedo, gritar mama! o papa! o sencillammente no decir nada quedarse muditos para el resto de los dias, que angustia dios donde coño estan los escrupulos, dios en que se ha convertido la genetica humana, dios en que se esta transformando, la gente no hago mas que llorar, juro por dios que esto que esta pasando no acabara sin que el culpable pague por lo que esta haciendo, que no se crea que se salvara de la historia un dia por el otro por mi, lo siento me han despertado el odio que no tenia ni conocia, ahora se odiar perdoname dios, si existes me estoy alejando de ti para convertirme en un ogro que no parara hasta ver vencida mi venganza contra la jente que no conoce la palabra escrupulos. Lavida nos la dan por derecho, lamuerte viene sola.
Ali Charafeddine españa el 22-7-2006
July 22nd, 2006 at 4:08 pm
WHoever believes in Jesus is praying for you. I have asked for Masses to be celebrated for the Lebanese and Palestinians.
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July 22nd, 2006 at 4:37 pm
My hope is that “we” Americans will one day realize that Arabs are people; Israelis are people and that the blood that drips will one day be the blood that unites the people in the Middle East. Moreover, my hope is that America will live up to its responsibility and be a just leader of the free world and talk to “everyone,” embrace “everyone” and seek diplomatic solutions that reflect the interest of ALL the people of the Middle East and not just Israel.
July 22nd, 2006 at 4:52 pm
Que Dieu préserve les libanais des sauvages israéliens. La vie est trop courte, ils auront un bon jugement et ceux qu’ils les soutiennent aussi. Prions pour la victoire des libanais et de Nasra allah.
Montréal 22/07/2006
July 22nd, 2006 at 5:35 pm
Funny how I don’t recall seeing any of these comments condemning the deaths of innocent civilians when Hamas suicide bombers and Hezbollah terrorists blow up buses carrying school kids in Jerusalem and mothers with children in supermarkets in Netanya. Eh ????
Let’s face it, the extremist groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas want to wipe Israel of the face of the map and as long as the so called moderate arab states such as Lebanon allow such groups to exist and grow within their borders and allow the supply of weapons from Sryia and Iran to these groups these moderate arab countries will leave themselves open to situations as we have today.
Lebanon had six years to disarm Hezbollah and did nothing about it. On the contrary, the Lebanese government sat back and watched as Hezbollah grew in strength and arm itself knowing full well what Hezbollah was up to and was planning to do.
But as I have said before, let’s not let the facts get in the way of yet another excuse to condemn Israel for doing nothing more than what any other country in the world would do in the face of terrorism and unprovoked attacks - DEFEND HERSELF - and for those who think Israel will sit back and accept terrorism, you really need a reality check.
July 22nd, 2006 at 6:36 pm
It seems to me that its you who needs a reality check… Israel isnt defending herself its is doing exactly what hitler did to them in the second world war committing genocide at the expense of civilians perhaps you need to read up on a little history then maybe you just might get out of your little cotton wrapped world and see that what is occurring presently is not DEFENCE BUT OFFENCE .One mans terrosit is anothers freedom fighter solutions have been sought none have been given hence they fight for the freedom of their land. For your information no one supports this except UK USA and Israel herself. That think speaks for it self dont you?
July 22nd, 2006 at 9:10 pm
Anyone who uses a comparison between Israel and Hitler really is only showing their true antisemitic colours - but at least thank you Zee for letting me and others know from where you are coming from. And by the way, I majored in History with a specialization in Nazism and the Second World War, so I daresay I know just a little about history and the role of Hitler and the Nazi party when it comes to genocide and mass murder, not unlike the acts of your good friend Saddam Hussein in his dealing with the Kurds.
And Jay you make a good comment “..hasbollah needs to piss off out of our country…” and the Lebanese people need to realise this and help get rid of them. If they are allowed to stay they will turn Lebanon from the free, fun loving counrty it was into another radical Islamic state with know freedoms for its citizens. Check who is supporting Hezbollah and the way their populations are allowed to live.
But don’t let the facts get in the way of a good anti-Israel beat up.
July 22nd, 2006 at 9:58 pm
Dani, sorry to say it but what Israel has been doing for the past 40 years is trying to rid the Middle East of Arabs. They are ZIONIST. Zionism stands for the expansion of Israel at any cost. Israel forced arabs into make-shift ghettos. They have taken all rights of a human from the Palestinians and they wish to start a civil war in Lebanon. Yes, the Arab states have forms of extremism, but so does Israel, the USA and Canada. Every country has extremists, but the difference is the Extremism that is born in the Arabic countries is due to war and poverty which has been caused by the USA and Israel.
Israel is just as bad as Nazi Germany, if not worse. Before there was ever an Israel there was a Palestine, a Lebanon, a Syria and an Iran.
As the war goes on in Lebanon you are destroying the roots of civilization. You are destroying where the human race has come from. You are destroying our general human history. So instead of defending your Israel with your “knowledge” of history, maybe you should dig a little deeper.
Long Live a Free and Beautiful Lebanon and Palestine!
July 22nd, 2006 at 11:56 pm
Well, well well dani…self defence you call it! Is this what it is in Palestine? Self defence against the children throwing rocks at your tanks in the streets.
Is that what it was in Beirut in 1982? Is this what your calling it now? May God forgive you, because the children will not. This is the land we gave you to live in after you were prosecuted. But I guess you forgot? Self defence please…
The 3year and 4year old children loosing there Mothers to iraeli Bombs may disagree with your so called terrorism! When they grow older I wonder what or how they see Israel then. Let alone what they have already have etched in ther minds with there mothers blood that you have blown to pieces! Self defence PLEASE!!! Long line Lebanon!
July 22nd, 2006 at 11:58 pm
Zee - your comment “…For your information no one supports this except UK USA and Israel herself. That think speaks for it self dont you? …”
Now why do you think that? Wouldn’t have anything to do with the growing moslem populations in many of these countries and the fear of a political backlash at the polls should these European countries actually have the guts to take a stand and condemn terrorism perpetrated by islamic fundamentalist groups funded, supported and supplied with weapons from like minded islamic fundamentalist states such as Iran.
Nuh, couldn’t have anything to do with this or the concern of local suicide bombings on trains or in a supermarket in retaliation for a Germany or France actually taking a real stand against terrorism. Spain after 9/11 took a stand against terrorism, then suffered the Madrid train bombings and then took an about turn in actively supporting the fight against terrorism.
London a year ago suffered a similar fate of terrorist attacks but to their credit did not let this sway them from the fight against terrorism.
As to the rest of Europe, well the history of anti-semitism in Europe over the centuries plus the anti-Israel stand of countries such as France and Germany in recent times does not surprise me in the least that they would not support what Israel is doing right now - trying to rid itself of yet another external threat against not only her security, but her very existence.
But don’t let the facts get in the way of a good anti-Israel beat up.
July 23rd, 2006 at 2:34 am
Ah, Andrew - again ignorance of the facts but again why bother learning the truth when it is easier to espouse populist propaganda that is promoted for no other reason than to create hatred and hostility.
From Wikipedia (and no, as far as I am aware Wikipedia was not created nor is it run by Jews, but I could be wrong you know !!!)
“Zionism is a political movement and ideology that supports a homeland for the Jewish people in the Land of Israel, where the Jewish nation originated over 3,200 years ago and where Jewish kingdoms and self-governing states existed up to the 2nd century. While Zionism is based in part upon religious tradition linking the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, the modern movement was originally secular, beginning largely as a response to rampant antisemitism in Europe and in many parts of the Muslim world during the 19th Century. After a number of advances and setbacks, and after the Holocaust had destroyed much of the existing Jewish society in Europe, the Zionist movement culminated in the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948.
Since the founding of the State of Israel, the term Zionism is generally considered to mean support for Israel. However, a variety of different, and sometimes competing, ideologies that support Israel fit under the general category of Zionism, such as Religious Zionism, Revisionist Zionism, and Labor Zionism. Thus, the term is also sometimes used to refer specifically to the programs of these ideologies, such as efforts to encourage Jewish emigration to Israel. The term Zionism is also sometimes used retroactively to describe the millennia-old Biblical connection between the Jewish people and the Land of Israel, which existed long before the birth of the modern Zionist movement.
“Zionism” as a term also has controversial political overtones. The term is regularly used to describe the persecution of Arabs by the state of Israel. “Zionism is racism” campaigns are not uncommon. People who opine that Palestinian Arabs are in no way persecuted by Israel and that the situation is the exact opposite see this use of “Zionism” as a cover for anti-Semitism. There is no doubt that anti-Semitic groups have seized on the term and misuse it to justify racially-based attacks on Israel, further confusing the issue. In some cases, the label “Zionist” is also used improperly as a euphemism for Jews in general by those wishing to whitewash anti-Semitism (as in the Polish anti-Zionist campaign).”
But don’t let the facts get in the way of a good anti-Israel beat up in the guise of anti-semitism.
July 23rd, 2006 at 2:47 am
RK7 or should that be AK47: “We gave the world, taboulee, hommos and belly dancing some what..” I think you forgot suicide bombers to your list - maybe not you personally, but certainly some members of the Lebanese government known as Hezbollah.
I wonder if you were so vocal about innocent lives being taken - the school kids killed in Maalot years ago or the victims on the numerous buses in Jerusalem and the supermarkets in Netanya and the vegetable markets in Tel Aviv murdered by suicide bombers in more recent years.
I am all for self-defence and that is exactly what Israel is doing against the on-going terrorist activity against her perpetrated by the likes of Hezbollah and Hamas.
The sooner the people of Lebanon and the Palestinians in Gaza realise they are being played and used by these extremist groups for their own political agendas - i.e. the destruction and annihilation of the State of Israel - the sooner all this bloodshed will come to an end. Unless of course, you support the ideology of these extremist groups.
But don’t let the facts get in the way of a good anti-Israel beat up.
July 23rd, 2006 at 4:10 am
looking at the photos you have posted here, I see what we are not being shown on television here in the uk. I wonder why?
July 23rd, 2006 at 5:11 am
PEACE TO ALL
July 23rd, 2006 at 6:07 am
You Israeli people stop posting messages on this board….don’t show your fake appreciation…your saying that Hezbollah kills your family,kids,etc….well how come are there more then 300 Lebanese Dead whereas there are only 20 Israeli…..soldiers dead?!!!! Where is Hezbollah attacking????If would have been attacking the number of Israeli soldiers would be high….common people common sense think about it. You people will never listen…you don’t even understand you Torah…the Torah respectfullly mentioned that after Mozes there will be another prophet….this is not the last one. I don’t blame you Israeli’s you don’t understand our follow your own religion what else will you do. Thankgod I converted from a Jew to a muslim, may God guide you Jews of Israel on the right path before it is too late.
July 23rd, 2006 at 6:21 am
Another thing,
Are the Muslims all sleeping? What are the Sheikhs doing, and all the other Muslim leaders? Watching all this together? Usually they open their mouths but when time comes no one dares to help! We Muslims have become weak we have started using our body instead of our brains, why can’t all muslims unite and do something about this? We want to improve relations with Israel…? I recommend no Muslim country to become friends with terrorist..Israel Jews…they will never become our friend…even if it does so, the intension will always be to destroy our countries. Behind our back they will always hate us, and plan to destory us.
In addition now i see even more the importance of Millitary power, if Lebanon had invested in its millitary there would have been no chance that Israel would have dared to bomb Lebanon. Hezbollah is just an excuse,….Israel couldn’t face the development of Lebanon…a country where all religions live in peace, and a country that recovered and developed so fast. If Lebanon had a nuclear weapon i wonder if Israel would have still attacked….for their “so-called”defense…! Before i used to complaint about countries develloping their millitary system while half of the country is starving, but at the end of the day before you know it the country can end up like Lebanon, where everyone becomes homeless in a second.
God Bless Lebanon and its People.
July 23rd, 2006 at 6:25 am
Sometimes I think we still live in the dark ages….
When are people going to wakeup and smell the coffee?
The great powers are sleeping at night in comfy beds and waiting for the next day to start making some decisions. I hope they have nightmares at night. It has become very convinient to blame everything on the Middle East.
The poor people of Lebanon were pushed around for all these years untill in April 2005 they were finally left alone, to an extent. Now that they’re rebuilding it to it’s old glory, all of a sudden because of two soldiers the israelis decide to destroy it, along with it’s civilians. Where is the humanity in that? To Bush, Merkle and Blair: it’s becoming very obvious why nothing has been done yet……and once it does it will be for the wrong reason. (not saving Lebanon, but destroying Hezbolah)
Isn’t this very convinient for you Mr. Bush, since it was becoming difficult to convince the UN of entering Iran, now this does give you a way to go around that, right? Very interesting how this is all just falling into place for you.
I do all that I can do now, and that is pray for the poor civilians of Lebanon, as well for all those you intend on destroying in Iran. I sincerely hope that one day you will feel just a little of the pain and suffering that these poeple have endured for so long and see where that leaves you.
God help and look over the innocent and diminish their sorrows and suffering.L
July 23rd, 2006 at 6:30 am
What is UN for??? Where s the security Council??? Why don’t they See these…. is this called Human Rights???? You people who say that you are fighting for human Rights !! where are you???
See these pictures…. these are innocent people beeing Murdered…
Who is responsible for all this?? ISRAEL YOU MUST PAY FOR THIS..
July 23rd, 2006 at 6:32 am
I don’t see a difference between the Nazi’s and the Jews. The Nazi’s killed innocent Jews, and now the Jewish are killing the innocent Christian/Muslim Lebanese. Hypocrites.
July 23rd, 2006 at 6:49 am
Dear Amin,
When a Muslims hurts someone they say human rights are violated, but when a jewish hurts someone it is an act of defense… Human rights is only applicable to Jews remmember, or wait a second…i think it’s a part of their religion…if your no a Jew then your not a human. Furthermore the UN=US same thing, they can’t do crap in these sort of cases in times of ivasions etc…besides talking….and rubbing their nose to the US.
July 23rd, 2006 at 7:01 am
Adam (and others) so quick to condemn Israel. I wonder how many of you heard of a place called “The Good Fence” ? Probable very few of you but I am sure there are many inhabitants in Southern Lebanon who would recall “The Good Fence”.
In June 1976, the Israeli government announced that it was opening a section of the border to allow medical and other aid to residents of southern Lebanon who stood in need. The border was opened near Metulla; the gate in the fence marks the crossing point where the medical center was located. Every week for a number of years, the villagers of Southern Lebanon came to this gate and received help from Israeli personnel.
Slowly the programme expanded. Lebanese workers deprived of work in war-torn southern Lebanon began receiving permits to work in northern Israel. Lebanese citizens who had relatives in Israel were allowed to visit them. School children began to visit sites in Israel, and vacation camps were arranged for them. Agricultural aid was given, veterinary help was offered, and commercial ties between Israel and Lebanon were established.
During the first weeks, the crossing was simply a crooked fence - all you had to do was to crawl beneath it to get to the other side. Alter a while, a more official crossing was established near an I.D.F. post, close to an apple orchard belonging to a resident of Metulla. A hut was set up, which after a while turned into a clinic, followed by other buildings used as waiting rooms and reception areas. The national flag was also not forgotten, of course, and a dirt road was laid down later for the convenience of those coming to the area. Order reigned over the area, and nobody, not even veteran Metulla residents, minded that this point on the uneasy border had turned into an attraction for tourists who came in their thousands from all over the world.
With the opening of the Good Fence, the northern border of Israel began to take on some of the characteristics of a ‘normal’ border. From a complete lack of contact - the sealed border of early 1976 - relations warmed considerably. In 1981 alone, some 50,000 Lebanese visited Israel, and in the first four years after the opening of the fence, Israeli doctors treated some 200,000 patients.
Unfortunately, this lasted only about 5 years as a result of the PLO builiding up its numbers and attacks on Israel. But don’t take my word for this, ask those who lived in southern Lebanon at the time how good and normal relations were with Israel despite a civil war raging in Lebanon at the time.
July 23rd, 2006 at 7:20 am
Dear Dani,
Israel has a double standard policy, whatever aid you provided to the Lebanese people does not make a difference today….since you have displaced and destroyed most of them now….YOU GIVE & TAKE their life’s. On one hand you provide aid “we care about the civillians”, “we don’t want to hurt them” etc. You do all this for your own reputation, so that no one will point a finger at you, and everyone will be like”oh god look how caring the Israeli’s are they love the people, and they are only fighting against the enemy”, yet that is not the case.
I mean i lived in Israel i am from there, and we are smart people but common do you think Hezbollah is hidden in between civillians homes? Or is he hiding underneath a bridge? A guy like Hezbollah is also smart he is not stupid to hide himself in between civillains… and if Israel knows where he is why haven’t they captured him yet. Dani we just have to face reality sometimes…we have to learn , and admit our mistakes only then will we be wiser, we should be able to distinguish what is wrong and what is right, instead of trying to defend our religion or our homeland. I have to go now and i will get in touch once again.
Take care goodbye
July 23rd, 2006 at 8:11 am
Quand les peuples comprendront que leurs malheurs arrivent toujours à cause des mêmes: les Nazis d’hier et d’aujourd’hui, les USA et leurs vassaux israéliens… Ces gens là n’ont rien d’humain dans le vrai sens du terme. Ces êtres là sont des reptiles assoifés de sang, les fils du Serpent, méditez bien cette vérité là et comprenez que tant que vous acceptez leur domination sur Terre, celle-ci ne serà qu’un vaste champs de dévastations pour les plus pauvres…
July 23rd, 2006 at 8:16 am
Ah j’oubliais de préciser que je suis Juif, issu de la Shoah, mais je ne reconnais aucun droit à Israël de parler en mon nom! Je dirais avec feu le Professeur Abrahamovic: “les israéliens sont des judéo-nazis”!
July 23rd, 2006 at 10:26 am
I pray for our God that he may bring peace over the land of lebanon
God speaks in the bible of peace please read these and pray ACTS 10:36 GAL 5:22 PHILL 4:7 PSALMS 4 : 8,29:11 32:7 34:14-15 37:37 119:165 PROVERBS12:20 MATTHEW5:9 JOHN 14:27
PSALMS 91:1-7 THOSE WHO LIVEIN THE SHELTER OF THE MOST HIGH WILL FIND THE REST IN THE SHADOW OF THE ALMIGHTY 2 THIS I DECLARE OF THE LORD HE ALONE IS MY REFUGE MY PLACE OF SAFETY HE IS MY GOD AND I AM TRUSTING HIM FOR HE WILL RESCUE YOU FROM EVERY TRAP AND PROTECT YOU FROM THE FATAL PLAGUE. 4HE WILL SHIELD YOU WITH HIS WINGS HE WIL SHELTER YOU WITYH HIS FEATHERS. HIS FAITHFUL PROMISE ARE YOUR ARMOUR AND PROTECTION 5 DO NOT BE AFRAID OF THE TERRORS OF THE NIGHT, NOR THE DANGERS OF THE DAY, 6 NOR DREAD THE PLAGUE THAT STALKS IN THE DARKNESS, NOR THE DISASTER THAT STRIKES AT MIDDAY. 7 THROUGH A THOUSAND FALL AT YOUR SIDE, THROUGH TEN THOUSAND ARE DYINDAROUND, THESE EVILS WILL NOT TOUCH YOU. Amen
Please lets all trust in God we carnt do a thing But God can oh yes and he will
forjesus01@hotmail.com
July 23rd, 2006 at 10:56 am
please under stand that trust me i feel this pain my parents and little bro were stuck in northern Lebanon and its the hardest thing to take in your family on the other side of the world in a almost totally desroyed country tryin to leave but praise God they Just rang me there in Turkey i dont know why i put this on im just so happy
God knows whats going on
lets all stay strong and stop pointing the finger at whos doing what and lets start praying there is power in unity
LETS PRAY
AMEN
forjesus01@hotmail.com
July 23rd, 2006 at 10:57 am
the world is in need of strong and peace full leaders.
Lets all of us wherever we are, think, look and find the peace full and strong leaders for the future who can solve problems without using war.
To all the Leaders in the world who pretend that they are working for peace:
- Don’t you think that you are taking so long to ask for cease fire.
- Don’t you care about innocent people that they are dying every minute.
- Don’t you think that you should be courageous to make such decisions.
- Don’t you have kids and family.
- Don’t you have TVs.
- Don’t you have HURTS.
You should have family but they are not in danger so you don’t care about others family..
You should have Hurts but it is like a rock no feelings towards others.
You should have TVs but you don’t watch the real news.
Away from eye, Away from hurt
Lebanon will never die and will never end because God is watching us.
July 23rd, 2006 at 10:59 am
God bless lebanon and the lebanese,
my message is to the lebanese that are critisizing there brothers, their friends, and giving isreal an excuse to do this terror, they want us to believe this big lie, they are not against leabnese and they are killing them without diffrence christian or muslim, look to the history of israel when they were peacfull with us, from 48 till now, when they wanted to live in peace, when they occupied us or in 82 or 96 or now, open your eyes and stop telling another version of their lie,the world now is watching us, the world now started to see the truth, if they see that we the lebanese are not together, how should they believe us, why isreal went out of lebanon because she likes the lebanese or because the united nations told her too,why?why after they didn’t stop coming to our country,if they wanted to live in peace as they say, or they want their peace on the price of everyone else, it is not about prisonners anymore, nor syria nor iran nor hezballah nor a group of lebanese, never israel needed an excuse to do what she’s doing, they want to put their rules on us, we will see if they can do this, i was not with resistance before, i was one of those who used to blame them, now i understand that these peolple were trying to secure us in evey minute,we wanted the lebanese army at the borders,look what they are doing to the lebanese army every day,now i’m with everyone who defends lebanon, who leads lebanon to stay and stand on the eyes of the whole world, we will show that the leabnese are united and they will see how we will keep our lands and how they will start doubting whether to be where they are or to leave.
July 23rd, 2006 at 2:25 pm
This is what happens when Lebanon harbours and supports terrorism. It seems pretty easy to deflect the facts with sympathedic images of dead children. While sad…I dont remember one webpage making a big deal over Israeli Children being blow to bits in marketplaces.
Your bias is evident and for allowing Hizebolah to operate out of Lebanon, I hope your country burns in hell for offering sanctuary to such murders.
Your actions are not without consequence…this is what you are seeing.
July 23rd, 2006 at 2:30 pm
what israel is doing to lebonon is aweful vile. there are no words in english that i can think of.
I just hope folk amongst these people who suffer israels predations that, appart from the USA which is now a rogue element in the western sphere, western public opinion is very much in in favour of the oppressed.
its a shame, Tony Blair is our prime minister. what a disgrace. he shames britain, is a stain on our name.
July 23rd, 2006 at 3:22 pm
I Will say somthing, We are invitate to say the true, how is the case of all the distruction. few days before Hezbollah (pro Irana and Siria) said he has Big defense Strategy . That’s is the strategy of defense? destroyed all Lebanon. do you remember when Siria left Lebanon Bachar Assad said, I will destroy Lebanon. that’s is the Moment! what in the Golan there is a peace…
Out Hezbollah, Out Iran, out Siria, Yes for the lebanese people, yes to peace …
But my country is down, is destroyed every lebanese should pay arround 30000 $$ to the reconstraction. all the semtimetale world is empty world there is a big Deal to pay how pay? only the Lebanese people …
July 23rd, 2006 at 3:24 pm
Okay, now… let’s straighten a few things out!
FIRST OF ALL! The attacks on Labanon are a direct corerspondance to the ignorance of such people as the Hizbala. The hizbala, the Hamas and such terroist groups kill, murder, rape millions of cavilians each year! Does the world respond? No! Terroism cannot go on! Terrorism MUST be stopped! Thousands of Israelies are targeted by such groups. Oh, and let’s not forget all the Christian in Egypt that have the same thing happening to them, only they keep thier mouth shut! If the goveremnt of Labanon would know how to control such groups from harming innocent people. The Israeli Defence Force would not be doing what it is doing right now. Let’s not forget they are bombing Israel as well, shouldn’t Israel protect itself? Or should it just neglect its citizens and leave them to die by the arms of murders! I hope all of you that are protesting the acts of Israel, would feel how it is to lose a family member, just because some idiot decided that he is going to get 27 virgins when he willf inish fighting his holly war? How come when terroist kill and bomb Jews it is for a holly cuase and they are called freedom fighters? And when we react we are murders? Where is the sense in that? I am not for killin bombing or such things by any country! I just think that extreme situation cuase for extreme situations cuase for extreme measures! I want to see all of you people living in a country that is under complete threat all of the time. A country that is SCARED to take a bus, to go to the mall, to walk outside for 58 years. Scared of terroist kidnapping thier babies, that just recentely turned legal and started experiencing the world. Imagine living in a country where your next move could be your last? Gangs and street fights you can stop and you can help them rehabilitate. But what can you do against a gang that has gotten so large and feeden with so much hate towards anything that is different? How can you rehabilitate people that have been brainwashed that they are supirior since birth. Christianity went through the same crisits of trying to convert anything that moves, because anything that was different was evil. Such terroist groups are going through that phase, and citizens all acros the globe should protect themselves. Because it is Israel now, but who is going to be thier next target once they have killed all the Jews (sounds a bit like War World 2, eh?) These peole have no other occupation, they don’t know hw to do anything else. They were trained since birth to kill and fight! A country that makes its children praise insanities, is a brainwashed country! A country in which the MOTHER of a terrorist is justifying the fact that her son is dead plus 200 other innocent citizens! JUST THE SAME INNOCENT CITIZENS that are getting hurt in Lebanon! Only, Israel has been taking these kind of attacks for years, trying to protect itself, trying to avoid a war, trying to negotiate, giving up land… what not… Is religion worth kiling for? And should a religion that provocs and encourages murder by masses of the innocent still be allowed to exist? The Hamas and Hizbala have twisted thier own relgion to thier own likings and now they are using themt o thier own advantage. The bombings in Labanon would stop as soon as Labanon can assure that it’s citizens don’t send 75-125 km rockets at Israel and would not kidnap innocent citizens. A goverment should beheld responsible for it’s citizens. A specially for such a large GANG! Any good goverment takes care of it’s GANGS and rehabilitates them. Think twice, andput yourself in somebody elses shoes. I’s easy to put the blaming fingure… what would you do? what would you think? if you would be in that kind of situation? What would you think if Iw ould post on this site all the killings and hurt from the Israeli people? Would that make you change your mind? Once again, I am not encouraging any kind of killing fighting or war, just justifying. Any country that would be this massively attacked would react the same way!
July 23rd, 2006 at 3:44 pm
All we want is peace…. stop destroying Lebanon jews….alla yonsorna!
July 23rd, 2006 at 4:11 pm
Killing an innocent person is a cowardly terrorist act, no matter who does it.
Israel is killing innocents by the hundreds, how come you speak out on others but not Israel?
Our mission is to stop this, on BOTH ends.
July 23rd, 2006 at 5:09 pm
This is no defense to ur wat u call israel this is no matter of humanity. To Hell with Israeli ppl be doomed to death. please God show these murders ur punishement sooon. curse on such black hearts.
July 23rd, 2006 at 5:31 pm
Anti”freedomFighters”, it seems that u don’t know that much about history, and not seeing nothing except what ur media is ALLOWED to show in 1948 u didn’t even exist there were nothing called israel, u took the land of palestinian,their homes that what they’re fighting for, many times u crossed lebanese borders and u occupied lebanon, u killed our children many many many times u kept prisonners that what we were and still fighting for, it is history that will never give u the right, speaking about peace in which neighbour u have peace,u brought the terror to yourself, u r the one to let children sign the bombs to kill lebanese children, at least we teach children love and peace we teach them dignity and liberty, when u say “i want u to see u people living under threat”, i wanted to see u under occupation under invasion then what u will do,before u went out of lebanon like cowards once again history will show u who are lebanese people, nothing justifies ur murders nothing justifies massacresnever lebanon killed 340 civilian, never lebanon attacked children, because we know war is for soldiers to face, now u should fear from every lebanese
July 23rd, 2006 at 7:46 pm
I pray for our God that he may bring peace over the land of lebanon
God speaks in the bible of peace please read these and pray ACTS 10:36 GAL 5:22 PHILL 4:7 PSALMS 4 : 8,29:11 32:7 34:14-15 37:37 119:165 PROVERBS12:20 MATTHEW5:9 JOHN 14:27
PSALMS 91:1-7 THOSE WHO LIVEIN THE SHELTER OF THE MOST HIGH WILL FIND THE REST IN THE SHADOW OF THE ALMIGHTY 2 THIS I DECLARE OF THE LORD HE ALONE IS MY REFUGE MY PLACE OF SAFETY HE IS MY GOD AND I AM TRUSTING HIM FOR HE WILL RESCUE YOU FROM EVERY TRAP AND PROTECT YOU FROM THE FATAL PLAGUE. 4HE WILL SHIELD YOU WITH HIS WINGS HE WIL SHELTER YOU WITYH HIS FEATHERS. HIS FAITHFUL PROMISE ARE YOUR ARMOUR AND PROTECTION 5 DO NOT BE AFRAID OF THE TERRORS OF THE NIGHT, NOR THE DANGERS OF THE DAY, 6 NOR DREAD THE PLAGUE THAT STALKS IN THE DARKNESS, NOR THE DISASTER THAT STRIKES AT MIDDAY. 7 THROUGH A THOUSAND FALL AT YOUR SIDE, THROUGH TEN THOUSAND ARE DYINDAROUND, THESE EVILS WILL NOT TOUCH YOU. Amen
Please lets all trust in God we carnt do a thing But God can oh yes and he will
forjesus01@hotmail.com
July 23rd, 2006 at 7:55 pm
God is Able “Being fully persuaded that God had the power to do what He hadpromised” ( Romans 4:21 ) WE NEED 2 things to see GOD change circumstances:
1. Obedience
2. Know that he CAN and WILL make a difference
Why dont we turn to God in prayer more often? Because at some basic and perhaps unconscious level, we not fully “persuaded” that He’s able to do.anything about it.
Being able to admit that, to God, and ourselves, is humbling. Its also the point at which we begin to overcome our doubts, our self-sufficiency and our lack of confidence in God. Nothing changes until we can pray:
“Lord, help me. I say things with my lips, I dont allow to govern my life.”
Once we can speak those words with convition, we’re ready to begin walking through our Bible, rediscovering that “God is able…….
GOD IS ABLE to deliver from fiery furnaces of adversity (Daniel 3:17)
GOD IS ABLE to give a child to a 90 yr old woman (see Romans 4:18-19)
GOD IS ABLE to Do immeasurably more than all we ask” (Ephisians 3:20)
Whatever it takes for you to own the words “God is able”, do it, because until you do, you’ll be a faint hearted pray-er. You’ll make a few wishes on your knees, but you wont be able to persevere in prayer until you know in your heart of hearts that
God is able - and that He’s willing….
God is capable of handling anything you bring to him. Creating planets is no problem for him; neither is taking the little you’ve got and making it go a long way.
Nothing is too difficult for Him - He’s just waiting for YOU to recognise that, to know that he runs the show..then come to Him in faith, asking for His help, praying in his will, and watch the difference…
July 23rd, 2006 at 8:20 pm
This war is no accident…It is doomed to happen and here is why?
You have a huge modern army where soldiers are given multitude of benefits and incentives to join it, In fact that is the only way to secure your life is to sell yourself to this state by enlisting in its army where you get contribution to buy house, to get an education, even to buy a car! It is on everyone’s culture in the military state.
Add to it a Massive funding from “allies” whose only interest is to give a boost to their economies, other than contributions from different parties.
So immagine you put together such an army with state of the art Weapons, Financially enslaved soldiers who have no choice but to enlist for fear of losing all benefits and for the sake of their” futures”.
Immagine you have this army, how boring would it be not to test to see how much destruction it can bring, it is tempting. It is a huge sunk investment if you don’t use it. Why even bother to gather all these ressources from a country if you are not going to Use it.
The Cherry on top of all this is some ideology to join them together to give it a cause or else it would be an empty cause. That ideology is the ideology of hate against another religion a cause convincing enough to make it appealing to those who are fighting in this army. Heavy Brainwashing….
Now create 2 armies of the above even though they are not clones in funding and weapons and numbers.
Let their ideologies oppose each other, let the hatred of the each be prefectlly mutual to the other.
This war is no accident …It just needed ignition.
July 23rd, 2006 at 8:27 pm
GOD IS SO GOOD
please under stand that trust me i feel this pain my parents and little bro were stuck in northern Lebanon and its the hardest thing to take in your family on the other side of the world in a almost totally desroyed country tryin to leave but praise God they Just rang me there in Turkey i dont know why i put this on im just so happy
God knows whats going on
lets all stay strong and stop pointing the finger at whos doing what and lets start praying there is power in unity
LETS PRAY
AMEN
forjesus01@hotmail.com
July 23rd, 2006 at 8:39 pm
but this is 110% is true
JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS FOR ONE REASON THAT YOU MAY HAVE LIFE AND LIFE TO THE FULL ABUNDANCE JOHN 10:10
1. JESUS died for you.
2. JESUS loves you more than you can ever love anyone .
3. The only reason anyone would ever hate you is because they want to be just like you, but JESUS couldnt hate you even if he tried.
4. A smile from you can bring happiness to anyone, but all you need is JESUS and he will smile through you.
5. Every night, SOMEONE thinks about you before they go to sleep, but JESUS is thinking about you 24/7.
6. You mean the world to someone, if you only new how much the world means to JESUS.
7. You are special and unique. thats the way GOD created you to be in the image of him
8. Someone that you don’t even know exists, loves you. question is do you know JESUS exists and he loves you.
9. When you make the biggest mistake ever, JESUS has already forgiven you.
10. When you think the world has turned its back on you, JESUS is there with open arms.
11. Always remember the compliments you received. because 90% of the time its coming from JESUS through people.
PLEASE PRAY THIS PRAYER
Dear heavenly father on this day i pray that you may forgive me for my sins, I ask you jesus please enter in fill that void in my life that only you can fill. When we try and do it, We fail but there is only success in you, Show us to love the way you love us.
In jesus great and holy name we pray
…..AMEN…..
God Bless You
you may ask why i post this we should all turn to jesus and there wont be problems in this world
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July 23rd, 2006 at 8:46 pm
To Elias,
Whilst many of us sit at home praying to whatever God we believe in to stop this horrendous torture, you sit at the right hand of the Devil himself. Any civilised person who sees what is happening, not only in Lebanon but all around the world, would attempt to do anything in their power to stop it. Whether they pray, fast, donate or argue, a good person would want to see an end to violence.
Whilst my beautiful country was busy attempting to rebuild itself from the dire effects of war hate filed gangs grew within it. I can assure you that almost every person I met in Lebanon, Christian, Muslim, Lebanese or not, was as far removed from offering sanctuary to the Hezbollah as any person in Israel would be. I agree; we should be doing more to eradicate the fanaticism that is Hezbollah.
Elias, nurturing such hatred within you must be quite difficult. Rather than condem you though, I will pray for your soul and for your country. May you see that wishing evil upon any one is purely the work of the devil within.
July 23rd, 2006 at 10:48 pm
I cant understand how everyone is taking sides in this conflict. I was born in Lebanon and am absolutely shattered by what Israel is doing to my homeland. Having said that I wish no harm to the israeli people ….. IT seems a lot of the old israelis (as opposed to the new squatters) are as much against this as we are, So be careful about condeming all israelies, just as the government of israel and the US are condeming all lebanese in this invaion by israel. It would be far better to focus your anger and your frustartion at the humanitarian devastation that is happening in the middle east. What is going to save us as human beings if we spend all our anger and frustration wanting to retaliate against the other side. This slaughter of innocnece has to stop on all sides of this conflict. Lets take religion and politics out of the equation and concentrate on how we can join forces as the human race to put a stop to this carnage. Every life is precious no matter where it started. There is NO JUSTIFICATION for the brutality of war. PEACEMAKERS need to raise their voices ……… In a WAR there are no true winners. And if we believe the propaganda that is being perpetuated we are doomed to live in conflict for the rest of our lives and forever after hating all those who are different to us and do not believe our religious rites. Despite beliefs to the contrary there is only one GOD, we just all choose to believe in his presence in different ways. ANd if you are true believers of a great and powerful GOD (no matter what your religious doctrine) you will know that he does not want us to hate each other, no matter what our leaders are telling us. PEACE AND HUMANITARIANISM MUST BE THE ONLY WINNERS IN THIS CONFLICT
July 23rd, 2006 at 10:58 pm
Lebanon should have a deterant against Israel in case they ever decide to attack again. Israel does things like this because they know that the Lebonese cannot fight back.
July 23rd, 2006 at 11:15 pm
to ‘anti freedom fighter”…people of any threatened country make use of what they have to protect themselves,country and dignity. Hisballa was and will always be fighting against the isreali government. 12 days ago hisballa targeted the military posts and kidnapped 2 soldiers in order to retrieve whats rightfully theirs. isreal went buck wild and attacked lebanon left right and center claiming this as a threat and as a sign of worst to come unless they get their soldiers back,so hisballah again targeted military posts on two seperate attacks following isreals “act of defence”BUT once isreal continued to attack innnocents- hisballa reacted by targeting haifa.(which by the way has bomb shelters availabe to jewish residents- the arab muslim resident of haifa are taking shelter at a nieghbors and where ever else..agin lucky to be an isreali jew)
more over ..hamas has suicide bombers because the rocks the palastines throw (as a means of weapons of war) can do so much..what else can they use? the rockets of hisballa are their means of protection.give them access to what isreal has and uses then alls fair and then you’ll hear of how sad it is for the isreali ppl.
Each and every arab has been directly abused by the isreali government. be it physically emotionally and visually.
your tru to the saying…ignorance is bliss in ur case..
July 23rd, 2006 at 11:37 pm
Israel does things like these, because it knows it HAS t fight back. I do know my history… want me to educate you?
okay here it goes… Before Israel was offically called Israel.. Jews and Muslims lived happy together. Until the Muslims started noticing that the Jews started developing… building cities and such… conflicts started to arise. Israel secretly started building its army underground, because it knew that the Muslims would attack one day. And so they did! As soon as Israel became offically Israel, a war has started. For your information, Israel gave up many of it’s VERY SMALL LANDS, just to keep the peace! It still has stroops in some areas for means of protection only and not invasion.
Now, for the killing little babies… what Israel does have thousands MURDERED by the hands of such men who call themselves “freedom-fighters”? You don’t see Israelis DELIBRATELY strapping a bomb on themselves and going to blow up some Labanese eh? Israel is not attacking Labanon, it is trying to get all the TERROIST out of your country, dead! Since, obviously your counry can’t do it adequely! This is not an opportunity for Israel o attack Lebanon, it is an opportunity for Israel to attack the Hizbala. These freedom-fighters fight for land… their dead family members they are crying about are mass murders! I admit, there are casualties… as in any war! It is sad, because those children and women are innocent!
Lebanon and Palastine, DO NOT attack soldiers, they rarely get attacked, compared to the number of innocent civilians. Israel does notl ike it’s civilians hurt either.
Take care of such groups as Hizbala, return the two soldiers and everythign would be good and happy.
Oh and another point, if Israel would be so inhumane, why would it allow Palastinians to work and earn a living in its country? How come thier main power supply comes from Israel? without Israel they wouldn’t have electricity!
Many Bedoims, who are Muslims, live inside of Israel. Many of them work and the ones that dont’ well heck they get 1000 shekles monthly for each baby. Believe me they have a lot, plus many wives as well.
There are many Muslims who chose to live in Israel and they are tacken care of as any other citizen.
Israel does not have a problem with Muslims or any other religion for that matter.
The Israeli Defence Force, was specifically built and united to PROTECT its citizens, not to occupy!
Any war that has started, we have ALWAYS protected ourselves from an invasion. The problem is, we have always won and as part of that winning we occupied land.
All the land that was occupied in the war with Egypt was given back. Yeah… would a country that wants TO OCCUPY do that?
July 23rd, 2006 at 11:46 pm
None of this would have happened if the israeli soldiers were not kidnapped.
Blame Hesbalah not the Israeli’s.
As much as I don’t want innocent parties to be injured, the peoples frustrations should be squarely placed on Hesbalah’s leaders that allowed their guys to kidnap Israeli soldiers even after what they saw the Palestinians get for their efforts.
Maybe people should learn to rid their own countries of the hate before trying to change others.
July 24th, 2006 at 12:10 am
-To all the damn people against the middle east-
1. Roxana nadar
2. Hammer lock
3. Lama
4. Roger
5. George
6. Rave
7. Talal
8. nata-go to hell Lebanon didn’t start shi*
9. J said-you go to hell and on ur way go die ur laughing now but my as* is goanna be laughing later wait the time is coming
10. Leb.a theist
11. Shaymaa
12. Mike
13. Phil.j
14. Israeli
15. Fad
16. Douglas
There is way more people out there but I couldn’t read all 425 of them anyway that’s not the point u people r saying Lebanon started the WAR if it did give me one GOOD reason????? I’ll give u a plenty of reasons how Israel started the war
1. Israel kidnapped over 10,000 people from Lebanon r those people dead or r they just suffering? i can answer that Israel wants to make the INNOCENT PEOPLE SUFFER so they die from starvation from the abuse from the slaughtering from everything u can ever think of
2. u want to know what Israel does with the people that they capture- okay they take of there clothes and they put bags over their head and put them in brining BURNING WATER that’s one way how they can die
3. They don’t feed them so they die
4. They take of their shoes and make them walk on nails also sharp stuff so they die
5. they put them in TINY LITTLE JAILS if they react they put them in this VERY VERY VERY SMALL metal BOX with ur children can’t even fit in and i saw that metal box in my 2 own eyes but this wasn’t all in 2006 it was back then to and tell me can anyone breath in a 1 and a half box because that’s how small the box is that’s another way
6. Israel killed infants, children, adults, young adults any person on earth I can ever think of.
Israel may have a lot of ammunitions but u know what Lebanon has it’s better then ammunitions in a billion times it’s their families, their dignity, they have each other the most important thing is we have the OLMIGHT GOD SO WE DON’T NEED AMMUNITIONS WE HAVE EACHOTHER AND GOD THAT’S ALL WE NEED do got that? NO you will never have that in a million years.
Lebanon never started shi*so please Israel do one little favor stop using this as an excuse Lebanon kidnapped 2 of r soldiers- that’s no excuse now this is an excuse-Israel kidnapped 10,000 of innocent people also killed over 340 people and over 50,000 people got wounded- that’s an excuse and no one can argue with me no one because I’m right and so is my HOMELAND
Please I don’t need to say no more look at the pictures above and that says everything it expresses everything
If you people still don’t believe me stop watching the damn cnn exc… Because it’s all bull that’s all I have to say and start watching something that doesn’t talk bull and that doesn’t lie please thank you
Israel us Lebanese will appetite it allot if u stop this childish war and just stop please we are in the year 2006 and can you people still believe that there is allot of states and countries having wars can u people believe that seriously we Arabs Christians Americans Jews Irish Canadian exc.. Are all supposed to be united and equal to one nation am I right
GIVE US LIBERTY OR GIVE US DEATH
GIVE US LIBERTY OR GIVE US DEATH
GIVE US LIBERTY OR GIVE US DEATH
GIVE US LIBERTY OR GIVE UR DEATH
GIVE US LIBERTY OR GIVE US DEATH
BI DEM BI ROUH NEDFIK YA LIBNAAAAAAAANNN
July 24th, 2006 at 12:30 am
All of this is happening for a reason by why innocent ppl have to die aspeacily children why did they do to desirve this ????Why can’t they live a happy normal life instead they must see death and all ht ekilling that is going on there.And where the hell is the presindent of that country ?Send him a letter and tell him to wake up and see what si going on with his country or ppl have more faith in him and belive smth will happen ?? Coz it won’t untill ppl have a word to say.Thanks and god help you all out there.
July 24th, 2006 at 12:38 am
This is a reply to Sensible …. Yes Hezballah did kidnap TWO Israeli SOLDIERS. But Israel does NOT then have to right to vent its tantrums on an innocent country. This attack by Israel on Lebabon is not about two israeli prisoners of war. This is about bringing Labanon to its knees so that Israel remains in control of the region its occupies. There is wrong on both sides of the boarder …….. But you cannot blame this carnage on the capture of two Israeli soldiers, Israel and its allies the UNited States have another agenda and used the capture as an excuse to bring about the distruction of newly built and re emerging PROUD LEBANON. But as I said earlier … rather than focus on the destruction that Israel and the US seem determined to dish out to Lebanon …… Focus on how we can make the world stand up and take notice of these senseless killings and the WAR crimes that are being ignored by most of the rest of the WORLD.
July 24th, 2006 at 12:51 am
HISBALLAH is a lebanese resistance force of southern lebanon.it hasnt brought un- expected action upon any other country but isreal (their twisted government and army). “:when hate taps at there windows they dont pull the blinds..they open the windows and tackle the problem.” all the power to em!!
as for the arabs against hisballah and against the lebanese government for allowing them be…well lebanon should be more than just a pretty place..it should have a forward thinking prosperous leader/government to set its own rules that will inevidently pay off, hisballah has never forced its beliefs on anyone,it merely presents the logic and behold the true colors of all!!! its an eye opener all right!
everyones intitled to there opinion.. the truth will prevail. stop ass kissing to the american regime and stand up for your selves!!
July 24th, 2006 at 12:54 am
Let the Lebanese gov’t clean it’s mess that it built when it allowed Hetzbollah to become the gov’t police and peace will return. It is sad to see people die because others love terror and do not value life.
July 24th, 2006 at 1:30 am
Bismillahi Rahmanir Rahim!
Assalamu Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu!
That’s God’s wish! But that was done NOT by human being!!! They’re (Israeli) killing harmless kids!! Why?? It seems that they don’t have kids OR their kids are in the safe places already, so they don’t care about other’s kids!! Let God show them in return for their massacres!! Ameen!!
Insha Allah that massacred kids will be in Paradise!!!
Assalamu Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu!
July 24th, 2006 at 1:33 am
To Anti ….. You claim to know the history of your people. Well you are ill informed. New jewish settlers were not content with the land it was given after UN gave the displaced jews Palestian land …… They were determined to take all the land that they considered holy to them, regardless of wether or not it had been occupied by Palestinians fro the last 2000 years. It is mainly the new settlers who have flooded into the country to help irradicate the Palestinians off the land that these free loaders want. Israel is not and has never been innocent in this fight …… The real people of Israel abhore what the new settlers have brought to their homeland. So please do not say again that Irael is and has always been the innocent in this conflict …. it is as much a terrorist as those it names. I do not hate Israel or its people ….. but I have no love for its government that is fully funded by the US and the Terror they are helping fan in the todays world
July 24th, 2006 at 3:24 am
What as it that Goebbels said? Repeat a lie enough times and people will believe it.
Thanks Violette, and others, for your revisionist view on history. If these are truly your attitudes and beliefs, peace and destroying terrorism is not going to happen in the forseeable future, as many of you are happy to embrace groups such as Hezbollah and the acts they carry out.
What will happen, and I think sooner than later is some sort of international force will come in and patrol/control southern Lebanon around the border with Israel - if the people of Lebanon and the Leabanese army can’t control Southern Lebanon, than someone else will have to do that for them.
More importantly for Lebanon, the relative peace enjoyed these past 6 years since the exit of Syria and the end of the civil war will be replaced by renewed attempts by Syria to become involved again - don’t be surprised to see Syria declare they are returning to Lebanon to help the Lebanese people and we all know what that means - Syria will look to ensure that its representatives are in control of Lebanon and when that happens so will sectarian violence once again embroil Lebanon - it will be shi’ite against sunni against christian as it was not so long ago.
And this does not even take into account what Iran will do to ensure that Lebanon is pushed more and more into becoming a fundamentalist moslem state.
The future of Lebanon is in the hands of the Lebanese people themselves - not Israel, not Syria, not Iran and certainly not Hezbollah. The sooner the people of Lebanon realise this and take control and rid themselves of self-interest groups that have their own agenda which has nothing to do with the best interests of Lebanon, the sooner will Lebanon return to being a peaceful and safe country for its citizens and tourists.
If, on the other hand, the people of Lebanon are happy to embrace groups such as Hezbollah and allow them to be part of the government and accept what they do regarding terrorist attacks and the shooting of rockets in Israel, then the people of Lebanon will have to accept the consequences that will result from this.
Sometimes it can be difficult to make the correct choice, and whilst being hard and sometimes painful in the short term, the right choice can in the long term lead to peace and co-existence.
The choice is there to make - hopefully the people of Lebanon will make the right one.
July 24th, 2006 at 4:31 am
GOD IS A GOOD GOD
THIS IS A SAD THING TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING TO LEBANON BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THIS IS HAPPENIN ALL OVER THE WORLD EVERYDAY WE HAVE TO TRUST IN GOD
LETS ALL UNITE IN PRAYER
LET GOD HAVE HIS WAY
GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO ARE DOING THAT AND IL PRAY FOR ALL THE ONES WHO ARENT
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July 24th, 2006 at 5:06 am
Outside Observer,
I am nor an arab or a jew but have been very moved and frustrated for more than 3 decades as I closely follow middle east issues and facts and reporting. Why? because of how many in the media and those in power and those in big business and lobbyists have distorted facts of the crimes commited by the so called democracy of Isreal on a daily basis. It is very hard to get the truths out when you have endless streams of money working against you. There is a silent majority in Canada and the world who are very educated, more than the so called “political experts” on CNN or editors in our local papers. Unfortunately many universities are already blindly biased, sometimes not as blindly but certainly purposely misinformed to a gross extent. I admire National Geographic and a few brave editorials over the years but always a backlash in comments purposely printed the next day. I am Canadian and I am sorry to all the people of the middle east , except Isreal. I do not respect Israel and how it uses it’s power . I respect the people of Palestine and Lebanon . My heart is heavy for your pain and God bless you. There are countless on your side even if we can rarely be heard. As for the people of Israel, I am not sorry that you are offended. I am sorry that you and your spoiled children treat arabs like dogs as they clean your toilets when you so “graciously” let them through your countless humiliating check points . Perhaps Isreal thinks that 5 or 10 years from now they can start this in a “buffer” zone in Lebanon they are trying to create now. Maybe kill and jail and torture Labanese children for throwing stones, maybe some more rich jewish american lawyers, bankers and doctors ext. want to move to the endless “chosen land ” for Gods “chosen people”. I am sorry Israel, God doesn’t choose people just because they have state of the art weapons and enough money and connections to destroy economies and lives and twist historical facts never mind daily facts. We are all God’s children and I am sorry 90% of your spoiled population wants Lebanon destroyed for their own good. Shame on you while you drink your coffee mocha in your rich patio bars, so worried about suicide bombers. You created them, I know you will never have them. Not because your are “civilized”, no, but because you do not need courage when you have so many toys from your american friends “democratic” arsenal. Israel,don’t hide behind your terrorist propaganda , I knew you were as dangerous as Bush but I thought your country was a bit smarter. Do not think the whole world is going to constantly put up with your shit. A man loves his family whether he is jew or arab, but the arab family seems always to be of less value. Your government said live on CNN, “all muslims are not terrorists, but all terrorists are muslim”…. bullshit. The more you bomb and humiliate, and kill ,and torture, and twist with one sided media, the more you lose respect from those that stay silent. The more you create justified extremists. Do not think your so special that you can get away from your past doings, people around the world are getting very angry. Stop bombing Lebanon, you already once again accomplished your goal of taking them back to your original destruction and seeding civil war in the past. What is scary is that you have weapons of mass destruction and you have repeatedly demonstrated you have the character to use them…
July 24th, 2006 at 5:59 am
[3] In a land close by: but they, (even) after (this) defeat of theirs, will soon be victorious,
[4] Within a few years. With Allah is the Decision. In the Past and in the Future: on that Day shall the Believers rejoice,
[5] With the help of Allah. He helps whom He will, and He is Exalted in Might, Most Merciful.
[6] (It is) the promise of Allah. Never does Allah depart from His promise: but most men understand not.
[7] They know but the outer (things) in the life of this world: but of the End of things they are heedless.
July 24th, 2006 at 7:05 am
God knows whats going on
lets all stay strong and stop pointing the finger at whos doing what and lets start praying there is power in unity
LETS PRAY
AMEN
[Edited by wemaster]
July 24th, 2006 at 10:17 am
What’s happening now is just another reminder of the monster that is living amongst us…This monster is an enemy in the form of a state that has no friends and doesn’t distinguish between Muslim or Christian, Sunni or Shiaa…This monster never needed an justification or pretext to wage his wars and show his ugly face against us. This monster is an enemy on a mission to destroy us all…We should unit together and support each other and remember that just talking won’t bring back the lives of innocent babies, children and women or build the infrastructure of our beloved Lebanon. We need to rely on deeds and swear not to remain passive in the face of this enemy. We need to raise our voices, collect funds to support those who are fighting on our behalf, the great resistance along with Lebanese army. We need to say to those who think that they are moderate in their thinking and believe that peace can be achieved with this monster, enough of that useless propaganda. Peace and sovereignty can only be gained and will never be given to us for free. Peace and sovereignty can only be achieved when we regain our sense of humanity without compromising our dignity. Peace and sovereignty can only be achieved when we understand that Lebanon comes first not our own personal interests or political agenda. If we are strong and united, our enemy will think twice before committing such atrocity the next time. It is sad that this wake-up-call came at such a heavy price but it is not too late unit and roar in one voice YES to Lebanon, YES the Lebanese Resistance. For the sake of our kids, their lives and future, who were declared of no value by the whole world we need to say down with Israel, and the USA down their shadows in the Arab world, down to the UN that couldn’t issue a statement condemning the killing of innocent civilians after three (3) attempts/meeting of it Security Council and LONG LIVE LEBANON and its RESISTANCE.
July 24th, 2006 at 10:17 am
I am so so sorry Lebanon. I am disgraced that my country (USA) is supporting what is happening to you. May God grant all the deceased eternal life with Him. And may the world help you in your time of need!
STOP BOMBING LEBANON ISREAL!
July 24th, 2006 at 10:17 am
ISRAELI knows one is destroying Lebanon but Israel. lebanon WAS a BUTIFUL country but NOW it’s a BIG DISESTER, all thanks to ISRAEL.PHIL J one day someone is going to disarm u if it’s not now it’s in the day of judgment AND THAT’S A PROMISE.LAMA WAT WERE U THINKING BEFORE U WROTE THAT? think before u wrote, u mean U not WE.ROGER no they didn’t start it ISRAEL KIDNAPPED OVER 10,000 INNOCENT PEOPLE FRON LEBANON, so those 2 soldiers were doing something SUSPICIOUS IN LEBANON,SOME SNOOPING AROUND,SO LEBANON TOOK THOSE 2 SOLDIERS BUT BELIEVE ME LEBANON WOULD NEVER KILL THE 2 SOLDIERS. INSHALLAH WEN ISRAEL RETURNS ARE 10,000 PEOPLE LEBANON WILL GIVE THEM THE 2 PEOPLE THAT’S FAIR AND INSHALLA THE WAR WILL STOP.WE HAVE INNOCENT FAMILIES IN LEBANON are mother’s are father’s are grandparent’s are friends are houses, so all Lebanon is saying please stop this manic, it’s one war it’s not going to last forever is it?? NO NO so just stop it now Lebanon and Israel both of those countries are wasting their time just because of one stupid war, instead of having this war, go spend some quality time with ur families believe me ur families need u in this situation and Israel most of the Israelis are with Lebanon and are against Israel so Israel be the good and stop this war please I know it’s not u guys it’s ur government talk to him please for once be nice and talk to your government and tell him to stop please everyone will really appetite it please because right now u r acting very foolish seriously so please stop right now were supposed be in Lebanon with are families and friends and living in r houses but now we have no houses and inshallah it will never happen are families are about to go away and u don’t want that to happen because I know that’s you Israeli soldiers would not want your houses to corrupt but now who gives a shi* about houses i know you don’t want your families to die smahalla no one does we don’t want are families to die so do u? so don’t deny it because that’s all we got are families are dignity each other and MOSTLY GOD. so pleze stop.
PEACE TO THE MIDDLE EAST
May peace be upon us
lebanezebuty@hotmail.com
July 24th, 2006 at 10:30 am
sorry i met lebanesebuty@hotmail.com not lebanezebuty@hotmail.com
lebanesebuty@hotmail.com
July 24th, 2006 at 10:41 am
Enough with the blood thirsty Israeli’s, haven’t they had enough throught the centuries??!!
July 24th, 2006 at 10:52 am
such a shame of isaerl the killing innocent people. shame shame jews
July 24th, 2006 at 11:16 am
Sinto muito pelo atual terror que se expande no mundo, pois por mais que meu país não esteja em guerra, temos nossos conflitos e toda vez que vejo o que está acontecendo em meu país e ao redor do mundo como tragédias inacreditáveis e inaceitáveis como essa no Líbano, sinto que a humanidade está se enfraquecendo e somente a brutalidade, a loucura e a insanidade estão se fazendo presentes.
Não é possível que a demência tenha tanto poder e decida o que fazer com a humanidade, que mate e trucide sem ser julgada, ou pior, que impere no mundo real como se estivesse em uma estória cinematográfica de guerra onde todos são inimigos e devem ser aniquilados para “salvação da Terra”.
Sinto por estarmos indignados, apavorados e sem ação. Mas espero que esse povo resista na luta e na esperança e que todos nós deixemos de nos resignar a tal crueldade fantasiada de justiça.
July 24th, 2006 at 11:56 am
Shame on Muslim world for not standing up. Why don’t they speak out against this. Where are the leaders of so called Muslim world.
I am not fimiliar with Lebanon much but don’t they have army, navy, air force? No body who can defend their people. How long are they going to let this happen?
July 24th, 2006 at 12:06 pm
Le 24/07/2006
Les images que j’ai vues me sont insupportables.
Je me demande vraiment s’il n’y a plus un seul être humain sur cette planète. Pourquoi laisse t-on des enfants ce faire massacrer sans réagir ? Au nom de quoi laisser des hommes commettre de telles atrocités, avec une telle cruauté ? Où sont les hommes au pouvoir ? Pourquoi ne réagissent-il pas ?
De quoi accuse-t-on les Libanais? De quelles preuves parle t-on? De quoi sont coupables ces enfants, ces femmes, ces hommes, pour qu’on les massacre.
Comment les Israéliens ont-ils pu oublier l’horreur que leur peuple a vécu pendant la deuxième guerre mondiale. Pourtant ils sont les mieux placés pour comprendre les souffrances de la guerre, du racisme et de l’intolérance.
Je ne comprends plus rien à ce monde. Qui sont les réelles Terroristes, ces milliers de Libanais qui souffrent et meurs alors qu’ils ne demandaient qu’à vivre en paix ou ces milliers de soldats d’israéliens qui tuent et massacrent impunément tout ce qui se trouve sur leur passage. Où est donc cette poignet d’hommes du Hisbollah ? Ne les retrouveront-ils qu’après tout détruit sur leur passage.
Mais le Liban et le peuple Libanais ne mourront jamais. Dieu est avec eux.
Je suis croyante et je prie pour mes frères et sœurs Libanais et je prie aussi pour que dieu ait pitié de l’armée Israélienne. Comment peuvent’ ils vivre avec tant de haine et de cruauté dans le cœur.
Que Dieu protège les Opprimés.
July 24th, 2006 at 12:39 pm
this is the most undeisrable things of those ideots . i do’t know how the world loking these. nocountry try to prevent them. what a pathatic show
July 24th, 2006 at 12:54 pm
i have said for years that the jewish goverment is the most oppressive sinse hittler
July 24th, 2006 at 1:09 pm
I am an American citizen as well as a Soldier. But before I continue, I would like to get certain things taken care of.
- No, I do not support war without reason.
- No, I do not like to see innocent civilians come under fire.
Time and time again, I have been targeted with those baseless accusations just because of our presence in Iraq. Time and time again, I have been ridiculed for being an American because someone else did or did not do something.
While watching television one night, a commercial came on that rang all too true about this world. It was a group of people standing around a garbage can, with a discarded aluminum can on the ground next to it. All these people were shaking their heads, voicing their disgust about how he/she would never do such a thing, or never let their families do such a thing, etc.
None of them were acting, save one kid who passed, picked the can up, and threw it into the garbage, rendering the entire group speechless and ashamed.
That’s what I see all over the world.
I’m tired of being a target because a few people made a decision someone doesn’t like. I’m tired of people not realizing that a nation’s population is full of individuals, not mindless drones manipulated and twisted with the same views as their government or neighbors.
Yet at the same time, I see these same people take great effort to make the point clear when their individualism comes under question. So what makes their nation a group of individuals and mine not?
Nations continue to see other nations as brainwashed, not leaving room in their opinions for error, and it sickens me. If this is what it takes to be human, I’d rather not be included in the group.
As for all that’s happening between Israel and Lebanon? This is what I gather from what’s posted here alone:
Lebanon was not ignorant to the “beast that is Israel” so where were their precautions against a potential attack? Even the most skilled and confident animal trainers take precautions against the tamest of beasts in the event of an attack. No matter if the animal had never had done so in the past. Yet according to what I see, Israel has. If Hezbollah is so bad that even Lebanese don’t like them, how come it’s still around? What’s been done to take care of it?
Now since this entire thread was pointing fingers at Israel, I don’t have much to go off of, so it might seem biased against Lebanon. Don’t take it like that. Both nations could have taken action to help prevent a scenario like this one.
Israel claims their attacks are made in self-defense against Hezbollah. If that’s true, how come it seems there are no measures being taken to ensure the safeguard of innocent human life? I’ve seen claims that Israel recognizes that Hezbollah hides within civilian areas and claims to send messages ahead of time to warn the countless innocents about the incoming barrage. If that’s the case, where are these messages, since it seems they’re not reaching their intended destinations.
I don’t see this kind of attitude in just the Middle-East either.
During the fiasco with New Orleans being struck by Katrina, we got nothing but ridicule for not having forces there within 24 hours of the hurricane devastating the city. Even the fastest units take at least 24 hours to mobilize, and then there’s travel time. One woman was so bold as to show her distaste for Soldiers turning people away from their homes because the water was diseased and living conditions weren’t safe. She called it un-American. I thought it was genuine concern for her well-being. But something bad happened to them and no one fixed it within 24 hours, so the government was bad and no one cared about them. That was their view on things.
Yes, this conflict is tragic. Yes, it could have been prevented and can still be stopped. But that doesn’t excuse people doing nothing but pointing the finger at someone else, debating the reasons it started instead of discussing how it could be stopped.
July 24th, 2006 at 1:15 pm
icondemen israeal very strongly very vulgarlly what they did to lebanon acusing hizballah abducting the two soldiers while hizb wants to trade destroying killing out of grudge ,hate stupdness ignorite president devil envious because people in lebanon very patients have prides integrity dignity to their country no matter what happend go to hell israel i;positive your in hell we going to be the victorious in shaa allah lebaneese go for it i love you lebanon
July 24th, 2006 at 1:46 pm
For all I know, beliefs in God is the problem rather than the solution.
July 24th, 2006 at 2:31 pm
Another American soldier here. Enough of the non-thinkers and gutless wonders in here hating those who have the guts to make hard decisions and see them through to completion. Everyone’s steadily pointing the finger at Israel as if they’re the big villain, yet almost none of you (Walker being the seeming exception) will look at Lebanon and say that they had a part in this. Is Lebanon actually a legitimate nation, with its own government and armed forces charged with securing its borders against enemies both foreign and domestic? If so, then why, pray-tell, does this so-called Lebanese goverment deliberately fail to do what it takes to remove Hizballah from its own soil? The Lebanese government doesn’t support nor sponsor Hizballah, yet they’ve let this disease continue to fester in southern Lebanon for years without lifting a finger to correct the situation. So now Hizballah has the nerve to grow bolder in its attacks and Israel is doing what it needs to do to rectify it. Hopefully, Israel will do the right thing and destroy Hizballah as a fighting force; then, you’ll finally have peace in southern Lebanon/northern Israel. A tragic shame, with more innocents dying on both sides than combatants, but spread the responsibility for this nonsense properly. It’s long past time for Lebanon to “Man-up” and handle its own business in terms of its internal security, so the Israelis won’t have to do it for them. Oh, by the way, don’t think I’m not aware that Syria is exerting the influence necessary to keep Hizballah in business…they need to be put in check, as well.
July 24th, 2006 at 4:09 pm
Assalam-o-Alaikum
after seeing all these images i just can’t say any thing but want to ask all the civilized nations tht r u they rite now as the barbarism is on its peek and bcoz its from the Israel tht y no 1 is saying any thing and America who is trying to be the father of all the world and get into all the matters of almost all the countries y is America not saying any hting at such a time when Israeli’s r destroying the Lebonan and harming the civilians on the name of a few Soldiers…..i htink America and Israel r the Biggest terrorist of the world at the time…….
July 24th, 2006 at 4:10 pm
There is God watching this
July 24th, 2006 at 4:53 pm
Israel es lo peor que le ha pasado al mundo, son los asesinos mas grandes de toda la historia……. lastima que no dejaron a hitler acabar con esas porquerias judias……. maldito israel……… insensibles, carniceros
July 24th, 2006 at 5:52 pm
Es increible como un pueblo que se hace llamar el pueblo de dios es tan infame, y sin ningun remordiemiento masacra a tantos inocentes, es importante que todas las comunidades pacificas del mundo manifestemos nuestro repudio a esta guerra no declarada y a un holocausto que ahora los Israelitas aplican en el Libano
July 24th, 2006 at 6:24 pm
People forget that this whole thing can be stopped almost instantly if hezbolloh stops the rocket attacks and returns just two kidnapped soldiers.
It is that simple.
Whereas for the Israelis to get hezbollah to stop they would have to release thousands of prisoners, give up land, and who knows what else.
Talk about disproportionate!
I am sorry, but no matter how much I sympathize with the Lebanese people, they cannot have it both ways.
You can’t have leaders (including the very top) insist that they had no knowledge and disapproved of this action (kidnapping) yet demand the ransom anyways…
July 24th, 2006 at 6:43 pm
Today we have seen that governments in any country don’t listen to whatever their public say. If purpose is to make world free of terrorism then surely you are allowed but not on the expense of killing innocent children who even don’t know how to write the word “WAR” on paper. A few babies haven’t yet learnt how to speak out “WAR”.
Israel is fighting for it’s own goals, Hisbullah is fighting for its own goals, US and UK are doing for their own and Lebanese children and innocent people are the victims.
God bless Lebanese and those who are not among us, God forgive them!
July 24th, 2006 at 6:54 pm
God Bless the souls of those who died and those who are facing the death everyday. GOD DESTROY ISRAEL AND USA AND LET THEM FACE THE SAME FATE AND LET THEM FEEL THE HUNGER AND THE FEAR THAT THEY GAVE US . iF THERE IS SO CALLED HUMANITY WHERE IS IT? WHOEVER SEES THOSE PICTURES AND STILL SAY iSRAEL IS RIGHT IN WHAT IT IS DOING QUESTION YOUR CONSIENCE BEFORE YOU DO SO. SHAME ON YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 24th, 2006 at 7:06 pm
Isto é incompreensível, desumano e uma grande tolice, como permitimos sermos governados por quadrupedes como estes.
July 24th, 2006 at 7:08 pm
If one more person on here says that Israel is only defending itself and it sending measured strikes on Lebanon and targeting only Hezballah …… I will SCREAM so loudly you will hear me cross the world. I ask you to compere the measured strikes of Isael against the random strikes of Hezballah. Go to www.fromisraeltolebanon.org to see the trail of Israelie mesured strikes and then go to www.fromisrael and compare the photos of devastation ……. ANd then come back and tell Isrl is being dfensive. Israels right to exist apparently does not extend to the innocent people of Lebanons right to live in PEACE. I do not want to see this WAR continue for any reason. No one has a right to take anothers life for whatever reason they may justify. WAR BEGETS WAR. ANd you will never broker peace by fighting in a GODLESS WAR. I dont want to hear about and see any more deaths on either side.
PS: To Dani …… History has not been revised …. I think you’ve been given a false secularhistory which is taught in both the US and Israel it seems ….. because both these nations seeem to think that any WAR they rage on others is justified by their need todefend themselves. I suggest you read “Stupid White Men” by Michael Moore to explan to you the real reason americans and israelies always feel that they have to defend themselves.
PPS: to Johnson ….. You are just an ignorant fool. Whether or not you consider Lebanon a legitimate nation or not it has been around for a lot longer that the stolen state of Israel.And if the terrorist nation (as many are callin it ) of Syria is backing hezballah …… Why shouldnt it do as the US is doing and pouring billions of dollars a year into Israel. Money that is been taken away from the welfare and medical funds of POOR americans. PULLLLEEEEEZZZZE Go stick your head back in the sand
July 24th, 2006 at 7:33 pm
This is perhaps the true tragedy of the islamic world, that they are so filled with and enamoured with hatred.
They will cling to it with their dying breaths, they will even sacrifice their own children upon this unholy altar.
I am so glad and relieved that I have escaped all of that.
I do not like that innocent people are killed, but you cannot claim that Israel does so intentionally. You cannot deny that they even try to warn such people.
Can you say the same for hezbollah, or hamas, or any other so-called resistance groups?
And why always, always the “disproportionate” criticism of Israel?
Despite the terribly unfortunate happenings in Lebanon, more muslims are killed every day in Iraq (by other muslims), more black people are killed every day in darfur (again by muslims), etc. etc. Where is the justified outrage over all this?
It is always the same; those they disagree with are never given the same consideration that they demand always for themselves.
Again, all the killing and suffering, which everyone would rightly dispair of, can be stopped instantly if hezbolloh takes a very small action in returning the kidnapped Israelis.
But if you think that such actions are not criminal, but rather “heroic”, or that they should persist and not give in, then you have no call to make any demands or complaints.
And, if we must have nations, then there is also a very simple solution to the palestinian “problem”, namely two states along prior borders.
This is something, that, if proposed in good faith, 99% of Israelis would agree to.
But, of course, the muslim world always insists that Israel accept a “poison pill” along with this, namely the “return” of those (and their progeny) who left during the initial separation (ignoring, of course, the roughly same amount of jewish people forced from the west bank and other areas in the middle east).
That these “refugees” now number in the millions means, of course, that a two state solution will entail not a jewish state and a palestinian state, but rather two palestinian states, one with, of course, an increasingly small proportion of jewish “guests”.
Any guess on how these “guests” will be treated?
This is the deranged and dangerous fantasy of much of the muslim world, masquerading under the guise of “justice”.
Only when this hypocritical mockery is seen for what it truly is can there ever be hope for peace.
July 24th, 2006 at 7:48 pm
bombs r 4 pussies
July 24th, 2006 at 8:00 pm
ANGRY at the LIES - I wouldn’t want to get into a picture comparison exercise as there are plenty of photos of children, mothers and other innocents in buses, supermarkets, shopping malls, fruit markets, cafes etc. who have been blown up by suicide bombers or so-called resistance fighters as you would call them.
As to reading Michael Moore, I wouldn’t waste my money on anything he has written.
As I said above, the future of Lebanon is in the hands of the Lebanese people.
July 24th, 2006 at 8:03 pm
Looks like Jerusalm or Tel Aviv after an attack by Hammas and other terriorist attacks that target civilians. The Lebonese government allows Hezbollah to train, supply, and launch attacks from their territory. The people were not targeted by the Israilies like the people around the world that are attacked by Terrorists. Like most civilians in a war zone they ARE innocent victims but in some ways they themselves are responciable. THEY gave their concent to the Lebonese governmont to stand by and do nothing about Hezbollah in their country by not speaking out or if necessary taking taking up arms and driving both the terrorist and the government out of THEIR country. They could have done this at anytime during the last 40 years. THEY DID NOTHING. Now it is too late to do anything but hunker down and pray. WAR IS HELL ESPECIALLY FOR CIVILIANS. If you are going to condem someone condem the terrorist as well. If they were not there doing their thing there would not be any attacks. And before trying to whip up anti Israilie sentiment and pro terrorist take a good look at the pictures yourself and ask “What if Hezbolla was not here?” And for the record I am not Jewish nor am I a non-thinking supporter of Isreal and all of her actions. I don’t but if someone punches me in the mouth several times don’t get between me and them because if you do YOU are going to get hurt. That is what Lebanon has done
July 24th, 2006 at 8:43 pm
Charles Adams,
Let us, for your objectivity, present the following.
* Just yesterday, 2 Red Cross vehicules were hit ‘directly’ by israeli misslies.
* Last week, a bus transporting refugees was bombed and the result was 18 deaths, mostly women and very young children. The bus was transporting those innocent people from what was their village to a ’safer’ place.
The examples are numerous, and I’m sure, in pictures above you’ve seen how Israel ‘directly’ hit a truck carrying young children, they were all burned to death.
May all innocent people rest in peace, wherever they may be.
Israel has obviously bombed non-hezbulla targets; no one can argue with that. (see hospitals, red cross vehicules, media offices, TV broadcasting stations, LBC and others [non-Hezbulla media. In fact, some argue LBC was anti-hezbulla, but that’s beside the point])
Is Israel bombing all those civilian targets to teach the Lebanese population a lesson? Supporting Hezbulla will get you killed?
Is the Israeli government trying to force Lebanon and its people to change their political tendencies?
Let’s transition directly to the definitions of terrorism:
1. the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
2. The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
Your call,
A.D.
July 24th, 2006 at 8:46 pm
To Dani
No of course you wouldnt read Micael Moore …… Because you dont want to know the truth of your secular education. The truth may offend your secular beliefs. Yes I have no doubt in my mind that suicide bombers have brought great carnage to the Israeli people. But do not also turn a blind eye to what Israel has been and continues to do to the Palestinians and now AGAIN the Lebanese. You say Israel just wants the right to exist. That is not just what Israel wants it also wants to erradicate the middle east of any arabs and those that oppose its oppression of the Palestinian people. You can sugar coat it any way you want, but Israel has been the cause of MOST of the problems in the Middle East while being fully funded and backed by the US. You talk of suicide bombers in Israel …… we all know that they kill and maim innocent people and they are called terrorist ……… But what will you call Israel for its devastation on Lebabon and its people. This attack is not about two captured Israeli soldiers, the father of one of these captures sodliers has pleaded that this carnage not be attached to his son. He is as appalled by Israel supposed response to this the same way a lot of people in the world have ……. with utter DISGUST. Israel has made a lot of enemies in this WAR they initiated on innocent people. And I dont doubt that it also has gained a lot of friends as well. But anyone who can look at the devastation its has caused in Lebanon and still be proud of the Israeli government …. has no SOUL. I am not saying that there is no blame to Hezballah or anyother militia fighting in this BLOODY and SENSELESS war. But if Israel is such a caring nation …… then why has it set out to destroy the Lebanese infrastructure and economy. As I said you can sugar coat it all you want ……….. but the truth, for those who still have a SOUL is there for the world to see
July 24th, 2006 at 9:02 pm
To Dani
Two wrongs will never make a right …… And in the eyes of those of us who still care about humanity Israel is the greater wrong in this situation. The leaders of these nations (and many others) send their young men out to WAR to kill and maim the enemy and be killed, while they sit in the compfort and safety of their offices surrounded by their own secuirty forces, giving out orders of HATE and DECIET. I do not hate Israelies, I do not hate the americans, I do not hate any people …… But I do DETEST the utter BS that these governments are trying to sell to those who are too weak and too scared to see the TRUTH for what it is. Their need for power over all others is the main objective of these two governments in particular. Yes I do know that there are many other nations on this earth who are after the same thing ……. But we are talking about Israel and the US in this conflict ……. So dont start nameing other countries who have evil agendas …… the list will go on forever. May you find a little compassion in your heart for the innocent Lebanese and Palestinians who are been slaughtered by your heros. I know that my compassion goes and sorrow goes out to any people who die at the hands of evil governments
July 24th, 2006 at 9:25 pm
I was hoping I would never gaze upon the name Michael Moore.
I don’t like what’s going on between Lebanon and Israel and think it should stop. I don’t like all the crap that’s going down in the Middle-East in general. But I cannot stand Michael Moore as an individual.
I’ve never seen a bigger attention whore.
Israel should not be shelling innocent civilians, but Lebanon shouldn’t have sat around with their thumb up their ass while a militant group eggs on a dangerous border nation either.
No one is more to blame than the other.
Either Israel needs to stop on their own volition, or Lebanon needs to stand up and DO something.
July 24th, 2006 at 10:37 pm
RITA UR THE DAMN CRIMINAL wat the hell is wrong with u damn people STOP STOP STOP BLAMING THEM IT’S NOT NONES FAULTS IT’S NOT THEIR FAULT.
ANTI I’M GONNA SHUT U UP U TOOK IT TO FAR ORIGHT SO U BETTER SHUT UP YA I SAID THAT WAT ISRAEL DON’T WANTA HURT NOBODY ALL BULL SHIT BULL SHITLET LEBANON GIVE BAK THE 2 SOLDIERS! LET ISRAEL GOVE BAK THE 10,000 innocent people AND STOP KILLINING INNOCENT PEOPLE NAD STOP DESTROYING LEBANON, PALESTINE,IRAQ ALL THE MIDDLE EST LET THEM STOP DOING THAT ALSO LET THEM STOP SLOGHTERING KIDS,INFANITS,ADULTS, and torchiring them and destroying their house and let them stop KIDNAPPING INNOCENT PEOPLE AND KILLING THEM AND LEAVE THE MIDDLE EAST ALONE ANTI u have no heart go to hell rn’t u lookin at those pictures i bet u wen u saw those pictures u started to laugh and smurk but u kno wat GO TO HELL and i’m a 100% sure u will u have alwayz one every war do u want a craker or a cookie? to lebanon u and ur country esepeciallt u all u guys r the biggest looser and lebanon is alwayz a winner and will alwayz be i can’t wait to see u burn in HELL I CAN’T WAIT I WISH U DIEEEEEEEEEEEE tonight.today,tomarrow,really muslims r living in israel that ur imagination that will never happen and ANTI ANSER THIS QUESTION FOR ME
Y WERE THE 2 SOLDIERS IN LEBANON ANWAY ?WAT WERE THEY DOING?
in lebanon americans isrealies jews cristians they all live in lebanon and we will always welcome them alwayz but never welcome israelies never never in amillion years, by the way all the americans love lebanon and r with lebanon against lsrael HA HA HA whos laughint there ass of now ha AND MAYBE ISRAEL HELPING THEM BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS HAVE A PLAN AND R SUCKUPS AND THINK THEY ALL THAT BUT GUESS WAT THEY ALL PECE OF SHITSS YA THEY RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR MOST OF THEM BUT I WANTED TO THANK THE ISRAELIES THAT SAID GOOD THINGS ABOUT LEBANON AND THIS DOESN’T GO TO THE GOOD ISRAELIES ONLY THE BAD ONES THANXS AGAIN ISRAELIES THAT R ON THE GOOD SIDE I’M NOT SAYING UR SUPPOSED TO BE WITH LEBANON BUT ALWAYZ BE WITH WHO EVER IS RIGHT AND I KNOW 99.999999 PEOPLE R WITH LEBANON I WANT SEE WATCH YA GONNA SAT ABOUT THAT HA
OH YA FROM WERE DID ISRAEL GET THERE LAND?
FROM WHO DID THEY STEEL THE LAND??
HOW MANY PEOPLE DID THEY KILL TO GET THAT LAND?
HOW MANY HOUSE DID THEY DESTROY TO GET THAT LAND?
HOW MANY TOWNS DID THEY DESTROY TO GET THAT LAND?
YA I THOUGH SO WE ALWAYZ RIGHT SO SHUT UR ASS UP….. U DON’T GOT NOTIN TO SAY BECAUSE WE LEBENEZE R ALWAYSZ RIGHT AND R ALWASY WINNERS NO MATTER WAT THE HELL HAPPENS WE R ALWASY WINNERS
GIVE UR LIBERT OR GIVE US DEATH
PEACE TO THE MIDDLE EAST
July 24th, 2006 at 10:38 pm
This is a shameless face of Humanity.
July 24th, 2006 at 10:59 pm
Give it a thought.
As the dusk faded into bright
The hungry birds took their flight
The cultured human started their fight
In the Nature “Touch me not” does lie
I ask a question , is it a lie?
Here the people are made to die
illuminated is the night
Mother and children have fondled tight
As death is wondering in their sight
Come out of the dark and watch it live
How the innocents are burnt alive
How the children plead for life
Stop it! Stop it ! is the cry
Cried so much ,the eyes are dry
If not us, then who shall try
Do not sit and watch on the bay
This is what Abullah wants to say
Give it a thought,don’t go astary
Terrorising the childrens and the common humans , this is what you term as “TERRORISM”. Now peep into your own self, Your Media, your policies, your plans, your lust at the cost of our lifes , our childrens , our land, our heritage.
Let Almighty Allah (S.W.T) have mercy on the lebanese and entire human race and safe us from the cult of these cowards who are dressed in disguise.
” The Sun which rises will definetly sets”. (Inshallah)
July 24th, 2006 at 11:25 pm
Dear Muslims Brothers
This only bcoz of that we are out of way what ALLAH and Holy Prophet Muhammed PBUH told us, if we follow that way no one can raise even a finger on us.
Pls come back on the way to keep safe and successfull urself in this world as well as after this world life (After Death).
And I also request to Non Muslim Countries that fights and wars are not solution of conflicts. These conflicts can be resolved through discussion. And Pls stop the wars.
God Bless the souls of those who died and those who are facing the death everyday.
Thanks
Fareed Kamran
Islamabad Pakistan
July 25th, 2006 at 12:10 am
Shame on the people who are responsible of the death of innocent children!
The rich people evacuated paying some amount but these who are killed are poor & innocent who cant afford.
July 25th, 2006 at 12:33 am
I can’t believe these from a human being…
July 25th, 2006 at 12:33 am
May Allah Have His Curse on Israel, Usa, & all people who Support Such Distruction.
May all Lebanese people be at the mercy of Allah the most gracious, the most merciful.
I hope that this give All the Muslim & Arab Leaders that please wakeup from your long time sleep. Otherwise may allah will punish you in dunya & in a’ghira
July 25th, 2006 at 12:39 am
At first i thought that hiziballah maybe started this ,but by the first bomb on lebanon i was ashamed of even thinking it. PLZ wake up and see that hiziballah is for lebanon and not against it . not only for the lebanese but all the arabs,ISREAL is the enemy,ISREAL is killing children, women all innocents..not as a matter of defense but as an act of hate.its discusting. all those civilians aren’t driving around in whatever means of transportation with a target board on top daring isrealis to hit the target..i don’t care for how the isrealis treated lebanon before,look what its doing now.bombing homes villages hospitals..need i go on?? it hit the UN why??its hitting the red cross buses why??for goodness sakes it hit a canadian ship transporting not hiziballah or weapons but civilians. WHY?? so stop all the bull about isreal being attacked by terrorrists..they are nothing but..and to all those blaming hiziballah and want them destroyed..tell me what will u do once isreal starts inching their way into lebanon claiming peace? tell me its ok if ur country has no means of defense and that u will all live happily ever after in a country where lebs would be loving neighbours to those who are literally tearing apart innocents.. stop the bs and open ur eyes to beyond that favorate cafe that was destroyed (as some ignorant ppl think) by the hizib..GOD BLESS LEBANON, ALL THE PPL WHO DESERVE IT, HIZIBALLAH AND OF COURSE AL SEYED HASSAN. ALLAH YERHAM AMWATKUN, SHUHADA LIBNAN…WA ALLAH YEDEE ALJAMEE3..
July 25th, 2006 at 12:51 am
In reply to everyone,
Besmellah Al Rahman Al Raheem “wala ta7sibanna allazina kotilo fee sabeelel lahi amwata bal a7ya2o 3inda rabbihem yorzaqon” Sadaqa allaho all3aliyo al 3azeem
Besmellah Al Rahman Al Raheem “Ez taqoulo lilmo2minina alan yakfidom an yomiddakom rabbakom b thalathati alafin minal mala2ekati monzaleen, bala in tasbiro watattaqo waya2toukom min fawrihim haza yomdidkom rabbokom b khamsati alafin minal mala2ekati mosawwimin…. wama alnasro ella min 3indi allahi al3azizi al7akim” Sadaqa allaho all3aliyo al 3azeem
As Al Sayyed Hassan Said: Annasro atin atin atin inshallah”
July 25th, 2006 at 12:56 am
I ;M Pakistan & all Pakistan people with you lebanan god belss you all….
GOD HELP U LEBNAN
July 25th, 2006 at 1:09 am
This is the Price that Lebanon is paying for harbouring , terrorists like Hezbolah , the hezbolah should be thrown out of the country and should , leave Lebanon alone . May God Help lebanon
July 25th, 2006 at 1:13 am
I strongly protest against the Israeli attacks on Lebanon…… THe leaders of Muslim World should now unite and stop Israel from this WAR.
It was rightly said by Mr. Muhammad Ali Jinnah (Founder of Pakistan)……”Israel is the illegitimate child of the West”
July 25th, 2006 at 1:15 am
Webmaster - whilst any death is to be lamented, reports are coming out from experienced war correspondents that they are surprised that the death toll of “civilians” is not greater given the past two weeks of shelling by Israel.
Maybe this is due to Israel trying as best they can to limit their attacks to specific targets or may be it is due to Israel dropping leaflets in advance warning of an impending attack to give residents a chance to leave - can’t reacall ever Hezbollah or Hamas or the PLO for that matter ever giving a warning before shooting a rocket towards Haifa or blowing up a cafe. Do you?
As to numbers and pictures, I am not going to play that game but below is just some examples of what Israelis have had to contend with over the past 6 years:
June 25, 2006 - Eliahu Asheri, 18, of Itamar, was kidnapped by Palestinian terrorists from the Popular Resistance Committees while hitchhiking from Betar Illit, southwest of Bethlehem, to Neveh Tzuf, where he was studying. His body was found on June 29 in Ramallah. Israeli Authorities believe Asheri was murdered by his captors shortly after his kidnapping.
April 17, 2006: Nine people were killed and at least 40 wounded in a suicide bombing near the old central bus station in Tel Aviv. The blast ripped through Falafel Rosh Ha’ir, the same restaurant that was hit by an attack on January 19. The Islamic Jihad and Fatah’s Al Aksa Martyrs Brigades both claimed responsibility for the attack. The Hamas led PA government defended the suicide bombing, calling it an act of “self-defense.” Hamas official spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri called the attack “a natural result of the continued Israeli crimes against our people”.
March 30, 2006: Four people were killed in a suicide bombing outside Kedumim in the northern West Bank. The Al-Aksa Martyrs Brigades took responsibility for the attack.
January 19, 2006: At least 30 people were injured in a suicide bombing near the old central bus station in southern Tel Aviv. Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.
December 29, 2005: Three people were killed - two Palestinian civilians and an Israeli soldier - in a suicide bombing at a checkpoint near Tulkarm. The suicide bomber was apparently planning to target one of the many children’s events taking place in Tel Aviv for the Hanukkah holiday, but was stopped at the checkpoint. Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.
December 5, 2005: Five people were killed and more than 50 others injured in a suicide bombing at the entrance of a shopping mall in Netanya. Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.
October 26, 2005: Six people were killed and 55 wounded in a suicide bombing in an outdoor market in the town of Hadera. Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.
October 16, 2005: Palestinian gunmen killed three Israelis and wounded as least 5 others in two separate drive-by shootings in the West Bank. The Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for both attacks.
August 28, 2005: A suicide bombing outside the Central Bus Station in Beersheba severly injured two security guards who stopped the bomber from entering the bus station. Islamic Jihad and Al Aksa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.
And you wonder why Israel took action two weeks ago !!! Against a group who has vowed to destroy Israel.
July 25th, 2006 at 1:20 am
johnson…such a typical redneck american excuse to justify isreals actions. most of u americans didnt know where lebanon is on the map..now you impose these philosophical views and explanations? deal with the fact that there’s a resistance brave enough to face isreal and the american tactics of so called justice. the western world readily labels what it doesnt understand of groups,armies and what not as “terrorists” just to simplify things for those not as bright…those that targeted the states directly are considered true terrorists ..(they had and probably have still close relations to the american government. )
Hisballah sticks to resisting a direct threat to them.(isreal).
AND for those that think hisballah hides behind civilians..they are civilians!! the armed hisballa men r in isolated areas..do u honestly think they fire missiles from the nearest cafe?
July 25th, 2006 at 1:29 am
Besmellah Al Rahman Al Raheem “wala ta7sibanna allazina kotilo fee sabeelel lahi amwata bal a7ya2o 3inda rabbihem yorzaqon” Sadaqa allaho all3aliyo al 3azeem
ان شاء الله سيأتى يوم ينتصر فيه المسلمين على الكفرة وهذا قريب ان شاء الله
قلوبنا معكم فى هذة المحنة نريد الشهادة فى سبيل اللة
ليفيق الحكام العرب من غفلتهم قبل فوات الاوان
فوقوا ايها المتكالبين على الدنيا
July 25th, 2006 at 1:31 am
WAKE UP MUSLIM NATIONS —WAKE UP
the bad words from these innocent targetted people will surely reach ALLAH and Israelis have to bear the consequences…
May ALLAH have mercy on Lebanon and vanish Israel from the face of Earth. Such a country has no right to exist.
July 25th, 2006 at 1:40 am
Muslims unity can not be possible until Muslims themselves follow and lead their lives according to the Islam. We call our selves muslims but everyone of us try to manage our lives according to western culture. With this mentality we have to tolerate the attacks of these filthy maniacs until we come on right track and this is the track which Allah and his prophet defines and it is in Quran and hadiths also. And whenever we are on that track I assure you that no power stand in front of us. Be a muslim and live like muslim who live for sacrifice lives on the name of Islam.
May God guide us.
July 25th, 2006 at 1:47 am
only 1 thing i can sat is …allah ll never ever forgive dem…inshaallah..amen…
July 25th, 2006 at 1:56 am
When muslims leaves the commands of ALLAH the Almighty and thigs that are forbidden for them becomes habbit of people , when woman starts exposing themselves and this does not affect the islamic idealogy of the muslims of that country then nobody can stop the punishment from ALLAH. I think this has been the case with lebnon. When i saw there woman i am unable to distinguish that this is a muslim country. I think if still we all put our heads in front of ALLAH and say Tooba for what we have done we can stop this. Remember nobody can help without ALLAH the Almighty.
May Allah do for us what is best for us
July 25th, 2006 at 2:00 am
And it is this type of fundamentalist talk which will ensure there is no peace in the middle east. It also shows very clearly where those who follow this philosophy stand in regards to accepting the right of Israel to exist.
July 25th, 2006 at 2:00 am
ALLAH will never forgive the un-responsible arabian governments, who stick to their chairs watching Lebanon bleeding like that.
they will be reported in the dirty pages of the history as TRAITORS
July 25th, 2006 at 2:28 am
This is the Alarm for the Whole Human Race. Lest wake up and destroy Terrorism completely throughout the World.
Warning have been raised. Lets wake up!!….
July 25th, 2006 at 2:55 am
ALI…….In case you dont already know this Lebanon is not a muslim country …… It is fundamentaly a christian country …… But that is beside the point. Christians, Muslims, Jews, whatever ….. people who have blind faith in the teachings of their religion are the ones being used as puppets in all conflicts. Most conflicts are based on religious issues. I am not an athiest. I do believe in GOD (and there is only one, no matter what name you pray to). Many attrocities have been commited over many centuries by various faiths ……. All in the name of their GOD and they call upon him for protection from the enemy. The only GOD that I believe in is a GOD of LOVE and UNDERSTANDING, GOD wants us to love our enemies and treat them how we ourselves would be treated. The thing to remember Oh ye of blind faith …….. your religious books and doctrines were written by mere men with their own agendas in this world. The only way to abolish war for good is to ban organised religion …….. Because it is those religions that all terrorist of human life refer to when they want to go out and do GODS will by destroying innocent children and people who have no issues with them personally, but they just happen to be in the firing line of immature boys and men who want to control the world for their religious rightousness ………. Bah Humbug.
PS: to Dani How long has your family lived in Israel or do you even live in Israel
July 25th, 2006 at 3:03 am
Muslims are sleeping from a long long time and government are sensless
something going to happend in near future bcz this kind of things can never be forgetten and muslims are still sellping and waiting some thing will happend maracle will come help them bcz every muslim is thinking what only he can do is pray bcz he can’t do anything bcz our beleives our seenses are no more usefull. ALLAH HELP THEM and how the childrens and peoples are mytired there something will heppend
July 25th, 2006 at 3:32 am
What has where I live got to do with anything? Actually I live on the coast in Queensland, Australia, not that it matters.
I am one of those people who is happy to see all countries and nations exist - I don’t have a problem with Lebanon, Syria, Eqypt, Jordan or even Iran exisiting, and why should I?
I do, however, have a problem when minority/fundamental/terrorist groups try to take over or use their host country for non-peaceful means against other countries.
By the way, did you know before Khomeine came to power that Iran and Israel enjoyed cordial relations, that there was regular trade between the two countries and that there was two way tourism without any problems? That’s what happens when two countries live in peace with each other and recognise each others right to exist without question.
Should also add that the peace agreement between Egypt and Israel has also led to an increase in tourist traffic between both countries and that certainly can only help the local economy.
Just as there has been relative peace between Israel and Egypt and Syria where incidentally there are buffer zones that are properly monitored and enforced, so will that happen in Southern Lebanon when a buffer zone is created in the coming days. If Lebabnon can’t or won’t control terror activity from its land into Israel then someone will have to come in and do it for them. It’s that simple.
July 25th, 2006 at 3:59 am
I strongly protest against the Israeli attacks on Lebanon.The leaders of Muslim World should now unite and stop Israel from this WAR.
It was rightly said by Mr. Muhammad Ali Jinnah (Founder of Pakistan)……”Israel is the illegitimate child of the West”
This is the Alarm for the Whole Human Race. Lest wake up and destroy Terrorism completely throughout the World.
This only bcoz of that we are out of way what ALLAH and Holy Prophet Muhammed PBUH told us, if we follow that way no one can raise even a finger on us.
July 25th, 2006 at 4:18 am
This is the result of fundamentalism and cruelty perpetrated by both the sides. The world has to wake up now and stop the Jehadis and Israel before it gets very late. India my country is also suffering, so many innocent lives were lost due to bomb blasts by muslim militants but we have shown restraint. Though we may not be able to hold that too long. Kashmir is next after middle east. WAKE UP WORLD.
July 25th, 2006 at 4:26 am
Hola Escribo esto en español se que muchos no ve van a entender, pero quiero decirles a todos que vivieron estos momentos que comparto su dolor, soy mexicano…que Allah siempre los bendiga!!!! el es muy grande y el sabe lo que esta haciendo!!!
Les dejo algo que escribi….
Aquellos que continúen empecinados perecerán. Nadie pregunte cómo, pero así ocurrirá.
Luego de la oscuridad llega la luz y es hora de que en la Tierra reine la LUZ. No estamos solos en el Universo la vida se halla esparcida por doquier pero hemos aprendido mal las lecciones.
No hay retorno: Dios no juega a los dados, el destino tampoco. Todo aquello que atente contra la LIBERTAD INTERIOR será humo.
La mayoría de las psicografías realizadas, hacían expresa mención al medio oriente, a quien veía como una tierra de promisión para los eventos futuros, y los países limítrofes, no sin antes pasar por durísimas pruebas.Debido a los acontecimientos actuales de suma gravedad que esta viviendo Libano, creemos que es importante prestar atención a algunas de dichas profecías.
Guillermo Mezeta
July 25th, 2006 at 4:53 am
Only god who could stop Israeli
lets raise our hands and ask god for blessing and to end this attack
The leaders of Muslim World should now unite and stop Israel from this WAR. While every one of the leaders are looking for there seats we will never go one step forward.
yasser asaad
July 25th, 2006 at 4:55 am
damn jewish people. damn jewish people. damn jewish people. damn jewish people. damn jewish people. damn jewish people. damn israel.
damn israel damn israel damn israel damn israel damn israel damn israel damn israel damn israel damn israel
July 25th, 2006 at 5:05 am
que dieu reserve le LIBAN, et qu’israel se finit à l’enfer
July 25th, 2006 at 5:15 am
Hamad - I guess I will put you down on the list of those wanting to see the destruction of Israel with those highly intelligent comments.
July 25th, 2006 at 5:35 am
Смерть Израилю-должен быть не арабским, а мировым призывом.
July 25th, 2006 at 6:12 am
My heart bleeds for all the innocent lives lost and the suffering of those who survive this atrocity. May Allah (SWT) give us the courage to finally finish once and for all the evil which is ISRAEL. It is about time that the Saudis, Egyptians, Jordanians, Syrains wake up. Pakistan should send a couple of NUKES to destroy the evils from the face of this earth.
July 25th, 2006 at 6:15 am
WHO WILL STOP ISRAEL AND AMERICA?
MUSLIMS WILL SUFFER UNTILL THEN.
GOD BLESS THE LEBANESE PEOPLE.
July 25th, 2006 at 6:21 am
cant believe people can be so ruthless in 21st century…we wanna live a civilised and modern life…..and we bahave like ANIMALs…Its disgusting on Israeli part….
July 25th, 2006 at 6:39 am
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July 25th, 2006 at 6:39 am
these images are absolutely heartbreaking and very sad.where’s all the arabs to help the lebanese people?nobody in any life time should have to live through anything like this mess.where’s the americans,they always talk about democracy,where are they now?please god let this bloodshed STOP!!!!!!!
July 25th, 2006 at 6:44 am
Israel has a good place in the history and the bible will it remain the same??????
O My God! where is that Israel ?????
Victor
India.
July 25th, 2006 at 7:54 am
Blame Israel all you want. Until you accept Israel’s right to exist without the constant threat of attack and suicide bombings this cycle of violence will continue.
The sooner Israel is accepted the sooner a Palestinian state will be created and the sooner will peace come to the region.
You don’t need to be Einstein (forgive me for the comparison to a Jew) to work this out, but you do need to have a little intelligence and be able to see past all the propaganda and brainwashing that a militant few are spreading to achieve their own agenda at the expense of peaceful coexistence between all people in the Middle East.
July 25th, 2006 at 7:56 am
Peace will happen in the Middle East only when every muslim is dead. They all worship dead so lets give it to them.
July 25th, 2006 at 8:04 am
Israel is doing this war against Lebanon for “2 captured soldiers”. But, in this war, lots of strangers ( canadian, norwegian, brazilian, etc, etc, etc ) was killed. Aren’t we meant to fight a war against Israel too? Could be called “War against Irracionality”. Non-sense has a limit, and lifes can’t be lost because of extremism.
Peace, milords, peace. Please.
Adriano.
July 25th, 2006 at 8:05 am
davdjb you should be ashamed of what ever you are saying. You will know who will be dead, when all jews will be burnt in the fire of there own and will be removed from the face of the earth. The time is near for the final combat and will be won by the muslims
July 25th, 2006 at 8:12 am
may allah help the people of leaobnan form the evil hands
July 25th, 2006 at 8:14 am
Come all to Brazil… here we live in peace with Arabs and Israeli people all together!!!
July 25th, 2006 at 8:14 am
God help Lebanon. But no matter wat happens, how how much of us die, we are still the winners. cuz god is with us. Die Israel… Everything that is happening to us will happens to you. And quit using these two soldiers as an excuse, cuz we have over 9,000 prizoners in ur prizons. And this war will not end until these prizoners are set free. And you will not get the amunition of hizbullah. cuz after all” ala ina hizbullah humu al ghalibeen”
July 25th, 2006 at 8:20 am
How the hell does Israeil have the right to exist?? And even if they do, y not get their own land to live on? y take over the arab countries?? Oh and by the way, davdjb, lets c wat who is gonna die. Cuz the only way to have peace in this world, is by destroying every living jew on this earth. and peace will come
July 25th, 2006 at 8:31 am
The most disturbing part is that people who are getting murdered are IT.
An my tv says the people who are murdering are VICTIMS.
The history repeats.
The lies repeats.
The people reading, nodding and doing nothing repeats.
You watched Michael dunk,
you watched Tiger hit,
you watched Lance ride,
you watch and admire those who do great things,
and you still watch, and you watch more.
Maybe that it the most disturbing thing of all.
This is happening to us. Us is you.
Me, we – Ali at Harvard.
If someone approaches you on the parking lot and attacks you?
What do you do?
You are a victim, aren’t you?
But if you see someone approaches your sister and attacks her?
What do you do?
Still feel victim or
you do not care, you are ready to fight.
What happened within you?
Those people murdered are someone’s sisters and brothers.
What do you do?
I will tell you what to do?
Go watch a movie.
Go repeat what you have been doing so far.
Go collect money so when you are old you can travel around the world.
Go watch more tv so you never think that you could have traveled
while you were young, and actually enjoy the countries visited,
run on new roads, swim in new rivers, dance in new clubs,
instead just holding onto a cane and going to bathroom every hour.
Go watch more tv so you are not mad when you are old.
You should be walking the street and those successful business people
should hide when you walk. They need police to defend them
from honest people. They need lawyers and armies to protect their life style.
They live in fear. The word free has a different meaning for you and them.
Life is not fair!
Ooohh you have discovered something new.
You are wasting body and mind you have.
You can do thing with great impact. Not doing it, that is not fair.
You dumb fuck.
Now you want to write and respond to me.
I just wrote things down and you are offended.
People have been murdered and you are doing nothing about that
but my opinion deserves your time and action.
I am not talking to women,
this is for the men,
has nothing to do with your size or your job,
it has nothing to do with your accomplishments,
nothing with your inability to do something,
nothing to do with your fear,
you think you cannot do much about this,
you know others will not listen,
you know everything will be the same in a year.
Well time to be a man, and the reason you got mad at me is
because you are not. Make a decision while you have the inspiration.
Make a decision you will distinguish right from wrong.
Not to the best of your abilities, you are doing it now.
But to do the best of human potential.
You are capable as Michael, as Tiger, as Lance, but of what?
Those guy know they are not man because they are the best in the world.
They are man when the action is needed and they are not sure they
are up to it.
Are you up to it?
It is time for disdain.
Look up this word man.
It is time for you to learn. People will dye in the mean time.
You keep learning and keep track who did what.
You keep learning and you will get your chance to act.
But now, now it is time to admit that you feel disdain toward murders.
They are not IT.
Logic and arguments will help you defend and rationalize any position,
Greeks went through it 3000 year ago and admitted disdain
toward people who argue to their way for the sake of being right.
We all did or are doing it, some mature earlier some later.
But when you loose that logic, when you lose a lawyer in you,
when you lose a banker in you, when you lose a miser in you,
when you wake up a poet, when you start feeling life,
when your instincts are recognized,
when looking at a human being on tv is not journalism,
then you will feel disdain toward an act of murder,
then you are you realize the human being in you,
then kicks in all you have learned,
then you never go back,
you do not go back to being inhuman.
V
July 25th, 2006 at 8:44 am
Stop this war! Stop every war on World!
Why people killing people… for religion?
Don t kill Innocents childrens!!!
Please, stop this absurdly killing…
THNX.
From Slovakia, Bratislava.
July 25th, 2006 at 9:07 am
War is not pretty, we all know that and I feel for the people of Lebanon…I also am glad I don’t live in Isreal under the threat of angry, violent jewish haters……my thoughts come from having lived with a shiite Muslim man for several years in Cananda…many are racist,suspicious or hate jews and anybody who are not Muslim… ignorance is everywhere.. many grew up with war and are unbalanced…some uneducated mothers instilled hatred in the hearts of their children..
Maybe education of your muslim girls is key?
I don’t know but from what I learned…things are not going to change unless young Muslims are taught tolerance, acceptance, brotherly love..of all, that means non-muslim as well!
There is no easy solution…Peace for all needs to be the goal
July 25th, 2006 at 10:43 am
بسم الله الرحمان الرحيم
و لا تحسبن الزين قتلوا في سبيل الله امواتا بل هم احياء عند ربهم يرزقون.
صدق الله العظيم
July 25th, 2006 at 10:51 am
very touching… but, hey, why did you forget to post photos of civilian israeli victims? oh, i got it - nobody of you, antisemits, care for them… you want israeli to put down their defence so hezbollah will continue to louch rockets. this is just hypocrisy.
July 25th, 2006 at 11:04 am
F*** all arabs and chechenians!!! God job Israel!!
July 25th, 2006 at 11:08 am
I see all of these atrocities being commited in the “name of God” by the “chosen people of israel.” How blind and ignorant must a civilization be to realize that killing babies and destroying life is not what any god would want. It doens’t matter if your god goes by Allah, Jesus, Buddah, or Steve. God is what you make of him, and if you take up a rifle to kill in the name of god, you are a hypocrit. We should lay down our weapons and pick up our children, and our enemies children and learn and teach love and forgiveness and humanity. Not in the name of god or in the name of the holy land, but in the name of man. The killing in Lebanon has to end. The killing in Iraq has to end. The killing in Israel has to end.
July 25th, 2006 at 11:12 am
Arabs - they’re all stupid animals and terrorists!! Stupid dumbs!! Freaks! Scums!
RUSSIA!!!
July 25th, 2006 at 11:25 am
This issue needs to be resolved before it continues to escalate into a war which involves the entire region. The IDF (Israeli Defence Forces), claim to be making ‘pin-poin’ precise tactical strikes YET they justify the attacks on a Hospital, An Ambulance, A medical convoy, Fleeing Cars who followed Israelis Instruction and Even areas where there is not Muslim population.
Here is the immediate steps which need to be taken for the future of the two countries involved.
1- Immediate Cease Fire
2- Prisoner Negotiations
3- Foreign Force to Monitor Border
4- Integrate Hezbollah Guerillas into the Lebanese National Army
5- Impose ‘STRICT’ weapon laws in the south of lebanon
6- Disarmament of Hezbollah
7- Israel compensation of ‘collateral’ damage as a result of the unjust disproportionate reaction.
-If Hezbollah is disarmed then Israel will have to take up the roles which they do in the southern lebanon including rebuilding the damaged infrastructure, rebuilding the lebanese economy, especially the capita lost in tourism (tourism accounts for 22% of the countries annual GDP!!).
This may not be directly beneficial but it will ‘pave the way’ for overall peace in the region. (Otherwise this hatred will just continue and anti-semitism will rise).
July 25th, 2006 at 11:31 am
God save humanity. Let’s pray for the innocent souls which had to suffer for the stupid behavior of some power headed dickheads. No government can justify killing innocent people.
July 25th, 2006 at 11:37 am
These pictures are not published in American News cause they are controlled by BUSH regime dirty stolen money. They are the biggest tax evaders there in their country. Stolen oil from Irak is used to make them more rich with secret bank accounts in some countries. I used to be an admirer of Journalism but not anymore. Edited news are manipulated so the so called “democracy” is just to protect their fortunes. Only watch live news but they dont show anything. My theory is somebody from the west has planned this division among muslims so they kill between each other. This is racism and the kingdom of racism is in USA. Look at how they are holding the illegal aliens reform. The republicans (the most racists) dont like hispanics/latinos so you people from this race dont ever join military there. They will put you in front line cause they dont care for poor people. They only care for the rich which are a few but God is killing them one by one with natural disasters (look at heat wave now). But this is my conclusion of the middle east, it is racism happenning and only the current leaders are just being bribed millions to stay quiet. Look at PAKISTAN, do you think there is a democracy there?..bullshit but elections are just frauds. Open your eyes people, only the dumb people watch news. Intelligent ones look at internet and they want to control this also. God bless the lebanon
July 25th, 2006 at 11:47 am
man dats why we all r here 2 kill ourselves only…..hell wid doz people who r doing dis ; after doing alldis wat dey r getting ????? da rest of da world shud give dem da same treatment so dat dey can fell wat these innocent people r feeling…………..
July 25th, 2006 at 12:07 pm
Please people, we need people in this website= www.ragingbull.com, go to “GOV” board which is government cause they are talking bad about arabs.
July 25th, 2006 at 12:26 pm
The Zionist movement was, is and will be the most racist movement in the world. They are the chosen people. They will never accept conditions from a bunch of lebaneses. They are the chosen ones not you.
The Zionist state violated 68 and more UN resolutions. Nothing can stop them except one thing…money.
They killed Jesus Christ and you know what they say about our Mother Mary. How much do you think they care about you?
May God hasten the appearence of Jesus Christ.
July 25th, 2006 at 12:26 pm
i wish there was a kind of power to punish these israeli blood suckers until ALLAH takes over the punishing task.
July 25th, 2006 at 1:03 pm
There is no more peace in that world until Israel is annihilated. InshaAllah, Allah will show us that day when israel is annihilated…
Allah bless Lebanon, Palestine..Peace Upon them…
July 25th, 2006 at 1:12 pm
I feel so sorry for these innocent children, who gave their life to their country. why can’t the United states speak up now. where is UN?
& where are the people who talk about 9/11? who many 9/11 happened in Lebanan & palastine?
But they don’t care because it’s muslim lives.
May allah bless these peopple who gave their lives in this massacare jennatul firdous.
let him give the punishment for US,& israel
July 25th, 2006 at 1:54 pm
As of 24th, our Secretary of State visited Beirut, stating that the U.S. will be starting humanitarian aid to Lebanon.
However, as long as the Hezbollah continue their attacks on northern Israel, I don’t see them stopping. So this is where Lebanon needs to do something.
July 25th, 2006 at 3:27 pm
Why is it many of the posts above call for Allah to carry out the destruction of Israel and in the name of Allah, death to the Jews???
I don’t see Christians in the name of Jesus or Jews, in the name of their God calling for death and destruction of others.
This, unfortunately, is the essential difference.
July 25th, 2006 at 3:28 pm
Dear all lebanese people,
I feel what u are feeling right now.
My heart is crying just like yours.
But don`t forget that God is watching everything.
Have faith in him.
God bless you all.
I’ll pray 2 God 4 all Lebanese.
July 25th, 2006 at 3:46 pm
Out of interest, where is the medical aid and other aid from the rich Arab countries?? Conspicuous by its absence. The devilish, infidel known as the USA has started sending millions of dollars in aid but haven’t heard of any help from any muslim countries.
July 25th, 2006 at 3:51 pm
May Allah Have His Curse on Israel, Usa, & all people who Support Such Distruction.
May all Lebanese people be at the mercy of Allah the most gracious, the most merciful.
I hope that this give All the Muslim & Arab Leaders that please wakeup from your long time sleep. Otherwise may allah will punish you in dunya & in a’ghira
July 25th, 2006 at 4:04 pm
Why should WE see that, STOP THE WAR !!!
WHY THE INNOCENTS SHOULD SUFFER FOR THE STUPID BEHAVIOR OF THE POLITICIANS
PARE LA GUERRA .. ES ESTUPIDO QUE GENTE INOCENTE SUFRA POR MALOS ENTENDIDOS DE LOS POLITICOS
July 25th, 2006 at 4:57 pm
Dios todo poderoso les de paz y fortaleza a mis hermanos del Libano y los proteja de todo mal y peligro.
Hermanos Israelitas, secen de matar injustamente a seres inocentes e indefensos.
July 25th, 2006 at 5:17 pm
Dear Dani,
I couldn’t help notice your many comments and would just like to respond by saying, your comments are heard, but I completely disagree (too bad, b/c I really don’t want to be on your bad side and become the target of your cutting words). I disagree with your comments and found them to be cruel especially if I were Lebabanese and if my house and country had just been destroyed; I even consider your words abusive and rascist. For you to say that these civilian deaths are an adequate response to kidnappings and essential say that Lebanon only has itself to blame… I pity you and I find myself wanting to apologize for your abusive words.
Peace starts with you.
I pray you begin to know love in your heart.
July 25th, 2006 at 5:35 pm
Que DEUS proteja nossos irmãos Libaneses e Palestinos da ganancia dos maiores terroristas sanguinários do mundo, criminosos de guerras que são Israel e EUA.
July 25th, 2006 at 5:37 pm
Dios ampare a los niños, que de ellos es el reino, pequeños angelitos que son llamados al cielo,meditemos un poquito y tratemos de hacer conciencia!!
ok! adultos resuelvan sus diferencias entre ustedes que se despedasen , pero porque llevarse vidas inocentes!!!!!
rabia!! rencor~!!!!! ODIO!!!!! es lo que estas fotos dan, odio alos movimientos armados!! comandantes,generales!!!!! seran sus hijos despues y de ahy es que quisiera ver sus rostros……rostros que como el mio lloran lagrimas de sandre al ver como le roban la inocencia a bebe!!!
acepto mi realidad porque somos parte de este mundo tan salvaje….como quiera el reino salvaje somos!!!!!
~tykoUsa~
July 25th, 2006 at 6:21 pm
i know just 1 thing that is ” if u hate Israel so u also hated America ” because America support israel and this war is planned by America for finishing Iran and Syria and specially HIZBULLAH because these countries are with Lebonan and America knows that if Israel attack to Lebonan then Iran and Syria also come in the centre and America easily attack to Iran and Syria and blamming Terrorist to them like Iraq and Afghanistan but America doesn’t know this is Ali Khamenai (the great leader and the great REHBER) not Saddam or Usama bin laden or Mulla Umer.
I SALUTE TO HIZBULLAH keep going HIZBULLAH and finish Israel.
DOWN WITH AMERICA.
DOWN WITH ISRAEL.
DOWN WITH DENMARK.
DOWN WITH ENEMY OF IMAM MEHDI(a.s)
July 25th, 2006 at 6:50 pm
If America wanted this to start, how come Rice went to Beirut to pursue a long-lasting cease-fire? If America wants all this crap to happen, how come millions of dollars in relief is being sent to Lebanon?
Just because the United States agreed that Israel has the right to defend itself does not mean we agree that Israel should be obliterating civilians. That happens to be the reason we’re doing SOMETHING now.
I’m tired of conspiracy theorists that are out to blame everyone else. That there’s some grand scheme behind all their misfortune.
Israel is blowing the shit out of Lebanon and the Hezbollah are blowing the shit out of Israel.
Disarm or do SOMETHING about the Hezbollah and Israel no longer has an excuse (for those theorists out there), which in effect, if all those theories are true, would give Israel no reason to continue unless the accusations are correct.
But do not EVER be so bold as to associate America as being “Evil.” Americans complain that their nation bends over backwards to help other nations, gets flak, and because it focuses so hard on helping all those outside its borders, we get forgotten.
The American citizens are starting to take it in the ass because America is determined to make sure other nations’ citizens are getting as much help as possible. Last I checked, among many religions, self-sacrifice was an instant ticket to Heaven.
July 25th, 2006 at 8:17 pm
It is so sad, in this place that is supposed to show sympathy for those that are suffering, to see so much unbridled hatred and racism directed towards a people that have endured so long despite so much brutality and injustice directed towards them over thousands of years.
So many people here are shouting “Destroy Israel”, “Death to all the Jews in the world”, and so much like sentiments.
Yet they won’t give up just two prisoners to stop all this suffering which is so rightly deplored.
Forget the “jews”, you already believe them to be utterly evil. Your own very simple action can cause them to stop all of this instantly.
So why don’t you do this already?
Every day that you delay causes more suffering.
If you are all so innocent, why don’t you do this one simple thing?
It defies all logic and reason.
By the way, for all of you who think that Israel has no right to exist: learn a little history instead of ingesting only propoganda and lies.
But let’s engage in a little Socratic dialogue.
No one can deny that historically the Jewish people occupied and had for their homeland this place in the middle east that they now live in and call Israel. In fact, historical Israel was many, many times bigger than its current size.
And despite the fact that they were conquered and displaced many times, by Romans, or Christians or Muslims, a remnant, sometimes large, sometimes small, has remained there or in surrounding areas throughout all this time to the present day.
And, even those in Europe or elsewhere, held this land in their hearts and always dreamed of when they could return.
During the last couple hundred years, driven by pograms and racism everywhere else, this population of Jewish people has increased so that they are now a majority in this smallest sliver of land that was once their great nation.
Now, here’s where the socratic part comes in.
I think many of you believe that the palestinian people have more of a right to this land than the jewish people because they were there more recently.
Is this correct?
But if Israel keeps out the Palestinians for many years, when will their rights to this land expire?
50 years, 100 years, 500 years?
What’s that you say? Never?
Then why should the rights of the Jewish expire?
It is a simple matter of equal “justice”.
And it is ludicrous when you use religious justifications for all this.
Like the fairy tale of Mohammad riding his magic pony up to heaven from Jerusalem.
You would have the whole world believe this nonsense and deny the literally tons of stones beneath your feet which validate jewish claims.
But everywhere mohammad took a piss is “sacred” to the islamic world, every place he farted is “holy”.
And that this is the truest and most extreme form of idol worship none of you will ever see.
The saddest thing is that if the muslim world, from the start, had been gracious enough to welcome their jewish “brothers”, to grant them this smallest sliver of land where they could feel safe, then the entire region could have benefitted and prospered.
But, as I know from my own personal experience, the islamic world is never one of “peace”, but rather always one of stubborn hatred, intolerance, racism and injustice. This is why I found I had no choice but to renounce all this.
Cry all you want that this is not “true” islam, but it is ubiquitously the truth that is inherrant in the entire islamic world, almost without a single exception.
Just once I would like to see otherwise, just once…
July 25th, 2006 at 8:41 pm
Hi Jen and thank you for your prayers but I think they may be better directed to others who have posted here. And I don’t recall ever saying “that these civilian deaths are an adequate response to kidnappings”. I did, however, comment that if the Lebanese government and the Lebanese army can’t control extreme groups in their midst, then someone else will need to do it for them. I deplore death whether it be Jewish, Arab or Christian.
You, and others, would do well to read carefully the comments above of hafeez mohammad. Many valid points are made by Hafeez.
If Hezbollah were interested in stopping the fighting they would have returned the kidnapped soldiers and called for a cease-fire which would have put Israel into the difficult position of either agreeing to a cease-fire or continuing in rooting out Hezbollah as is the current situation.
In a way, Hezbollah by not returning the soldiers and continuing to fire rockets into Israel is doing Israel a favour and giving Israel the justification to keep going in its attempt to clean out Southern Lebanon of Hezbollah fighters and create a buffer zone which ultimately will be patrolled and controlled by some sort of international force.
July 25th, 2006 at 9:07 pm
Yo te ruego Padre mio por la inocencia de los justos que sufren la barbarie
de sus hermanos.
Yo te ruego Padre mio misericordia para mi por no poder hacer nada
viendo esta catastrofe acontececer.
Yo te pido Padre mio perdon hacia el horror humano.
July 25th, 2006 at 9:08 pm
Dani Dani Dani ……. Im sorry to be picking on you alone, but you are so easy to pick on with all your statistics and demands that Israel has a right to exist. The israeli people who have been in this region since time began are the only Jews that have a legitimate right to live there. Trouble started in that region when the new settlers started moving in and squatting on palestinian land. But it is the land that God promised his people in the old testament of the bible that gives all Jews the right to take the Palestinian land ……… Is that also your belief. Yes yes yes Ive heard you say time and again that hizballah and hamas and the palestinian bombers that have slaughtered the Israeli people …… But the Israeli government has been playing tit fo tat for every time they are hit. Or do you not count the demolition of a suicide bombers house sometimes with his family still in there ……. and all the other attacks on Palestinians over the years. Do not make out that Israel has been sitting back and copping all this shit without retaliating. Having said that …… Israel, the US and their allies and you are willing to let this carnage continue until they meet their goals of destroying hezballah. But I ask you as a human being with a conscience HOW long do you take out your revenge and vengence on the innocent ……. How many more innocents have to die ……. before you realise that two wrongs do not make a right. It doesnt matter how hard you try and excuse this catastrophy and find justice in this abhoration against humanity. Israel is acting like the Terrorists it is hunting and its allies have all turned a blind eye. You cannot visit the sins of the past on the innocents you are killing now. And if you realy do find this atrocity justified …… Then you are one in the same as those that press the button to launch those rockets and nissiles on innocent humans …… NO MATTER WHERE THEY COME FROM. An immediate CEASFIRE must be called for …… Every day this ccontinues brings us closer to the end of days.
July 25th, 2006 at 9:43 pm
It is very clear who is in the right here. The statistics speak for themselves. Israel is exceding the number of war crimes that any terrorist organisation could ever achieve.
July 25th, 2006 at 9:58 pm
How do you think WE AMERICANS felt on 9/11?? Now you know. Maybe you’ll think twice before electing terrorists to your government.
July 25th, 2006 at 10:01 pm
hafeez its not about two soldiers ..it never was .isreal and hisballa have always had conflct. it just wasnt reported by your media. and i dont know where you experienced what islam truly is but thats your opinion. dont generalize islam or its followers. u’ve shit loads to learn.
Dani your two cents worth have been quite intertaining, keep it up but also look at it from the arab mostly the shiite perspective…although i cant blame you neither. muslims within islam dont worthy shiites percpective as well.
things are gonna get ugly at the expense of the innocent. it has always been that way and always will be.
hisballa may be twisted in some ppls view..but its not even half of how twisted the american regime and isreals government is.
peace out!!!!!!!
July 25th, 2006 at 10:38 pm
spirit of 9/11…the terrorist that led that sad day was chilling with your beloved Bush months before.
they go waaaaaaaay back and they both benefit from the destruction caused.
keep in mind “the bigger the empire the harder it will fall”…(excuse the pun)
truly what happened on9/11 was uncalled for and devestating for many but thats the realtiy of what the mideast has been going through and still is going through everyday!!
but the arabs are taking the brunt of it all, isreal has had its innocent civilian casualties but they’re only a grain of salt compared to the agony arabs have endured…peace
July 25th, 2006 at 10:53 pm
God children’s should not kill the innocent souls.
July 25th, 2006 at 10:56 pm
salam alikoum
dear lebanese people god be with us and inchala victory by our side because we are always on right inchala and we belive in god we dont need any thing from any only from god as they say alchkwa legeir alah mazala
anyway hope evry thing will be good and no one feel as we feel right now because we are in this war alone no one else
July 25th, 2006 at 11:10 pm
Em Nome De Deus, O Clemente, O Misericordioso.
Quero expressar toda minha repúdia contra estes ataques, se os exercitos israelita e o Hisbollah querem se matar por TERRITORIO , pois para mim não é uma luta divina e sim materialista, por bens terrenos, por lugares estratégicos, água etc, menos luta divina, Deus não tem nada haver com este absurdo que esta acontecendo, mas tera haver sim com cada envolvido neste episódio, será cobrado cada consciencia, cada ato praticado, Ele é justo pois criou a justiça, continuem assassinando pessoas, CRIANÇAS!!!, idosos, jovens pais de familia,continuem!!!
Há de ser cobrado, não tem como escapar de DEUS!!Ele é Paciente , mas no castigo é Severo!!!
July 25th, 2006 at 11:11 pm
For Spirit of 9/11:
Well, you elected Bush… tha’t like electing a mix of Jerry Lewis and Adolph Hitler; how can YOU of anyone talk about terrorism!!
…go get a history book and read WHO is the real terrorist (for example, in the 9/11… of 1973 in Chile)… talk about state terrorism…
Go get a bloody history book, you WASP!
For the rest of us…Peace!
July 25th, 2006 at 11:12 pm
Spirit of 9/11
Well, you elected Bush… tha’t like electing a mix of Jerry Lewis and Adolph Hitler; how can YOU of anyone talk about terrorism!!
…go get a history book and read WHO is the real terrorist (for example, in the 9/11… of 1973 in Chile)… talk about state terrorism…
Go get a bloody history book, you WASP!
For the rest of us…Peace!
July 25th, 2006 at 11:34 pm
i am very sorry guys :( i think am giving up.. i never thought that i can be weak.. but i think i am..i can’t take it anymore..i just can’t..the pain is killing me,can’t eat or even sleep,can’t hear more bombs or see more ppl dead :( i wish to die and not see or hear more.. my country, my ppl, my friends, my life.. all gone for what?? everytime i try to sleep i live the rape again and again coz this is much worse than rape or destroying or ubusing or war or even hell…
i have nothing more to say anymore :(
may god bless and protect lebanon…
“And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying; and there shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”
July 25th, 2006 at 11:37 pm
I broke into tears when i saw the pix of little girls and little boys…i am myself married a mother of two girls of 4 and 5 years.I pray to Allah that he stops ISRAEL from doing all his brutalities…..because there is only ALLAH in the present situation who can bring peace…no-one seems to be doing anything….Allah please help them to save them!
July 25th, 2006 at 11:43 pm
This is truly an unfair fight. Western Government leaders are “War Criminals”, especially with the Un-Just reasons they give. My God, help them in their grave.
Seif Al Islam
July 25th, 2006 at 11:59 pm
Islam Zinda hotta hay har Qarbala kay Baad…….
All islmaic country need to be united, and protest our brothers and sister live there… May Allah save them……
July 26th, 2006 at 12:40 am
Amethyst - a beautiful stone when cut properly and polished but dull and uninviting when lacking detail.
Why is it that it is always Israel copping the blame - sure, Israel retaliates, and to a certain extent it can be viewed as “tit for tat” as you put it, but give me a break, how many times can Israel “turn the other cheek” when subjected to suicide bombings, kidnappings, murders and now rocket and missile attacks.
Its always Israel at fault - funny how you and others with your philosophy can’t find it in your narrow minded approach to history to acknowledge that when there is peace on the borders and no attacks on and in Israel, there is relative quiet but that when this happens groups such as the PLO and PFLP then and more recently Hezbollah and Hamas would stir up the action with renewed attacks.
As to attacks in “civilian” areas, well tell the Hezbollah to get out of the suburbs from where they are firing their rockets at Israel and tell them to fight out in the open or tell the Lebanese government/army to get Hezbollah out of the suburbs.
As to a ceasefire - I answered this question above.
July 26th, 2006 at 12:45 am
All Islamic countries should learn a lesson from this destruction. If you support terrorism, you will get only death & destruction in return. Muslims never hesitate to kill and terrorise people in the name of Islam. Now when they are at the receiving end, lets hope they have realised the consequences. You reap what you sow.
Muslims have systematically & brutally wiped out the Hindu population in Kashmir and turned them into refugees within their own country. COUNTLESS HINDU WOMEN WERE RAPED & KILLED IN KASHMIR BY ISLAMIC TERRORISTS–why no one protested then? Even newspapers refused to publish such reports in the name of secularism. Hindu businessmen had to literally hand over their business & other belongings & walk out of their house otherwise they would get raped & brutally killed. Islamic terrorism has brutally killed countless Hindus & people from other religions–why no one protests against this?
LET MUSLIMS BE BRUTALLY KILLED IN LARGE NUMBERS ACROSS THE WORLD. ONLY THEN THEY WILL REALISE THE CONSEQUENCES OF TERRORISM.
July 26th, 2006 at 12:46 am
Deus onde estás que não conseguimos te ver? Interdecedei Senhor, misericórdia Senhor!
July 26th, 2006 at 12:59 am
Пиздец, вообще слов нет. Израель совсем охренел своими выходками. ВОЕВАТЬ ДОЖНЫ СОЛДАТЫ!!!!!!!!!!!
Вводите свои войска, и уничтожайте террористов, и именно них!!!!
А не так как вы поступаете, артиллерийскими залпами по детдомам и жилым домом……
July 26th, 2006 at 1:18 am
DEAR DANI………..I noticed that CNN specifically releases figures of the amount of prehistoric rockets pea shooting into Isreal. One day over 400, another day over 100, another 96 ect. As they report this I notice one Israeli artillary tank positioned behind the reporter. This state of the art tank is blasting much more powerful bombs constantly every 30 seconds to every few minutes 24 hours 7 days a week while the empty huge shells are constantly being truck loaded away and other trucks bring more to each specific tank like an assembly line etc 24/7. Israel has thousands of tanks and over 480 jet fighters , helicopters,state of the art war ships firing off the Lebanese coast, attack dogs,human bulldozers etc. etc. etc. There is not enough room on this site to list and go through all Israeli weapons and amounts but they are a lot like american big money weapons. So let us keep it simple because those that are for Israel think everyone is stupid and needs to get an Israeli and republican education in politics. So because we are all stupid and terrorists and nazis if we disagree with Israel and its lobbyists in america, perhaps we need help in calculating just the amount of bombs from ONE Israeli artillary tank from the start of this latest flare up. Dani, since you seem to be the smartest of the smart spokespersons proud of Israel on this site that was suppose to give support to ending the destruction of Lebanon, may we be so humbled for your calculation for this one tank. We are too stupid and ignorant, please do not give us the total calculation of all the weapons that hit Lebanon villages and cities and ports, schools ext. from all the weapons. We are too stupid , we can’t count that high. So Dani, please humble us with your calculation of how many shells this ONE tank has “stratigically” 24/7 given to the people of Lebanon and the resistance force of Lebanon and the children of Lebanon. Oh, sorry , see how stupid and ignorant I am, I forgot that I should say “terrorist” instead of “resistance”. You know , how foolish of me, I also forget that Palestine is just a bunch of stupid terrorists, and Israel never did anything to them but always those Palestinians seem to disrupt peaceful Israel. I am sorry Dani, I am so stupid that is why I just want your calculations for the ONE tank if you could so humble us with your great mind.
July 26th, 2006 at 1:30 am
Hi JUST AN IGNORANT DUMMY FROM CANADA. Obviously not enough shells as Hezbollah is still firing rockets into Israel.
And my friend, that is the difference between Israel and Hezbollah - Israel allows CNN and other media access to what Israel is doing - Hezbollah doesn’t coz they don’t want the media/world to see from where they are firing their rockets from in and amongst the civilian population.
Got to love free press, aye???
July 26th, 2006 at 1:54 am
To all people of the world, let us just stop and reconsider what has been done through those past centuries. where did hatred lead us? is it worth it? shall we continue hating each other and killing each other? sometimes i just envy animals. Look at them. Learn from them love and forget revenge. Let those who want to fight go to a deserted island away from civillians and childrens and old people. GO THERE and FIGHT till the last one of you DROP. Just leave us alone. Leave us in peace. we want to live and love. We want to wake up to the wonderfull sounds of nature not to the sounds of bombs. We want to hugg each other from different races and different religions and different countries. God gave us earth and plenty of wonderfull lands with wide horizons and we created borders. Let there be no more borders, Let us love each other. And those who still want revenge, those who still want to border their vision, please leave us alone. Just go find that deserted Island. We beg you. We will also be glad to help you find it and get there.
July 26th, 2006 at 2:20 am
Dani ….. I was right. You are single and bloody minded to say the least. You and those like you (on both sides of this devastation) are full of hate and arrogance and self rightousness. I blame Israel because it is the one that claims to be civilised and yet I have seen no civility come from it. You claim the right for Israel to reclaim land in the name of the displaced jewish people. You can dredge up history all you like and you can quote numbers of deaths in Israel and you can try and justify the murders it is carryiong out on innocent people all you like …. But history will tell the truth …. for the truth can no longer be denied ….. Israel and its backers and sympathisers are also terrorist in this war on terror. And when I refer to Israel I am talking about the government and the squatters that have infringed on Palestinian land …. land that was not allocated to them when the UN, UK & US decided to return the displaced jews to Palestine. They were given what was Palestinian land for centuries. But the greed and self rightouness of red neck jews (who believe they are above mans law because of their dillusion that they WERE Gods chosen people. Maybe they were in the old testament …… But I dare say not anymore. People of true faith in the one GOD know that God does not want revenge and vengence. Yes your enemies are also to blame …… but as long as you behave like those you despise you will be one with them under the heading of TERRORIST.
You keep harping on about Israels rite to the land it has killed, de humanised and oppressed the Palestinians for.
Should America not give its land back to the American Indians it massacered on arrival and continued to do so for many years to come.
Should the Dutch not give back the land to the Africans, that it enslaved (something it shares with America ….. fondness for building a nation on the back of slaves) and slaughtered.
Should the Australians not give the land back to the Aborigines, whose life and culture have been deseased and stripped away by the white man.
The list will go on forever ……
Although you may detest Michael Moore, his book STUPID WHITE MEN was written about people like you.
Israel has the rite to exist. Israel is fed up with being the victim. Israel is the one under attack. Israel has the right to slaughter 100s today (10s of 1000s in history) Israel Israel Israel ……….. GOD will turn his back forever on Israel this time around …… Israel and America (the power hungry supremists) can no longer hide their evil doing thanks to the spread of the internet and direct access to the TRUTH.
Those two clearly marked ambulances that were hit yesterday ….. that was just an accident.
And to answer your questions of earlier about WHY the Arab states are quiet in all of this mayhem ……. They my dear are showing restraint for the time being, they want to give Israel a chance to cease fire and if it does not ……. Then you will be crying for your beloved Israel as the Lebanese are crying for their homeland and its people ……… I hope this never comes to pass, for it will be the war to end all wars ….. a war born in the cradle of humanity ….. which will in turn annialate it.
As for the Aid you’ve asked about I believe it has already started flowing with Saudi Arabia giving Lebanon and Palestine US$750million.
Unlike the band aid America has offered to cover the gaping wounds that it has helped cause.
Unlike Ehud Olmert who has conceded to allow humanitarian aid to be air lifted to Lebanon through Beruit airport ……. Um!!! whats so wrong about that you say …….. Jeez did someone forget to tell him he blew the living bejesus of what used to be the airport.
Until you can admit Israels major role in the rise of Terroism in the MIddle East ………..
When has Israel EVER turned the other cheek ……
Israel policy is not an eye for an eye …. but rather an entire village for a finger …. History will eventually tell the truth of this carnage … but how many more people do you need to see die before you admit Israels ideaology ……. Is ideal only to itself.
History Major or not …………. your an absolute idiot and cant see past your hatred the TRUTH AND REALITY of what is before your eyes (as opposed to the TRUTH according to Israel and the US)
I realy do look forward to your reply ….. For in all that I’ve written you only choose what suits you.
One again for the dumb History Major ……. NO NATION HAS THE RIGHT TO INTIMIDATE AND TERRORISE ANOTHER. And we are talking about the present situation here and now ……… Not about the history, which I have already explained to you, Israel has had its vengence for already ten fold by million times.
This WAR that Israel has raged on the innocent has NOTHING to do with two captured soldiers (hey that happens in all conflicts). It has NOTHING to do with Hezballah, it has NOTHING to do with Hamas. Israel has its own agenda … which is fully backed by the US and its allies.
I heard an Israeli man who lost his 11 year old daughter to a suicide bomber say this in an interview ………… Yes I have lost my daughter, and I am very upset and angry ……. But we Israilies have to ask ourselves “what is it that WE have done to cause these to people to be so desperate as to strap bombs to themselves and blow themselves up whilst taking as many with them as they can ……..
The father of one of the Israeli soldiers captured has asked that this terror not be associated to his son ……
There are many good Israelies who know the truth of their lying government …… Hence the protests against this carnage in Tel Aviv last week
When will you too see the TRUTH
July 26th, 2006 at 2:24 am
What are the US and Israeli government thinking? The destruction of Lebanon and its people is a horrific mistake! The U.S. needs to exert all its diplomatic might and skill (?) to convince Israel to STOP its ruthless killing of women and children and the systematic destruction of their homes, schools and workplaces.
The U.S. Government SHOULD NOT be playing Russian Roulette with the Arab world! We (U.S.) have been the bank, military trainer, armament supplier and general spear-carrier for Israel for FAR, FAR, TOO LONG! It’s time to sever the relationship with Israel and their aggressive, arrogant, selfish, blackhearted and ruthless treatment of all who are unfortunate enough to come into direct contact with them!!!
The Lebanese people have worked hard to heal their multi-cultural divisions and to rebuild their war-torn cities and countryside. Let these people alone! They deserve the chance to work things out for themselves. The US concern for Israel is wasted on a country that doesn’t need it! I cannot cry for the few casualities that are reported in Israel. They have superior rockets, guns, tanks, planes and all other manner of armaments as well as bomb shelters with all the comforts of home to run to.
What do the poor people of Lebanon have? Soon they will have no food, water, medicine or even a roof to cover them. What will Israel do next? Are biological weapons on the menu after they have sealed all the escape routes from Lebanon? Maybe some small nukes to bring the end Israel desires? Will America stand by idly twiddling its fingers as this happens? We are already guilty in sitting on our hands and encouraging Israel (a bastard creation of the West) to annihalate people who had no guilt in the Hezbollah small attacks in northern Israel.
I am not a supporter of Hezbollah but I am sick and tired of Israel and its style of government and the U.S. support and friendship . Hasn’t the U.S. paid enough for not coming to the aid of the European Jews sooner in World War II? Must we start World War III to continue to show our remorse? ENOUGH ALREADY!!
July 26th, 2006 at 2:30 am
This shouldn’t be called a war on lebanon,because for some reason it only seems like an attack..lebanon CLEARLY doesn’t own the weapons,bombs, helicopters….and so on..that israel has and is using on every target they choose..if israel was sure of the whereabouts of hiziballah (which they’re not),,they would be one step closer to ending this..but from the looks of things only women and children seem to be getting killed..(i have yet to see a 5 year old with a missle on his shoulder aiming at israel with his mom holding him for support…)
This isn’t an equal war, lebanon is losing hundreds of civilians,homes,… everything, whereas Israel seems to be losing ammo..Thats why the states keeps sending more and more (oh hey this is a new bomb ..here israel have fun bombing innocents with it)….this isn’t a contest of whose killing more..and its obviously gone way past 2 soldiers…theres no point at aiming missles,or bombs at civilians,on either side….. but u have to fight fire with fire and up till now hiziballah is fighting israel and defending lebanon by any means, .. although there is a better and more peaceful way to solve this,reality is what it is..its so hard to sit here and watch whats going on in our country from half across the world but whats being done is being done,,all we can do is hope for the best, pray for the civilians living this, day in and day out..and pray for the dead.. GOD BLESS…
July 26th, 2006 at 2:48 am
israel certainly has no right to exist
israel has tainted the word ‘’humanity'’ such that it ought to have thrown out of their dictionary!
how dare they target lives of poor lebanese>
we all know bloody US is behind this
had there been no israel..the world would have been a just place to live
July 26th, 2006 at 2:51 am
I am a Lebanese women, and I have two children and I am very sad and angry to see those children are killed in Lebanon. and paying the price for those leaders who don’t seem to care who don’t have humanity or dignity. they are killing just for their own arrogant and their hatred. I hope that massacres stop in Lebanon and in Israel too because we are all created by one God who cry every moment there is a child killed by those who don’t care.
July 26th, 2006 at 2:52 am
Israel has its own agenda - to live in peace with its neighbours within safe and secure borders without suicide bombers blowing up buses and cafes. Couldn’t be any clearer if you bothered to seek the truth. End of story and reply to your monologue.
Nasrullah talking up threats of long range missiles being fired south of Haifa is certainly not going to help matters. Why doesn’t anyone put any pressure on this guy? Huh???
Got to tell you, if he is foolish enough to try this, get ready for more tragedy in Beirut and anywhere else these rockets may be fired from, coz I doubt very much that Israel will not hit back - the only difference here will be that technology will allow Israel to zero in on the area these rockets are being fired from - unlike Katyushas, these longer range missiles leave a “footprint” that allow for identification and I think you can assume that Israel has the technology to identify these locations.
So if any one on this board lives in an area where Hezbollah fires its missiles from, or if you know of anyone who lives in these areas, I would be telling them to get out of those areas quick smart coz if Nasrullah fires these missiles, you can bet that the place it was fired from will be obliterated within a very short time.
July 26th, 2006 at 2:53 am
esp. this time when jews n warriors of cross have collaborated
i dunno
what would they make of us?
but here we r …here we r to show them what a folly they have made!
July 26th, 2006 at 3:52 am
This is the real face of Israel by the blessings from their American masters. UN is just for their protection so Israel can kill more and more innocent civilians including children. This is their agenda to bring international force to Lebanon borders.
Time has come for all musalim nations specially Lebanon’s neighbour to join hand together and make use of this golden oppotunity to destroy Israel from the face of the earth.
We all are standing besides Lebanese people in their support and pray to God that they will come out of this tragic situation.
July 26th, 2006 at 3:59 am
If i were a jew i would be saying now: “An eye for an eye and a child for a child” but i refuse to be like them and would continue to say: “Forgive them God, they know not what they do”
July 26th, 2006 at 4:01 am
Israels agenda is the same as the US ….. to control the world and enslave or destroy all those that stand against them. POWER GREED POWER WAR POWER BLOODSHED POWER……YOU ARE A FOOL and it will be your stolen country that will need to watch out. For the rest of the world is only giving Israel time to desist in this slaughter. And if they do not ….. then you will truely be crying over your dead. BEWARE ………… THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING.
Lets see how much sympathy you will get when the world decides intervene (and it will eventually)Barbarism can only be dressed up as the “Right to defence for so long….. your government has gone way beyond the realms of defence when it dropped its first rocket into Lebanon
You are small minded and cant see beyond your hatred. You claim to love all people ….. But you love only those that blind you with lies and drench your history in bloodshed. For yours is a history full of bloodshed and violence against others. But you choose only to see the wrongs inflicted on the poor and misunderstood STOLEN state of Israel
Have you ever asked your self WHY???? so many different nations throughout history have oppressed your people.
As I”ve said you only see what you want to see and conveniently disregard the rest.
WAKE UP and SMELL the blood on the hands of your leaders …… you ignorant and small minded fool and admit you got it wrong once again.
July 26th, 2006 at 4:06 am
hira said - “…had there been no israel..the world would have been a just place to live…”
Yeah, right Hira. Let’s just get rid of Israel and terrorism will vanish.
What an absolutely brilliant, well thought out, intelligent comment, NOT !!
But for the sake of the argument you are correct and Israel disappears, do you really think that will be the end of terrorism? That there will be no more bombings in London, train bombings in Madrid, suicide bombings in Turkey, etc. etc. etc. That there will be no more acts of terrorism in the Middle East, i.e. in the moderate Arab Countries such as Egypt or Jordan or even in Lebanon?
I have news for you - the terrorism will continue by the militant, fundamentalist groups similar to if not the same as Hezbollah and funded by such states as Iran, until such time as these moderate, western society accepting Arab countries accept Islamic fundamentalism and possibly Sharia law.
You see, Hira, Israel, Palestinians, Palestinian State, are all convenient excuses at the moment to take the “eye off the ball” of what the true goal is of those backing groups like Hezbollah and Hamas - the Islamization of as much of the world as possible in general terms and more specifically, the implementation of a strict fundamental Islamic way of life in Arab/Muslim countries.
Get rid of Israel and the Palestinian issue and watch the increase in terrorism in Arab countries and Lebanon will be the first cab off the rank given the make up of the country and the ineffective government and army in place at the moment.
July 26th, 2006 at 4:14 am
ANGRY at th LIES - wow, your last post was really well thought out. Often wondered if anti-semitism was a thing of the past, but obviously not.
July 26th, 2006 at 4:14 am
As long as Dani and angry at the lies continue to blame each other, this tragedy will not end. let us both leave each other alone for a while, and maybe one day we can forgive each other and live in peace.
July 26th, 2006 at 4:17 am
Its really a shameful act.
they are innocent human being, War is not a solution to solve the problem……With this act, the problems of gets high day by day… Lebnan people also want to live propery with their freedom….Please stop the war.
God please help those people who is still facing such a big difficulties.
July 26th, 2006 at 4:17 am
WHO PAYS FOR YOUR TECHNOLOGY AND YOUR PRECISE WEAPONS? The same ones that precisely killed two red cross workers yesterday and four UN workers today.
Damn you know they should have had a red cross indicating who they were ……. They did and Israel used it as a target.
WHO IS TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM THE WELFARE AND HEALTH SYSTEMS OF ITS OWN PEOPLE TO SUPPORT YOU IN THIS BLOODSHED?
YOU PULL THEIR C***KS AND THEY PULL YOURS
But BEWARE the US has turned on its allies before more than once …….. Remember Osama and Saddam? Put your history major skills to work there DUMBASS
July 26th, 2006 at 4:21 am
…lebanese people are capable to challenge any circumstances..we are not afraid of bombs ..but children are the meant of thier war….lebanese people are strong and they will overcome this problem..and i know and feel that we won….(freeDom)….Jews are criminals and am so dissappionted from arab leaders!!!!!!!!!!! lebanese old people,women,men,children ,younsters, will SurVive…………………………………………:( , Whre are u people!!! where are u!!!! aint enough!!.America huh…….
July 26th, 2006 at 4:29 am
ANGRY at th LIES - must have hit a raw nerve as your language is progressively deteriorating - not nice.
Yes, I agree, the deaths of the red cross workers and UN officials is sad and I do not for one minute condone the deaths of innocents, but war being war, innocents ON BOTH SIDES will suffer.
I would like nothing more than for the kidnapped soldiers to be returned and for Hezbollah to stop rocketing Israell and for a cease fire to take place. Why is there no pressure here for Hezbollah to do this as I am sure Israel would stop once this took place and an international force could be placed into a buffer zone?
July 26th, 2006 at 4:47 am
well…Leb is one of the kind..it’s a country of mixed way of thinking and acting…but we’re destroying this beautiful country…we can always find a way 2 solve our prb…but WE…ppl…dnt have 2 pay…our houses…our kids…our selves…only bcz we chose the wrong solution…
R.I.P LEBANON..
July 26th, 2006 at 4:55 am
There you go ….. calling anyone that doesnt agree with you an anti semite ….. you Jews sure love to dredge out that slogan time and again. It means nothing to me. You mean nothing to me. Go cry on uncle redneck georges shoulder ….
The terrorists state of Israel is a thorn in the side of all that is just. And I am talking about the state of Israel (you know the one that you think has a right to exist) Not the TRUE israeli people who are not empowered by your talk of hatred and lust for revenge and are shocked at their own governments actions.
July 26th, 2006 at 5:07 am
this msg is wrote just to all who have honor and degnity
this evil is the democracey of the UNITED NATIONS
be aware of these : UN,USA,UK,ISRAEL
see in ur eyes and judge wat ever ur heart says
July 26th, 2006 at 5:12 am
Hahahaha no you didnt hit a raw nerve. I wasnt trying to be crude I was stateing a fact.
You REGRET those deaths do you …. well I must say that is very big of you. How about the deaths of all the other innocent people in this masacre of Israels doing …. What!!! cant spare any regret for those lives????
No body ….. No suicide bomber, No Hamas, No Hezballah has done to Israel in all its years of bloodshed, what Israel has done to Lebanon in these last 2 weeks.
Hezballah captured two IDF soldiers in an ongoing conflict with Israel and in retaliation Israel destroyed Lebanon. But thats OK, because GODs chosen people have a right to dish out the punishment of others on the innocent children it has slaughtered.
Israel is GOOD, Israel has a right to exist. Israel has a right to retaliate against those naughty lebanese who chose not to start a civil war against its own people.
Israel is a warmonger and as much a lover of death and destruction as those it says its fighting
At least hezballah is honest about its hatred …… You and the governments you venomously protect are not.
July 26th, 2006 at 5:14 am
I HOPE THESE PICTURES WILL GET THE ARAB WORLD TO REACT AND UNITE IN THE FIGHT AGAINST THE STATE OF SATAN- ISRAEL!
July 26th, 2006 at 5:47 am
the evil,and the son of sattan i.e. israel has been killing the innocent philestinis for the past number of decades and this dracula has found another pray to get human blood so that this bloody israel can survive.
We muslims from all over the world are along with the Lebanon people by all means
i think all nations over the world should unite to stop this Massacre
July 26th, 2006 at 6:00 am
ANGRY at th LIES - for the record, I regret the deaths of innocent people in Lebanon and Israel. I thought I had made that clear in earlier posts but if I didn’t, I have now.
July 26th, 2006 at 6:16 am
é com muita tristeza no coração e lagrimas nos olhos…q precensio toda essa ‘historia de dor e sofrimento’ dos meus ‘irmaos’ do outro lado do mundo…
pessoas inocentes com esperança e um ideal, sacrificadas por um IDEAL DE ‘HONRA’…..?????????????
peço a deus q ainda em tempo essas pessoas q tem poder vejam …abram os olhos….pq coração a gente sabe q eles nao tem msm…
deixo minha tristeza juntamente com meu protesto.
abraço!
July 26th, 2006 at 6:16 am
é com muita tristeza no coração e lagrimas nos olhos…q precensio toda essa ‘historia de dor e sofrimento’ dos meus ‘irmaos’ do outro lado do mundo…
pessoas inocentes com esperança e um ideal, sacrificadas por um IDEAL DE ‘HONRA’…..?????????????
peço a deus q ainda em tempo essas pessoas q tem poder vejam …abram os olhos….pq coração a gente sabe q eles nao tem msm…
deixo minha tristeza juntamente com meu protesto.
abraço!
marta pedroso - sta barbara d’oeste- sp - brasil.
July 26th, 2006 at 6:23 am
They came to our land ,they started killing , destroying , damaging without mercy … they wanted to take what doesn’t belong for them … and they did ,,,, and no one did anything about it … but Now is time … to stand together … to kick them out from our lands … we wont let them threatened us ne more …
we wer silent for along time … whets happening to us , to our kids , to our pple , is happening to PHLASTEEN since 60 years ago …. Is this fair, is this the life we want …
Why our soles don’t matter … why if u defines our lands we become terrorists … and occupying others countries, killing others, is there right?!!!!
Taking two prisoners is our right 2, to get ours in return, and because this show our courage a strike in there faces they want shut up our voices and blind our eyes …
NOOOOOOOOOO …..
Lebanon will fight till the end…. we don’t fear them … we’ve always been proud, honored pple ,,, and being the only country standing in there face prove it … we wont give away our dignity … it’s what Lebanese pple live for,,, or death would be better … and we r ready to die for our beloved Lebanon for the right ….
God be with us …
July 26th, 2006 at 6:27 am
everyone knows who is right and who is on mistake so decision is yours whatever u want but think u will be with the right one because right one will win INSHALLAH
July 26th, 2006 at 6:32 am
Dani ….. I think we are finally getting somewhere with you my somewhat misguided friend (and I do use that term loosly). But of what use is regret in the face of destruction and what it seems as it continues to take its toll on innocent people is genocide.
You should regret choosing vanilla over chocolate. Not killings that you seem to condone ….. for everytime you say Israel has a right ….. you are condoning those deaths.
But but but but…… Hezballah started it by capturing two combatant soldiers in a conflict with what it considers an enemy state (whether right or wrong)
I have said this before TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT. And in this instance Israel is the bigger wrong doer.
Can I also get you to admit that this devastation that Israel has waged on Lebanon (not hezballah) is indeed a WAR crime.
And really ….. I would like to hear what you have to say about some of the other points I’ve made that you have chosen to ignore. The ones that go against the grain … you know the ones that rattle your chain.
Are you so blinded by hate that you cannot see the true actions of those that you say have a RIGHT.
July 26th, 2006 at 6:33 am
Meu Deus!!! A minha comoção ao ver essas fotos é inexplicavel!
Que mundo é este? Quem são essas pessoas? Na minha concepção esses seres não são dignos de serem chamados de filhos de Deus, do Deus amor, são criaturas demoniacas, plantadores do medo, da raiva, da tristeza profunda.
Espero um dia, de todo meu coração, um dia em que não haja mais cenas lamentaveis como estas, um dia em que todas as pessoas evoluam seu espirito e aprendam qual a sentido da vida, o sentido da liberdade ainda não aprenderam, seu espirito está tão ligado a coisas pequenas que não conseguem ver um palma a dianta de seu nariz.Só podem estar cegas, porque é impossivel fazer o que fazem e não sentirem remorço.
“Espero um dia, em que ao invés de pânico, plantemos todos a PAZ MUNDIAL!”…
…QUEM SABE UM DIA…(**suspiros**)
July 26th, 2006 at 6:42 am
They came to our land ,they started killing , destroying , damaging without mercy … they wanted to take what doesn’t belong for them … and they did ,,,, and no one did anything about it … but Now is time … to stand together … to kick them out from our lands … we wont let them threatened us ne more …
we wer silent for along time … whets happening to us , to our kids , to our pple , is happening to PHLASTEEN since 60 years ago …. Is this fair, is this the life we want …
Why our soles don’t matter … why if u defines our lands we become terrorists … and occupying others countries, killing others, is there right?!!!!
Taking two prisoners is our right 2, to get ours in return, and because this show our courage a strike in there faces they want shut up our voices and blind our eyes …
NOOOOOOOOOO …..
Lebanon will fight till the end…. we don’t fear them … we’ve always been proud, honored pple ,,, and being the only country standing in there face prove it … we wont give away our dignity … it’s what Lebanese pple live for,,, or death would be better … and we r ready to die for our beloved Lebanon for the right ….
God be with us
July 26th, 2006 at 6:48 am
Dear Rani ……. I am not angry at Dani per say, I am just annoyed that he/she continues to justify the RIGHT of the state of Israel to carry out murder on innocent people and the say …… but they did it to us first. You should know that I abhore violence in any shape or form, I cant even kill ants that raid my kitchen, I sweep them up and put them back outside and when they come back and I do it again. Dani has said on more than one posting on this site that Israel has the right to defend itself ……. and Im trying to make the point that NO HUMAN BEING HAS THE RIGHT TO TAKE ANOTHERS LIFE, more so at the rate that Israel seems to be doing in Lebanon …….. I would truely rather be killed than have the blood of another on my hands.
I am a pacifist in every sense of the word, but I am but human and cant help get annoyed when someone is constantly saying they have the RIGHT
All I want to see is an immediate end to this madness
July 26th, 2006 at 6:50 am
ANGRY at th LIES - Israel has a right to exist - there’s your answer - and it has a right to live peacefully within secure and safe borders and it has the right to defend itself against terrorism and it has the right to go after terrorists who attack Israel within her borders and then go running away to another country which is prepared to shelter and assist these terrorists.
Regrettably, innocent civilians ON BOTH SIDES will be the casualties and if Nasrullah follows through on his latest threats, it will get a lot worse ON BOTH SIDES before it gets better. The ball is in his court and has been since day one.
As to the question of War Crimes - give me a break. If terrorists are prepared to fire rockets from within civilian areas and the local government is not prepared to do anything about it, then Israel has the right to do something about it if no-one else will.
But sure as day follows night, Israel will be condemned publicly for doing what they are doing whilst privately it is being hoped that Israel succeeds. That is the way of hypocrisy in this world today. Not the first time and probably not the last time.
July 26th, 2006 at 7:02 am
ANGRY at th LIES - if you are such a pacifist as you declare you are - why is all your criticism directed solely at Israel?
How is it you can not see a way for the fighting to end with Nasrullah agreeing to return the kidnapped soldiers and ceasing to fire rockets into Israel? Why no pressure from you on Hezbollah to back off?
The problem is Hezbollah/Nasrullah have publicly and repeatedly said they will not stop the rocket attacks and will not return the soldiers, on the contraty, they are saying they will now escalate hostilities by firing long range missiles into Israel. Do you think Israel will sit back if that happens ???? Eh ????
Being a pacifist, as you say you are, where were you when suicide bombers were killing innocent people on buses, in cafes, in supermarkets, in reception halls?
July 26th, 2006 at 8:22 am
Maybe Dani and Angry at the lies, should go and get it on(screw), get their excitement over and done with…..
What is up with you 2 anyways? like 2 sides of the same coin!
Make love not war……I love you
July 26th, 2006 at 8:30 am
حسبى الله ونعمة الوكيل يا مجرمين يا متوحشين الذى دمرت المسلمين والمسيحين بلا سبب وسيعاقب فى يوم القيامة إن شاء الله وأتمنى من الله سبحانه وتعالى أن يقف بجانب المسلمين والمسيحين وفاجىء من الله سبحانه وتعالى دمر مرة وحدة للدول المجرمين والمتواحشين فى يوم القيامة إن شاء الله
July 26th, 2006 at 9:37 am
Jews don’t believe in freedom of speech
By John Kaminski – July 19, 2006 skylax@comcast.net
I can make any Jew tell a lie in three seconds. Just ask, “Tell me about the history of Israel.” You won’t hear the real answer from a Jew.
The real answer is: Israel is a criminal entity subject to no laws but its own, and it basically has none. It was created by terrorists who stole the land from its original owners. Every crime is permissable by a Jew against a non Jew. That is the core of its teaching in both the Talmud and the Torah. Non Jews are cattle, the Talmud says. Take a look at the world, and see how those cattle are now being slaughtered, especially in the neighborhood of Israel.
Israeli soldiers specialize in shooting Palestinian children in the head, you know. Most Jews in America are very proud of that, though they don’t usually let the newspapers they own in America write about that stuff, except through vicious racism against others, especially Muslims, but also blacks and whites, of which they are neither.
My local TV station told me local Jews were celebrating and supporting Israel’s slaughter of Palestinians in Gaza and its invasion of Lebanon, where many children were slaughtered by Jewish bombs while riding in a schoolbus. Such is life in braindead America these days. Zionized. A mental yarmulke on the heads of everyone.
Remember Rachel Corrie, the young girl crushed by the bulldozer? Multiply that by a number too large to contemplate and you have an accurate picture of life in Palestine under the heartless heel of the Jewish/Zionist/Israeli monster, which kills for no reason and smiles at the sight of the blood it spills.
This is the most important social question now facing the human species.
What kind of religion is this Judaism?! It is not like the others — Christians, Muslims. Buddhists and Hindus, who advertise salvation to anyone who wants it. Judaism is only for the Jews, not for anybody else. In fact, In Judaism, everybody else is fair game for murder and robbery with no penalty. Witness the Israeli squadron captain who recently was acquitted on a minor manslaughter charge after pumping 13 bullets into the lifeless body of a ten-year-old Palestinian girl.
The greatest scam ever perpetrated on the human race was the notion of anti-Semitism, where a transparent persecution complex created a permanent, self-inflicted injury by which the greatest group of crooks in human history made themselves sacred, and hoodwinked the rest of its species into believing they were The Chosen. The cash registers have been ringing every since. And there’s something about spilled blood these people like.
Five thousand years later, after the magical machinations of Daniel and his magi friends in Babylon invented money and religion at the very same time, the two remain inextricably intertwined. The tribe of Dan, the Danae who populated Greece, the Tuatha de Danaan who are the fairyfolk of Ireland, spread around the world, carrying their ethics with them in the mind memes of the Old Testament. Kill for any reason, and call it holy, as long as it is profitable.
Today our freedom of speech — and our freedom of thought — is manacled as surely as William Blake recorded the harlot’s curse in long-ago London. “Blights with plagues the marriage hearse.”
Only today, all is permissable within the new streamlined, alluring and utterly soulless American media spectrum, except for one subject.
The Holocaust. The most untouchable of topics. We may not discuss it. In many countries — most of Europe, in fact — they’ll throw you in jail and throw away the keys in a pile of trivialities, and you’ll never see your home again. Just ask Ernst Zundel, or any of his other thought comrades jailed in Germany after being renditioned from elsewhere for simply reporting the unbiased, empirical facts of World War II.
The unbiased empirical facts are that the Germans didn’t gas anybody during World War II, that there was no “final solution” planned other than deportation to Palestine, and that the great shame of Jewish leaders forever throughout history — and why they were probably banned by God in the Bible — is that the worldwide Jewish organizations were complicit with Hitler in the herding of Jews and their deaths were largely caused by the Allied bombing of 1945, after which typhus and starvation raged. The founders of Israel wanted those people dead, because they didn’t want them in Israel. No valid evidence of gas chambers exists. Plenty of people died; war is like that. AP reported 875,000 Jews total in a 1947 report. And the religion of the Six Million marches on, demolishing whole societies in its ugly path.
And here’s another in the endless examples of why Jews don’t believe in freedom of speech.
As we speak, Professor Robert Faurisson of France faces years in jail for simply saying “show me evidence of gas chambers” on Iran’s Sahar TV (my favorite station, as a matter of fact). I have spoken of these matters on this same show nine times and said far worse than Faurisson. Maybe I should go to France, eh?
All we are actually are asking is for Jews to prove their hysterical interpretations of history are true, but they can’t do that, so they bribe people and make laws prohibiting discussion of the subject, because they know they will lose any neutrally judged debate.
This is the Jewish war on freedom of speech. You will believe this false, twisted history, or you will go to jail. If you want to forever erase any notion you may still entertain that Germans mass-gassed Jews, read Paul Grubach’s magnificent recap of the debate:
Ironically, it is, I believe, a very favorable sign for the future of Holocaust revisionism that most of the Western power elites refuse to debate the Holocaust revisionists, but only resort to name calling, threats of career destruction and jail sentences. It suggests to the world that Holocaust revisionism cannot be defeated with evidence and reason. The opponents of revisionism are intellectually impotent, and they cannot defeat revisionism with facts, evidence and logic. The “Holocaust” is a weak and flimsy ideology that needs special laws, threats of career destruction and jail sentences to protect it.
www.rense.com/general69/gasccm.htm
Freedom of speech? Forget about it. Jews don’t believe in freedom of speech. Jews control the Congress, the media, the banks, the movie theaters, the product distribution centers, the big stores, your local governments, the medical and legal professions, your schools. Jews control your lives, in thousands of ways you don’t even realize. They speak, and you listen, just like Pavlov taught.
On the surface, they pretend to be slightly above average citizens, excelling in schools tailored for them and arriving in the job spectrum on a high level, guaranteeing their dominance over others. The new mafia is definitely Jewish, and running the government, as well.
This is how it works in Congress, too. No one gets even to run without the approval of the Jews, and its monster organizations, AIPAC and the ADL. The precious few who get past the initial filters usually are crushed in general elections either by an avalanche of Jewish money and negative Jewish media coverage, or, worse, bought off to twist their message in a certain slight way to favor a certain slight group.
For those of you who would bluster and fume that this is anti-Semitism, I say it is evidence of crimes, committed down through history against everyone by one single group which today has much of the world in flames because of its insane avarice.
The real crime is that they are allowed to continue to do what they do. Continued ignorance of this insidious social poison is now in the process of destroying much of the world.
John Kaminski is a writer who lives on the Gulf Coast of Florida and is very ashamed to say he is an American after all the needless murders that have been committed in the name of Americans. His Internet essays can been seen on hundreds of websites around the world, and his latest collection of them, “Recipe for Extinction” is available at www.johnkaminski.com
July 26th, 2006 at 9:38 am
It is the natural state of man to want to live, and do so free. In a religious aspect, no mortal human being is in the position to declare who does or does not have the right to live.
Yet I see all these religious zealots spitting out “Israel has no right to exist,” followed with “God bless Lebanon!”
All men have the right to defend themselves. We’ll get that taken care of right now. If it is intentional that Israel litter southern Lebanon’s civilians with casualties, then their right was abused. But that does not remove them from the initial right.
Israel being the larger force is a lot harder to stop on its own, given its newfound momentum. So what would be the easiest route to making all of this come to an end? Hezbollah.
Hezbollah claims to fight for Lebanon? Look what the group is causing. Hiding among civilians, antagonizing a much greater, and meaner nation. Even in the light of Israel’s obvious might over both Hezbollah and Lebanon, Hezbollah continues, and threatens escalation.
The group does not give a damn about Lebanon and continues to use it and its civilians as a shield, while continuing to egg the “monster” on.
Finish this, Lebanon. I do not see Israel stopping until Hezbollah is taken care of. Lebanese civilians and the Lebanese government are the sole forces that can make sure Hezbollah never returns.
The loss of innocent lives, no matter what side of the border, is tragic.
But what’s even more tragic is when the loss blinds people into a heated rage, making them willing to wish acts upon a group far worse than what’s being committed now.
July 26th, 2006 at 10:56 am
ISRAELI AGRESSION IS ONLY DUE TO NON SENSE MUSLIMS LEADERS WHO ARE FULLY ENJOYING THE VINES AND BEAUTIFUL GIRLS. THIS AGRESSION CAN NOT BE STOPPED UNTIL AND UNLESS MUSLIM PPL TURN DOWN THEIR NON SENSE LEADERS. ISRAEL WILL TAKE POSSESSION OF ALL MUSLIM COUNTRIES ONE BY ONE.
July 26th, 2006 at 11:24 am
Why??
There are so many other things better then this!!
Like sex… just becouse the leaders do not have any DICK they dont have the right to do it!
MFs!
July 26th, 2006 at 11:32 am
everyone should stop their crying, this is gods will! god wants the bombing and the death.
both sides claim to have god on their side. so god must want to thin the hurd some. both sides of the conflict say god willing i will stop the other, and now god is willing it, so they are killing each other. this is gods will. and the rest of the world gets to see it on T.V. this is gods will. and the hate will be taught to the children so they will kill. this is gods will also. i write this not from my own want but it is gods will i write. stop your crying!
its gods will!
July 26th, 2006 at 11:38 am
Hate Israel
Love Labnon
Love Hazbullah
Next world war abt to begin..now where is So Called United Nation ?? :@ and All muslims should unite together.
May Allah Bless Labnon [Aameen]
July 26th, 2006 at 11:52 am
God is a non existent supreme being created by man’s immagination. When men stop believing that God has a chosen people and God gives murderers virgins to boink with for all eternity, then God will die– as God should. Enough human misery already! Geesh! Stop the reasons, stop justifying it, stop lying! Human beings have been given an extraordinary gift from the never beginning, never ending universe. Our existence is an extremely short blink in time. We need to cherish it and make the most of it, not squander it and throw it away as if it were nothing!
July 26th, 2006 at 11:59 am
allah has blessed lebanon, with bombs.
allah has blessed israel, with rockets
stop your crying!
its gods will
July 26th, 2006 at 12:00 pm
The governments which spread the war while saying they bring peace and freedom and talking in the name of god are just worshipping the devil with this.
I cant believe my senses when they say that stopping the war right now is wrong and a diplomatic “solution” comes after the war. They are false and twisted
when they are saying such things, they are like vipers with toxic inside of their words.
I really hope that GOD himself will kick such people which spread the war or accept the war and do nothing but talking shit like “they have the right of “self-
defense”" from their positions so that no person can do war any longer. People who like the war, accept the war, close their eyes, or make war are WRONG in the
politic. Such governments and doings will fall down deep.
I god will help you all who are in trouble right now, you have my tears and my prayings. I know god will help you soon cause i know GOD and he is great and he
only has real power. I know he will come soon to help you. God is love and he hates war, specially war in the name of “god”. Just the devil makes war in his “god”
name cause the devil wants to be a “god” but he is just a LOSER.
May god will give you much of love and may god will help you soon, i really think he will help you soon.
Israel also is not evil, this country also has civilianz which hates the war but the ones who make the war and like the war are evil when they act so. I hope some
of the lebanon people will not hate israel cause israel is like lebanon filled with many innocent lovely people like you are, i hope you understand what i mean.
Many many blessing and all the good and the best from god.
- from germany
July 26th, 2006 at 12:10 pm
Where is the cevilized nations , and where is the democracy in the world , I wonder how can we make the people of the middleast democratic nations and we are approving this kind of killing ,
July 26th, 2006 at 12:19 pm
www.mayyoubeblessedmovie.com
is the right link ..
why is my post deleted ? Because why i said israel isnt evil.
The government is evil when they make war but not israels innocent people.
Saying israel must die is stupid and not much betten like the war from israels WAR GOVERNMENT.
The innocent people make no war but the war government, this is a difference.
Israel is like libanon a country with lovely humans.
July 26th, 2006 at 12:26 pm
and no god dont want war .. god is against war and killing ..
he loves the people from israel and also the people from lebanon ..
hating israel is stupid .. hating the the war is good ..
it is not gods will that people must die, people who think so or act so
are just stupid and blinded .. they victims ..
July 26th, 2006 at 12:28 pm
Hate Israel
Love Labnon
Love Hazbullah
Next world war abt to begin..now where is So Called United Nation ?? :@ and All muslims should unite together andstop supplying OIL to the Western Countries now this is the wars between Muslims and Non Muslims.
May Allah Bless Labnon and all MUslim Ummah [Aameen]
July 26th, 2006 at 12:31 pm
In response to Zeenie 11:26 today…Thank you, it is refreshing to hear your intelligent comments! Some of these folks are pretty backwards, kind of frightful..They still don’t deserve to be bombed of course!
The great scientist ,Einstein, used the word God to describe nature….
July 26th, 2006 at 12:33 pm
hate against israel is hate against humans, nothing more, hating israel is even more stupid than the war against lebanon from israels GOVERNMENT
man, understand that some people making war not whole israel , you silly vipers
July 26th, 2006 at 12:50 pm
when some people say “hate israel”, “love lebanon” .. they are wrong, believe me or not, god do NOT want war, and it does NOT matter who fight against whom or why they fight, NO, god is peace and when some people say they want love but they like to hate others they are just morons
god is loving not hating, hate the bombs and the crime and hate their doings , hate their words when they are filled with war but dont hate them, they dont know what they do and GOD himself will act to fight such people, no weapons needed, no, god needs no weapons and people dont need
weapons too, weapons are only killers and hate against humans or israel will just kill your soul and your mind …
i dont care about hizbollah and i dont care about the us government, every human who makes war, no matter why is evil while doing it, there are no good ones or better ones, if you kill or you like to kill you are EVIL, nothing more and nothing less
Jesus said it all in the bible, and no i am not jewish, i am christian and i dont have nothing against muslims …
July 26th, 2006 at 12:54 pm
Les gens en général semblent se contenter des informations/propagande que les médias occidentaux leurs apportent. La réaction d’Israel face à l’enlèvement de deux soldats et le meurtre de 3 autres n’est en rien proportionnelle. Ce sont les civils libanais qui sont les principales victimes. Pendant ce temps, le gouvernement américain et ses alliés/marionnettes affirment qu’Israel a “le droit de se défendre”, voire détruire une fois plus le Liban et massacrer son peuple. Comment doivent se sentir les libanais? Terrorisés? Très certainement. Cela fait donc d’Israel un état terroriste par définition.
Je suis par ailleurs dégoûté du manque de réaction de la planète face à de telles atrocités. Quand allons-nous voir un éveil spirituel des populations, ou plutôt, combien de millions de morts faudra-t-il? Depuis quelques temps, j’ai honte d’être un humain. Nous sommes seuls sur notre minuscule planète et tout ce qu’on trouve à faire est de s’entre-tuer. L’image que nous donnons à des êtres plus évolués qui nous observent(s’ils existent) est celle d’un peuple primitif aux instincts barbares. L’Homme a pourtant un potentiel immense lorsqu’il ouvre son coeur… mais semble être aux prises avec des forces malveillantes au sein de certains gouvernements, et au-delà. Ma confiance en la race humaine s’épuise. Mes pensées vont aux libanais et aux palestiniens qui souffrent injustement.
July 26th, 2006 at 12:57 pm
i have nothing against muslims .. i didnt spoke it right , sorry
July 26th, 2006 at 1:14 pm
Re: Where is the United Nations? Why they are the ones behind all this in an attempt to further consolidate their power into their totalitarian one world government. The politicians play a good game to act powerless or look stupid but in truth they are calculating power hungry tyrants.
The globalist agenda must be stopped.
July 26th, 2006 at 1:41 pm
I’m Brazilian and current living in Vancouver, Ca. I’m working hard with some dear Lebanese-Canadian friends to press Canadian politicians to join strength to stop this horrible killing in Lebanon and Palestine. I’d like to know if any of your guys, have figures about the losses in Lebanon, not only regarding human lives, but also about infra-strutucture. Website links are welcome. Thanks in advance.
Hoping to see peace all around the world soon,
Regi.
July 26th, 2006 at 1:49 pm
This is horrifying, saddening, and sick all at the same time.
Israel is trying to provoke WW3 and we all know they are intentionally targetting civilians, civilian infrastructure, ambulances, and apparently UN workers now.
They want the Lebanonese to support Hizbollah so they have an enemy and an excuse to carry out this aggression.
I can’t believe the world is this f***** up…
July 26th, 2006 at 4:57 pm
isreals what did lebanon do to make you mad?please stop we sre not happy for you because its our country and we love that country so much.why you destroyed lebanon for why?you should be ashmamed of yourself! STOP DESTROYING LEBANON YOU DAMN ISREALS!!!! OR ELSE THE LEBANESE PEOPLE CAN DESTROY YOUR COUNTRY
July 26th, 2006 at 6:39 pm
peace to the middle east
peace to the middle east
July 26th, 2006 at 6:41 pm
May allah be upon you
July 26th, 2006 at 6:44 pm
today is day thirteen and more people are dying day by day and more people r getting injured day by day, y y y y y y ????? wen is this war gonna end wen??????????????? it’s enough we had enough lebanon had enough………… r u happy? well i think u r so stop torchering us stop
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July 26th, 2006 at 6:46 pm
russian go to hell and damn u
July 26th, 2006 at 7:10 pm
Isn’t it funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then
wonder why the world is the way it is.
Isn’t it funny how we always believe what the newspapers say, but
question what the Bible says.
Isn’t it funny how everyone wants to go to heaven provided
they do not have to believe, think, say, or do anything the Bible
says? Or is it scary?
Isn’t it funny how someone can say “I believe in God” but still
follow Satan (who, by the way, also acknowledges God’s existence).
Isn’t it funny how you can send a thousand jokes through e-mail
and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending
messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing..
Isn’t it funny how the lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene pass
freely through cyberspace, but the public discussion of Jesus is
suppressed in the school and workplace?
Isn’t it funny how someone can be so fired up for Christ on Sunday,
but be an invisible Christian the rest of the week.
Are you laughing?
Isn’t it funny how when you go to repost this you will think twice
because you dont know who will read it and what they will think of you
for reposting it
Isn’t it funny how I can be more worried about what other
people think of me than what God thinks of me?
What do u think of God?
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July 26th, 2006 at 7:10 pm
im a 20 years old lebanese girl livin in beirut under these hard circumstances. i always ask my self dont u people have tvs in ur homes, aren’t u watching what is happenning? don’t you have an opinion, anything to say! they are killing innocents, destroying everything…but god is watching and as they claim they are “hezeb alla meaning the party of god” god have a “7ezeb=party nowadays waw..!! as a lebanese girl i lost faith in my country and in all the world..israel is not the terrorist neither is hozballah but the whole world “i believe” is now hunted by terrorism and we are giving them a password to enter our lives play with our minds and than destroy us …thank you
July 26th, 2006 at 8:05 pm
I once again say this to all who do not have privi to the truth! (dani) If Israel was to have stayed to the borders it was allocated in 1976, all this and all in the past would not have happened. The term terrorist is being used to casually.
1982 I was there with my Mum when the Israeli Invaded Beirut. Killing almost 20′000 Chritians&Muslems.Lebanese!!!
Israel is the reason Hizballah has developed and is what it is today.
Because of the Iraeli army HizbAllah stands on the Border.
‘YOU PUT THEM THERE’ I saw what happened in Beirut in ‘82. Hizballah started as a resistance,they did not just “happen”
I ask you, what did Beirut do in 1982 to Israel??
The Irony is that it is you ,the Israeli army who created Hizballah.
Also to more current days…For the past 10 years Hizzballah has been asking the Israeli air force to stop flying over Labanons air space causing the very loud bangs that are sonic booms caused by the f16 flying over and breaking the sound barrier! This lound explosion breaks windows when the planes fly low enough! I was there and felt it when your house shakes!!!
Also Hizballah asked the Israeli army to clear the mines from the farms in the south in Lebanese land! these mines are killing or hurting the farmers and children who live on the farms!!! The Isareli army has the technology to clear these mines that seem to be there suddenly one day and not the day before!!??
Now all this does not make the international news stage does it!!??!! I was there and saw it first hand!!! I did not need to wait for the news flash!!!
Also Hizballah has asked to return the Lebanese prisoners that are in Israeli prisons!!! for Ten years this is asked of you!!!
Today you say self defence! Not ever, no way this is self defence!
Long live Lebanon
Long live Lebanon
Long live Lebanon
July 26th, 2006 at 10:13 pm
To, dani,elias,anti,sensible,douglas,hamerlock,suzaane j and all who have the same opinion…
I appreciate your trying to put forward your opinions.
But if you believe in what you say you either lie or are misinformed! You are all wrong.
Long live Lebanon
Long live Lebanon
Long live Lebanon
July 26th, 2006 at 11:43 pm
- Stop these activities…
Why America Support Isreal, Where is Human rights….now….
America and and Israel are no more…..
July 27th, 2006 at 12:04 am
When I read history, there are always people who glorify war. Napoleon, Hitler, Gen Patton etc etc. There are people who can say , like Condoleeza Rice , that the suffering of the Lebanese and Israeli people are ‘birth pangs’. Those are the people who lead us into such misery. We must stop following them , stop electing them. Every time a war starts in a country , the popularity of the leader increases. What is the matter with us that that is so? The people who are commiting the most atrocious crimes in the world today have been elected by the people. Do we not have the governments we deserve? More importantly, can we not change it?
July 27th, 2006 at 12:45 am
Mr.John Kaminski, for the first time someone speaks real truth, dating back thousands of years. Thank you.
Peace is close for Lebanon,
Long live Lebanon.
July 27th, 2006 at 1:26 am
To Halafi, well said & God bless.Long live Lebanon.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:10 am
Dani Dani ya Dani
Please I need a favor from you
Can you define terrorism to me please?
when u say Hizballah are TERRORISTS for kidnapping 2 SOLDIERS
and Israel has a RIGHT to RESPOND by killing over 500 CIVILLIANS don’t you think there is something wrong in the defenition of terrorism???
How can terrorism mean attacking soldiers and a response mean attacking civillians.
One more thing Dani, concider this: lets us both imagine that Israel is lebanon and Lebanon is Israel. Meaning that Israel kidnapped two soldiers from Lebanon and in response Lebanon bombed israel’s airports, and roads and infrastructures and bridges and leveled buildings in neighborhood to the ground killing civillians and rendering around HALF A MILLION if not more homeless or displaced. WHO WOULD BE THE TERRORIST IN YOUR OPINION??? I bet Lebanon again. so u see my friend, There is no defenition to terrorism, the weak people who defend their lands in the means that they can afford (we can’t afford ur weapons nor are we allowed by u and the USA to have them) those weak people that we are, are called terrorists not because they are but because U and the USA control the world and the media and therefore brainwash all the people of the rest of the so called civilised world into believing what u want them to believe.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:40 am
And western leaders approve israeli assaults? Self defense? Killing thousands and attacking civilian buildings and ambulance and hospitals equates to the life of 2 soldiers? What kind of maths is this?
July 27th, 2006 at 2:47 am
bu mübarek aylarda dua edelim dostlar.katil israillin helak olması için..ya rabbi katil amerika ve israli kahret.akıttıkları kanlar içinde boğ onları Allahım.siz ey müslümanlar eğer bu saldırılara sesinizi çıkarmamağa devam ederseniz bu kan,bu sizin üzerinize de sıçrayacak.bu vebalin altından kalkamazsınız.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:55 am
To Ayoub
Thanks but I rather lie down with a rattle snake than Dani …… Becoz I know for sure that the rattle will strike. People like Dani camoflage their poision in rightousness.
To Dani
Perhaps I should clarify something to you. I am Lebanese, I was born in Lebanon, but raised in Australia. I travelled to Lebanon in 1995 and fell in love with the country of my birth. I was also an eye witness (or should that be ear witness) to the sonic booms that Israel has been scaring the Lebanese with on a regular basis for years. I was scared witless cause I was indoors and didnt know what was happening and the windows broke in the house I was staying in which is in the North of Lebanon. I was christened into the Catholic faith, but I adhere to no organised religion. I am not a hater of Jews, or Muslims nor any other religion or race. But I am a hater of the lies and misconceptions that Israel and the US governments are trying to drown us with. Its grieves me to see Lebanon unceremoniously destroyed YET AGAIN by the Israeli army. Hezballah are not annialating Israel, no one has been able to this (and I AM NOT saying that anyone should) Israelis have a right to a life of peace, but so does everyone else.
Hezballah started as a resistance to the Israeli occupation of Lebanon and it was due to Hezballah that Israeli occupying forces were finally removed. So its existence is not the fault of the lebanes but the Israelies. And again I tell you that I do not condone their violent actions …….. But again they are merely trying to protect their people, just as you say Israel has a right to do. Why is Israel allowed to defend with unprecedented violence against innocents, but Hezballah are terrorist and Israel is rightous. It is these double standards that infuriate me. Anyone that opposes Israel and the US are labled terrorist. Hezballah did noy start this destruction of Lebanon …….. ISRAEL DID.
You claim that Israel is doing what it needs to do to protect itself. And all Im trying to say is that Israel is killing and targeting civillians, women, children, ambulances, united nations officials. (STOP with the BS that these were merely accidents)
The people who went out to march against the war in Iraqu were branded Saddam supporters. The people who came out to march against this carnage in Lebanon are branded terrorist supporters. Anyone against Israel in anitsematic and anyone against US policies is a Terrorist.
Below is an excert from an article by an american journalist
**** Israel used the capturing of the three Israeli prisoners as a pretext to wage a larger war on the inhabitants of the Occupied Territories and Lebanon. Still bitter about Hezbollah forcefully driving the Israeli military out of south Lebanon in 2000 and emboldened by Hamas’ election sweep in January, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert reaffirmed that Israelis “will not be held hostage to terror.” But Israelis, as Olmert maintains, “will fight with all the strength we are capable of,” which includes the use of terrorism against civilian populations. At no point is it appropriate for a United Nation’s member state, a signatory to the Geneva Conventions, and a self-proclaimed “moral democracy” to act in this manner.
Under No circumstances is a nation allowed to attack another sovereign nation’s civilian population with the use of physical force, economic strangulation and collective punishment due to “provocation” caused by a non government entity. Particularly when the aggressor state is accusing other nations of orchestrating the attacks. While 23 Hezballah are representatives in the Lebanese parliment, Hezballah is not the Lebanese government, nor does Israel claim it to be. Furthermore, many critics are condemning Israel for its “disproportionate use of force.” While many of these critics astutely recognize the brutality inherent in Israel’s offensive, it is necessary to note that proportionality does not apply to the endangering of civilian life and the collective punishment of the civilian population; civilians must never be targeted.
Israel lost its moral compass through its creation. The “disproportional use of force” against the indigenous civilian population of Palestine has been its cardinal sin. The firm policy of keeping an ethnic Jewish majority through means of violence and might is a cancer that will always plague the state. Today, the majority of the Israeli population is rallying around Olmert and Israel’s absolute right to “defend” itself. This tends to be the case when Israel is engaging in a military offensive. The US population has not always been as supportive of its government’s use of military force. Americans eventually turned on the war in Vietnam; many are now turning on the war in Iraq. Just as most Americans understood that Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, the massacres in Haditha, and the recent raping of the 14-year-old Iraqi girl by US soldiers were wrong, they immediately realized that the attacks on the innocent people of Lebanon were deplorable. It is too soon to tell how strongly this will affect the American outlook, but one can only hope that it produces a change of unprecedented proportions.
July 27th, 2006 at 4:14 am
Les Etats Unis combattent le terrorisme par le terrorisme d’état (Liban, palestine et Irak). Combien de morts civils sont tombés dans cette guerre contre le terrorisme ? Surement beaucoup beaucoup beaucoup plus que les victimes d’attentats terroristes et tous ça pour rien parce que la violence engendre la violence. Les états Unis disent qu’il faut un moyen orient nouveau..Je suis d’accord avec ça : il faut un moyen orient sans l’état d’Israël . Mais aussi il faut des nouveaux Etats Unis avec un peuple plus intelligent et plus informé ainsi que des dirigeants moins meurtriers ! vive le liban et vive la résistance libanaise
July 27th, 2006 at 4:21 am
may allah help the people of leaobnan form the evil hands.
July 27th, 2006 at 4:31 am
C’est la première fois dans l’histoire des nations unis qu’un cessez le feu n’est pas demandé face à une telle crise et pourquoi ? parce qu’il s’agit d’Israël l’intouchable, le petit protégé des Etats Unis. Est ce ça la justice mondiale ? qu’est ce qu’on va pouvoir dire aux extrémistes et aux ‘terroristes’ maintenant ? Pour la première fois le monde entier demande plus de mort innocents et plus de destruction. Ce n’est pas une guerre mes amis c’est une exécution sommaire d’un pays avec la complicité du dirigeants du monde entier. Israël ne veut aucune résistance à proximité. Elle veut modéler tout le moyen orient pour avoir la paix mais elle l’aura jamais. Face à ça on a vite choisit son Camp. Vive la résistance contre l’Occupation Israëlienne. Vive le Liban
July 27th, 2006 at 4:37 am
They all regime May Allah Destroy them. Ohh God please give permission to our Imam Mehdi AS that he comes and spread peace all over the world
July 27th, 2006 at 5:58 am
they talk about holocaust ? pfffffffffffffffffffffffff
today they proved to the WHOLE world they are the masters in mass killing ! the great nation of the israely killers ! for tens of years all you did and still do is killing killing killing !!! are you even humans ? i wonder you sound more like beastial creatures bloody monsters . where ever and what ever you touch you bring distuction and death !!!
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STOP THIS INHUMAN GENOCIDE
WE ALL ARE HUMANS AND EQUALS IN THE EYES OF GOD !
July 27th, 2006 at 6:49 am
May God put his wrath on Israel Army.
July 27th, 2006 at 6:50 am
Salamz to all my Lebanese brothers n sisters, I saw these pics my heart is crying to see all these pics it’s a cowardly attempt of israel n support of america to Israel on these attempts. America said itself a civilized nation these pics r tell the truth that how much they r really civilized, they r bluffing everywhere, I think a beast may b better form them. We the youth n all nation of pakistan with u n shares yr pain. We all pray for all ppl over there my whole nation praying to ALLAH to make peace over there
July 27th, 2006 at 7:50 am
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July 27th, 2006 at 7:59 am
Shi’ite killing Sunni and vice versa in Iraq and now this:
“Al-Qaeda’s deputy leader Ayman al Zawahri has warned his group will not stand by and watch Israel bombard Lebanon and the Palestinians, calling on Muslims to fight those who support the attacks…
Zawahri also lambasted “impotent, treacherous” Arab governments for their feeble response to the Israeli attacks.
Zawahri’s statement was the first comment by the Sunni Muslim-dominated al-Qaeda against Israel’s war on Lebanon, which was sparked by the capture of two Israeli soldiers by Shi’ite Muslim guerrilla group Hizbollah….
The al-Qaeda deputy did not mention Hizbollah, but called on Muslims to wage jihad or holy war against all countries in the “crusader alliance” that support the Israeli bombardment….
In previous statements, Zawahri and al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden have referred to Shi’ites as “infidels”.
Never has the saying “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” been so true.
So what’s going to happen - Shi’ite extremists and Sunni extremists are going to have a kiss and makeup session in Iraq then band together to fight Israel then when that is finished (and they have lost) go back to fighting each other in Iraq and probably Lebanon also?
You can’t live together so what hope is there for peace in the middle east? Even if you destroyed Israel as many above have indicated they would like to see happen, you would then turn on each other.
The only answer is for moderate muslims to take control and eliminate the minority extremist groups if there is to be any chance of peace and co-existence.
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. I know, the responses will be fast and furious claiming Israel is a terrorist state, run by extremists, interested in taking over all of the middle east and destroying everything in its path.
Moderates reading this will understand what I am talking about, but regarding extremists who support groups like Hezbollah and Hamas who both have their declared aim as being to destroy Israel, well what hope is there with them as their only answer is to shoot and kill anyone who disagrees with them - be it Israeli or fellow muslim.
Fast coming to the conclusion that the US, UK, Australia and others should get out of Iraq and let the locals sort out their mess on their own as they sure as hell don’t want peace, or god forbid, democracy.
July 27th, 2006 at 8:05 am
Искренне надеюсь, что Израилю яйца открутят за этот поганый беспредел.
Hope Israel will be crushed by lebanon people and others.
July 27th, 2006 at 8:12 am
Thanks Greg - appreciate your honesty.
July 27th, 2006 at 8:25 am
I AGREE WITH “ANGRY AT THE LIES”, Israel did indeed lose its moral compass through its creation. Israel is a state founded on a sick joke – to preserve the precious life of israeli few while other lives around them are like ants to be squashed and obliterated.
“the firm policy of keeping an ethnic jewish majority through violence and might is a cancer that will always plague the state” – nothing could be truer.
I have seen the pictures of those once beautiful children and babies. My heart is just broken and I am devastated by the lack of compassion and other appropriate response by Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia. These countries hold hands with Zionist Israel and Ignorant power-hungry USA.
July 27th, 2006 at 8:41 am
John Kaminski - so what part of the word JEW don’t you like??? Eh ???
Your website really shows your true colours - you probably don’t like blacks, immigrants or gay people either.
www.johnkaminski.com
From your website: “The Perfect Enemy” reveals that the al-Qaeda terror network is a fictional creation of the bloodthirsty maniacs who have seized control of the United States of America and now threaten the health and
well-being of everyone in the world.
You really are a sick puppy !!!! but I guess you are making heaps of money from like-minded people around the world, and god knows there are plenty around.
By the way - kaminski is a Jewish name. The famous JEWISH actor Danny Kaye was born Kaminski.
July 27th, 2006 at 8:43 am
Hi Karen - did you cry when innnocent children were murdered in buses blown up by suicide bodies???
Why do you think Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait etc. etc. etc. are not getting involved? They understand the threat of extremism to their regimes and are happy to see somone doing something about it lest these extremists get the upper hand and then target moderate Arab states in an attempt to convert them to Islamic fundamentalism.
You know what? Maybe the US should tell the UN to leave New York and stop funding this useless organisation - about as useful as tits on a bull. If it wasn’t for the US the UN wouldn’t exist as it is US funding that primarily keeps the UN going.
July 27th, 2006 at 8:54 am
This is not war its Murder……… mass killing instead……… tought by America
July 27th, 2006 at 8:55 am
So all you good jewish people of Israel – how do you like your country now? They are lying and saying Hezbollah fired first ! So all you decent folks of Israel and Haifa – how does it feel to have state of the art shelters and great sounding alarm systems to warn you of incoming rockets? Lebanon has none of these fine things to protect her and her people!
All you God-loving people of Israel — why would you let your children sign their name on rockets and missiles that will later shatter the bodies of innocent, unprotected Lebanon, that will shatter their dreams and visions of a fine life and future that was once Lebanon’s.
How do you SLEEP Israeli people, knowing you support and probably agree with the Monster policies of your sick and twisted Monster government? Can you sleep? Can you live in peace? How can you when the smell of Lebanon’s blood is carried on the wind and directly into your safe, comfortable homes, into your safe comfortable lives? Is it that you sleep because you have no conscious? Like your pathetic government of demons?
July 27th, 2006 at 9:14 am
may Allah help them…
July 27th, 2006 at 9:58 am
Por favor que no existe algunas autoridades que puedan parar esta masacre por que permiten que Israel cometa esta barbarie contra gente inocente, lo material se recupera con millones de dolares pero las vidas de tantos niños inocentes como las pueden recuperar?
July 27th, 2006 at 10:12 am
Stop all this repetative banter about who started it and whose fault it is, take a minute to scroll back to the top and look at the pictures. These are not soldiers in war or freedom fighters, terrorists or any other fighting organisation these are civilians who do not support it or ask for the consequences of this.
Every nation, race and religion should not be taking sides but trying to stop the killing on both sides. The terrorists should be given up for trial and the commanders of the Isreal military who have and are targetting civilians should be put in front of a UN war crimes judge.
Be you muslim, jewish, christian, buddist, sikh, hindu, or any other religion please pray to your god to stop the murder of innocent civilians, pray to bring peace to the region, and pray to bring justice to the people responsible for these attrocities.
July 27th, 2006 at 10:30 am
Whoooo! poor dani, I guess John Kaminski hit a raw nerve with you — poor thing. Gettin all upset?? I guess I hit a raw nerve, too.
But with all THAT aside, your arrogance knows no boundaries - does it? And by the by, your long fancy, so called educated tirades are booooorrring to say the least. You really have nothing to say for it’s the same fancy junk that churns out of your great god CNN.
July 27th, 2006 at 12:09 pm
I am a blond, green-eyed American. My entire life (from the age of 2) has been dedicated to Middle Eastern music. I taught myself to read and write Arabic when I was 17 years old, have traveled to Kuwait, Jordan, the UAE, and the West Bank — playing music all the way. I decided that I wanted to live in the Middle East for a period of time and went to Lebanon. When the plane landed, I was so taken aback by the mountains and the beautiful landscape that I felt like I was coming home. I met many wonderful people and played music at the Conservatoire, LBC, and Simon Asmar’s restaurants. I met someone and got married there. Much later, my son was born up the mountain from Bellouneh. While we left when he was still small, we still have family and friends there.
I am aching with sadness for all who are suffering there now. I came to know the Lebanese as strong and resilient people and I wish I could implant my memories into every other American mind so they could understand that these are not just pictures of some far off land. As complicated as the issues are, as deep the emotions, and twisted the history… I will always think of the friends and family I have who are confronting what is happening TODAY. I am absolutely disgusted with the complacency of all forces that could make a difference in this violence, but choose to stand by. I can’t believe how much media coverage stupid issues get in the USA while people are being murdered right under our noses!? It’s absolutely maddening!!!!!
WAKE UP AMERICANS!! DON’T YOU REMEMBER YOUR OWN SHOCK AND HORROR AT 9/11??? TAKE SOME ACTION!!!!! “TERRORISM” IS AN ABSOLUTELY SUBJECTIVE WORD!!!!
July 27th, 2006 at 12:51 pm
Dani… what are you doing on a PRO LEBANESE web site? This is not about anti-semitism…it is about being anti-arab on your part. You take our land, you take our children, hospitals and education away. You take our rights to passports and papers, our rights to ownership. You leave us with nothing and then kill us one by one infront of our mothers. Don’t pretend Israel is innocent, i’ve done my research… what happened in WW2 doesn’t compare to what your country is doing to the Arabs. I’ve read the articles about the Palestinians being lined up and shot one by one, and about the Palestinians being burried alive. I’ve heard my grandfather telling me about his stolen land which is now occupied by Israeli forces. This is not a war. this is a genocide. All your country wants is to rid the world of Arabs… and it will never happen. We have been on this land and left our mark from before the biblical times and our mark will be left for a long time after mankind is dead.
…Israel and the USA is not riding the Middle East of Terrorism, for every child they kill, a new “terrorist” idea is born. stop the murder….
July 27th, 2006 at 1:05 pm
when does this fukin war gonna stop?! doesnt the hezbollah n the israelian had enough of killin innocent ppl ?! didnt they notice that all the ppl bein killed are innocent kids! fuk them!!! fuk hezbollah n israel !! it was the best summer i ever had n now they ruined everythin !! let the israel ruin only el jnoub not all the country !!! n the hezbollah r proud of wat they’re doin ?! all the country is fuked up now !! hop they will all b killed, i mean the hezbollah !! i just hope that this war will end soon coz until now, theyres no results..n hope that lebanon will rebuilt its houses n everythin coz its reallly the greatest country, even tough it small !!hop that som countries are gonna help leb.. we are all comin bak to lebanon!! the tourists wont stop !!! may god b with u lebanon !! lovv (K)
July 27th, 2006 at 1:17 pm
yeah lea is right, lebanon is very nice country, torrists must come back to continue their summer holidays and guess what, u can do shopping in lebanon and it’s only 5 minutes from the mountains to the cost!!! Lea, would you please open ur eyes and have some respect at least for the people who died. the war ruined your summer, is that all you care about. i guess you must be 12 years old max.
July 27th, 2006 at 1:58 pm
Mon dieux preserve nous de cette folie.
Mon coeur pleures des larme de sang quand je voix que le monde antier.
Continue a regarder ca comme si c’est normale quand leur tour viendra il sera trop tard.
je jette la pierre a perssone mais quand des enfants meure quel qui soit il resteron des enfants a tout jamais dans la memoire de leure proche.
July 27th, 2006 at 2:16 pm
STOP DESTROYING LEBANON !
THESE CHILDREN ARE BEING KILLED BY THE TERRORISTS ISRAEL . STOP THE WAR ON LEBANON . ENOUGHHHHH !!!!!
July 27th, 2006 at 2:56 pm
Dani- I’ve been reading your comments, and exactly wat are u trying to prove?
July 27th, 2006 at 3:26 pm
If any1 is talking about peace, then lebanon was living in peace. thats b4 Israel started the war by using these two soliders as an excuse of self defense. The only reason that Israel is doing all this, is so they can take over the middle east and wipe out all arabs. But what kills the moment is, Israel, the 2nd strongest army in the word, can’t and will not, defeat 6,000 soliders, not supported by the lebanese government(Hizbullah).
July 27th, 2006 at 3:31 pm
Jenna said - exactly wat are u trying to prove?
That there are two sides to every story. That blindness and single mindedness will not solve this or any other problem. That terrorism is not the way to get peace. That Israel has a RIGHT TO EXIST without the constant threat of attack by groups vowing to destroy Israel.
Probably a lot more but I just got up and need to go to work so will revisit later today.
Oh, and Andrew I am not anti Arab as you put it but I guess I will never convince you of that. Why am I here on a Pro Lebanon board? In democracy all sides have the right to present their side of an argument. and I don’t recall seeing a sign anywhere saying that only certain comments will be accepted on this board. If I am doing something wrong, I am sure the moderator of this board would have contacted me or “pulled” what I have written.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:32 pm
What I am watching in Lebanon each day is an outrage.
The beautiful viaduct that soars over the mountainside here has become a “terrorist” target. The Israelis attacked the international highway from Beirut to Damascus just after dawn and dropped a bomb clean through the central span of the Italian-built bridge a symbol of Lebanon’s cooperation with the European Union sending concrete crashing hundreds of feet down into the valley beneath. It was the pride of the numbered ex-prime minister Rafik Hariri, the face of a new, emergent Lebanon. And now it is a “terrorist” target.
So I drove gingerly along the old mountain road towards the Bekaa; the Israeli jets were hissing through the sky above me turned the corner once I rejoined the highway, and found a 50 feet crater with an old woman climbing wearily down the side on her hands and knees, trying to reach her home in the valley that glimmered to the east. This too had become a “terrorist” target.
It is now the same all over Lebanon. In the southern suburbs where the Hizbollah, captors of the two missing Israeli soldiers, have their headquarters a massive bomb had blasted off the sides of apartment blocks next to a church, splintering windows and crashing balconies down on to parked cars. This too had become a “terrorist” target.
One man was brought out shrieking with pain, covered in blood. Another “terrorist” target. All the way to the airport were broken bridges, holed roads. All these were “terrorist” tragets. At the airport, tongues of fire blossomed into the sky from aircraft fuel storage tanks, darkening west Beirut. These too were now “terrorist” targets. At Jiyeh, the Israelis attacked the power station. This too was a “terrorist” target.
Yet when I drove to the actual headquarters of the Hizbolla, a tall building in Haret Hreik, it was totally undamaged. Only the same night did the Israelis manage to hit it.
So can the Lebanese be forgiven? Can anyone here be forgiven for believing that the Israelis have a greater interest in destroying Lebanon that they do in their two soldiers?
No wonder Middle East Airlines, the national Lebanese airline, put crews into its four stranded Airbuses at Beirut airport early that day and sneaked them out of the country for Amman before the Israelis realised they were under power and leaving.
European politicians have talked about Israel’s “disporportionate” response to the capture of its soldiers. They are wrong. What I am now watching in Lebanon each day is an outrage. How can there be any excuses! Any for the 300 dead Lebanese civilians blown apart these past two weeks?
The same applies, of course, to the 24 Israeli civilians killed by Hizbollah rockets. But please note the exchange rate of Israeli civilian lives to Lebanese civilian lives now stands at one to more than 15. This does not include two children atomised in their home in Dweir whose bodies cannot be found. Their 6 brothers and sisters were buried, with their mother and father. Another “terrorist” target. So was a neighbouring family with 5 children who were also buried. Another “terrorist” target.
Terrorist, terrorist, terrorist. There is something perverse about all this, the slaughter and the massive destruction and the self-righteous, constant, cancerous use of the word “terrorist”. No, let us not forget that the Hizbollah broke international law, crossed the Israeli border, killed 3 Israeli soldiers, captured 2 others and dragged them back through the border fence. It was an act of calculated ruthlessness that should never allow Hizbollah’s leader, Hassan Nasrallah, to grin so broadly at his press conference. It has brought unparalleled tragedy to countless innocents in Lebanon. And of course, it has led Hizbollah to fire at least 270 rockets in Israel.
But what would happen if the powerless Lebanese government had unleashed air attacks across Israel the last time Israel’s troops crossed into Lebanon? What if the Lebanese air force killed 300 Israeli civilians in bombing raids in Ashkelon, Tel Aviv and Israeli West Jerusalem? What if a Lebanese fighter aircraft bombed Ben Gurion airport? What if a Lebanese plane destroyed 30 road bridges across Israel? Would it not be called “terrorism”? I rather think it would. But if Israel was the victim, it would probably also be World War Three.
Of course, Lebanon cannot attack Tel Aviv. Its air force comprises 3 ancient Hawker Hunters and an equally ancient fleet of Vietnam-era Huey helicopters. Syria, however, has missiles that can reach Tel Aviv. So Syria, which Israel rightly believes to be behind Hizbollah’s attack is not going to be bombed. It is Lebanon which must be punished.
The Israeli leadership intends to “break” the Hizbollah and destroy its “terrorist cancer”. Really? Do the Israelis really believe they can “break” one of the TOUGHEST guerrilla ARMIES in the WORLD? And HOW?
There are real issues here. Under UN Security Council Resolution 1559 the same resolution that got the Syrian army out of Lebanon the Shia Muslim Hizbollah should have been disarmed. They were not because, if the Lebanese Prime Minister, Fouad Siniora, had tried to do so, the Lebanese army would have had to fight them and the army would almost certainly have broken apart because most Lebanese soldiers are Shia Muslims. We could see the restarting of the civil war in Lebanon, a fact which Nasrallah is cynically aware of, but attempts by Siniora and his cabinet colleagues to find a new role for Hizbollah, which has a minister in the government foundered. And the greatest danger now is that the Lebanese government will collapse and be replaced by a pro-Syran government which could reinvite the Syrians back into the country.
So there’s a real conundrum to be sovled. But it’s not going to succeed with the mass bombing of the country by Israel. Nor the obsession with terrorists, terrorists, terrorists.
July 27th, 2006 at 3:42 pm
This forum is open to all opinions, and all points of view. There is no need to resort to personal attacks when trying to prove a point.
You have an opinion, I have an opinion, and we don’t necessarily have to agree all the time. Everyone’s entitled to their own.
All you can do is present your opinion, back it with factual arguments, and hope it makes a difference.
The only condition to posting here is respect.
You can say anything you want.
Diversity is not only welcome, it’s encouraged.
—-
A.D.
StopDestroyingLebanon.com
July 27th, 2006 at 3:49 pm
You Go Karen answering the intellectual Danni ! LOL
Some people really dictate what the media tell them
As for the Jewish guy who claims that Israel has the right to defend itself. This Bush saying, gives Lebanon protected by HIZBOLLAH to protect itself also. So your government will have to deal with people of FAITH, BELIEF, AND STRENGTH.
You are not fighting cold blooded extremists, and Hizbollah is not a terrorist organization. You are fighting the people of Mohammad. You are fighting people with faith, who believe in God and JIHAD. You believe in money and power and you are on the road of SELF DESTRUCTION
No matter how big you become, FAITH will always prevail because FAITH is JUSTICE
GOD BE WITH U HASSAN NASRALLA
July 27th, 2006 at 3:53 pm
this is war against terririost?
shame on israel, Just shame
now where is america , uk and other countries, i think they are blind,
hunnn,
SHammmmmmmmmmmmme
July 27th, 2006 at 4:08 pm
I am Afghan, reading your words watching to the news and crying… This breaks really my heart. I wish i could do anything, May God have mercy on lebanon people and give the strength to stay strong and to be able to face everything courageously….
I wish my words could be a shield against Israeli missiles and international apathy.
July 27th, 2006 at 4:12 pm
I am Afghan, reading your words watching to the news and crying… This breaks really my heart. I wish i could do anything, May God have mercy on lebanon people and give the strength to stay strong and to be able to face everything courageously….
I wish my words could be a shield against Israeli missiles and international apathy.
I love you all lebanon
a message from Afghanistan
July 27th, 2006 at 5:46 pm
lamentavel esta guerra , pura covardia estes ataques feito por israel
July 27th, 2006 at 6:34 pm
I have been to the U.S schools. I remember the history classes about WWII. We all have to take this class (classes) they are MANDATORY. I have seen the holocaust films, I have read the diary of anne frank. We HAVE TO - all students who do not drop out of high school learn about the atrocities of the holocaust in their history classes. These U.S. students see these awful films. I am quite aware of the millions of books and articles written about the holocaust and I am certainly aware of the movies, as well. I will never buy a book, nor read one, or see a movie about this beaten to death subject. I have good reasons. VERY good reasons: The ugly fat walls zionist israel builds in the territories to isolate and break the will of the Palestinian people. The tight visor-like grip that zionist israel holds over the Palestinian economy. The miserable, rotten check point after check point that these people have to endure for all the days of their lives when they need to travel, implemented by zionist israel. Rachel Corrie, and the many heroic people like her for coming to the aid of the Palestinian people. She saw the truth and died knowing the truth. The tens of thousands Palestinian homes and people murdered by being crushed by israeli tanks. Palestinian children murdered for throwing rocks — OOH! Ouch, hey that really hurt! — And let me not forget the insane massacres of Shatilla and Sabra, these massacres were well thought out, and strategically planned. Now July 12, 2006. How long was this in the planning? Destroyed homes, businesses, children and families - all of this for a few soldiers. AND THERE IS SO MUCH MORE…so much more….HOW DARE YOU zionist israel. You have no right to speak of the holocaust from which you generate fantastic amounts of money from, but in fact you’ve learned NOTHING from its heartache and misery.
July 27th, 2006 at 6:51 pm
Well yeah, now that you think of it, there are loads of books on the holocaust. i just saw the diary of Anne Frank the other day in a bookstore. How did it all come to this? How did the world get this way? i am so sad and sorry for Lebanon and her people. i am so disgusted with the bullying brute force that Israel is condemning innocent Lebanon too. I am so sorry. I will pray everyday.
July 27th, 2006 at 6:55 pm
Dani Dani Dani & All those on this site who agree with YOU
Yes I cried when innocents were being bombed in Israel and I continue to cry over this mess. But you my dear are filled with so much hate and revenge and a sense of rightousness that all you can say is what about the israelies ……… No body is denying that the Israelies have suffered.
BUT THAT DOES NOT GIVE THEM THE RIGHT UNDER ANY PRETENCE TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE IN RETALIATION.
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET THAT INTO YOUR NARROW MINDED RIGHTOUS ZIONIST HEAD. GO ON CALL ME ANITSEMETIC
THERE IS BLOOD ON THE HANDS AND IN THE HEART OF ISRAEL and USA …..THEY ARE NOT CARRYING THIS CARNAGE OUT 4 SELF DEFENCE. THEIR AGENDA IS NOT TO LIVE IN PEACE BUT TO CONTROL THE REGION.
THEY ARE DOING TO THE MUSLIMS/ARABS WHAT HITLER DID TO THEM.
DENY DENY DENY ALL YOU WANT ……. BUT OPEN YOUR EYES AND EARS AND SEE THE BLOOD STAINS ON THEIR HANDS …….. I CAN ALMOST SMELL THE FLOWING BLOOD OF INNOCENTS FROM HERE.
THE LONGER YOU KEEP HARPING ON ABOUT ISRAELS RIGHT TO EXIST AS THE REASON FOR THIS CARNAGE THE SOONER THE BLOOD WILL START STAINING YOUR HANDS.
And for all of you others on here who are calling on GOD to destroy your enemy ……… be aware that GOD will not be listening. You too will be stained with the blood of those you call your enemy.
THE ONLY SOLUTION FOR PEACE IS PEACE AND NEGOTIATION.
DO NOT RUN WITH THE EVIL OF VENGENCE AND REVENGE ……… THAT IS NOT THE ANSWER
ALL WE ARE SAYING IS GIVE PEACE A CHANCE
July 27th, 2006 at 7:11 pm
In the year AD 551, the magnificent, wealthy city of Berytus; headquarters of the Romans’ East Mediterranean fleet, was struck by a massive earthquake. In its aftermath, the sea withdrew several miles and the survivors; ancestors of the present-day Lebanese, walked out on the sands to loot the long-sunken merchant ships revealed to them.
That was when a giant tsunami returned to swamp the city and kill them all. So savagely was the old Beirut damaged that the Emperor Justinian sent gold from Constantinople to every family left alive.
Some cities seem forever doomed. When the Crusaders arrived in Beirut on their way to Jerusalem in the 11th century, they slaughtered every man, woman and child in the city.
In World War I, Ottoman Beirut suffered a terrible famine; the Turkish army had commandeered all the grain and the Allied powers blockaded the coast.
How does this happen to Beirut? For 20 years, I’ve watched this place die and then rise from the grave and then die again, its apartment blocks pitted with so many bullets they look like Irish lace, its people massacring each other.
15 years of civil war that took 150,000 lives, and two Israeli invasions and years of Israeli bombardments that cost the lives of a further 20,000 people. People: Armless, legless, headless, knifed, bombed and splashed across the walls of houses.
Yet they are a fine, educated, moral people whose generosity amazes every foreigner, whose gentleness puts any Westerner to shame, and whose suffering we almost always ignore.
They look like us, the people of Beirut. They have light-coloured skin and speak beautiful English and French. They travel the world. Their women are gorgeous and their food exquisite.
But what are we saying of their fate today as the Israelis; in some of their cruellest attacks on this city and the surrounding countryside, tear them from their homes, bomb them on river bridges, cut them off from food and water and electricity?
We say that they started this latest war, and we compare their appalling casualties; more than 500 in all of Lebanon by last night, with Israel’s 34 dead, as if the figures are the same.
And then, most disgraceful of all, we leave the Lebanese to their fate like a diseased people and spend our time evacuating our precious foreigners while tut-tutting about Israel’s “disporportionate” response to the capture of its soldiers by Hezbollah.
I walked through the deserted centre of Beirut yesterday and it reminded me more than ever of a film lot, a place of dreams too beautiful to last, a phoenix from the ashes of civil war whose plumage was so brightly coloured that it blinded its own people. This part of the city; once a Dresden of ruins, was rebuilt by Rafiq Hariri, the prime minister who was murdered scarcely a mile away on February 14 last year.
The wreckage of that bomb last, an awful precursor to the present war in which his legacy is being vandalised by the Israelis, still stands beside the Mediterranean, waiting for the last UN investigator to look for clues to the assassination; an investogator who has long ago abandoned this besieged city for the safety of Cyprus.
At the empty Etoile restaurant; best snails and cappuccino in Beirut, where Hariri once dined with French President Jacques Chirac, I sat on the pavement and watched the parliamentary guard still patrolling the facade of the French-built emporium that houses what is left of Lebanon’s democracy. So many of these streets were built by Parisians under the French Mandate and they have been exquisitely restored, their mock-Arabian doorways bejewelled with marble Roman columns dug from the ancient Via Maxima a few metres away.
A lot of people said Hariri can’t rebuild Beirut. He DID.
Now it is being unbuilt. The Martyr Rafiq Hariri International Airport has been attacked three times by the Israelis, its shopping malls vibrating to the missiles that thunder into the runways and fuel depots. Hariri’s transnational highway viaduct has been broken by Israeli bombers. Most of his motorway bridges have been destroyed. The Roman-style lighthouse has been smashed by a missile from an Apache helicopter. Only this small jewel of a restaurant in the centre of Beirut has been spared. So far.
It is the slums of Haret Hreik and Ghobeiri and Shiyah that have been pounded to dust, sending a quarter of a million Shiite Muslims to schools and abandoned parks across the city. Here, indeed, was the headquarters of Hezbollah, another of those “centres of world terror” the West keeps discovering in Muslim lands.
Here lived Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, the Party of God’s leader, a ruthless, caustic, calculating man, and Sheikh Mohammed Fadlallah, among the wisest and most eloquent of clerics, and many of Hezbollah’s top military planners; including, no doubt, the men who planned over many months the capture of the two Israeli soldiers.
But did the tens of thousands of poor who live here deserve this act of mass punishment? For a country that boasts of its pinpoint accuracy; a doubtful notion in any case, but that’s not the issue, what does this act of destruction tell us about Israel? Or about ourselves?
I walk through Beirut. Over a wall there is purple bougainvillea, white jasmine and a swamp of gardenias. The Lebanese love flowers, and Beirut is draped in trees and bushes that smell like paradise.
As for the inhabitants of the southern slums of Haret Hreik, I found hundreds of them yesterday, sitting under trees and lying on the parched glass beside an ancient fountain donated to Beirut by the Ottoman Sultan Abdelhamid. How empires fall.
Far away, across the Mediterranean, two American helicopters from the USS Iwo Jima could be seen, heading through the mist and smike towards the US embassy bunker complex at Awkar to evacuate more citizens of the American Empire. There was not a word from that same empire to help the people lying in the park, to offer them food or medical aid.
And across them all has spread a dark grey smoke that works its way through the entire city, the fires of oil terminals and burning buildings turning into a cocktail of sulphurous air that moves below our doors and through our windows. I smell it when I wake in the morning. Half the people of Beirut are coughing in this filth, breathing their own destruction as they contemplate their dead.
The anger that any human soul should feel at such suffering and loss was expressed so well by Lebanon’s greatest poet, the mystic Khalil Gibran, when he wrote of the half-million Lebanese who died in 1916 famine, most of them residents of Beirut:
“My people died of hunger, and he who
Did not perish from starvation was
Butchered with the sword…
They perished from hunger in a land
Rich with milk and honey…
They died because the vipers and
Sons of vipers spat out poison into
The space where the Holy Cedars and
The roses and the jasmine breathe
Their fragrance.”
And the sword continues to cut its way through Beirut. When part of an aircraft; perhaps the wing-tip of an F-16 hit by a missile, although the Israelis deny this, came streaking out of the sky over the eastern suburbs, I raced to the scene to find a partly decapitated driver in his car and three Lebanese soldiers from the army’s logistics unit. These are the tough, brave non-combat soldiers of Kfar Chima, who have been mending power and water lines these past days to keep Beirut alive.
A few hours later the Israelis came back to this location, as the men of the logistics unit were going to bed, and they bombed the barracks and killed 10 soldiers.
And why? Be sure: the Israelis know what they are hitting. That’s why they killed nine soldiers near Tripoli when they bombed the military radio antennas. But a logistics unit? Men whose sole job was to mend electricity lines?
And then it dawns on me. Beirut is to die. It is to be starved of electricity now that the power station in Jiyeh is bleeding. No one is to be allowed to keep Beirut alive. So those poor men have to be liquidated.
Beirutis are tough people and are not easily moved. But at the end of last week, many of them were overcome by a photograph in their daily papers of a small girl, discarded like a broken flower in a field near the border village of Ter Harfa, her feet curled up, her hand resting on her torn blue pyjamas, her eyes; beneath long, soft hair, closed, turned away from the camera.
She had been another “terrorist” target of Israel and several people, myself among them, saw a frightening smilarity between this picture and the photograph of a Polish girl lying dead in a field beside her weeping sister in 1939.
I go home and flick through my files, old pictures of the Israeli invasion of 1982. There are more photographs of dead children, of broken bridges. “Israelis threaten to storm Beirut”, “Israelis retaliate”, “Lebanon at war”, Beirut under seige”, “Massacre at Sabra and Chatila”.
Yes, how easily we forget these earlier slaughters. Up to 1700 Palestinians were butchered at Sabra and Shatila by Israel’s Christian militia allies in September 1982 while Israeli troops; as they later testified to Israel’s own commission of inquiry, watched the killings. I was there. I stopped counting the corpses when I reached 100. Many of the women had been raped before being knifed or shot.
Yet when I was fleeing the bombing of Ghobeiri last week, I swept right past the entrance of the camp, the very spot where I saw the first murdered Palestinians. And we did not think of them. We did not remember them. They were dead in Beirut and we were trying to stay alive in Beirut, as I have been trying to stay alive here for 30 years.
Fairuz, the living legend of Lebanese song, was to have performed at this year’s Baalbeck Festival, cancelled now like all the country’s festivals. One of her most popular songs is dedicated to her native city:
“Peace to Beirut with all my heart
And kisses to the sea and clouds,
To the rock of a city that looks like an old sailor’s face.
From the soul of her people she makes wine,
From their sweat, she makes bread and jasmine.
So how did it come to taste of smoke and fire?”
Disgracefully, we evacuate our precious foreigners and just leave the Lebanese to their fate.
FYI: I’m not Lebanese, but I would love to be considered so at heart. I love and mourn Lebanon.
July 27th, 2006 at 7:35 pm
MY GOD ISRAEL, WHAT HAVE YOU BECOME?? HOW COULD YOU KILL ALL THESE FINE INNOCENT PEOPLE AND THERE FAMILIES?? HOW CAN YOU DESTROY SUCH A BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY?? HOW CAN YOU HATE SO EASILY? I AM ASHAMED THAT BILLIONS OF TAX DOLLARS FROM AMERICA GO TO YOUR AID. WHAT AID?? YOU’RE DOING FINE. LEBANON NEEDS THE AID. LEBANON NEEDS HELP AND BADLY. WHAT, ISRAEL, HAVE YOUR PEOPLE BECOME??
July 27th, 2006 at 8:14 pm
I do not remember who it was but someone said “Israel allows CNN and other media access to what israel is doing – Hezbollah doesn’t because they don’t want the world to see them firing rockets on a civilian population.” YOU – HAVE – GOT - THAT BACKWARDS !! Hah! Perhaps you should (whoever you are) go on the Letterman show. We all need a few good laughs!! And I’m sure you love the press for it is owned and run by Zionists. People, for your information it was israel that would not allow media or the UN or any other human relief group to go to the aid of the Town of Jenin in the West Bank. This was after Israel pounded the town of Jenin (this came in April 2002, when the world still had on its mind the tragedy of 9-11). Israel pounded, destroyed and murdered more people in another town – help me folks, I cannot remember its name. Yes! israel would not allow aid to come to these towns, especially Jenin. How come? What was the problem? Why all the secrecy? What, israel? Did you have to cover up your dirty filthy work so no one could see? Did you have to quickly bury the bodies so you didn’t look soooooo bad?
NOW, israel does not want any UN, NATO, or any other help or aid to go to Lebanon. Nor do they want the media in Lebanon in with them. WHY? Whatcha gonna do? Finish off s’more “terrorists” - you know, the ones who have no guns, the ones who have pacifiers in their mouths, the young ones, the old ones, - you know, the ones hiding and praying for their lives – no weapons, no guns? The israel military does not want the media to see them with their fantastic weaponry, guns, and machines, root out all these people from their homes and God only knows what else! Hmmm israel military? WHY DONCHA BRING THE MEDIA ALONG WITH YOU??? What is it that you don’t want the world to see….?
July 27th, 2006 at 8:43 pm
Israel WILL WIN! Just as it has ALWAYS won before. The IDF is an undefeated force, and has defeated MUCH worse than Hezbollah (just look at the 1973 Yom Kippur war, which Israel won.) You Arab hypocrits commit terrorist atrocities, than act as if you are the victim, when all Israel is doing is in the name of self-defense.
Now, it is true that Israel us overreacting. But they have a reason; there’s a crazy group of well-armed madmen that are trying to kill innocents which Israel MUST STOP! Go ahead and rant about how you Arab dogs are the victims… you’ll just kill yourselves over worshipping the same God by different ways.
July 27th, 2006 at 8:48 pm
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING ISRAEL AND AMERICA DIG THEIR GRAVES ……….. SO THAT THEY CAN ROT WITH THE CORPES OF THOSE THAT HAVE MURDERED. THEY WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO RID THE TRACES OF BLOOD FROM THEIR SOULS (Oh wait a minute …… they dont have SOULS)
They may not allow CNN and other Media in but the stories and more importantly the pictures are still getting out
I do not wish death to any Israeli and American or any human being whatever religion (which in fact is the EVIL that controls the puppets of this world) and wherever they come from. I only pray for PEACE.
But Israel and America are the ones now seeking death.
Look at the pictures above and keep saying to yourself that ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
July 27th, 2006 at 8:50 pm
Oh, and while I’m at it: God hates the muslims.
(Slaps own face)
Sorry!!!! I just had to say it! Forgive me!! If there is a God, he loves all on Earth and doesn’t wish to see a single person hurt or killed!!
July 27th, 2006 at 8:52 pm
Many thanks for your direct comment, & please continue to show your true colors.
There’s nothing more eye-opening than hate and racism mixed with ignorance.
How many words is a picture worth?
—-
A.D.
StopDestroyingLebanon.com
July 27th, 2006 at 9:47 pm
ooooooh! We have among us a cunning, brilliant mind! So… God hates Muslims, huh? REALLY? How do you know? Did you….have a conversation with him? Did he whisper in your little zionist demon ears? Well well well, my amusing little zionist piglet…what other “voices” have been talking to you? Tell me, my little zionist piglet…do you always slap yourself in the face like that? Tell me (whispering now)…did God tell you to slap yourself in the face….?
July 27th, 2006 at 10:55 pm
When Israel was weak, the Arab countries attacked us in 1973 and STILL LOST. (G-D is in who´s side? the man-bombs? i dont think so… no virgins for them) Now that Israel is strong, they can attack anyone that gives space to Terrorists!!!!
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July 28th, 2006 at 12:41 am
THIS IS NOTHING BUT THE OUT COME OF USA’S “DEMOCRACY”;
In Exchange of Democracy what the palestinian and as well as the lebanese got?, nothing but ‘WAR’, and another funny thing we can see is that on one side israel is bombarding civilians and at the same time USA (israel”s illegal father) announced that it will give some billions of dollars : ,,,,,,,,,,?, instead of stoping israel from killing innocent people……..!, ,, and the owner of global democracy (usa) provocing middle east arab countries to ensure democracy in them ?
i am asking the arabs to overcome the dirty american middlemanship,
July 28th, 2006 at 1:35 am
One has only to look at the Red Cross Ambulance above to see how much of a regretable accident that was on the partof the Israelies.
Wow if that was an accident and such a perfect hit …… How come they cant TARGET Hizballah as accurately as that …….. Man talk about a dirty war raged by THE REAL TERRORIST of the Middle East.
ANd what of the United Nations Headquarters that has been in the same spot for over 20years. The whole region knew it was there …… the Israelies knew it was there. The poor UN officials made 10 phone calls to call off the Israeli bombardment that is putting their lives in danger ……. The Israelies acknoledged that it was occupied ……… and then accidently sent a direct hit into it …….. But OOOOOOOPSY DAISY …… It was an accident TRUELY TRUELY it was.
The Jews tell lies often enough and that even they start to believe them.
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
July 28th, 2006 at 1:47 am
I am from India. Once an ardent admirer of Israiel. Now out of my admiration. Israiel have forgot the TEN COMMANDMNETS of the Lord.
If Israiel have done the will of God the entire senario of the world would be entirely different today. The nation gave birth to The Messaiah , Distroys the world by its own hand today. May Israiel Open its Eyes even now ! ! ! We in India Pray for LEBANON and its dear CItizens. May God help You and Keep you.
Morris
July 28th, 2006 at 2:09 am
To Ricardo and Spirit of 9/11
OPEN YOUR EYES and EARS and then go try to wash the BLOOD of the innocents from your hands ….Thats if it will ever come off.
Your support of Israel is creating your blindness to the Humanitarian disaster Israel is bringing to the Middle East.
Let us not forget the innocent of Gaza and the West Bank who have had to deal with the TERRORIST nation on a daily basis.
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
July 28th, 2006 at 2:28 am
I told myself I would not write any more words here (…even though I did not get a calculation to my simple question posted July 26th 1 18 am from any proud righteous Israeli supporters…) because I saw honest truthful people were unfairly getting dragged into replying to those who try to justify the destruction of Lebanon. I am sorry that those who suffer the most have to suffer again by such ignorance. Even noticed mails directly from Lebanon on this site. I am so sorry that in your suffering and your frustration and anger you have to be so blindly disrespected. I am not one to use the net for sending comments but I can sympathize with the people of Lebanon and of coarse Palestine. You have more class than the rich war mongering media manipulating self righteous Israeli society and the government of United States of Israel, oh sorry , I mean United States. But I would also like to give my respect to those Israelis who are brave enough to speak out and admit they are not proud of how a great majority of their people treat others in the middle east who are not jewish. I also respect those americans and canadians who see past the smoke screens. If there is any hope for peace accountibility must be addresed by Israelis control and destruction of the Palestinian society and others in the region. But that is like asking the United States to apologise for using agent orange in Vietnam ect. There is so much unaccountability, just like now, it is clear that Lebanon has been destroyed once again, unjustly and unfairly… I am sorry that you can see the signs of time and attitudes already twisting who are to be the main victims….Israel once again. I pray that one day those with money and power will help the less fortunate, not so greatly contribute to keeping them so desperate and suffering and despaired.
July 28th, 2006 at 3:18 am
ACCIDENTS ACCIDENTS ACCIDENTS…THATS THEIR EXCUSE FOR EVERYTHING AND EVERY LOST SOUL…WHEN WILL THIS SELF PROCLAIMED CIVILISED COUNTRY WAKE UP AND STOP HAVING ACCIDENTS??? plz some one explain to me that all the occurring MASSACRES are accidents,,tell me the bombed vehicles full of childrens bodies hanging out are accidents..and of course the UN bombing is once again opps an accident..the list goes on and on…………………….the israelis have a right to live and denfend themselves???, but little children not even old enough to speak have no rights??no right to at least live??when was israel,and the US declared to be GOD on earth,that they choose who stays and who goes? PEACE MAKERS ??? OR PIECE MAKERS of children and innocents?? IF israel has a right to exsist (which i’m highly doubting) it should exsist as FAR FAR FAR away as possible from the middle east..and humans for that matter..cause with every passing day they prove to the world what inhuman monstrous creatures they really are..they truly are a disgarce to human kind…
July 28th, 2006 at 3:33 am
GERMAN TROOPS TO ISRAEL ! ! ! its bout time….
Hezbollah = home defence
July 28th, 2006 at 3:57 am
To Lebanese Reporter
Consider yourslef a fully fledged Lebanese.
Thank you so much for your words and support.
We Lebanese will always adopt those that are good to us.
Not to mention anyone else that needs help and shelter ……. Our doors and hearts are always open to those that respect us as Human Beings and feel our anguish and despair at the terroe that is being put upon us by the EVIL ONES who seek to destroy us.
We will survive, and we will prosper once again. After we bury our dead and wipe the blood from streets.
THANK YOU
Allah urrdah ellaik
July 28th, 2006 at 4:26 am
Ludwig - you had your chance and stuffed up, now be fair and and go to the end of the queue and give others a chance to try and suffer the consequences of failure.
July 28th, 2006 at 5:12 am
MAY ALLAH GIVE US STRENGTH, PATIENCE AND FORGIVE US.
ALLAH IS THE FINAL DECIDER OF YOUR DOING’S ISRAEL.
MAY ALLAH FORGIVE YOU AS WELL.
July 28th, 2006 at 5:16 am
MAY ALLAH GIVE US STRENGTH, PATIENCE AND FORGIVE US.
OH GOD PLEASE HELP US, WE ARE WEAK AND HELPLESS, WE ONLY RELY ON U, YOU HAVE GIVEN US THIS LIFE, EVERYTHING BETWEEN THE EARTHS AND HEAVENS BELONGS TO YOU, PLEASE STRENTHEN US TO GO THROUGH THIS DIFFICUILT TIME AND INCREASE OUR IMAAN IN YOU.
AMEEEEN.
July 28th, 2006 at 6:40 am
Dani -
“Oh, and Andrew I am not anti Arab as you put it but I guess I will never convince you of that. Why am I here on a Pro Lebanon board? In democracy all sides have the right to present their side of an argument. and I don’t recall seeing a sign anywhere saying that only certain comments will be accepted on this board. If I am doing something wrong, I am sure the moderator of this board would have contacted me or “pulled” what I have written.”
If you don’t want to be viewed as a zionist, or anti-arab than don’t talk about israeli fundamentals in such a way. just like if you didn’t want to be viewed as racist to a black person you wouldn’t call them by the “n” word.
And when i said “what are you doing on a pro-lebanese board” i meant…do you just go looking to stir up problems? Because I’m pretty sure everyone here has seen CNN and its slanted view…
As a really smart friend told me last night:
“as soon as all the leaders of these terrorist groups are dead… there will be someone else who lost their mother, father, brother, sister, lover, friend to take their place with all the anger that burns in their heart for those who killed them.”
so if you want to stop terrorism than stop murder. if you want to stop terrorism, give back to the people what you have taken.
July 28th, 2006 at 7:38 am
Speaking as a Canadian distant from this conflict, I have no right to make any comments. All I know is that eight of my countrymen have been killed by Israeli strikes.
As a wise man once said “An eye for an eye until the whole world is blind.”
Hezbollah and Israel, smarten up.
July 28th, 2006 at 8:04 am
Andrew - not quite sure what you are trying to say. Are you saying a person can not be a Zionist and at the same time be a friend of an Arab? Are you saying that if a person is a Zionist then by definition they are anti-muslim?
From Wikipedia:
“Zionism is a political movement and ideology that supports a homeland for the Jewish people in the Land of Israel, where the Jewish nation originated over 3,200 years ago and where Jewish kingdoms and self-governing states existed up to the 2nd century. While Zionism is based in part upon religious tradition linking the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, the modern movement was originally secular, beginning largely as a response to rampant antisemitism in Europe and in many parts of the Muslim world during the 19th Century. After a number of advances and setbacks, and after the Holocaust had destroyed much of the existing Jewish society in Europe, the Zionist movement culminated in the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948.
Since the founding of the State of Israel, the term Zionism is generally considered to mean support for Israel. However, a variety of different, and sometimes competing, ideologies that support Israel fit under the general category of Zionism, such as Religious Zionism, Revisionist Zionism, and Labor Zionism. Thus, the term is also sometimes used to refer specifically to the programs of these ideologies, such as efforts to encourage Jewish emigration to Israel. The term Zionism is also sometimes used retroactively to describe the millennia-old Biblical connection between the Jewish people and the Land of Israel, which existed long before the birth of the modern Zionist movement.
Certain individuals and groups have seized on the term Zionism and misuse it to justify attacks on Israel. In some cases, the label “Zionist” is also used improperly as a euphemism for Jews in general by those wishing to whitewash anti-Semitism (as in the Polish anti-Zionist campaign)….”
“…The aims of Zionism are as follows: The unity of the Jewish people and the centrality of their ancestral and Biblical homeland in Israel. The ingathering of the Jewish people in its historic homeland, the Land of Israel. The strengthening of the re-born Jewish state based upon the prophetic vision of justice and peace. The preservation of the identity of the Jewish people through the fostering of Jewish and Hebrew studies and of Jewish spiritual and cultural values. The protection of Jewish rights everywhere…”
Whilst being spread around the world throughout the ages, Jews have always prayed for a return to Zion, which euphamistically referred to Jerusalem and a return to the “Promised Land”.
Zionism as a movment and ideology did not take on a formal or organised state until the 1800’s in response to rising Jewish persecution, anti-semitism and anti-Jewish pogroms in Eastern Europe where most Jews lived, in Western Europe as well as in muslim countries where Jews lived.
Zionism sought only one thing - a return to the Jewish Homeland where Jews could live together in peace and be free from persecution.
In 1948, Jews throughout the world accepted without any reservation whatsoever and with gratitude the UN decision to allocate a small sliver of land that we know today as Israel. Jews were more than happy to accept what was given and were happy to share Jerusalem with their Arab neighbours. Jews were happy to be able to return to their homeland after more than 3000 years of forced exile.
History shows what the Arab response to this was and history also shows that despite wars, that with a bit of good will and compromise, Israel can live in peace with her Arab neighbours if given the chance - are not relations between Israel and Egypt but a prime example? Even the border with Jordan and Syria are relatively quiet and peaceful so it can be done.
Israel would like nothing more than to have similar relations with Lebanon but as long as Lebanon is going allow itself to be used as a staging ground for minority, extremist groups who openly and publicly declare they want to destroy Israel and use Lebanon as a launching ground for attacks against Israel, such peace will not happen.
On the other hand, if these extremist groups can be removed from Southern Lebanon or at least their energies channeled into helping their people instead of preaching war against Israel, and if this area can be patrolled either by the Lebanese army or an internatinal force that would enforce a demilitarized zone in the area, then peace is achievable. Its worked with Egypt and a buffer zone with Syria seems to ensure peace in that region so why not with Lebanon???
July 28th, 2006 at 8:20 am
Oh, I’m not a racist, I’m just angry that some religious fanatics want to wipe out a democracy and replace it with a state that is built on lies, treats women like slaves, suppresses any trace of free speech or truth, has an evil standard of “justice” (like blowing up civilians on a bus or flying airplanes into office buildings), and wants to kill the Jews in a genocide so great it will make the Holocaust look like a picnic. i Think i’m justified in saying that the only blind people around here are those who hate democracies and support evil, totalitarian, bloodthirsty terrorists who wish to drive the whole world down into an abyss of violence and iniquity. There’s a word for a group of people who rule by fear: fascists; and that’s exactly what the terrorists are.
I apologize for my previous god-hates-the-muslims comment. It was on a stupid dare.
P.S. I’m not a WASP; i’m a New Yorker with an Italian descended father from Argentina, and a Jewish mother whose family hailes from Poland.
P.S.S. If you can justify what the terrorists did on 9/11, then what Israel is doing to Lebanon is justified too (at least, according to you.)
July 28th, 2006 at 8:33 am
Hafeez mohammad has the right idea! I am a platonist myself, and since socrates was Plato’s teacher, he can be said to have socratic influence. It’s so unfair that the Palestinians can simply claim that Mohammed came to a certain land, and then say that just because one man did something, that a whole people have the right to the Jews’ lands. There’s a word for someone who takes something away from someone else to which the taker isn’t legally entitiled to: thief. That what the Palestinians are: land-theives who try to justify their iniquity. And when anyone tries to question them, they scream and cry and try to shoot you, or else blow themselves up like cowardly babies, thinking that they can go to the Islamic heaven where they can indulge in all of their rivers of wine and virgins of sin (the Christian and Jewish versions of heaven describe a place that is free from sin and material pleasure, same thing with Bhuddist nirvana and Platonic form of the good.)
And if you think that my comments are racsist, keep in mind that they are TRUE, no matter how much you don’t want to hear them. If it hurts, it hurts because it’s TRUE. And while there is such a thing a individual good Palestinians (and good, honest families, some of whom have Israeli friends), it is true that as a whole, the Palestinians hate Jews and are violent, just like the Nazis. If you think that my chracterization of the Palestinians is unfair, then any characterization of the Nazis as evil must be unfair as well. This doesn’t mean that the Palestinians are INHERENTLY evil, by no means! It means that the Palestinians who first stole Israeli land were greedy (and maybe poor, but that’s no excuse) people who took away from the Jews what they, as a people, owned.
July 28th, 2006 at 8:45 am
Brenda Sullivan also has the right ideas! Israel is also being hit! Don’t forget that!! How is it possible to say that Israel is evil when it attacks Lebanon, but that when the Muslims (Hezbollah, Hamas, and their allies and supporters) attack Israel, they are magically justified? How? By the power of Moohamed? Please explain to me how this is possible. And don’t call me a rascist again; some of my best friends have been African-American, Islamic, Jewish, Chinese-American, Korean-American, WASP, and Hispanic. I have no ill feelings towards any one of any race. The only people I have problems with are criminals, dictators, and terrorists. Just because the terrorists happen to be Muslim doesn’t mean that all Muslims are terrorists, or that all terrorists are Muslims (the Tamil Tigers, the IRA, and the Basque ETA are all non-Islamic terrorists.)
Also, I don’t like the double standards that I see here on this website. When someone says that god hates Israel, they are ok, but when someone says (even jokingly as a way to balance the scales, and on a dare) god hates the Muslims, its a rascist comment (technically its a theological one, I never said that Muslims were some sort of “inferior race”, which there IS NO SUCH THING.)
Let’s try to be equitable here, people. I felt that by writing my little comment, I was balancing out all of the “God-please-kill-the-Israelis” comments.
July 28th, 2006 at 8:58 am
To Dani
I just want you to know that if many people are using the term Zionist incorrectly. Why is it that when the use of the word terrorist is used incorrectly (eg Any body who is against Israeli & American policy). They are denied the right to deny it.
The people who went out to protest the invasion of Iraqu by the Americans and their allies were considered Terrorist supporters. WHen people went out to protest Israels invasion of Lebanon they were labled Terroist supporters.
As for the jews been given a ’sliver’ of land as you call it (I dare say almost 60% of the Palestinian people were displaced from their homeland ….. that they had lived on for centuries, could hardly be called a sliver). Why is it the Palestinians werent allowed to fight to keep the land that was stolen from them by the UN for the settlement of displaced jews. And why is it that Israel is still advertising for Jews from around the world to come settle in Israel. THey have not only swallowed up was given to them, but they also wanted the rest of land the Paletinians owned (because apparently the UN stuffed up and didnt give them the land that was most holy to them).
The past is the PAST. WHat is happening now is a whole new story. Hezballah is only a terrorist organisation ….. because Israel and its Allies named them so. Hamas won a democratic vote in Palestine and they are labled Terrorists.
Can you explain to me the difference between what these Parties have done and what Israel, backed by Big Brother the US is doing to Lebanon now.
Cut the crap of your History lesson will ya. Israel is acting in a manner to so entrenched in Terrorism that it defies all logic.
And if you say …… well they did it first yada yada yada.
Did you see the red cross ambulance and the “MISGUIDED” missile that hit it (BULLSEYE). Have you seen the destruction of the UN outpost. You can justify those as mistakes …… but yet not any of the other civillians and infrastructure your homeland has bombed seem to matter ……. because all those babies were terrorist ……. Well all I can say is Israel is the main contributor to any Terrorist that come out of that region. And yet Israel remains civillised …………….. I DONT THINK SO.
Why dont you just call a spade a spade and admit that Israel and the US got it wrong AGAIN.
PEACE LOVE AND MUNGBEANS BABY
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
July 28th, 2006 at 9:02 am
Israel was provoked into this war. But what is provocation? It is defined as:
In criminal law, provocation is a possible defense by excuse or exculpation alleging a sudden or temporary loss of control as a response to another’s provocative conduct sufficient to justify an acquittal, a mitigated sentence or a conviction for a lesser charge.
Since Hezbollah provoked Israel first by attacking and capturing two soldiers, Israel’s actions are legally more justified (or less unjustified.)
Both Socrates and Christ said to never harm anyone even when harmed first, and to turn the other cheek. But the Jews follow neither Socrates nor Christ, so you can see why they would be doing this. Its because they’re frustrated. They’re frustrated with the fact that they’ve been at war almost continously for the past 50 or so years, with the fact that there are large states next to them which threaten to “drive them into the sea” and to kill every last one of them. They’re frustrated with the fact that the Palestinians and Lebanese cheer and support the terrorists (in a way, the civilian populations of Lebanon and the Palestinian territories are accessories to the crime of terrorism, as they willingly support and praise it), and they’re frustrated with the biased pro-arab world reaction.
While this frustration by itself dosen’t justify such action (indiscriminate bombing and shelling) against civilians (that said, Hezbollah hides among civilians, so the only way to get to them is to kill civilians as well), it does mitigate the circumstances. Imagine this: If someone threatens you and your family with death by shooting, and you have a gun, and you shoot at your assialant and an unarmed civilian who is praising your assailant is shot when the assaiant uses him as a human shield, who is MORALLY responsible?
The assailant.
July 28th, 2006 at 9:27 am
ANGRY at th LIES - Okay baby. Let’s agree to disagree on our interpretations of history and apportioning of labels. Let’s get above this and try and solve a problem, or at least find an end to the endless deaths on both sides.
Hypothetically speaking, what would Hezbollah have to lose if in an attempt to stop the fighting they unilaterally stopped firing rockets and gave back the two kidnapped soldiers and declared a cessation in hostilities - all forms of hostility that is - for let’s say a six month period during which time an interim force could be put in place in a sort of buffer zone - such buffer zone would protect southern Lebanon from Israel and vice versa.
I am sure that Israel in return would immediately stop their attacks.
As I said, what would Hezbollah have to lose? In the eyes of the Lebanese people and much of the muslim world they are already heroes and this gesture surely would only enhance their position and they could easily argue that they are doing this in the best interests of Lebanon and the people of Lebanon.
Doing this would allow for all the necessary aid to get into Lebanon and reach those that are desperate and in need of help and the issues of who is responsible could be left to others to sort out.
Wouldn’t this be better than the continuation of tit for tat attacks which are affecting innocents on both sides.
Surely the population of Lebanon would want this so wouldn’t it be good if Hezbollah took the initiative before more lives are lost as I am afraid that if Hezbollah fires more rockets, especially longer range rockets into Israel, the fighting will not only get worse but result in a lot more deaths on both sides, but more so in and around the areas where these rockets are coming from.
July 28th, 2006 at 9:34 am
There really is no justification for the murder of all those Lebanese civilians. There is no justifcation of the genocide of a great nation and great people. The Lebanese Muslims and Christians deserve to have a peaceful life. They deserve their living, their rights, their homes, their livelihood, their peace. In no way should they pay for these small crimes that could have been solved with soldier swapping. And I do mean small crimes…for what does it mean that a few soldiers detained equals all that bloodshed and destruction of over 500 people and their homes, cities, and towns. I will never forget. Never. I am so sorry for Lebanon. They are paying such a huge price from a domineering, very brutal government of Israel. How is that democracy? How can you call yourselves peace-loving? How can you say that what you are doing is right in the name of youir people and this so called Zionism or whatever it is? How can you Lie Spiirit of 9 11 and say you are not a racist. That was some fine dare. Really cute. Now i cannot imagine you being anything BUT A RACIST. It is your kind of thinking that causes hatred. I do watch Cnn. I see so much damage to Lebanon it makes me just SICK. The other day, while i was driving home, i saw a woman drive by in her car - she had children in the back - and her car had attached to it a flag of Lebanon. I honked and gave her a thumbs up. But I saw the awful sadness in her eyes. And my heart is telling me that these people who are suffering are in NO WAY terrorist. Shame on you Spirit. You shouldn’t even be calling yourself such a name. Jackass would be atleast much more appropriate.
July 28th, 2006 at 9:35 am
every time i look at the pictures i wonder how much hatred the israelis have got in their hearts. Man, those people have been going over and over on the subject of jewish genocide. what they are doing to lebanon and lebanese now is the biggest genocide the world has ever known. people are being bombed in red cross cars while leaders of the free world can not do nothing about it. i mean yo jews, you have done a great job working for over 100 year on brain washing the big powers in the world. u managed to control the media so good that you can manipulate any incident so it makes you look like victims, the ones who suffer and needs help against the Terrorists, us , we are the terrorists in the Red Cross Cars, isn’t it?
July 28th, 2006 at 9:51 am
Lord Have mercy… Let’s have mercy!
July 28th, 2006 at 10:31 am
IF IRAN ABDUCTED A U.S. SOLDIER, THERE WOULD BE HELL TO PAY, WOULDN’T THERE?
IF A COUNTRY MESSES WITH US, WE WILL MAKE THEM PAY 100 TIMES WORSE.
THE LEBONESE GOVERMENT WAS EITHER TOO WEAK, TOO STUPID, OR NOT CONCERNED ENOUGH TO RESTRAIN THE TERRORISTS IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. IF YOU CAN’T GOVERN YOUR OWN COUNTRY, SOMEONE WILL DO IT FOR YOU.
HAVE A NICE DAY
(Edited by webmaster)
July 28th, 2006 at 10:31 am
There are people in the U.S. and Canada that do not dare talk about the jewish people and zionism - they just don’t dare. They would lose their jobs and businesses. It’s okay to talk about Mexicans, Blacks, Polish, Arab, Italian, Iraqi, etc, etc. But don’t you dare say anything of the policies of the zionist movement and the governments that support it. I am aware that not all Jewish people are zionists. I know that these decent people hate what zionism stands for and what it is doing to other people. Let me quote what a Rabbi once said to his congregation - “1000 arab people are not worth a jew’s fingernail.” I am not making this up. This was quoted in 1994. IF ANYONE REALLY WANTS TO LEARN ABOUT THE TRUTH OF zionism go to WWW.RENSE.COM. There is also a fabulous book written by Michael Piper called “The New Jerusalem” It will be very hard to find though. Guaranteed, no publishing house will publish it. Most popular publishing houses, magazines, newspapers, radio, television, the entertainment business are owned by zionists. If you don’t believe me, be assured you will find out if you do some investigating.
Saudi Arabia and Japan do a great business with USA - these countries don’t dare bite the hand that offers them great business. The USA is in debited to Saudi Arabia and Japan and these countries do not want to lose their accounts payable. Therefore they will not come to Lebanon’s defense. Egypt and Jordan are bought and paid for by the USA. The USA gives millions yearly to these countries to keep them quiet and on their side. Egypt and Jordan will also not come to Lebanon’s defense. zion israel does NOT WANT PEACE between any of the middle east countries, and zion israle definitely does not want peace with Lebanon - unless it is STRICTLY on their terms. What terms might those be? Perhaps the terms they have delegated to the Palestinian people for the past 6 or 7 decades? Lebanon does not want to live in the corrupt, so-called democracy that is zionism.
israel loves that these paid for countries are just that. They want the arab nations to hate each other. They want the middle east to never have peace. This makes it all to easy for israel. So now israel says “see what a bunch of animal terrorists they are? see how they don’t get along? give us lots of money and we’ll take care of them for you.”
You just love the separateness of the Arab nations, don’t you israel? It plays so easily into your strategies doesn’t?? You just love that Arab nations do not get along and make fools out of themselves because they have such lousy leaders - but you love that - because they make you look real good don’t they? So the North American people are swayed by you and they read your stuff and watch your shows. They believe you. They believe you.
But now here is Lebanon in such horrific carnage and catastrophic MISERY. This was to be their best tourist season yet! They were doing so well. So many different kinds of people coming from all over the world visiting Beautiful Lebanon and her Beautiful People. You were jealous weren’t you? Their economy was beginning to grow, they were rising from their previous ashes and you couldn’t stand it could you, zionist israel??
One day these people were LIVING, going about their day, working, playing with their children, tending their gardens, fixing their cars, going to shows, enjoying dinner, going shopping, they were LIVING! And in the name of some small organization called Hezbollah who wanted a trade of soldiers - YOU go and DESTROY their lives completely!! And you blame Hezbollah. You even got Canada believing you. SICK.
One - Day - zionist israel - the - world - will - not - believe - you.
July 28th, 2006 at 12:30 pm
Dear Lebanese Reporter,
I did read your essay and it was lovely. How wonderful to hear someone speaking from their heart. Of course there are many Pro Lebanon people speaking from their heart. I am so awfully sad about the horrid damnation that is pummeling a Great Beautiful Country that is Lebanon. To read insightful words from Lebanese Reporter lifts the sadness a little bit. Keep it up everyone who is Pro Lebanon Pro Life and all that is good in the world. We do not need to consider the cold calculating words of …what the heck was his name…oh well, you know, the one with the wikepedia brain. heartless dull words. cold. Insensitive. Mean-spirited. Like all the other rote that he writes.
July 28th, 2006 at 12:45 pm
Here are some other fine words from another Lebanese website. Just something very small but Beautiful, nonetheless. These words seem to be talking to Lebanon…or is it Lebanon talking to us?
Words of Wisdom…
I haven’t a clue as to how my story will end.
But that’s all right. When you set out on a journey and night covers the road,
you don’t conclude that the road has vanished…
And how else could we discover the stars?
July 28th, 2006 at 1:47 pm
One day a group of displaced individuals got together and made a plan. They said, let’s take back this land that we rejected in biblical times- we need it now. In the process, we will kick out all of the Arabs who have been living here. If they dare to stay, we will make their lives a living hell. When they fight back, we will brand them terrorists. And to the world, we will reinforce that they are, indeed, terrorists through the use of film and media. Thus, we can get away with anything.
July 28th, 2006 at 2:33 pm
This is true Agenda.
While the reputation of Arabs and Muslims has not been so good, especially thanks the the U.S. media, 9/11 truly did put a huge dagger into the heart of the reputation of all Muslims around the world, but most especially the Arabs, much to the glee of the zionist/jewish media and Christians and Muslims that must support them - or they will have no jobs. And the people who support this kind of media do get paid very well indeed. The more American people believe in this lie the more they are greatly rewarded.
Just very shortly after the 9/11 tragedy, every single news channel was playing a tape of Palestinian people dancing in their streets and celebrating. According to these very false reports they were supposedly celebrating the 9/11 tragedy.
Nothing could be more false. The ADC and other Arab organizations investigated this coverage of these Palestinian people on this tape and it turned out to be a HUGE, very gross LIE indeed.
Instead, they found out that it was only Palestinian people celebrating a religious holiday. The ADC demanded this footage be taken off the networks, the truth be told, and an apology be made to Palestinians publicly.
The networks only did one thing: They took off the footage, but they never apologized and they didn’t make it right for the Palestinian people. Therefore much more damage was done to these people’s personal integrity.
The 9/11 tragedy is very badly being used as a vehicle to destroy more Arab civilians, damage their good name, and now the murder and rape of Lebanon can be so easily be excused. All in the name of the dead of 9/11.
The convenient misuse of this tragedy of 9/11 has signed so many death warrants for Arab people and people who look Arab. Arab nations and people have been paying for 9/11 for a long time now and are still paying.
AFGHANISTAN
IRAQ
and now LEBANON
The word terror and terrorism is only associated with Muslims. It has been said that not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslim. What great gravy for the media. Slap this hateful logo on your TV screens, commercials, products…
That’s right. Make the world hate and misunderstand Muslim people more. This should eventually put more chunks of money into the pockets of the creators of this hatred.
July 28th, 2006 at 3:00 pm
Check out this video on the 9/11 conspiracy and get a different point of view on how things work in this world. Then you be the judge has to who is behind 9/11 and all the other wars in this world.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1519312457137943386
July 28th, 2006 at 4:08 pm
Words cannot express one’s feelings after viewing such images. What can one say more than Israel defines terror. May God bless the Lebanese and give strength to the resistance in the face of such devils.
July 28th, 2006 at 5:38 pm
And if the terrorists don’t stop, the killing won’t stop at Lebanon. Mark my words, if this insane jihad continues, other countries will be next. It’s only a matter of time…
July 28th, 2006 at 5:50 pm
Of course other countries will be next. Isn’t that what you have wanted all along? Isn’t this what the weapons of mass destruction on LEBANON IS ALL ABOUT???? I mean really, isn’t this WHAT THE PLAN WAS FROM THE BEGINNING? Go on say it, I will agree with you 100%.
July 28th, 2006 at 7:08 pm
IS NOT WHAT THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION ON LEBANON IS ALL ABOUT? An excuse to murder more Arab Christian and Muslim people. To get them out of the way? TO OCCUPY MORE OF THEIR LAND. Who needs them anyway…what are these people’s lives to US? This was planned a long time ago…Hezbollah or no Hezbollah. Another excuse, another reason would have been conjured up. More excuses and more reasons to murder all those people who didn’t have guns, ammunition, or weaponry of any kind in their homes, backyards, cupboards, bathtubs, closets, the laundry room. A FINE EXCUSE TO KILL ANY INNOCENT HUMAN BEING for whatever purpose that suits the goals of olmert, bush, blair, harper, perez, gillerman, cheney, wolfowitz, rice.
July 28th, 2006 at 7:36 pm
I am an American who chose to educate myself through reading books, articles and writtings from the people of the middle east rather the listen to the American war machine or American news that is totally one sided. If you listen they have already turned Hezbollah into a terrorist group like Al Qaida. They are nothing like Al Qaida and have turned down any help from Al Qaida. They have simply fought for the rights of muslims and yes they have committed acts of terrorism but look what they are facing. Other nations with tons of money, powerful militaries and propaganda machines. I’m tired of hearing about the poor Israeli people.
Fact one: Israel cannot site U.N. resolutions when there are at least a dozen U.N. resolutions citing it’s illegal occupation of the Palestinian territories and its well documented abuse of human rights standards dictated by international and U.S. laws.
Fact two: High unemployment and poverty, dehumanization and indignity are the known causes of terrorism. Despite this Israel continues to subject the Palestinian and Lebanese people to large scale military aggression that is annihilating the modest infrastructure they’ve managed to rebuild after decades of conflict.
Fact three; The guarantee of human rights for the muslim and Arab people is not absolute as it is with the Israeli’s.
I must say that I am a proud American but that I am ashamed that my government supports the REAL terrorist nation of Israel. Ashamed our news media is so quick to find and judge the so called bad guy. Israel has a long history of brutal terrorism including midnight raids to find and kill members of the Palestinian government. Yes, that’s assasination and it is condemned by every nation world wide. Israel is doing nothing to Hezbollah. They are systematiclly destroying Lebanon, it’s people, the infrastructure and every thing that country has done right that last few years.
America and Israel’s leaders need to understand that the war machine does not stop terrorism….it breeds it. Don’t believe me, look at Iraq. 100 civilians die every single day. Ask any Palestinian if there will ever be peace in Israel
Finally, to all of you in the Arab world and Europe. Please don’t believe that all Americans support the actions of our Government or believe our own media. There are a lot of American people who feel for the Lebonese people and know for a fact what Israel is doing is simply genocide. God Bless all of you who now must suffer and know that there are people praying for you.
July 28th, 2006 at 8:45 pm
Shawn, how can you say that Hezbollah is not a terrorist group? Are you living in an elternate reality? Maybe you and “angry at the lies” are living in the world of your desires; you don’t want to see that Hezbollah is really the guilty one, and that Israel is acting in self-defense.
“Angry at the lies” should call himself “Angry at the truth.” Also, Israel is NOT trying to wipe out the Lebanese people. If it were, there would be TENS OF THOUSANDS of dead Lebanese by now , not hundreds.
July 28th, 2006 at 9:16 pm
No Karen it is not.
Actually, the TRUTH is much, much worse.
Those forces (and the persons that represent them) that actually control most of our world could not be more pleased than for you and so many others to believe these idiotic conspiracy theories and for you to blame that old reliable scapegoat, the jews.
And the profits they make on war-mongering and arms trades is just a sideline, icing on the cake, an extra added bonus, as it were.
Meanwhile, while we (the people) are caught up in the petty spats derived from the fairy tales of race and religion, of nationality and class, while we are thus so distracted from anything approaching reality, they continue to try to slake their unquenchable thirst for power and wealth, in the process perpetuating a wholly unnecessary endemic poverty, a precipitious degradation of our environment, a tragic perversion of our human consciousness and spirit.
A few other comments:
1.We should all realize that the use of photographs is a common tool of propagandists to inflame our emotions.
How about showing the autopsy pictures of the 8 months pregnant Israeli woman who was shot through her womb (killing both her and her unborn child) by a Palestinian gunman.
And then how about juxtaposing these with the celebrations that occurred shortly afterward in Gaza City, with people dancing in the streets and sharing sweets.
This is no joke, it actually happened about 2 years ago.
What the pictures show, of course, is that violence is ugly and tragic.
If this would make people want to denounce all violence, then this would be great.
Unfortunately, most often it is only used as justification for the perpetuation of similar (or worse) violence in return.
2. The word terrorism is being misused by those who wish to justify its use.
Simply, terrorism is the deliberate targeting of innocents and non-combatants.
Often this is associated with methods that maximize the destruction and suffering of those affected.
If Israel were truly the “terrorist” that so many of you claim, then they would bomb schools and hospitals, they would kill thousands or hundreds of thousands; they are certainly capable of doing so. And they would not hesitate to claim credit. That would be the intention of a “terrorist”.
Likewise, when hezbollah (or hamas) kidnaps or kills soldiers, this is not terrorism. But when they bombard intentionally non-military objectives, when their missiles are filled with material designed to inflict the most suffering and injury, then this is, undeniably, terrorism.
The same goes for the palestinians (or others) who blow themselves up on buses filled with children, or in markets filled with the elderly.
You get the idea.
You may want to argue (maybe even with some justification) that what the U.S. does (or Israel) is “worse”, that it inflicts more (or disproportionate) harm or even causes more “terror” amongst the affected populaces.
But you cannot, rightly, call this “terrorism”.
You might as well call a hurricane, or an earthquake a “terrorist”.
And this is not to say that there is no such thing as “state” terrorism.
There most certainly is. Iran and Syria are guilty of this when they sponsor the “terrorist” actions of hezbollah and hamas, etc. Pakistan is guilty of this in regards their sponsorship of the kashmiri separitists (this doubly so, as they were first complicit in the ethnic cleansing (or rather religious) of this state.
And the U.S. has been guilty of this many, many times; in their sponsorship of Pinochet in Chile (thousands went “missing” or were “dissappeared), of the Contras in Nicaragua, of the death squads in El Salvador and in Panama.
And they were complicit in their support for many other “state” terrorists, such as the Shah in Iran and yes, Sadam Hussein in Iraq (when it suited their purposes).
(The old joke, of course, was that the U.S. was certain he had w.m.d.s because it was they who gave it to them (such as the chemical weapons used against the kurds)).
Even bin-laden, you should remember, became prominent when they teamed up against the old “evil empire” of the Soviet Union, creating not only the Taliban, but al qaida as well.
Ironically, amongst all the nations in the world, Israel is one of those that participate the least in this sort of behaviour.
You may think that what they do is harsh, is disproportionate, even “criminal; you may even think they have no right to exist, but you cannot rightly label what they do to be “terrorism”.
3. Someone mentioned above that the Jewish people really had no right to even a “sliver” of this land because the “past is the past”.
So, I repeat what I said before and ask when does “the past become the past”P.
The Palestinians who left or were forced from their land sixty years ago; is it “past” time for them? (actually, only a few survive; I don’t think the Israelis would put up too much of a fuss about them).
And what about their progeny (now numbering in the millions)? Do they still have a right to the land?
What if the Israelis hold out another sixty years, or a hundred? Is there any length of time that they can endure when finally the “deed” will be theirs?
When does the rights of the palestinians and their descendants expire?
Answer honestly.
Then apply the same reasoning to the Jewish people. It is undeniable that they once lived here. Even Islamic scripture accepts this.
So when did their rights (and those of their descendants) expire?.
If you claim justice, then you must apply it “blindly” and with dispassion.
And, also, what about the generations of Jewish people who were actually born here (who also number in the millions). Many, if not most of you, would wish them to “go back to where they came from”.
Where is that?
4. What can be done to relieve the situation? Like I said before, the simplest and quickest thing would be for hezbollah to return the two soldiers and to stop their bombardment of cities and towns in Israel. Israel has promised an immediate cessation if this occurs.
Perhaps you think this is a lie. Then why not call their bluff? What have you got to lose?
But I suspect many, if not most, of you do not want this. If this is a the case, then hezbollah does indeed speak and act for you, and you are thus responsible for these actions. In this case, Israel conducts a legitimate war (and of course you wish to defeat them) and their response is not disproportionate nor in any way criminal.
You cannot have it both ways. If Hezbollah is indeed your army, acting on your behalf, then they should act like one and come out in the open. Either that oryou accept their tactic of hiding themselves and their weapons caches amongst civilians, and thus accept the ensuing casualties.
Nasrallah himself has said recently, in this regard, that he will never accept any cease-fire that could be in any way construed as entailing any degree of “humiliation” (meaning the release of the two soldiers).
He thus plainly admits that his own pride, his own ego, is much more important that the suffering and death of so many innocent people.
Also, so many times the justification is made for the rocket attacks that they are a “deterrance” to the Israelis.
What? Did I miss something? Has it deterred them even one iota?
Yet they continue. More and more every day. I guess if something does not work, try it again, and again and again, try it a thousand times (actually, I think near two thousand, at last count). And if it still doesn’t work, try it yet again. Wow! Such brilliance! Such military genius!
Such dissembling, such an attitude, such behaviour, I do not understand how anyone can see as other than entirely loathsome, utterly despicable, the wretched rationalization of a craven coward.
Yet so many of you continue to worship him as some sort of “hero”.
How can this be anything but insanity?
5. The word genocide is also being constantly misused here. I suppose some think it clever to “turn the tables” and make accusations in this manner, but it only shows, not only a deep insensitity to the suffering of others, but a vile ignorance as well.
Simply put, “genocide” is the deliberate destruction of an entire race (whatever that may be).
What the nazis did was “attempted” genocide, and they were fairly successful (about half the world jewish population).
Another example is the attempted genocide by the Turks of Armenians (around a million killed).
What occurred in Rwanda is a recent example, as is the attempted genocide by arabs in Darfur.
Perhaps the most successful attempt at genocide of all time is that of the native population of the americas by european settlers.
Here, about 95 - 99% were wiped out.
Of course, this took some hundreds of years; what the nazis did happened in a few short years, so they get the prize for efficency.
Ethnic cleansing is another matter, more concerned with the removal of a certain group from a particular area (but usually involves a lot of killing to achieve this).
The British were experts at this, as were the Ottomans, and more recently Pakistan in the cleansing of Hindus from Kashmir.
Some of you will probably say that this is what Israel has done (or is doing), but I find it interesting that in the two recent separations after British colonial rule (Palestine and India) the result has been that the non-muslim part after separation has retained a significant and substantial muslim population (In Israel and India) while the muslim dominated part (the rest of the Middle East, Pakistan) retains almost no jewish or hindu population.
This would seem to be exceedingly strong evidence about who is really doing the “ethnic cleansing” here.
In any case, and again, whatever you think of the actions of Israel, no matter how “evil” you may think them to be, you cannot rightly say that these actions (with some hundreds killed) entail any sort of attempt at “genocide”
What group are they destroying? The Lebanese, the Palestinians?
If this was their desire, then surly they are completely inept and stupid.
Why don’t they just use a few of those nukes they have? That certainly would go a long way towards such a goal.
But no, I have very little fear that they will ever use them.
But if Iran should get such weapons, or if pakistan should fall under a taliban-like regime, then all bets for the survival of our world are off.
This is what scares me the most about this whole question of “terrorism”.
While it is true that, at present, those “forces” I mentioned in the beginning cause a lot more real harm, to people in general, and even to our planet, those “forces” still retain a semblance of interest in our continued existence, as consumers, as slaves, as whatever.
But I believe it when some say that they worship death and not life (kind of like when
Reagan made James Watt secretary of the interior (responsible for the environment), a born again christian who believed the world was coming to an end soon, so, of course, no need for any protection of the environment).
I do not think that this is true of all, or even most muslims; but too many have fallen under their sway (such as the palestinian mothers who want to have lots of children to grow up to be suicide-bombers, so that they can blow up jewish children; what an awful perversion of motherhood!).
And, to give these people any power, even if it is to oppose those we may consider unjust, is to play with a fire that may engulf and make martyrs of us all.
We cannot let that day ever happen.
We must strive towards a true peace, a true brotherhood of all, ever mindful that to do so we must be ruthless in eliminating anything, whatever belief or whatever prejudice, that gets in the way of this only worthy goal.
Hafeez
July 28th, 2006 at 9:43 pm
Suis un libanais de montreal, qui vie au Canada depuis l’age de 2 ans, ce qui signifie que mon pays d’origine est le Liban.Sur les terres libanaise je suis nee et c la-bas k un jour je voudrais terminer. Comment cela sera possible avec la paix qui est etouffer par la fumer des bombes israeliennes.En 1986 je suis nee, une des annee meurtrier au Liban a cause de la guerre civil et les israelien ki se deplacer comme des touristes mais toute en demaulissant tout deriere eux. 20 ans plutard et cela recommence sous pretexte de defence.Ceux que j’entend et je vois du present au Liban me tue et je suis au Canada.J’ai pu mourrir 20 fois par jour a chaque image, une photo vaux mille mots.Combien de photo le monde entier devrai voir pour comprendre ce qui arrive, combien d innocent devrai mourir,combien d’enfant devrai souffrir.Ma famille etait au liban durant le debut de cet guerre, 2 soeur et un frere avec ma mere.Ils ont etaient sous un toit avec plusieur autre civils.Si un missile na pas attirer sur se toit c juste une chance car nulle sont sous une securite sur la terre libanaise.Les grande puissance appuye ses actes de terroriste considerer legitime defense, pas etonnant des etats de dire defence, la meme defence k ils ont donner au japan durant la guerre mondial.Personne a dit a Israel de sortir du Sud pendant les 20 ans d occupation, personne,Maintenant depuis 6 ans d occupation d’une milice fesant une defence a notre pays ki est leur aussi se voit demander de sortir et de casiment ouvrir porte a l’Israel.Ils savent k il demande l impossible, ils veulent pousser sa plus loin car pour eux ya rien de plus glorieux qu’une autre race Humaine-Arabe-Musulman peris sous la fumer et les cendres des autre, ya rien de plus glorieux ke de nous voire se noyer dans un bain de sang, sans nourriture ni eau.Ils nous pointe des doigt avec leur mot terroriste dont ils ont siter la definition ki est : TOUT race s opposant a NOUS sont considerer terroriste,TOUT race NOUS terrorisant a rien que NOUS sont terroriste.1559 ki vont se la foutre ou je pense car rien au monde hautera une terre d’un etre naissant sur celle-ci,RIEN.J’invite tout personne a supporter la seul troupe arabe et musulman ki a affronter ceux ki en mi a genou d autre pays arabe, je le sinvite a les supporter et de faire entendre leur voix, en oubliant l element declencheur ki est totalement faux car Hezballah n’aura jamais tore de koi ke se soit et cet guerre etait deja prevu bien avans ke hezballah agisse, nos terres libanaise non jamais eter totalement liberer, ni le ciel libanais, jamais mais personne vois sa, personne vois les 10 000 prisonnier libanais en Israel mais tout simplement c 2 la, PK, certaine race sont t elle plus chere ke d autre,les etats et tout allier avec leur pouvoir ensemble en entier ne valent rien car la foie et le coeur ils ne l ont pas.Je suis a l autre bord de l ocean mais mon pouvoir est juste ma voix et je l utiliserai meme si on est des pions et de la bref poussieres pour certains.
July 29th, 2006 at 12:18 am
Well I don’t know about any of you guys but I just had to get a box of kleenex and wipe my tears…….after all that SNIVELING NONSENSE from mohamed (is that really your name…I wonder)
Dripping, insipid, gobbly gook that really did not make ANY sense at all. First of all MAKE UP YOUR MIND WHAT IT IS THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY. What was that last paragraph?? “We must strive for a worthy goal, true peace, true brotherhood of all - and YET we must be ruthless to eliminate ANYTHING? Does THAT make any sense? Too many Palestinian mothers having lots of kids so they may breed suicide bombers? Does THAT make any sense? What JUNK have you been reading?? What was that dumb crap about the environment? WHAT DOES JAMES WATT HAVE TO DO WITH THE SLAYING OF INNOCENT PEOPLE IN LEBANON, GAZA, AND THE WEST BANK. What’s with Reagan? He’s dead. what the hell do you mean?
What’s with the “forces”, “slaves”, and “consumers” and why do you have these all lumped up in one sentence? WHAT THE HELL DO THESE WORDS HAVE TO DO WITH THE RECENT DEAD OF LEBANON (and yes the dead in haifa)?
What do the hindu and ottoman nonsense have to do with the Massacre of Lebanon TODAY.
Deep insensitivity? Vile Ignorance? Honey, I could just slap those words right back at you.
When does the rights of Palestinians and their descendants expire? Well what on earth do you mean by that?
Honey, israel is not enept and israel is NOT stupid. When did I EVER say that?
What mushrooms have you been nibbling on?
israel can most certainly wipe out Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Iran, and Palestinian territories in a few swift months, maybe less. WHAT? YOU NEEDED TO BE TOLD THIS?
We are all so well aware of the machinations and manipulations of the israeli government. Also their great massive inventory of weapons of mass destruction and their nuclear weapons are well known to the UN, USA, CANADA, EUROPE, ASIA. The world has been getting a very good eyeful of those weapons of mass destructions that are tearing LEBANON to shreds with much ease and methodic measure. Kind of what you do with a piece of paper when you want to tear it up and throw it in the garbage. Do you understand what I just said? Did that get through at all?
But israel wouldn’t dare do this. Wanna know why? Then they WOULD show their true colors to the world, then they WOULD be very evil to the eyes of the world. Then the world would see the truth. So naturally they are not going to do this because they don’t need the world hating them now do they? It certainly would not serve their purpose now would all the instant wiping out of all these countries.
I HAD TO TELL YOU THIS? Do you even know what genocide means? Are you trying to tell me that israel is playing tippy toe with the utmost consideration of the Lebanese People? Dear I am not a talent scout, okay? If you’re auditioning for stupid comedy hour go find an agent because I cannot help you. Go tell the Lebanon Dead and the Lebanon Living (the Palestinians too, and the pregnant women also) about considerate israel.
isreal is insidiously, methodically, with great measured pace – (netanyahu and perez have even said this) destroying Lebanon.
Go tell the thousands of evacuees who have arrived home to Canada, USA, and other parts of the world about considerate isreal. Go tell just one person from Lebanon to their FACE. These people are talking daily if they can to the ones they left behind in LEBANON. EVERDAY and sometimes more than once or twice. WHAT? Is all this just tooo melodramatic for you?
And if the past is the past, as you say, then what the hell was all that blithering yammer of historical crap you were spitting out? MAKE SENSE at least TRY before you send your reply.
One other thing…if you do not like the “propaganda” pictures of the Lebanon Dead………then why are you bringing up the autopsy pictures of israali women????
You are one of three things:
dani…..under the name of hafeez mohammed
spirit of 911……ditto
an israeli having some fun
Whatever it is that you are…..your lack of proper communication and that mumbo jumbo mash of history or whatever the heck that was is at the very LEAST most despicably insulting to Lebanon and her people. As for the MOST that your reply is….
Well I won’t print it cuz webmaster would just cut it out anyway.
July 29th, 2006 at 1:26 am
To Shawn(your comment July 26 7:36pm)……..very well said
July 29th, 2006 at 1:52 am
This is injustice, innocent peoples are killing, this conspiracy has to stop
god will protect muslims, this war is against of muslims not for terror
July 29th, 2006 at 2:26 am
May Allah Help Lebanon people and all muslims around the world and
July 29th, 2006 at 2:43 am
No matter what they did and how many they killed and destroyed.
We will survive because we are lebanese and Lebanon never dies.
God Bless Lebanon.
ولا تحسبن الذين قتلوا امواتا بل احياء عند ربهم
July 29th, 2006 at 2:50 am
I requested to all Muslim Brother &^ sisters please BE UNITED… Otherwise Evil Countries destoyed us… its the time of unity.. Allah subhana-hu-Tala will send help soon……Pray Pray Pray just Pray
July 29th, 2006 at 2:59 am
Did I hear somone call my name ??? Never thought about doing that and don’t see the need to. I don’t have a problem using my real name.
Still waiting to hear why Hezbollah is not prepared to stop firing rockets into Israel and declare a cease fire if only for a few days to allow medical and other aid to reach those in need and to allow those in the south to evacuate in relative peace. Surely, in the name of humanity, stopping the firing of rockets into Israel and inviting Israeli reaction is not asking too much, or is it ???
July 29th, 2006 at 3:20 am
So shocked.
As I’m in Japan, far away from Lebanon, this is just like a bad dream or war movie.
But I know this is true, happening just right now, too.
I’m spreading this URL to my friends and do what we can as fast as, as much as possible.
Not buying Israeli materials, sending e-mails or phoning to Israeli embassy to stop the genoside, and curse on America.
I’m serious.
I really hope Lebanese can find right way to stand against real demons.
July 29th, 2006 at 3:56 am
Tomoko - More than happy to help with your boycott - so check out the following which will help you identify products made in Israel, designed in Israel or created in Israel:
* The cell phone was developed in Israel by Israelis working in the Israeli branch of Motorola, which has its largest development center in Israel - guess you will have to stop using your mobile phone.
* Most of the Windows NT and XP operating systems were developed by Microsoft-Israel - if you use MS Windows, guess you will have to change to another operating system.
* The Pentium MMX Chip technology was designed in Israel at Intel
* Both the Pentium-4 microprocessor and the Centrino processor were entirely designed, developed and produced in Israel
* The Pentium microprocessor in your computer was most likely made in Israel - bet you didn’t know that !!!
* Voice mail technology was developed in Israel
* Both Microsoft and Cisco built their only R&D facilities outside the US in Israel
* The technology for the AOL Instant Messenger ICQ was developed in 1996 by four young Israelis
* Medicine… Israeli scientists developed the first fully computerized, no-radiation, diagnostic instrumentation for breast cancer - bet hospitals in muslim countries will be rushing to throw this equipment out now that they know where it was developed !!!
* An Israeli company developed a computerized system for ensuring proper administration of medications, thus removing human error from medical treatment
* Israel’s Given Imaging developed the first ingestible video camera, so small it fits inside a pill. Used to view the small intestine from the inside, cancer and digestive disorders
* Researchers in Israel developed a new device that directly helps the heart pump blood, an innovation with the potential to save lives among those with heart failure. The new device is synchronized with the camera helps doctors diagnose heart’s mechanical operations through a sophisticated system of sensors
* A new acne treatment developed in Israel, the Clear Light device, produces a high-intensity, ultraviolet-light-free, narrow-band blue light that causes acne bacteria to self-destruct — all without damaging surrounding skin or tissue
* An Israeli company was the first to develop and install a large-scale solar-powered and fully functional electricity generating plant, in southern California’s Mojave desert
All the above while engaged in regular wars with an implacable enemy that seeks its destruction, and an economy continuously under strain by having to spend more per capita on its own protection than any other county on earth.
. … . . AND THE FRENCH AMBASSADOR IN ENGLAND SAYS:
“ISRAEL IS NOTHING BUT A SHITTY LITTLE COUNTRY”
July 29th, 2006 at 4:11 am
Its, very shame,
where is trust, where is UN, why every time Muslim.
I requested to all Muslim Brother &^ sisters please BE UNITED… Otherwise Evil Countries destoyed us… its the time of unity.. Allah subhana-hu-Tala will send help soon……Pray Pray Pray just Pray
July 29th, 2006 at 4:56 am
Dear Karen and others.
I feel so sorry that you cannot understand simple reason, that you do not appreciate a balanced and sometimes ironic approach.
What you (and everyone) must ruthlessly “eliminate” is your own ignorance, your own anger, and any beliefs, whether religious, or nationalistic, or whatever, that get in the way of doing this. I would expect anyone with an appreciation of the wonderful poetry of the Quran to understand this type of language.
Perhaps you should go back and reread what I said instead of blindly attacking targets that do not exist.
I did not defend Israeli actions in Lebanon, only sought to bring some clarity in the rhetoric and to the historical context.
Again, what Israel does is neither genocide nor terrorism. Call it something else, denounce it all you wish, but it is not these things.
What does all this have to do with the current situation?
I thought I made that abundantly clear.
You should do everything possible to bring a stop to this violence.
Has ranting and raving at israelis and the “evil” jews achieved anything?
So what action can you do?
Simple (how many times do we have to repeat this?): return the two soldiers and stop the bombardment of Israel.
Is this action so intolerable? If it stops all the death and suffering of innoncent lebanese?
So why don’t you want to do this?
Because you hate israel and jews so much?
Then don’t complain. Just fight your damn war. Revel in all the death and destruction.
Celebrate all the new “martyrs”.
As I said, unless you admit to being a bloody hypocrite, you can’t have it both ways.
My attempt at a small history lesson was to show you that the jewish people have as much right to this land as anyone (personally I don’t believe in nationalistic rights such as these, but if we must have “nations”, then “Israel” is as legitimate as any other).
This was to get you to realize the value in “eliminating” some of the prejudices and “beliefs” that make you blind to all this, that make you cherish so much your own anger, your own hatred, your own racism; but I see that you wish to keep yourself blind, as it were.
I feel really sad for you.
And I feel really sad for our world that so many such as you keep letting yourselves be fools.
I’m sure that those “forces” I mentioned, if they were personified, those that keep so much of the world in a miserable state of poverty and suffering and violent conflict, all for
their own gain, they must be laughing at such as you for being so easily duped…
July 29th, 2006 at 5:07 am
Attetion: Supporters of the Israeli force being used, your own worst enemy is your Prime Minister “Ehud Olmert” he has shown the true nature of the beast! He has shown a new ugly face of evil. The Israeli goventments own creation again.., I say is Hezb allah. A resistance movement! Now you deal with what comes from you, Born in 1982. It’s sad but so so very true!!
Long live Lebanon
Long live Lebanon
Long live Lebanon
July 29th, 2006 at 5:19 am
Some of you say return the soldiers taken by Hezballah??!!
I say ok, Israel please return the stolen land…Please
No more flying over Lebanese air space and that of Palestine…Please
Go back to the original 1976 agreement…Please
Return the thousands of people you have in you prisons…From Lebanon and Palestine.Please
Is this possible !?! Please
Do not hit the red cross…Please
And all this for 2 soldiers!!!
July 29th, 2006 at 5:23 am
Hafeez mohammed = Clueless.
I apologise, but you are. I’ll pray for you to see the light one day.
Long live Lebanon…
July 29th, 2006 at 5:30 am
Thank you Tomoko.
Long live Lebanon..
July 29th, 2006 at 5:34 am
Still waiting for an answer - what is so hard to understand - if Hezbollah is so interested in humanity and helping those who are suffering, why don’t thry agree to stop firing rockets into Israel for 72 hours so that aid can reach those that need it and the innocent civilians in the south can be evacuated safely.
Its obvious that as long as rockets are being fired into Israel, Israel will reciprocate with their attacks. Stop the rocket attacks for 72 hours and let those that need help be helped.
How hard is that to understand ????
Or is provoking Israel more important than saving lives, your own people’s lives ??? Are those lives as expendable as those of your so called freedom fighters ???
July 29th, 2006 at 6:35 am
they sow the wind, and they will reap the whirlwind
It’s all Hezbollah fault…
July 29th, 2006 at 6:48 am
Dani,
Clarafication; Israel denied the U.N. access and said they would not stop the attack. Debates are a great thing but you should have your facts straight before you engage in dialog with people who educate themselves beyond CNN. Take a day to read some material from the other side. The propaganda machine is very powerful but the truth is out there, you just have to go a little deeper.
July 29th, 2006 at 7:10 am
Hello Shawn. You have missed the point. What I am saying/asking, is why doesn’t Hezbollah initiate a 72 hour cease fire off its own back in the name of humanity to led aid get through.
Wouldn’t the smart thing to do be to initiate a temporary cease fire and stop firing rockets into Israel and show the world how humanitarian they are with this gesture for 72 hours to let aid through?
What have Hezbollah got to lose by doing this ? What Israel says is totally irrelevant and I think you would find if the rockets stopped, Israel would agree to a cease fire for 72 hours for humanitarian reasons, but you will never, never know if you never, never try. There would be plenty of time after the ceasefire for fighting to continue.
As I say, what would Hezbollah have to lose? If Israel did not follow suit, Hezbollah could always go back to firing rockets, couldn’t they ??? And wouldn’t that expose Israel as the demon even more?
July 29th, 2006 at 7:27 am
Dani,
Once again you are falling victim to the American propaganda machine. I implore you to Google some Middle Eastern newspapers, articles or history. The U.N. has access from the north of Lebanon but they feel that Israel has already targeted them once and they fear it will happen again. Therefore they refuse to go in until ISRAEL ceases fire.
July 29th, 2006 at 7:58 am
Shawn - and I can argue that Israel already has agreed to safe areas for aid to pass through which Hezbollah have blocked to ensure the images of those suffering remains on the front pages of papers and the lead items on TV . We can each argue opposite cases but that is not the point.
What is the point is why can’t Hezbollah take the initiative with a cease fire?
As I have said numerous times before, what have they got to lose ??? If they are sincere in wanting to allow aid, doesn’t it make sense for them to stop firing rockets? It’s quite simple to understand I would have thought - Hezbollah fires a rocket, Israel will respond to try and take out the place where the rocket was fired from.
And if you believe Israel intentionally targets UN positions then you really are more gullible than I thought.
And by the way, are you aware of the email sent by Major Paeta Hess-von Kruedener to his superiors, a Canadian U.N. observer (and one of the observers killed) in which he warned that his post had come under “unintentional” artillery fire and aerial bombing several times in the previous weeks, and that several Hezbollah positions were in the area of the patrol base.
“It is not safe or prudent for us to conduct normal patrol activities,” wrote Kruedener in the July 18th e-mail. “(The artillery and aerial bombing) has not been deliberate targeting, but has rather been due to tactical necessity.”
Now why would he write that if he felt Israel was deliberately targetting his post ?
The fact is, Hezbollah intentionally operates close to and around UN posts knowing full well that doing this places the UN posts in the line of fire of Israeli attempts to hit Hezbollah positions similarly to the way they operate in and close to public institutions in the villages they operate out of, placing the civilian villagers in the line of fire.
July 29th, 2006 at 8:13 am
Whatever the reason, whoever the reason, whats the part of these innocent? who will argue for them? Is God forgive the reason maker? or is this the end of this world? let the reasoner to be happy with their own world and family. my sincere sorrow and prayer for all the victims…… God be with them to survive………..
July 29th, 2006 at 8:34 am
Dani,
Gullable no, infromed yes. I don’t think they purposley targeted the U.N. but if I were I driver for the U.N. I wouldn’t go in without an Israeli cease fire and I’m sure that’s the stance the U.N. is taking.
Here is the point though. If I have to choose a side I choose peace. I am just trying to get some facts out there because so many people are prepared to condemn the people of Lebanon and see Israel as a victim. Israel is a violent country with an extremely brutal past. They have kept the Lebanese and Palestinian people under their evil thumb. Every step these people take forward Israel pushes them back ten. This has been happening for decades and it is why the hatered runs so deep. I am sad the rest of the world feels the U.S. is the one pulling Israel’s strings. I am sad people think because I’m American I support Israel. What I know for a fact is ONCE again Lebanon is being destroyed again by Israel and innocent people are dying. I now that our President was embracing the Lebanese President because Lebanon was becoming a true Democratic state. Now bush acts as if he doesn’t even know the man. I know that all this violence is breeding more hate and more terrorism. You cannot defeat terror with terror.
July 29th, 2006 at 11:18 am
The French ambassador to England is a righteous dude. A good man. He has his right to free speech. His opinion ( as well as FACT) is well noted and widely praised. Good for him.
Shawn,
Yes, I have very many USA friends and Canadian friends and I have heard the opinions of others and they also despise bush. Not all Canandians and USA people are behind what israel is doing to Lebanon. And I thank God for them. If ever there are times when we need open minded people to express their views and outrage this is the time.
Shawn….you are wasting your time having a dialogue with him. HE IS A PART OF THE PROPAGANDA….HE INVENTED IT.
He failed to tell you that that was one of their many inventions.
The Arab people and Muslims have also contributed greatly to the world. Music, Art, Medicine, Numbers, and so much more. Read about Mesopotamia (which is now Iraq) on the Internet. Many of the worlds inventions took place there by great Arab scholars.
Did anyone watch cnn last night? Ibraham Hooper wanted to know HOW MANY MORE LIVES IN LEBANON is it going to take before LEBANON can have a CEASEFIRE. jeb bibbin (a zionist) laughed at him and shrugged his shoulders. He thought the question was stupid. Paula Zhan was interviewing these two men and she announced what isreal had stated the night before:
EVERY MAN, WOMAN, AND CHILD WILL BE CONSIDERED A TERRORIST.
This was on cnn Last night. Everybody keep doing what you can for Lebanon to pull of this vicious, maniacal country that is isreal off of the people of Lebanon—even if you just pray.
July 29th, 2006 at 12:07 pm
On cnn they keep showing the public these tiny little measly bullet balls in someone’s hand. These little bullets belong to the Hezbollah. Then the person showed a car riddled with these little bullets. However, the car was stil intact and the people inside were not hurt.
What about the mashed, twisted steel, completely flattened cars of Lebanon? How many of those people made it out of their cars? Do not forget…the Dead in Lebanon are well above 530 and climbing. And when some of those people did escape their cars they were gunned down by isralei from their jets. Or they just threw more bombs down on these people. Families. Unarmed. Incapable of fighting back…instead they were fleeing for their lives. Children, babies, teenagers, and parents. They had no weapons. Just their food, clothes, medicine, and what other necessities they needed.
Hundreds of these children gunned down because they are considered “terrorists”. The unimaginable horror the LIVING must witness everyday.
And the israeli people back their government 72%. Their dead can’t begin to compare to the LEBANON DEAD.
Jewish people, israeli people if you consider this ethnic cleansing justified then I suggest that you take off the shelves all your books on the jewish holocaust.
The words in those books are MEANINGLESS!
ARAB PEOPLE UNITE. You must not let this insidious brutal bullying and MASSACRE tear your will apart.
July 29th, 2006 at 1:17 pm
Tomoko, Shawn, and RK7 make so much more sense than Hafeez could possibly ever make. Reread what you just said? Kidding, right? Perhaps he should read John Kaminski, Jeff Rense, Jeff Blum, Noam Chomsky, and there are many others.
Oh here….why doncha read this? Purely entertainment reasons of course:
“Cluster munitions are unacceptably inaccurate and unreliable weapons when used around civilians,” said Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch. “They should never be used in populated areas.”
Lebanese security forces, who to date have not engaged in the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah, also accused Israel of using cluster munitions in its attacks on Blida and other Lebanese border villages. These sources also indicated they have evidence that Israel used cluster munitions earlier this year during fighting with Hezbollah around the contested Shebaa Farms area. Human Rights Watch is continuing to investigate these additional allegations.
Kenneth Roth
Human Rights Director
July 29th, 2006 at 5:08 pm
Good morning Karen - while I was asleep I see you have been active and continue to show your blatant disregard for facts and truth, but why should I be surprised, coz I’m not.
Karen, let me ask you why do you think Hezbollah won’t take the intiative and declare a cease fire and stop firing rockets into Israel for 72 hours and thereby allow aid to freely reach all those that need it? Why Karen? Can you answer that simple question?
And the answer that Israel will continue to attack is bollocks - they will continue to retaliate against the sites where these rockets are being fired from so why won’t Hezbollah give it a break for 72 hours ??? Huh ??? Why wont’t they show the world how moral they are ??? Come on, Karen, please explain !!!
July 29th, 2006 at 5:22 pm
Shawn, my friend. Believe what you want to believe and what you are being told to believe.
In a previous life, I actually participated in meetings as a representative of a NGO within the UN framework and also had the opportunity to meet and talk with UN people.
Now let me tell you, my friend, that many of these people privately supported Israel’s stance regarding terrorism and attacking the places where these extremist groups operated from, mainly within civilian populated areas, but publicly these same people could not say what they felt for either fear of putting themselves and their families into a position of danger or because it was against the policy of the organisation they worked for and could result in them being reprimanded or losing their job.
July 29th, 2006 at 5:24 pm
Dani,
I went back and read your past blogs. You are not one to talk about blatant disregard for facts. You need to read something else besides the headlines. Why are you stuck on Hezbollah needing to cease fire. The aid won’t come in because of Israel. While you lay asleep in your comfy little bed without fear of being bombed out of you bed, Israel fired on the U.N. AGAIN!!! Israel is stopping the aid from coming in not Hezbollah. I support neither group but people who debat without the facts are only showing off their ignorance.
July 29th, 2006 at 5:30 pm
La ILAHA illa allah Mu7ammad rasul allah
as long as we arabs and muslims are separeted, the jews and the americans will keep beating us.
July 29th, 2006 at 5:38 pm
Shawn - read my earlier post about Hezbollah intentionally operating near UN posts knowing full well that injuries to UN personnel could (hopefully from their standpoint) result from Israeli strikes against these Hezbollah positions.
July 29th, 2006 at 5:42 pm
Dani,
Well, that last paragraph pretty well sums up your mental state now doesn’t it. By the way Dani, To check you out I looked up some of your so called facts and noticed some of your information was copied word for word from Israeli propaganda machines. That’s not debat…..THATS PLAGIARISM.
July 29th, 2006 at 6:05 pm
So Shawn, presenting another opinion is not allowed wherever it may come from? Reporting on this board that a UN officer acknowledged that Israel was not targetting the UN post is not allowed? Give me a break.
And thanks for worrying about my mental state - quite fine, actually. Doesn’t change the fact that Hezbollah operates close to UN posts for obvious reasons and in and around civilian institutions.
And if you think Israel is targetting UN posts, why aren’t they destroyed ???
What has Israel got to gain from intentionally attacking UN and other such facilities ?
July 29th, 2006 at 6:16 pm
If you were part of the U.N. you know that Lebanon did not follow through with resolution 1559. With such a weak government how could they? Then you also know that Israel is in viloation of a dozen U.N. resolutions to include the occupation of Palestinian territories and the well documented cases of human rights abuses. So if you know this (smart U.N. guy) how do you defend Israel? How do defend a nation of Evil killing innocent Lebonese? Read a book before you jump on someone’s band wagon without having a clue what you speak of and whom you defend!!!!!!!!
July 29th, 2006 at 6:23 pm
1955 -1999…..65 U.N. resolutions against Israel for their actions against the Lebonese and Palestinian people.
1955 - 1999…..0 U.N. resolution against the Lebanese or Palestinian people.
July 29th, 2006 at 6:30 pm
Karen,
Why are you so angry?
I think we should just focus on this one thing, because otherwise you will just reply with confused ramblings that do little to further a discourse hopefully meant to bring greater understanding.
The pictures above show death and destruction that any person who calls themselves human should grieve over.
I would never question that.
But you seem to have more anger than grief, your comments almost wholly focused on punishing the “perpetrators” (in your mind, those evil jews), than in doing whatever you can to alleviate this situation.
This is why I mentioned seeing pictures of similar suffering on the part of the “other” side, namely victims that are undeniably innocent (such as the pregnant woman and her unborn child).
If you are angered at the situation of the Lebanese, then why are you not similarly angered at the suffering of innocent Israelis?
Don’t they count?
Perhaps you would say that the suffering of the Lebanese is much “greater”.
How so?
Certainly not in the experience of those individuals who are affected.
Then perhaps you mean in quantity?
Okay, sounds reasonable.
But then where is your anger over other, even greater tragedies, all over the world?
Your anger seems at a “maximum” when confronted with the death of some hundreds.
But what about the many thousands killed in the sunni-shia violence (more everyday, on average, than in Lebanon)?
What about the hundreds of thousands killed in Darfur (arabs killing blacks)?
What about the roughly million killed in the Iran-Iraq war?
I am sorry to burst your fantasies, Karen, but Israel, in its entire modern history, has not even remotely come anywhere near to perpetuating this “quantity” of death, destruction, and suffering.
Compared to these other players, poor little Israel is a rank amateur in this regard.
So maybe we should start talking about “disproportionate” responses again, this time about where you direct your ferocious anger.
I doubt very much that you will give an honest answer to this question, not even to yourself.
I suspect that secretly (sometimes not very) you are actually very pleased with this horrendous situation. For once again it gives you the opportunity to indulge in your favourite game of hatred and rage, you get to burn effigies of those “demon jews”, etc., etc.
Admit it, you love all this, it gets your blood boiling…stop this? Are you kidding? You never want it to stop, you want it to continue, on and on, for as long as possible.
July 29th, 2006 at 6:54 pm
Karen,
Another point (one at a time; I feel as if I were teaching kindergarten):
I cannot believe you put John Kaminsky and Jeff Rense in the same boat with Jeff Blum and Noam Chomsky!!!
Do you actually know who these people are?
The first two are both die-hard racists, Kaminsky a traditional, old-school sort, while Rense is more new- agey (he believes an extra-terrestrial (you know, aliens) zionist conspiracy controls the world, while the latter two are both very progressive and clear-headed thinkers.
Noam Chomsky is probably one of the greatest persons alive, and definitely one of my heroes. I do not agree with everything he says (or rather, sometimes, with his emphasis on certain topics) but I always find his perspective of great value.
By the way, as I am sure you know, he is Jewish, so a legitimate target for hezbollah, hamas, al-qaeda or maybe, even, al-karen…
July 29th, 2006 at 7:13 pm
Dani Dani Dani,
What have you seem to have upset a lot more people on here to while I was sleeping? ONLY I havent realy been sleeping?
I am ready to take into account that you seem to have a GOOD soul ……. If some what and secular and confused. Because you are Jewish and you have been brought up to believe in Israel’s previous claim to the land of the Palestinians and believe that ANY form of Zionism is for the good of anybody. I have decided to ask you to do some historical research …… that is if you dont already know this information and elected not to share it with us …….
1. Tell us also what the Jewish role was (if your willing to admit it) in the extention of WW1 AFTER the Germans offered the British a negotiated peace on what Lawyers call a ’status quo anti’ basis in 1916
2. What? If anything can you tell us about the “Balfour Declaration”?
3. Can you tell us also what the ‘Kol Nidre’ prayer is? You must know the one I mean. The one that jews recite first and foremost 3 times on ‘The Day of Atonement’ after they enter the Synagogue while standing ……. The only prayer (I am told) that you stand for. I know this last question can be considered antisemetic (god you guys love that word), but if you have nothing to hide with the meaning of this prayer ….. Please also explain to us its purpose?
As I have said before I am not anti Jews or anti anybody …….
I WOULD JUST APPRECIATE IT IF THE REAL TRUTH ACCORDING TO THE TRUTH BE TOLD and that the senseless murders being committed at the hands of the Israeli Army on the Innocent, which now seems to include UN observers.
Seeing as Israel is causing MOST OF THE DAMAGE, dont you think they could show some good will (because… we have been told they have nothing against the innocent Lebanese) in allowing the 72hour truce so that the NEEDY be ferried out of the WAR zone? Israel is blocking this call from the UN not Hezballah.
Meantime Israel again is taking no responsibilty in shelling an evacuation convey of regugees and journalists. Claiming that it informed the Australian Embassy that it would be dangerous to travel in that area.
I find it hard to believe that a convoy of about, I dont know, gotta be at least 100 cars draped in white sheets heading North in a long line could be mistaken for Hizballah firing ranges ……….
Can Israel regret that one too??????????????
THE WORLD MAY BE VERY SLOW IN REACTING TO THIS TERRORIST ……. but do not delude yourselves into thinking their silence is a show of support for Israel (well some of them maybe).
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
July 29th, 2006 at 7:23 pm
YES DANI,
The longer this goes on the more I am regreting having said that Israel has a right to exist. It is certainly not proving its right by its continuing acts of Terrorism on the Lebanese and anyone one else who gets in the way.
Dont try to dress it up ……. The truth is there for all to see. Unless of course your looking at it through Zion tainted glasses
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
July 29th, 2006 at 7:25 pm
YES DANI,
The longer this goes on the more I am regreting having said that Israel has a right to exist. It is certainly not proving its right by its continuing acts of Terrorism on the Lebanese and anyone one else who gets in the way.
Dont try to dress it up ……. The truth is there for all to see. Unless of course your looking at it through Zion tainted glasses
July 29th, 2006 at 7:25 pm
Angry At The Lies,
Finally some words of wisdom! It is night in America so it is my turn to lay down my head. Maybe Dani will learn something today. Remember Dani, just because the Israeli or American government or your beloved propaganda machines say it doesn’t mean it’s true. Being American you get used to political lies and learn how to uncover the truth for yourself.
July 29th, 2006 at 8:53 pm
First Hezballah were hiding amongst the innocent children and elderly in the southern villages of Lebanon. Now we find them (if we are to believe Israeli excuses) hiding near Red Cross ambulances, UN observation outposts and convoys of refugees. All regretable accidents by Israel (collatoral damage (not human beings) as the US like to call them) Israel seems so good at knowing where these Hezballah millitants are hiding out and yet the only casulaties when these areas are hit are the innocent. Most if not all Hezballah that have been killed by the Israeli army has been in the ground battle …… yet they continue to pound from their aircraft Lebanon its citizens and its infrastructure. If Israels artillary (which has been provided by the US), is so advanced and surgically aimed and measured ………….. Please explain HOW & WHY the civillian toll continues to rise. The roads continue to be destroyed. And now we are asked to believe that Hezballah has also run to the North of Lebanon …. where a new Israeli bombardment has taken place over night.
Israel is breeding suicide bombers and terrorist …… These people are born out of a desperation to protect themselves against the real Terrorist THE US & ISRAEL. Although lets get something clear here ….. Even though the US provides all military and economical aid to Israel at the expence of its own peoples health and welfare (FACT look it up) …… Israel and the American Jews are the ones pulling the strings in this so called “WAR” against terror. George Bush has now officially named Lebanon as a target of HIS war on terror. WHY! How many people have the Lebanese killed or maimed??? for Georgy Porgy to make that claim. Why none of course but dont let that stand in the way of the GOOD WAR that seems to leave only destruction and death in its wake (NOT PEACE). Look only as far as Afgahnastan and Iraq to see how well the Americans can control the Terrorist.
The truth will prevail ……. unfortunatly only at the cost of many more innocent lives and countries.
July 29th, 2006 at 8:58 pm
Shawn - Yawn !!!!
Angry - Yawn !!!!
Objective, rational people know from where you are coming so not much point in arguing with you, is there? If you want to hold up Kaminski as your shining light and source for truth and justice, that says it all.
And no Shawn, I am not a UN person - never said I was - I happened at one stage of my life to represent an international body and part of my duties included representing that organisation as an NGO within the UN framework.
Oh Angry, need to add that my glasses are made by a Jewish optometrist - no tint on them, not even a Zionist one or an imprint of the state of Israel. Maybe you can point out what I need to be looking for. In any case I will speak to my optometrist and ask him if knows anything about Zionist tinted glasses as I sure would like to know about them.
July 29th, 2006 at 9:03 pm
Angry - you really are a sick puppy as well as an anti-semite trying to denigrate Yom Kippur and the Kol Nidre service.
From Wikipedia (sorry Shawn for the plagiarism):
“Kol Nidre (Ashkenazi) or Kal nidré (Sephardi) is a Jewish prayer recited in the synagogue at the beginning of the evening service on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement. It is written in Aramaic, not Hebrew. Its name is taken from the opening words, meaning “All vows”.
“Kol Nidre” has had an eventful history, both in itself and in its influence on the legal status of the Jews. Introduced into the liturgy despite the opposition of some rabbinic authorities, attacked in the course of time by some rabbis, and in the nineteenth century expunged from the prayer-book by many communities of western Europe, this prayer has often been employed out of context by anti-Semites to support their claims that Jews cannot be trusted.
Kol Nidre sometimes does not only refer to the actual prayer, but sometimes to the entire Yom Kippur evening service”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kol_Nidre#Origin
Got to go and do some work but will catch up with you all later as I am sure there will be much to respond when I return.
July 29th, 2006 at 10:07 pm
well.. well.. well.. what can i say… ISRAEL ARE LIL PIECE OF SHIT… that can’t avoid trying to kill innocent kids and innocent families that have never even done anything to deserve losing there lifes for ppl like u … hezbollah i support for inchallah showing u that lebanon will always be lebanon and will never let u set foot in it.. u are not WELCOMED!!… i agree that the arabs in this world are not helping this situation… but one thing.. calling us terorsit ain’t the right way to go … because if u haven’t noticed who has been destroying peoples homes, leaving people without food, making innocent people die and making them lose family members and friends… opens ur eyes… look at the pictures above.. can’t u see all the poor kids that have the saffering because of u stupidity…all off this is israels fault..just because hezbollah kidnapped 2 soldiers of urs u have to go and a big deal out of it.. like wut’s ur point ? u are embarrassing ur self just stop
MAY GOD BE WITH U LEBANON AND EVERYONE IN LEBANON WE ARE ALL PRAYING FOR UR SAFETY!!
July 29th, 2006 at 11:00 pm
My Mother ,Sister, and three brothers are in Lebanon NOW!!
I refuse any and ALL who impose there dillusional opinions on THE INTENTIONS OF THE ISRAELI GOVERVMENT & ARMY NOW AND THRUOGH OUT HISTORYI!!
I was there when the Israeli army invaded Beirut and murderd 1982!!
What I saw and what my family sees now is not self defence!!!!
I refuse of all the Lies!!!!
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO OF YOU LIVED THROUGH ANY OF THIS.
I WOULD WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO OF YOU HAS THERE MOTHER SISTER AND BROTHERS THERE NOW!!!!!!!!
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHOS OPINIONS ARE BASED ON WHAT THEY READ OR WHAT THEY HAVE LIVED THROUGH…
ps.(lets not forget the people of Palestine)
FUCK THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENTS BRUTALITY AND TERROR…ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!
LONG LIVE LEBANON
LONG LIVE LEBANON
LONG LIVE LEBANON
July 29th, 2006 at 11:06 pm
My words are only meant to the political movement and stance the Israeli governtment and army have taken. I apologise for the harshness.Sorry.
Long live lebanon!
July 29th, 2006 at 11:21 pm
RK7 Aussie said,
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
on July 29th, 2006 at 11:00 pm
My Mother ,Sister, and three brothers are in Lebanon NOW!!
I refuse any and ALL who impose there dillusional opinions on THE INTENTIONS OF THE ISRAELI GOVERVMENT & ARMY NOW AND THRUOGH OUT HISTORYI!!
I was there when the Israeli army invaded Beirut and murderd 1982!!
What I saw and what my family sees now is not self defence!!!!
I refuse of all the Lies!!!!
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO OF YOU LIVED THROUGH ANY OF THIS.
I WOULD WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO OF YOU HAS THERE MOTHER SISTER AND BROTHERS THERE NOW!!!!!!!!
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHOS OPINIONS ARE BASED ON WHAT THEY READ OR WHAT THEY HAVE LIVED THROUGH…
ps.(lets not forget the people of Palestine)
STUFFFFFFF THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENTS BRUTALITY AND TERROR…ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!
LONG LIVE LEBANON
LONG LIVE LEBANON
LONG LIVE LEBANON
July 29th, 2006 at 11:34 pm
god bless lebanon,the lebanese didnt choose this war but the people of the zionist entity massively support it,this shows how discusting they r
July 29th, 2006 at 11:42 pm
Did you hear that everyone? dani mentioned a previous life. OOH. This could be scary. We must be careful not to press upon any remote expectation that he may one time make sense from this point forward. So let us just smile and agree so that his mental processes may not short circuit.
Has anyone seen the Three Faces of Eve?
July 30th, 2006 at 12:47 am
Just ONE Israeli tank firing every 2 minutes ( I am excluding countless shells that the ONE Israeli tank is actually firing because they fire more effeciently than only shooting one “guided” high explosive killing massive projectile every 2 minutes at Lebanon…..) is 2 minutes divided by 60 minutes equals 30 high tech high damage shells per ONE hour from ONE artillary tank dug in against the border making itself comfortable joined to hundreds of other Israeli tanks in an assembly line of repetitive actions across the entire border between Israel and Lebanon the last 18,19 days to date. 24 hours a day by 30 high explosive shells (of many variety) an hour equals a MINIMUM of 720 shells per ONE Israeli tank per ONE DAY. 18 days so far of Israeli constant bombing and “softening” of Lebanon. 18 days multiplied by 720 bombs a day from ONE Israeli tank equals 12,960 “SOFTENING” and, and I say and, “live video feed drone guided” explosions into peaceful Lebanon from ONE Israeli tank.TWELVE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED and SIXTY. This is ONE ISRAELI TANK. Poor poor victim of Israel, no wonder Israel is calling up “reservists” around the world, they have so much destructive killing fire power they use constantly than just the ONE TANK….land ,sea ,air….and they have to constantly kill Palestinians at the same time like usual. What a job by Israel, you figure all this killing and destruction and concentration on Lebanon would have slowed down the constant destruction and killing in the Israelis’ killing pet prison of Gaza,ext. They need reservists, of course, they need spoiled young brats to go into houses of mature men with families who do not have the arms and their families are brutalized by these spoiled young jews, many from american universities. It is like a part time job for them. Hundreds of F 16 making hundreds of “missions” each day. Many thousand Israeli tanks, be it artillary or not, or armored vehicles, going into countries and over borders at their own will and their complete government approval and occupying for days , weeks , years, decades. Ships, helicopters, special forces, ect. ect. ect.
It is ironic how Israelis had a pea shooting rocket shot from Lebanon into Israel on display..they felt this one was extra special because it went farther than the others and had somewhat more explosive capability than destroying one car and shooting ballbearings or nails, this one can destroy 2 cars and its occupants( if isreali citizens take a tiny gamble and decide not to relax at the northern beaches waiting annoyed at the constant sirens of home made bombs from Lebanon and the sound of their own fighter jets taking off and coming back around the clock)……and these toys that Israel has were and are produced mostly in the USA and fine tuned in the peaceful victimized country of stolen bulldozed land..Israel, with those toys, you really can be a very young immature spoiled Israeli arrogant ignorant killer and just plow right over a mature poor family man or woman or child just trying to exist.
Rockets from Lebanon are not to be compared, and the death toll is not to be compared, and the reason is not to be compared…that is the problem, Israel thinks it is comparable and so do it’s people……you do not see the media following every shell from Israel and telling its story of destruction, but in comparison you see a lot of tiny holes after a mickey mouse blast in Israel, making it just as big of a deal as a blast the size of a city block in Lebanon or Palestine… but you see Israeli with money and media always need and want to BALANCE IT because they are special. If Lebanon and Palestinians had your weapons, then you would find out just how special they are also… they can be just as special as you, they can “advance” from “resistance” to “terrorist” to “special”
Israel and Bush America never want balanced power in the middle east.
Lebanon is not guilty for creating “party of God” with it’s own people. They are justified to resist and organise to defend their families and country. They had no choice since they are not “special” and were killed and bombed and occupied before … by special Israelis. Israel and it’s rich government is guilty because they are “special”. Special enough to invade countries, take countries, create countries, occupy countries, cross borders, avoid peace deals, snub the international communities, bomb red cross, UN, UNIFEL , assasinate and kidnap, kill people in sorrounding regions who have been established for thousands of years and bring them back to the stone age and keep them there purposely and controllably…. and then complain and do it constantly because they do not like being resisted because they are so ’special”.
Dare not resist them across their own border, they prefer to be special just in yours. Hundreds of civilians are murdered in Lebanon, but the Israelis act like the victims and twist it so pathetically that in their victimization and aggression, they feel their few should be just as sympathized as the countless innocent hundreds and a destroyed innocent country of Lebanon. Again by guilty Israel.
Lebanese people are not guilty, Israeli people are. Lebanese people are victims and the balance is not comparable, nothing about this is, nor in Palestine, never was.
It doesn’t matter if you have additional money and colleagues in america. Lebanon has the right to resist Israel now more so then ever before. It does not matter what you say or what media says or how Israel or Bush brainwash those who can not even point out Lebanon on a map.
July 30th, 2006 at 1:02 am
Karen - as you obviously don’t understand let me spell it out for you.
By previous life I was referring to a previous position (job) I held a number of years ago that involved sitting on international bodies and representing certain groups around the world regarding their cultural, social and educational well being.
You see, Karen, in that previous life - for you please read this as a previous job - I met with lots of different people from numerous countries and had the opportunity to first hand speak to these people about a whole range of issues including the middle east situation.
And Karen, you would be very surprised how many times I met with representatives from arab and muslim countries and from eastern Europe who not only acknowledged the right of the state of Israel to exist but who also criticized actions taken by extremist groups that carried out attackes and murders in Israel in the name of Islam or in the name of furthering the Palestinian cause.
But of course these people I spoke to did so on condition that it was on the quiet and not for publication, because they knew full well what could and probably would happen to them if these sort of comments were attributed to them and reported to their superiors.
July 30th, 2006 at 1:19 am
karen, shawn and the likes: THANK U ….i read these blogs everynight..i’m one who is actually against a specific person,,sure he knows himself…but have found it absolutely pointless to attack him (excuse my choice of words),..this person seems to be stuck in his history books and the cnn news..but we must thank him for his wisdom..(or lack of)..he must be sleeping very well at night,while lebanese (and arabs) are getting killed by the minute…while the innocent lay awake wondering if its gonna be their house next??and for his team mate,its unfortunate u have that name ….
why do you keep saying “Hezbollah won’t take the intiative and declare a cease fire and stop firing rockets into Israel for 72 hours and thereby allow aid to freely reach all those that need it?”?????? get your facts straight..
i’m not happy that jewish ppl are getting killed ( as i do believe SOME may actually be innocents and don’t want this war either), just as i’m not happy about the lebanese or arabs getting killed..i don’t think anyone should be either..but plz stop with the “ISRAEL DEFENDING THEMSELVES” bs….cause its clear who is doing the attacking here….defending themselves against missles which they claim are coming from civilians’ homes and cars..or defending themselves from the little stones that may scratch their weapons?? HOW MANY MORE MASSACRES SHOULD PPL WITNESS FOR THEM TO REALIZE THAT ISRAEL IS ATTACKING LEBANON..???ITS UNFORTUNATE BUT TRUE..SOME THING MUST BE DONE AND SOON..FOR EVERYONES SAKE……
July 30th, 2006 at 1:41 am
fuck all that are pro isreal and the likes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as we speak there ar over 55 ppl buried under a bulding bombed by isreal!!! half of them children!!! buried!!! its sick!
they were taking refuge there!! Tell me how the isreali “intellegence” didnt know there innocent. they claim to have the most advanced technological weapons availabe and yet when the cause such massacre they say it was an honest mistake?????!!!!!
fuck ‘em! may everyone even slightly standing with isreal be struck down so hard with screams bouncing off deaf ears!! if this is all for two stupid soldiers (who by the way r relieved to be in hisballa’s withhold) i truly hope they’re sent back in the number of pieces representing the number of those murdered in lebanon.!!
THIS SHOULD BE READ AND DISPLAYED UNCENSORED!!! THE READERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE TRUTH!!! LA ILLAHA ILLA ALLAH!!!
July 30th, 2006 at 1:50 am
KANA AGAIN??????????…NOW EXPLAIN PLZ…ANY IDIOT SUPPORTING ISRAEL..PLEASE EXPLAIN,,I UNFORTUNATELY HAVE SOO MUCH HATE FOR U ALL..WHAT WOULD U DO IF THAT WERE YOUR MOTHERS BODY BEING HELD ON THAT STRETCHER??MAY ISRAEL NEVER HAVE PEACE IN THEIR LIVES AGAIN…..NOW THE STUPID F#*$ WILL EXCLAIM ACCIDENT….TO HELL WHO SAYS HIZIBALLAH IS THE TERRORIST…TO HELL WITH ISRAEL..
July 30th, 2006 at 1:51 am
This site says STOP DESTROYING LEBANON!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
LONG LIVE LEBANON!
July 30th, 2006 at 1:55 am
dani you say those muslims u spoke to werent up to having there comment made public!!
why didnt u say anything? you had nothing to fear…those muslims seem to be what represents all muslims as far as your concerned…Really!!
there was nothing to be afraid of unless they feared their paychecks were at stake. true muslims take a stand and if it causes them there life well then they’re honoured as martyrs..i really am sick of hearing your rightousness. please try to get access to other true media outlets preferablly none associated with states and discover whts going onthis very second!!! its insane !…then i’d like to hear about your comments!
July 30th, 2006 at 1:58 am
why have my prev post “moderated”? there should be nothing moderate on this site. who r u afraid i’d offend??
July 30th, 2006 at 2:02 am
All those words and pictures in the books about the jewish holocaust are MEANINGLESS. Isreael is deliberately killing Lebanese children. They tell the world these children are “terrorists” “dirty little animals” Paula Zahn announced on cnn that every man woman and child will be considered a “terrorist” She was repeating a quote by the zion government of isreal.
Heartless, cruel, no soul, ice cold dead isreal, your strategies have been played out well. See how the world believes your lies and propaganda about the innocent people and their babies of Lebanon. The world is almost silent…they believe your lies of these little children fleeing with their families with only food, clothes, medicine and water, that they are “terrorists” and so you must gun them down, bomb them, watch them burn, their bodies torn apart. They are now lifeless as you have always been. This is happy hour for you.
isreal does not want a ceasefire, britain does not want a cease fire, and the usa does not want a ceasefire. They have their hidden interests in the oil and land of the Middle East, they must have their monopoly and so….
They must root out the Hezbollah but in order to do so they must kill massive amounts of good decent life and destroy Lebanon’s greatness and beauty.
Forget about a ceasefire, forget about negotiating soldiers, lets just squash Lebanon to pieces and kill MORE of Her Children. Lets make sure to receive more spectacular and advanced WMD from the USA, says isreal.
After we have had our fill of murdering those “little terrorists”,
then we will have our “peace” discussions
July 30th, 2006 at 2:02 am
DANI ARE YOU ALONE AND LONELY PERHAPS??!! WELL GO BE ALONE AND LONELY SOMEWHERE ELSE PLEASE!
long live lebanon!
July 30th, 2006 at 2:04 am
hafeez mohammad = CLUELESS!
July 30th, 2006 at 2:10 am
his whole thing is stuped
but god please help lebanon and the people in it
i wish the all the best even my relatives
good luck lebanon
July 30th, 2006 at 2:14 am
the hell with all that are pro isreal and the likes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as we speak there ar over 55 ppl buried under a bulding bombed by isreal!!! half of them children!!! buried!!! its sick!
they were taking refuge there!! Tell me how the isreali “intellegence” didnt know there innocent. they claim to have the most advanced technological weapons availabe and yet when the cause such massacre they say it was an honest mistake?????!!!!!
f*#! ‘em! may everyone even slightly standing with isreal be struck down so hard with screams bouncing off deaf ears!! if this is all for two stupid soldiers (who by the way r relieved to be in hisballa’s withhold) i truly hope they’re sent back in the number of pieces representing the number of those murdered in lebanon.!!
THIS SHOULD BE READ AND DISPLAYED UNCENSORED!!! THE READERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE TRUTH!!! but sadly you all cant handle it.
LA ILLAHA ILLA ALLAH!!!
July 30th, 2006 at 2:36 am
k-i - Why the aggro ??? People I spoke with at the time did so on condition that it was off the record and in confidence as they said - their words, not mind - they could not be seen to utter such comments in public (or private for that matter) and would deny having made such comments if need be. This was said to me on numerous occasions in different forums and it wasn’t just people from Arab countries who said this - it was a common theme from many in Eastern Europe as well.
Nothing self-rigtheous about what I have stated I would have thought.
July 30th, 2006 at 3:00 am
I REFER AGAIN 4 ALL NOT SURE SCROLL 2 THE TOP OF THIS PAGE!
WHY THE AGGRO YOU YOU ASK YOU F%$*#……… FOOL!
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July 30th, 2006 at 3:09 am
DANI
I THINK MOST OF US ARE DONE WITH UR BS,,SO STOP WITH UR PRO ISRAEL SHIT ,,STOP TALKING AS THOUGH UR ABOVE ALL,,IF U THINK UR SOME SORTA GOD,THINK AGAIN…TALK ABOUT HE PRESENT MR KNOW IT ALL..HOW BOUT DEFEND ISRAEL NOW AFTER KILLING ALL THOSE KIDS AND WOMEN AND ELDERLY IN QANA AGAIN..PLZ TRY UR BEST..BE SURE TO GO BACK TO UR SOURCES WHERE ITS WRITTEN IN BOLD LETTERS THAT ISRAEL IS ABOVE ALL, JUST IN CASE GODFORBID U MAKE A COMMENT THAT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE..OH AND PLZ BE SURE TO ADD ME TO UR “ISRAELI HATING LIST”
July 30th, 2006 at 3:12 am
DANI DANI YA DANI
Oh my god ……. you are soooo funnneeeee. Truely you are. You speak to Karen like shes some sort of imbicile because she chose to make a joke about your reference to a previous life. And now you claim to not get my meaning about Zionist tainted glasses. Here let me explain it to you ……… Those that are blinded by the TRUTH and who will only see things the way the Israeli Zionist movement wishes them to see it …….. Its a play on ‘Rose coloured galsses’……… Get it get it ……. GET IT hahahahahaha I think its quite funny myself.
Now ……You’ve either overlooked my History questions or you’ve chosen to ignore them once again. Please I would like an answer to those questions I posed. With you being a History Major (specialising in the WW1 & WW2) Im sure it shouldnt be too hard for you to answer those questions. Also seeing as you are are staunch Jew you should be able to explain the ‘Kol Nidre’ prayer to the rest of us ignorant dummies that happen to fall short of our intelligence because we are not Jewish and we fail to see the TRUTH according to Israel. Oh and again one more question ……. Can your Jewish roots be traced back to the Middle East or are you one of the european New Jews
I will give you a chance to answer these questions in your own words, before I myself will answer them.
COME ON DANI dont back down NOW. These are serious questions
July 30th, 2006 at 3:47 am
ALL YOU DECENT FOLKS OUT THERE…Lebanon People, though you are suffering greatly, and good Jewish people who hate what isreal is doing (and people of Israel who held demonstrations on your streets against your government - good for you!…Punch into your computers NOAM CHOMSKY THE DEATH OF A NATION. Listen to what NOAM has to say - it is very good!
hafez….I KNOW that Noam Chomsky is Jewish. I KNOW of his work. I would not have brought up any of those men if I hadn’t read their articles and watched them on TV. I KNOW what I am talking about. Do YOU know what these men are talking about, especially Noam Chomsky?
Do you even know who YOU are?? Because there is no way that your name is Mohammed. You’re just playing games with Lebanese People who are suffering immeasurably and this satisfies you, doesn’t it? That’s how pathetic you are.
NO Muslim would speak in the half baked manner that you do… about about the Middle East, the Palestinian People, the Lebanese People.
Certainly no Muslim would EVER say that Jeff Rense and John Kaminsky were racist. NEVER. Muslims around the world would welcome TRUTHS that are hardly ever told or printed anymore. These men with their exhaustive investigations are opening the minds of people who read their articles. Thank God for these men and other men and women like them.
Your name is definitely not Mohammed.
If you must feel sad for anyone - take a look in the mirror. You know, the mirror that is always close by.
July 30th, 2006 at 3:48 am
To Spirit 9/11
Yeah you should know what your talking about mate. 9/11 according to all sources was carried out by Saudi nationals ……… So you attacked Afgahnastan. Saddam Hussein was posing a threat to Israel (not realy, but they scaremongered you into believing it …. So under the pretence of going into Iraq after WMD, you invded Iraq. Tell me has georgy boy found those weapons yet. No!!!! …….. well never mind, you disposed of one man at the cost of 10’s of 1000’s of innocent lives. Your president has been proven to be a cowardly lier time and again and yet you choose to still believe him. Hide behind your cowardly Presidents Lies and the Jewish lies, who have your country by the balls. Some of you Americans (just you blind sheep, not those brave Americans who choose to find the truth out for themselves) wouldnt even know where Lebanon was if it wasnt for the Jewish need to destroy the country. As for Israel wanting the end of the Lebanese, that would extend to all Arabs, Israel knows it cant get away with a total genocide in one hit so it is systematically working by the hundreds for now.
You are such a red neck, im surprised you even know how to read, let alone repeat the lies you’ve been fed by your Terrorist Government.
Saddam Hussein is considered an evil dictator ……. Im surprised and amazed at how he has resigned himself to his fate at this stage with some dignity. I wonder if your precious georgy boy was in the same position ……. I dare say hed be peeing and shitting his pants and crying non stop for someone to save his sorry ass from his fate. But never mind his turn is comeing as is Israels and the quasi Jews who are responsible for creating terrorist the world over.
Go on stamp your feet and scream at the informed, that you know more than them …….. But you are a product of the mass media that is controlled by the Jews. Mass hysteria and mass ignorance. Ready to believe anything your told to make you sleep better at night.
MY GOD HOW CAN YOU SEE THOSE IMAGES and not only SLEEP, but continue to justify it. NOTHING AND NO ONE CAN JUSTIFY YOUR TERRORISM.
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
July 30th, 2006 at 4:12 am
Hi Karen - no, I am happy to sit back and wait to read your version of history and religion.
In fact, I will take a break from posting here for a while but will monitor what is going on from a distance as it would appear that I am upsetting some people with an alternate viewpoint.
And by the way Karen, and all others, I am deeply distressed over what is going on in both Leabanon and Israel - I do not want to see innocent lives ON BOTH SIDE taken as a result of war and fighting that could be avoided with a bit of good will and sincerity.
Hezbollah (Iran) knew exactly what it was doing when it started the current conflict and to their credit have master-minded a brilliant series of events to gain media and international support through provoking Israel to react, something that they knew Israel would do - that it cost hundreds of lives is totally irrelevant to Hezbollah.
So I will leave you (for a while anyway) with the following observations:
1) The state of Israel will continue to exist when this fighting/war is over.
2) Lebanon will rebuild to once again be the warm, vibrant country it once was and will again enjoy prosperous times and tourism will once again blossom and help grow and benefit the Lebanese economy.
3) A buffer zone will be established on the southern Lebanon border with Israel and will be monitored by an effective peace-keeping force with the will and strength to take action when necessary - Hezbollah and similar groups will not be allowed to once again store weapons in the area and use the region to stage attacks into Israel.
4) Hezbollah will continue to exist - what direction it takes will be up to the people of Lebanon to decide.
5) Israel will assess its military campaign and will take appropriate action to rectify any inadequacies as exposed in the current conflict and in the light of extremist groups such as Hezbollah now having access to longer range rockets and the realisation that unprovoked attacks from such groups could take place at any time.
See you later.
July 30th, 2006 at 4:37 am
Anyone interested in finding out the truth about the Jews and the real reason they were given the stolen land of Palestine should look up Benjamin H. Freedman. An article called A Jewish Defector Warns America. This information is TRUE. You can check it out for yourself. Google it and you should find it. Im sorry that I dont have a link to pass on. Read it and then do the research ………. The world can no longer stand by and watch and do nothing against these Jewish Tyrants and their lap dogs the US. For you Israeli supporters read it and weep. For those that suspect the TRUTH about Israel …… Well here are your facts. ENJOY
July 30th, 2006 at 4:52 am
DANI DANI DANI
Are you ignoring me and my questions? Why I wonder? Could I possibly have hit a raw nerve that you dont wish to address for fear that it may incriminate you? To save you scrolling up to find it, I shall cut & paste it for you. Now arent I a good Lebanese neighbour. This is your last chance to answer these questions, before I do it myself and shed a little light on your misguided notions. And I do believe you when you say that you are deeply distressed …… But your continuing support of these attrocities belie your words ……. Oh well I believe you.
Please before you retire from your on slaught of World according to Israel. I ask you in good faith to answer these questions:-
1. Tell us what the Jewish role was (if your willing to admit it) in the extention of WW1 AFTER the Germans offered the British a negotiated peace on what Lawyers call a ’status quo anti’ basis in 1916
2. What? If anything can you tell us about the “Balfour Declaration”?
3. Can you tell us also what the ‘Kol Nidre’ prayer is? You must know the one I mean. The one that jews recite first and foremost 3 times on ‘The Day of Atonement’ after they enter the Synagogue while standing ……. The only prayer (I am told) that you stand for. I know this last question can be considered antisemetic (god you guys love that word), but if you have nothing to hide with the meaning of this prayer ….. Please also explain to us its purpose?
4. Are you descendant from the middle east jews or the european jews?????
Come on Dani, Im counting on you to give me your answers. If you ignore this again, it would mean you dont want to tell the TRUTH
July 30th, 2006 at 6:13 am
Dani,
I finally understand your position and why you are here defending Israel on a site called “Stop Destroying Lebabnon”. There are millions of blogs on the net dedicated to this evil destruction of Lebanon. The Jews have come out in full force logging on to these sites trying to defend Israel. Turn on the news for 1 hour and you’ll see 15 or more Israeli politicians, spokesmen or military leaders trying to convince the world what their doing is right. Stop wasting your time. You’d have better luck trying to convince people smoking is good for you. I woke this morning to find that the evil empire has killed 65 women and children in one shot. Condi cancelled her trip to Lebanon recognizing that Israel can stop this massacre and that she needs to be talking to them. The Jews are sowing their seeds deeper and deeper. I sit here and wait for the rest of the Muslim world to say enough is enough.
July 30th, 2006 at 6:26 am
WHY DON’T YOU PUBLISH ISRAELY PHOTOS?!
Hezballah kill jews for only their being jews, Hezballah use Lebanon’s citizens, why there is no responce, ha?!
July 30th, 2006 at 6:42 am
“God watching everything what going on in Labanon One day he will Punish Israel then israel will go right way” Israil dont know this thing there all childrens and womens killing. If God give me little bit power i will destroy Israel and USA.
July 30th, 2006 at 7:14 am
Hafeez Muhamass ……….. munnerk heirfez shee baby.
You are a dumbass and a blind and ignorant fool to say that Israel has not caused as many deaths as other nations (I didnt know this was a competition?)
When the Truth gets out, and it will. Israel (the government, not the biblicle Jews) will be seen and recognised as the perpatrator of most, if not all the evil in this world. They have defied God time and time again. They are the true anti-christs. Yes call me anti semetic, I am. For I have learnt the truth. And the world is now a witness to Israels evil and pretences of self defence and ridding the world of the terrorist group hezbollah. On a scale of terrorism hezbollah are Mother Theresa compared to Israel. Open your eyes and your ears and hear the pain of the Lebanese and the world under the tyranny of the quasi jews and their greed for power. I think that the real reason these quasi jews want Palestine is so that they can also control the 3 largest religous groups in the world. So that they can hold the region for ransom and therefore achieve their evil plans for world domination ………. WHahhaahhahahahaha (insert evil laugh).
For this is the truth according to quasi jew intentions!
July 30th, 2006 at 7:37 am
Евреи, хватить беспредельничать.Из за двух человек вы уничтожили больше и принесли столько горя оставшимся.
July 30th, 2006 at 7:57 am
wat can i say…i have tears in my eyes….wats this world coming to….when is it going to be enuf for these jews…..may Allah have mercy on the vicitms…May their souls rest in peace…Ameen…
July 30th, 2006 at 8:32 am
50 - 60 more women and children dead. There is no defence for this. this is pure evil.Pure and blind evil. History, un ugly history is in the making as we speak!! the Israeli government is pure evil. Pure evil. Your self defence is pure evil. For the next thousand years this will be in history as pure evil. Enough blood is being spilt.
DANI YOU ARE ALONE AND LONELY PERHAPS??!! WELL GO BE ALONE AND LONELY SOMEWHERE ELSE PLEASE!
julia you are an idiot!! there are no photos, you idiot!! But plenty to see in Lebanon!!!!! the blood of women and children are on your hands till the of time.
Long live Lebanon..
July 30th, 2006 at 8:41 am
Płakałem. Płaczę.
I cried. I cry.
Chciałbym mieć boga żeby modlić się za Liban.
Wish I had a god to pray for Lebanon.
Chciałbym dożyć pokoju…
Wish I live to see the peace…
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Dani, proszę odejdź. W pokoju.
Dani, go away. Please.
July 30th, 2006 at 8:48 am
STOP DESTROYING LEBANON STOP DESTROYING LEBANON STOP DESTROYING LEBANON STOP DESTROYING LEBANON STOP DESTROYING LEBANON STOP DESTROYING LEBANON STOP DESTROYING LEBANON STOP DESTROYING LEBANON STOP DESTROYING LEBANON STOP DESTROYING LEBANON STOP DESTROYING LEBANON STOP DESTROYING LEBANON STOP DESTROYING LEBANON STOP DESTROYING LEBANON STOP DESTROYING LEBANON
July 30th, 2006 at 8:56 am
ANY ONE WHO DOES NOT AGREE F%$K OFF! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
LONG LIVE LEBANON AND PRAY FOR THE WOMEN, MEN AND CHILDREN THAT ARE DEAD!
July 30th, 2006 at 9:26 am
Karen,
I noticed that you did not answer even remotely the question I asked you (about your “disproportionate” anger).
And your embrace of unashamed racist kooks is very indicative of the very poor powers of reasoning that you display.
Unfortunately, as you imply, it is also endemic to most (but not all) of islamic culture, where “truth” is only that which supports your biases and prejudices, and anything which doesn’t fit your little fantasies you deny, despite any or even overwhelming evidence to the contrary, despite any and all reason.
This is true of all racists (a fantasy in itself, since modern biological science proves that there is really no such thing as “race”, any genetic variance between so-called “races” are orders of magnitude less than the genetic variance within any particular race; in other words, the “difference” between the average black person and the average white person, say, is much, much less than the difference may be between any two white people or any two black people), and this is true of conspiracy theorists, holocaust deniers, and other assorted fanatics.
And it is also true when you, and others, deny who I am.
This is, personally, very offensive; and it brands you as very foolish.
As someone once said, “I am who I am”, and nothing you say will make me disappear.
For the record, I was indeed born and raised in a well-educated middle-class muslim family.
And yes, I was one of those who whole-heartedly celebrated and rejoiced when jewish women and children were killed. In fact, this was better even than when soldiers were killed.
And almost everyone around me, my family, my friends, all my neighbours did the same.
Killing jews was even better than killing americans; we all looked foward to such events, always wished for more. If a few of our fellows had to be “martyred” for this joy to occur, this was a small and acceptable price.
You see, nothing was more important than our anger.
Nothing.
So, when I questioned you earlier, I was not trying to attack you, but to get at the root of a problem that I know very well, and very personally.
I now see this as perhaps the most tragic flaw in the muslim mind-set. It prevents everything else good from coming in, it prevents all reason, all perspective, all moderation.
It turns us all into animals; no, worse than animals.
Somehow, somehow, perhaps spurred on by personal tragedies, perhaps aided by my travels to Palestine and elswhere (I still have many close Palestinian friends), I eventually began to question all this.
Slowly I began to understand that some of my most dearly held beliefs were…wrong.
Just that. They were wrong. That all this anger and hatred that I had mistaked for a sense of “justice” actually, most often, prevented any real justice from taking place.
And this “jihad” which I waged with myself led me away from Islam. I am sorry; a lot of you will find this contradictory, but this is the “truth” of my experience.
And no, I did not jump into the arms of another religion; neither christian, nor jewish, nor hindu or any other.
I still retain an intense interest in things spiritual, and find much of value in the many traditions and philosophies.
But I have also found that it is our utmost responsibility, each and every one of us, to not accept any one thing blindly, but to always use our minds, our reason, to judge and evaluate things.
As far as “Islam” is concerned, I will never return. I do not know if the religion itself is fatally flawed, or just the cultures and societies of its followers, but I do not hold out much hope when renowned religious “scholars” repeatedly attest, for instance, that it is allah’s words (and not a single one can be changed) that a woman who is raped needs four witnesses to have have any hope of punishing her rapist, and that, if such “proof” is not forthcoming, or is found insufficient, then she has “admitted” to adultery and must be punished accordingly.
The thing is, Karen, when I grew away from all this, it was as if a terrible weight, an awful burden, had been lifted from me.
And wonder of all wonders, I found my anger dissipating, eventually almost altogether dissappearing.
And it was as if a dense fog had been lifted from my brain, a vile sludge removed from my heart.
I am no longer so angry, even when you, and so many others here, would insult me, or even deny my very identity.
So I can take what you say with equanimity.
Unfortunately, I think that your anger prevents you to do the same, from seeing any point of view but your own very rigid one, and thus precludes any true discourse which can lead to a greater mutual understanding.
This is what I find sad, for the pattern I find here is at the root of the situation in the greater world.
Again, for the record, I do not agree with the military actions of the Israeli government. Personally, I am what you might call a near-pacifist.
But I do understand the military logic (misguided or ineffective as it may be) of what they do.
On the other side, though, there is no “logic”, only anger, only the desire for revenge.
And there are certainly much worse criminals, and criminal nations, in the world.
This is what I was trying to point out to.
So why all this focus on Israel?
Again, I strongly suspect it is not really the desire to “stop” all this suffering (else the great reluctance to take or a least push for the simple actions that will do this) but rather the glee in the opportunity to once again vent your hatred and bash your favourite whipping boy.
I know this is certainly how I would have once behaved, how much of my family and friends still do.
Just be honest about this, you all know this is true.
As far as Noam Chomsky is concerned, I think he would be very loathe to be classified with those other “fellows”.
If nothing else, he would instantly dismiss the addle-brained detritus that tries to pawn itself off as some sort of “critical” thinking.
Really, Karen, ETs? Is that what you believe?
What Noam Chomsky always emphasizes is rigourous and ruthless (there’s that word again) thought and reasoning, applied to reliable evidence and data from as many sources as possible.
I see very little of that here in this “discussion”.
You do not “balance” fox news with al-jazeera.
You do not get “truth” by mixing two “lies”.
If you have ever seen or heard (or read) Noam Chomsky you should really know that he is almost devoid of any “anger”, that it always the Truth (with a capital T) that he seeks, and that he understands that anger only gets in the way of this enterprise.
I implore you to do the same.
July 30th, 2006 at 9:43 am
I hate Israel =- just evil
July 30th, 2006 at 10:09 am
God Bless Lebanon
July 30th, 2006 at 10:58 am
I feel for the poorer Lebanese, the ones that have not been able to secure a get away plan like getting Canadian or American citizenship since that last war on Lebanon.
How many Lebanese-Canadians are there? And they are all on holiday in Lebanon….give me a break….the lebanese that cannot get out are the ones suffering not the ones that complained about their paid return to Canada.
This is a war, innocents get killed..yes it’s true, not just in Lebanon..get Hezballah to stop putting all in danger. The Lebanese have to take some responsibility in this affair!
Take a look inside your own heart and you will find no difference between that of an Israelis heart, if it is peace you want, you must begin with peace yourself!
May you find love for your brothers and sisters on this planet
July 30th, 2006 at 11:12 am
I do not answer LUNK HEADS. Anyway, you are not from a Muslim family. You’re lying. Your sentences run like much diarrhea. What you’re really doing is preaching zionism - really, that is what you are doing. That’s typical for a zionist to hide himself on this website, pretend to be Muslim, use the Prophet’s name of ALL things (not clever, but most obvious) and preach hatred against Islam. Yes my little zionist piglet, that will solve everything.
Meanwhile, over 50 people, mostly women and children are buried under a huge concrete rubble in Qana, today, this July 30. They are DEAD. May God have taken their souls before they felt any pain or terror.
As for the Living People of Lebanon and anyone in the world who are family to these People or have roots in Lebanon..THEY are living a NIGHTMARE of the most indescribable of horrors. And the MEMORIES of their DEAD and how they died and why they died causes their pain to go that much deeper.
This must feed your orgiastic desires for gross, gluttonous entertainment, little zion demon piglet.
TO JULIA
WHY DO ISRAELI CHILDREN HAVE THEIR SIGNATURES ON ADVANCED, STATE OF THE ART WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION , delivered by the USA, bought and paid for by American Tax Payers, TO BE USED TO TEAR APART THE BODIES OF PALESTINIAN AND LEBANESE CHILDREN??
HOW MANY YOUR DEAD AGAINST LEBANON DEAD ALONE!!!!!????
July 30th, 2006 at 11:23 am
The Shame of Being an American
Saturday, 29 July, 2006 @ 7:38 PM
By Paul Craig Roberts
Gentle reader, do you know that Israel is engaged in ethnic cleansing in southern Lebanon?
Israel has ordered all the villagers to clear out. Israel then destroys their homes and murders the fleeing villagers. That way there is no one to come back and nothing to which to return, making it easier for Israel to grab the territory, just as Israel has been stealing Palestine from the Palestinians.
Do you know that one-third of the Lebanese civilians murdered by Israel’s attacks on civilian residential districts are children? That is the report from Jan Egeland, the emergency relief coordinator for the UN. He says it is impossible for help to reach the wounded and those buried in rubble, because Israeli air strikes have blown up all the bridges and roads. Considering how often (almost always) Israel misses Hezbollah targets and hits civilian ones, one might think that Israeli fire is being guided by US satellites and US military GPS. Don’t be surprised at US complicity. Why would the puppet be any less evil than the puppet master?
Of course, you don’t know these things, because the US print and TV media do not report them.
Because Bush is so proud of himself, you do know that he has blocked every effort to stop the Israeli slaughter of Lebanese civilians. Bush has told the UN “NO.” Bush has told the European Union “NO.” Bush has told the pro-American Lebanese prime minister “NO.” Twice. Bush is very proud of his firmness. He is enjoying Israel’s rampage and wishes he could do the same thing in Iraq.
Does it make you a Proud American that “your” president gave Israel the green light to drop bombs on convoys of villagers fleeing from Israeli shelling, on residential neighborhoods in the capital of Beirut and throughout Lebanon, on hospitals, on power plants, on food production and storage, on ports, on civilian airports, on bridges, on roads, on every piece of infrastructure on which civilized life depends? Are you a Proud American? Or are you an Israeli puppet?
On July 20, “your” House of Representatives voted 410-8 in favor of Israel’s massive war crimes in Lebanon. Not content with making every American complicit in war crimes, “your” House of Representatives, according to the Associated Press, also “condemns enemies of the Jewish state.”
Who are the “enemies of the Jewish state”?
They are the Palestinians whose land has been stolen by the Jewish state, whose homes and olive groves have been destroyed by the Jewish state, whose children have been shot down in the streets by the Jewish state, whose women have been abused by the Jewish state. They are Palestinians who have been walled off into ghettos, who cannot reach their farm lands or medical care or schools, who cannot drive on roads through Palestine that have been constructed for Israelis only. They are Palestinians whose ancient towns have been invaded by militant Zionist “settlers” under the protection of the Israeli army who beat and persecute the Palestinians and drive them out of their towns. They are Palestinians who cannot allow their children outside their homes because they will be murdered by Israeli “settlers.”
The Palestinians who confront Israeli evil are called “terrorists.” When Bush forced free elections on Palestine, the people voted for Hamas. Hamas is the organization that has stood up to Israel. This means, of course, that Hamas is evil, anti-Semitic, un-American and terrorist. The US and Israel responded by cutting off all funds to the new government. Democracy is permitted only if it produces the results Bush and Israel want.
Israelis never practice terror. Only those who are in Israel’s way are terrorists.
Another enemy of the Jewish state is Hezbollah. Hezbollah is a militia of Shi’ite Muslims created in 1982 when Israel first invaded Lebanon. During this invasion the great moral Jewish state arranged for the murder of refugees in refugee camps. The result of Israel’s atrocities was Hezbollah, which fought the Israeli Army, defeated it, and drove it out of Lebanon. Today Hezbollah not only defends southern Lebanon but also provides social services such as orphanages and medical care.
To cut to the chase, the enemies of the Jewish state are any Muslim country not ruled by an American puppet friendly to Israel. Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the oil emirates have sided with Israel against their own kind, because they are dependent either on American money or on American protection from their own people. Sooner or later these totally corrupt governments that do not represent the people they rule will be overthrown. It is only a matter of time.
Indeed Bush and Israel may be hastening the process in their frantic effort to overthrow the governments of Syria and Iran. Both governments have more popular support than Bush has, but the White House Moron doesn’t know this. The Moron thinks Syria and Iran will be “cakewalks” like Iraq, where ten proud divisions of the US military are tied down by a few lightly armed insurgents.
If you are still a Proud American, consider that your pride is doing nothing good for Israel or for America.
On July 20 when “your” House of Representatives, following “your” US Senate, passed the resolution in support of Israel’s war crimes, the most powerful lobby in Washington, the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), quickly got out a press release proclaiming “The American people overwhelming support Israel’s war on terrorism and understand that we must stand by our closest ally in this time of crisis.”
The truth is that Israel created the crisis by invading a country with a pro-American government. The truth is that the American people do not support Israel’s war crimes, as the CNN quick poll results make clear and as was made clear by callers into C-Span.
Despite the Israeli spin on news provided by US “reporting,” a majority of Americans do not approve of Israeli atrocities against Lebanese civilians. Hezbollah is located in southern Lebanon. If Israel is targeting Hezbollah, why are Israeli bombs falling on northern Lebanon? Why are they falling on Beirut? Why are they falling on civilian airports? On schools and hospitals?
Now we arrive at the main point. When the US Senate and House of Representatives pass resolutions in support of Israeli war crimes and condemn those who resist Israeli aggression, the Senate and House confirm Osama bin Laden’s propaganda that America stands with Israel against the Arab and Muslim world.
Indeed, Israel, which has one of the world’s largest per capita incomes, is the largest recipient of US foreign aid. Many believe that much of this “aid” comes back to AIPAC, which uses it to elect “our” representatives in Congress.
This perception is no favor to Israel, whose population is declining, as the smart ones have seen the writing on the wall and have been leaving. Israel is surrounded by hundreds of millions of Muslims who are being turned into enemies of Israel by Israel’s actions and inhumane policies.
The hope in the Muslim world has always been that the United States would intervene in behalf of compromise and make Israel realize that Israel cannot steal Palestine and turn every Palestinian into a refugee.
This has been the hope of the Arab world. This is the reason our puppets have not been overthrown. This hope is the reason America still had some prestige in the Arab world.
The House of Representatives resolution, bought and paid for by AIPAC money, is the final nail in the coffin of American prestige in the Middle East. It shows that America is, indeed, Israel’s puppet, just as Osama bin Laden says, and as a majority of Muslims believe.
With hope and diplomacy dead, henceforth America and Israel have only tooth and claw. The vaunted Israeli army could not defeat a rag tag militia in southern Lebanon. The vaunted US military cannot defeat a rag tag, lightly armed insurgency drawn from a minority of the population in Iraq, insurgents, moreover, who are mainly engaged in civil war against the Shi’ite majority.
What will the US and its puppet master do? Both are too full of hubris and paranoia to admit their terrible mistakes. Israel and the US will either destroy from the air the civilian infrastructure of Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, and Iran so that civilized life becomes impossible for Muslims, or the US and Israel will use nuclear weapons to intimidate Muslims into acquiescence to Israel’s desires.
Muslim genocide in one form or another is the professed goal of the neoconservatives who have total control over the Bush administration. Neocon godfather Norman Podhoretz has called for World War IV (in neocon thinking WW III was the Cold War) to overthrow Islam in the Middle East, deracinate the Islamic religion and turn it into a formalized, secular ritual.
Rumsfeld’s neocon Pentagon has drafted new US war doctrine that permits pre-emptive nuclear attack on non-nuclear states.
Neocon David Horowitz says that by slaughtering Palestinian and Lebanese civilians, “Israel is doing the work of the rest of the civilized world,” thus equating war criminals with civilized men.
Neocon Larry Kudlow says that “Israel is doing the Lord’s work” by murdering Lebanese, a claim that should give pause to Israel’s Christian evangelical supporters. Where does the Lord Jesus say, “go forth and murder your neighbors so that you may steal their lands”?
The complicity of the American public in these heinous crimes will damn America for all time in history.
Dr. Roberts [send him mail] is Chairman of the Institute for Political Economy and Research Fellow at the Independent Institute. He is a former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, former contributing editor for National Review, and was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration.
Source: Information Clearing House
July 30th, 2006 at 11:23 am
Yet another massacre..
Yet again in Qana..
http://stopdestroyinglebanon.com/WarOnLebanon/nfblog/?page_id=16
July 30th, 2006 at 11:47 am
May our God help us all…as we continue to kill, and destroy our homelands. History shows us that humans can not live in peace with our neighbors. Dee
July 30th, 2006 at 2:17 pm
i am the first who write about the masacre of qana what we can said how to help you i am from algeria and except whatching during all the day tv what we can do. if you have any idea tell us
god with you lebanese people
July 30th, 2006 at 2:19 pm
well… well.. well… isn’t this a sight!!! you all talk about what each side is doing, attacks and more and yet you are creating a verbal attack yourselves!!! There is a saying “if you can’t beat em, join em”! so i guess i will join my fellow lebanese citizens and say power and strength to the lebanese people and hizbollah!
CNN right now as i speak says that israel is apologizing for the “tragic mistake” that just happened on QUANA and were trying to target rockets and of course they do not want to target civilians at all….BULL FUCKING SHIT.!!!
CNN also claims they can not show certain images since it is against standards.. little did i know that there are standards for the truth…
The president of the UNITED STATES whats his name again? right BUSH (who is also the main supporter of israel) claims that the priority is to keep CHILDREN safe, obviously thats what is happeneing of course when the so called ‘targets’ are mostly
children
.hmmm makes me think cause im a bit confused, does he mean the specific children in a baseball team in the states or the poor victims of israeli bombs ???
July 30th, 2006 at 2:21 pm
The US isn’t the only one supporting Israel financially, the European Union is Israel’s main trading partner. According to EU statistics 33% of Israel’s export went to - and 40% of it’s import came from the EU. Apparently respect for human rights and democratic principles etc is supposed to be an essential part of the EU-Israel Association Agreement. So when Israel ignores their responsiblity to this trading-agreement why does’nt the EU ignore to fulfill their part of the agreement?
A roof over my head and food for the day isn’t enough to make me sleep well at night, it makes me mad to think think of how the money I pay to my government, which they in turn use for our membership in the European Union, which the EU in turn use for importing goods from Israel and how they use it to pay for weapon and amunition that kills innocent people in their beds.
Don’t call all this killing defence, and even if it was defence it isn’t proportional in any way.
Javier Solana and the rest of you, you have more than one mean to affect the mind of Israel, don’t disappoint your citizens.
July 30th, 2006 at 2:35 pm
حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيل … حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيل… حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيل… حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيل…. حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيل… حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيل …
نعم المولى ونعم النصير اللهم يارب يا الله انصرهم على اعداء الدين
July 30th, 2006 at 3:24 pm
Shawn
Excellent and thank you.
I think one of the best things that we can do is deprive the North American entertainment industry of revenue. It is only a beginning and a small part but you would be amazed at the difference we can all make to cause dollar quotas in the entertainment business to take a dive.
keep looking at those pictures above and do these things in memory of the carnage, the loss of Life in Lebanon and Palestine.
STOP GOING TO THE MOVIES.
STOP BUYING AND RENTING VIDEOS, DVDs, AND VIDEO GAMES.
DON’T BUY BOOKS, MAGAZINES, NEWSPAPERS.
CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTIONS. Don’t subscribe.
I know that it will be hard but cut down as much as possible. Imagine the difference we make can make if all or most of us did this!
Hit them in their zionist pockets. Do it. Get as many people as you can, all over the world, and stop purchasing those things above. Go to the Library, watch TV, go on your computers. Do anything else but SPEND AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE.
It is only a start but we could really make a difference here. Can you imagine? Tell all your friends and family.
If the media wants to lie about us, causing further support of the Genocide in Lebanon, Gaza and West Bank, then let us hit them back.
July 30th, 2006 at 4:23 pm
It´s the end of world !!!
July 30th, 2006 at 4:26 pm
God take care of you all guys !
July 30th, 2006 at 4:37 pm
now much more people can see who is terorist and their supplier..
July 30th, 2006 at 6:12 pm
My thoughts are with the innocent. Hope this passes quickly with little more bloodshed.
July 30th, 2006 at 6:29 pm
I was there, I got out, my family and friends are still there. A country is being destroyed, set back 20 - 30 years, people of all religions and ages are blown up, and the world just watches. Shame!!!
July 30th, 2006 at 6:35 pm
No Israeli photos are getting posted on this site, because this site is for the mourning of innocent Lebanese children and those that are grieving their sensless deaths at the hand of the Israeli Terrorist.
And FYI I happened to log onto an Israeli site by accident when I was searching for the site fromisraeltolebanon.org and came accross a site called fromisrael.org …….. find the photos on there of the so called destruction of your terrorist state and then tell me that there is any comparison.
And for those of you who want to do something to help ……. you must pressure your governments to DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE CEASE FIRE FROM THIS TERRORIST STATE that knows nothing but death and destruction on its neighbours. The stolen and bloodstained state of Israel MUST to be disbanded and the New settlers dispersed into the wildernes from wence they came. Because they cannot live in peace with any one. It is a known fact that throughout history these quasi jews have wanted nothing but to conquer and control their neighbours. Ask the Germans who welcomed them into their homeland and allowed them to prosper, why they turned on them in WW2 and wanted to destroy them off the face of the earth. Do some historical research and find out WHY???? Hitler hated these quasi Jews so much. They control 90% of the world in finance and media and are not going to rest until they get the other 10%. And meanwhile you ignorant people who support them are happy to take their bloodied money and buy their bloodstained products and watch their bloodwashed media ……. and you choose to believe. Careful what dogs you may lay down with ……. Coz those dogs are full of fleas.
My HATE for Israel and its supporters is growing by the day and you can scream ANTISEMETIC all you want. Why is it that African Americans cant take someone to task for calling them a nigger …….. But yet Jews can ruin a persons life for standing up against them ……… HOW IS THAT FAIR.
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
And Dani has gone to hide under a rock
July 30th, 2006 at 6:47 pm
You know, when I was still a “good” little muslim boy, we all knew and approved of the “tactics” of those such as hezbolloh and hamas; hiding and attacking from civilian structures, using ambulances or school buses, firing from u.n. or media installations, etc., etc.
We knew, as I suspect most of you do as well, and we approved.
It was a win-win situation for us. Because, when we attacked or provoked the “enemy” they had two possible responses:
If they showed restraint and ignored the attacks and our provocations, then we got away with it free and clear and they were shown to be “cowards”.
But if they responded, then obviously there would be civilian casualties, the more the better, and our enemy would be shown to the world for the evil “entity” that it was.
We really didn’t care too much about the deaths and suffering of our fellows, they were “martyrs” to a just cause.
Boy, we thought we were so clever!
Yes! as bin-laden says, we worship death and they life, and that would be their unltimate downfall.
I do not want to be that “good little muslim boy” anymore.
I do not want my hatred (of jews or of anyone) to be greater than my love of human beings (the lebanese and everyone else).
But that is what I see so many like Karen here doing.
I am not trying here to change your opinion of Israel or of the “jews”. I fear in your mind you will always consider them evil (except, perhaps, the few that would deign to lick your ass). That this undeniable racism is somehow acceptable to so many who have been its victims in the past and (still in the present) I find unfathomable (for if you can “justify” one sort of racism, others will “justify” other forms with as much “validity”).
But, my god! What about the poor Lebanese?
Are you so enamoured of this hatred that you won’t do everything possible to stop it?
Karen, you suggest a boycott…brilliant idea; even if everyone participates, how long will this take to have any effect? How many long, long, agonizing years?
Yet almost none of you want to do what is the most simple, namely get Hezbollah to stop.
Israel has stated, time and time again (I saw Shimon Peres on BBC news reiterate this today) that if they do this, then Israel will follow suit and all bombing and military force will stop immediately.
But no, all of you want Israel to stop first, and to concede to any of a number of other things, before you will even consider exerting any pressure on hezbollah to stop their aggression (or their “resistance” or whatever).
My god! WHY, WHY, WHY?
Are you all so heartless???
Is it so much more important that you humiliate and get your revenge on those damned “jews”, than it is to stop the suffering of all these innocent people?
If this is your “way”, if this is your “reason” then you do not deserve to be called human; you do not deserve anything.
Please, please, wake up from this insanity.
July 30th, 2006 at 7:04 pm
Long live Lebanon, beautiful, beautiful Lebanon.
July 30th, 2006 at 7:10 pm
hafeez mohammed = lost and confused.
heartless you say, you idiot!… LOL…
go away please.
go and live in Israel maybe.
Long live Lebanon.
July 30th, 2006 at 7:11 pm
HafeezMuhammeredbiteezelisraliya
Why does Hizballah who are the only ones fighting for Lebanon (albiet not too successfully) have to be the first to disarm. Israel is the aggressor ….. Why should Israel not disarm. They keep telling us thay dont wnat to target civillians ……. and yet they continue to do it ….. time and time and time and time and time and time and time again. Why doesnt Israel who claims to be the justified nation be the bigger state and disarm. why do those fighting for the poor have to disarm. I was never on the side of Hizballah and still dont know too much about them …… BUT I DO KNOW THAT ISRAEL IS THE REAL TERRORIST and until such a time that the world stands united and condems them as such, this carnage will continue with or without Hizballah, with or with Hamas, with or without Al Quaeda, with or without the suicide bombers…… For all these Terrorist orgainization were created as a result of the Israeli aggression in stealing the rest of the land from under the palestinians.
Remove Israel from the region and we might have a chance at PEACE. ALthough they will find ways to stir up trouble …… as is there agenda always and with all nations …… Not just the Middle East. Do some research and see how many wars the Jews have been inciting around the world, if what secretly.
REMOVE THE STATE OF ISRAEL FROM THE MIDDLE EAST and restore the land to the Palestinians and the REAL Jews that belong there.
STOP HARPING AND CHECK YOUR HISTORY BOOKS
July 30th, 2006 at 7:18 pm
“My Lord,I seek refuge in U from the whispers of the devils.& I seek refuge in U, my Lord, lest they cum near me.” (23:97-98)Quran!
LONG live Labanon the part of heaven on earth!Hats off to bravo palestinians! I am ashamed of my paki govenment and our dear international politicians they are watching the absurd play!
HASBUNAL-LAHI WA NEAMAL WAKEEL!
ALLAH HAFIZ!
July 30th, 2006 at 7:28 pm
Canada,
You are sooo NOT ignorant and dumb. I refuse to write out your whole name. (smile)
dani,
I do not give a whoop - dee - doo RATS ASS about your “previous” life and all other lives which you have had or did not have or DO NOT HAVE RIGHT NOW…and in what context of which you meant. I was just toying with your itty bitty, teeny weeny, multi-fractured, skull encased pebble, which by the way is twice the size of you heart.
July 30th, 2006 at 7:51 pm
Why don’t all you people start a new blog entitled DESTROY ISRAEL, KILL ALL THE JEWS!?
None of you seem to be wanting to do much to stop this insane suffering.
Who cares if you think Israel is the aggressor.
If getting hezbollah to stop (even if you consider them “heroes”) would end all of this, then shouldn’t you be doing all you can to achieve this?
SHOULDN’T YOU???
I don’t think any you really care for all these poor people.
You only care about stoking your own hatred and violence.
And yes, rk47, i am “lost and confused” at how you can all be such complete morons.
Here, in a place I would have thought to find those of a more progressive nature, those who might be more willing to try to “understand” others, instead I have found a den of, not wolves or lions, but sheep or, rather, lemmings, perfectly content to traipse blindly over the cliffs of ignorance and self-destruction…
July 30th, 2006 at 7:55 pm
Ask any Jew what the ‘Balfour Declaration’ is and see what sought of answers you get.
Ask any Jew what the ‘Kol Nidre’ prayer is that they chant on their day of atonement … and then understand why they take NO RESPONSIBILITY for any action they deem justifiable (no matter what the cost to innocents)
And they have the audacity to call the muslims extreme religious fanatics
THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT
July 30th, 2006 at 7:55 pm
No Israeli photos are getting posted on this site, because this site is for the mourning of innocent Lebanese children and those that are grieving their sensless deaths at the hand of the Israeli Terrorist.
And FYI I happened to log onto an Israeli site by accident when I was searching for the site fromisraeltolebanon.org and came accross a site called fromisrael.org …….. find the photos on there of the so called destruction of your terrorist state and then tell me that there is any comparison.
And for those of you who want to do something to help ……. you must pressure your governments to DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE CEASE FIRE FROM THIS TERRORIST STATE that knows nothing but death and destruction on its neighbours. The stolen and bloodstained state of Israel MUST to be disbanded and the New settlers dispersed into the wildernes from wence they came. Because they cannot live in peace with any one. It is a known fact that throughout history these quasi jews have wanted nothing but to conquer and control their neighbours. Ask the Germans who welcomed them into their homeland and allowed them to prosper, why they turned on them in WW2 and wanted to destroy them off the face of the earth. Do some historical research and find out WHY???? Hitler hated these quasi Jews so much. They control 90% of the world in finance and media and are not going to rest until they get the other 10%. And meanwhile you ignorant people who support them are happy to take their bloodied money and buy their bloodstained products and watch their bloodwashed media ……. and you choose to believe. Careful what dogs you may lay down with ……. Coz those dogs are full of fleas.
My HATE for Israel and its supporters is growing by the day and you can scream ANTISEMETIC all you want. Why is it that African Americans cant take someone to task for calling them a nigger …….. But yet Jews can ruin a persons life for standing up against them ……… HOW IS THAT FAIR.
I AM ANTI SEMETIC AND I WILL NO LONGER BACK DOWN
July 30th, 2006 at 8:32 pm
To Amethyst,
Please don’t be such a rascist.It’s true that Isreal is going TOO FAR with the second Qana massacre (the one in the 1980’s was even worse), but that’s no excuse to sink to the level of the Nazis. And unlike myself, when I jokingly typed in “god hates the muslims” (note that I didn’t capitalize muslims), you aren’t joking AT ALL.
Remember, hate cannot extingiush hate; only love can do that.
July 30th, 2006 at 8:33 pm
To Amethyst,
Please don’t be such a rascist.It’s true that Isreal is going TOO FAR with the second Qana massacre (the one in the 1980’s was even worse), but that’s no excuse to sink to the level of the Nazis. And unlike myself, when I jokingly typed in “god hates the muslims” (note that I didn’t capitalize muslims), you aren’t joking AT ALL
Remember, hate cannot extingiush hate; only love can do that.
July 30th, 2006 at 8:56 pm
hafeez mohammed = lost and confused.
Progresive nature you say you idiot! LOL
You mean as progresive as the nature of 50 - 60 dead women and children you moron!!! Go away, just go away!!! You F*&^% idiot!!!!!
Long live Lebanon.
July 30th, 2006 at 8:57 pm
Progresive nature you say you idiot! LOL
You mean as progresive as the nature of 50 - 60 dead women and children you moron!!!
Go away, just go away!!! You F*&^% idiot!!!!!
Long live Lebanon.
July 30th, 2006 at 8:57 pm
Hafeez, Progresive nature you say you idiot! LOL
You mean as progresive as the nature of 50 - 60 dead women and children you moron!!!
Go away, just go away!!! You F*&^% idiot!!!!!
Long live Lebanon.
July 30th, 2006 at 8:59 pm
Hafeez, Progresive nature you say you idiot! LOL
You mean as progresive as the dead women and children you moron!!!
Go away, just go away!!! You F*&^% idiot!!!!!
Long live Lebanon.
July 30th, 2006 at 9:07 pm
Spirit of wat eva!!!
There is no room for jokes whilest women and children are dying you fool!!
Also If you had to choose, you would rather be a rascist than a murderer…
Long live Lebanon.
July 30th, 2006 at 10:23 pm
You know, mister ak47, you just so love battling straw dogs and think yourself “strong”,
you love to spout profanities and think yourself eloquent and clever.
What’s next, more verbal “head-butts”?
But unfortunately, mister kalishnikov (or is that mister katushya?) this is not a game.
People are dying and suffering and you act like a football hooligan.
I’m sure if the situation were reversed, with Israeli death and destruction 1/10th the magnitude of the “other” side, you wouldn’t be berating and lambasting hezbolloh or hamas or whomever. No, instead you would be celebrating, rejoicing. After all, those “jews” should be wiped off the face of the earth, right?
So you really don’t care about death and destruction and suffering, you just want your side to “win”.
I had thought that there would be more people here who didn’t want to play this perverted “game”, who thought that all violence, all suffering, all man-made and avoidable misery was wrong.
I had even thought that there might be some who believed in the “brotherhood” of all humanity, in the equality of all, without exception.
Someone even quoted the John Lennon song “Imagine”, which is, of course, about a world with no religion, no nations, no possessions.
But I don’t think many of you aspire to this.
Your primary principles seem to be hatred, revenge, bloodlust…
And yes, that kind of attitude is not at all “progressive”.
July 30th, 2006 at 10:59 pm
Here are some new definitions from the monsters, sons of snakes.
01) Invasion: it is not an invasion, they are not using all their force
02) Cleansing: they are sorry for innocent lives lost, but will kill as needed
03) Warning: people can leave north, but will be exterminated on the road
04) Right: US Veto, by default, they do not need anyone else
05) Permission to Massacre: UN
06) Cowards: Geneva Committee
07) Useless: Arab nations
In Short, Lebanon HA is fighting the war that the rest of the cowards in the Arabic world not dare. While they are dying, Oil vipers are rushing to produce more oil so that the world does not think ill of them. When are they going to get it that the west does not give a care about any Arabic country or person. And if you ever think that peace will be the same, you are mistaken. The Israeli’s goal is to bring their old ruling back even if it involves remving anyone from the fertile cresent area. Make no mistake, religion is not the issue. It is ethnic cleaning.
July 31st, 2006 at 12:09 am
Thank you Khannez.
HAFFEZ THE CLOWN,
FIRST GET IT RIGHT…IT’S RK7.
As I have said before the words are meant for the Isreali government&army who are commiting war crimes!! So Hafeez you clown, read before you comment!! And yes again..you are an idiot!!
you speak of brotherhood, humanity and equality. Is this what the air strikes are??!! You go and explain this to the families of the 500 or so that are dead!!
Well my PRINCIPLES ARE TO STOP DESTROYING LEBANON!!!!!!!!!!!!Again you are an idiot… Go and quote Johnn Lennon to the dead children!! See if you get a response!!! Idiot!!
I say again 1982 is the year the Israeli government and army and gave birth to Hezballah!!!!! when they murdered thousand in Beirut!! I was there I saw this happen!!! So please if I offend, well bad luck, cause this is the truth!!!
ALSO MY WORDS HARMLESS IN COMPARISON TO THE MURDER COMMITED WITH THE AIR RAIDS!!!!!
LONG LIVE LEBANON.
July 31st, 2006 at 12:43 am
Also, you say acting like a football holigan!? You clown..
I SAY “STOP DESTROYING LEBANON” (ps. go away from here hafeez)
Long live Lebanon.
July 31st, 2006 at 1:17 am
To Spirit of 9/11
I am not a racist by any shape form or means. I have never once said death to all the Israelis or anything of that nature.
All I want is for Israel (and their No:1 financiers and provider of WMD)to stop this onslaught on the innocent Lebanese people that is willingly and knowingly targeting. The US weaponry that is providing Israel with are WMD ……. you only have to look at what is left of Southern Lebanon and Gaza and the West Bank to know that. But Israel being a member that signed the Geneva convention. and then goes ahead to break every agreement it appears to make, not even taking into account the UN resolutions that it continues to defy ……… Is touted as a hero to democracy in the region. Why is it that when they decide to brand people asterrorist the world is willing to believe them without knowing the history. Yet when anyone dares suggest that Israel as a government are terrorist ……. Everyone cries self defence is justified to save their homes (which were in fact stolen from the Palestinians, the Lebanese and the Syrians) Why dont these people have the right to defend their stolen land and not to mention the continuous sanctions and blockades sonic boom scare tactics that they reign down on the people of that region on a daily basis. Why is that not Terrorism.
Th death and terrorism that Israel has brought to these areas is alright with the rest of the world. But a few Palestinians fighting for their land and dignity are labled terrorist.
Its one rul for them and another for the arabs that it wants to destroy …… because they dont recognise Israels right to exist. What if all the AMerican Indians wanted their land back, what if the aborigines wanted their land back. The Israelis who are causing this terrorism in the region have no prior claim to this land, yet theyhave been given the go ahead by the west to kill and suppress an innocent people for it. These quazi jews have as much right to the land they have stolen as the 6million chinese who have converted to islam, if they decided that because the religion they chose was born in the Middle East ……. So there for they should be given wherever the blazes Mecca is??
Double standards dont go down to well with the oppressed. And its so easy for you arm chair critics to sit there and call for Hezballah to disarm while Israel continues to pound the innocent Lebanese and then have the audacity tosay that Hezballah were hiding there. Every regretted bombing by Israel has after some quick talking in the Israeli parliment has become justified to them because Hezballah had been hiding ther.
Pulllllleeeeeeez ………….. WHen are you going to wake up to these UNFAIR DOUBLE STANDARDS.
July 31st, 2006 at 1:28 am
To Karen, RK7, Shawn and all you others who are trying to get the truth out ….. more power to you people.
Be aware not to sink to the level of the real Terrorist and call for them to die or be killed. We must focus our attention at naming and shaming them. I am a believer in kharma and these arrogant quasi jews will be exposed for the terrorist nation that they are. They have signed their own damnation with these acts of barbarism.
July 31st, 2006 at 1:41 am
THE day of isreali detriction is near,its recent activities have not stopped the freedom of speech instead millions of more muslims are ready to wipe out the state of israel from the map of the earth.INSHALAH
July 31st, 2006 at 2:29 am
What about the Israeli children. They have pictures just like those above. Hezibollah was created to protect Lebanon (according to one blogger) - according to everything published this was a result of Hezibollah crossing the border and kidnapping soldiers. What about them? What about there families? What about there children who have no father now?
As a father of 5 children it saddens me to see these pictures and I thank God that they (my children) do not have to endure this as the children of Lebanon or Israel have. That is my job in life - to protect my children and not do things that can lead to thier harm.
Having said that the next thing will upset most but…. FAIR IS FAIR. Hezibollah is supported by the people of Lebanon, Hezibollah crossed a border and a line in the sand, Lebanon now pays that price and crys when the check is cashed. Sad for the children - the supporters (the childrens parents, families, friends, and nieghbors) should pay for allowing Hezibollah to bring this down on them. Israel is protecting a border and has warned all several times. Blame the USA, blame the international community - but whatever you do - do not take blame for something of your own making.
July 31st, 2006 at 2:55 am
Is this been done by the people who are always complaining about the holocaust? If they really had a genocidal holocaust imposed on to them they wouldn’t do that!
July 31st, 2006 at 3:10 am
Israel give to Lebanons 6 year take responsible to “hisbullah” and what him doing all this time ?????????? NOTHING
so Who accused??????????
Israel , who give all what Livanones what in 2000 leave Livanons aray
OR Livanones who do nothing for save himself
???????????????????????????????????????????????
July 31st, 2006 at 3:46 am
Afghan Phantom
How dare you say that Lebanon brought this onto themselves????? Did you have the same sentiments when the US invaded your country and killed your innocent children and citizens, because a bunch of Suadies (according to the US) brought down the WTC. Why didnt YOU get rid of Osama Bin Laden hiding in your midst ……. why arent you handing him over to the US now?????
The same argument could be made of the Italian government for not controlling the Mafia that runs rampant in their country. The same can be said of any country who has a militant faction. Does that give someone a right to savagely kill and destroy a country over what is percieved to be an kidnapping?
Those were soldiers that were captured to be used in negotiations for the release of Lebanese and Palestinians who have been locked up in Israeli prisons for years. But that doesnt count because they are considered Terrorist ……….. Yet Israels response to the legitimate POW’s was to masacre and destroy the infrastructure and to break the spirit of the Lebanese. BUT IT WILL NOT BE BROKEN. And sooner or later Israel will be revealed to be the evil that sends this world to WAR. Mel Gibson (although Im not a fan) got it right in his drunkedness. ANd now he is going to face charges for being antisemetic.
How come the Jews can have someone arrested for saying they dont like them …….. yet every other bigotry statement aimed at others gets a slap on the wrist.
HOW MUCH LONGER DO THESE QUAZI JEWS EXPECT US TO KEEP PAYING FOR THE HOLOCAUST………………………… They can rape and murder and kill and destroy, but the minute ANYONE speaks up against them ….. They are labeled anti semetic.
I WANT AND PRAY FOR THIS SENSELESS KILLING TO STOP ………. AND I WISH NO HARM ON ANY ONE ‘QUAZI JEW’ or not.
I just would like everyone to see and name the New State of Israel as the Terrrorist Orgainisation it is….
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
July 31st, 2006 at 4:01 am
I really dont know what to say but just this that
Children are children, what have they done to any government or country. Cant you people feel the pain and trauma of these young souls who are being scared by both countries.
May Allah be the judge of who is right and who is wrong but stop butchring the youngones!
Just stop for hevens sake just stop!!!
July 31st, 2006 at 4:15 am
michael said,
on July 31st, 2006 at 3:10 am
Israel give to Lebanons 6 year take responsible to “hisbullah” and what him doing all this time ?????????? NOTHING
so Who accused??????????
Israel , who give all what Livanones what in 2000 leave Livanons aray
OR Livanones who do nothing for save himself
???????????????????????????????????????????????
Y r u worried we r nt frigtened at all wat so ever u people do is right thng y u r feeling dat we r balming u
now we will nt ask for ny justification from u or ny part owf world now we will tell u people hu we react got?????
we dont want cease fire as wat is left to cease fire u went to Lebnon to wipe out Hizbullah den prepare urself for sacrifises for greater cause of greater Isreal labeled with Peace why u left bint-e-Jabal like cowards today u left Binet-e-Jabel but we will take revenge from u people without giving ny justificastion as we dont play media wr like u from Holocast to dis say u played media war
i tell u we will take revenge in USA Europe Isreal from all those who backed u to ghiv u permit to kill us
July 31st, 2006 at 4:17 am
لبنان العروبة,القوة,المقاومة
July 31st, 2006 at 4:18 am
god bless the lebanese ppl against these hypocrits who keep reminding the world of the atrocities against jews in WW2.
at least the lebanese are standing their ground fighting back and not informing the isrealis about other lebanese to save their own skin like the jews did back then. this fact is one part they care not to mention.
now they have the might of the USA behind them and the true colours are standing out.
their aim is to occupy as much of lebenon as they can with no concern on how many innocent lives they take in the process.
i hope i am still around when the tide changes against them one day to see the end of middle east turmoil once and for all.
July 31st, 2006 at 4:23 am
قبل أيام قليلة من الموت المفاجئ لوزير الداخلية السوري اللواء غازي كنعان، كان ثمة رجل أعمال بريطاني من أصل فلسطيني يمضي اجازته في موناكو وصودف أيضاً أن رئيس الحكومة الاسرائيلية السابق بنيامين نتنياهو كان قد أم الامارة الفرنسية الفاخرة، للاستراحة من عناء معركته الخاسرة ضد خلفه ارييل شارون، داخل تجمع “ليكود” اللذين ينتميان اليه.
في مونت كارلو التقى الغريبان ـــ الغريمان في فندق واحد، “بيتش اوتيل” بعد حادثة طريفة ومعرفة عن بعد، تعارفا وجهاً لوجه وبدأت بينهما سلسلة أحاديث: الجدار الفاصل، الدولة الفلسطينية، القدس، المستوطنات، اللاجئون… وكل ملف ينتهي بخلاف لا حل له الى أن بادر الفلسطيني الأصل محاوره “بيبي”: يبدو أننا لن نتفق في أي مجال، ليجيبه نتنياهو بعد تأمل: بلى، ثمة نقطة نلتقي عندها ونتفق عليها، أن يبقى النظام في دمشق على استقراره.
حاول رجل الأعمال اخفاء تعجبه، لكن الصقر الاسرائيلي اليميني تابع شارحاً: “لقد تحدثنا بالأمر مع جماعة واشنطن منذ مدة قصيرة. وأوضحنا لهم أنهم يوم جاءوا وفتحوا “علبة باندورا” تلك في العراق، لم نحرك ساكناً، لأن المسألة لا تمسنا مباشرة والفوضى التي خلفوها هناك ليست محاذية لحدودنا. أما أن يعيدوا التجربة نفسها في دمشق، فليسمحوا لنا نحن أدرى بمصالحنا في هذه المنطقة كما بمقتضيات حياتنا وازدهارنا وأمننا فيها. كما أننا بحثنا في المسألة نفسها مع أصدقائنا الأتراك، وثمة تطابق كامل في وجهات النظر حيال ذلك بين تل أبيب وأنقرة…”.
وفيما كان رجل الأعمال الفلسطيني الأصل يسترجع في ذاكرته المواقف التركية والاسرائيلية في الأيام القليلة الماضية حول الوضع السوري، كان “بيبي” يختم قائلاً: “تأكد انه من الآن وحتى أجل زمني غير قصير، ما يتوافق عليه طرفا الكماشة الشرق أوسطية، اسرائيل وتركيا، هو ما سيكون سارياً في المنطقة وواقعاً على أرضها”.
هذا الكلام غير المفاجئ، كان يصل الى علم عدد من أقطاب الأكثرية النيابية في لبنان، في شكل متزامن مع خبر وفاة اللواء غازي كنعان. قبله كان هؤلاء قد أحسوا لماماً بالتركيز الأميركي على تغيير سلوكيات النظام السوري، لا تغييره هو ولا حتى أشخاصه. وبعده قرأوا بحذر أخباراً صحافية أوروبية عن عروض لصفقة وصيغ لتسوية. وبين كل تلك، باتت القراءة لما حصل في مكتب وزير الداخلية السوري أكثر وضوحاً، وبسبب كل تلك، بات فهم المواقف المختلفة للقوى السياسية اللبنانية، أكثر سهولة وقدرة على الادراك.
ففي دمشق، بدا الرحيل المفاجئ لوزير الداخلية مؤشراً اضافياً حول التقاط النظام أنفاسه مجدداً، أكثر منه دليلاً آخر على تأزيم مأزقه. فاللواء كنعان، صديق الرئيس الراحل رفيق الحريري في كل المراحل، والبعيد عن هرمية العمل الأمني السوري في لبنان في المرحلة الأخيرة، والنافذ الى الحسابات الغربية عبر موقعه كأحد المشرفين على ملف العلاقات السورية ـــ التركية، رحل آخذاً معه محذورين: أن يكون هو يعرف أشياء قديمة أو راهنة عن النظام الذي ينتمي اليه، وأن يكون النظام قد عرف “أفكاراً مستقبلية” كان كنعان قد حلم أو صمم الانتماء اليها. وجاء توقيت رحيله ليتوج تصاعدية الحبكة التراجيدية، بعد التسريبات المتكاثرة حول عودة بعض الحرارة الى خط واشنطن ـــ دمشق، وقبل ظهور الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد المحضر على شبكة “سي ان ان”، كما قبل “سقوط” الشاهد الآخر في باريس معتقلاً بتهمة تضليل التحقيق.
هكذا تبدو الصورة من بعيد للمراقب الحيادي، وكأن ثمة فيلماً سينمائياً عن عصابات منظمة، وكأن ثمة اتفاقاً قد أقر بين احداها وبين بعض عناصر الشرطة الفاسدين، ما سمح بتصفية الشهود المزعجين فجأة، وعشية بدء المحاكمة من دون أن ينفي ذلك احتمال السيناريو المقابل نظرياً: ان تكون الشرطة الفاسدة قد وقعت في الحفرة التي حفرتها لأخصامها “الشرفاء”، فانهارت تلفيقاتها فجأة وكلياً لحظة دخول هيئة المحلفين قاعة المحكمة…
أياً كان السيناريو الصحيح، فالثابت أن تردداته في بيروت تتبلور يوماً بعد يوم: بداية عودة الى اصطفافات ما قبل الخروج السوري، وتحضيرات لمواجهات قديمة بوسائل مستحدثة ومستجدة، نتيجة استحالة العودة الى المدفع. وفي هذا السياق لا تبدو مصادفة أن يستعيد النائب وليد جنبلاط نمط الاحتفال بعملية 13 تشرين الأول من موقع الهجوم السوري على قصر بعبدا، فيما يرفع العماد ميشال عون سقفه مجدداً ضد الحقبة السورية الماضية، شاملاً قيادات ومؤسسات تغطت سابقاً بمحرمات مفروضة فرضاَ، كما بأوهام عن أسطورة دور ورسالة.
وليست مصادفة أيضاً أن يعيد قياديو تنظيم “حزب الله” الربط بين سلاحهم الخارج عن الدولة وبين وجود أي تهديد اسرائيلي، فيما يضيء الدكتور سمير جعجع شمعة لشهداء عملية “انهاء التمرد” سابقاً، وذلك عشية عودته الى لبنان.
I need some replys please
July 31st, 2006 at 4:29 am
Donot hesitate, to reply
bilal_mourad@hotmail.com
July 31st, 2006 at 4:45 am
Sad, so sad, to see how this site has deteriorated into Jew bashing and anti-semitic comments - a prime example of how a militant, extremist few can hijack a legitimate cause for their own agendas.
Whilst I do not necessarily agree with all the comments on this board, I applaud its right to exist and create a forum for people to express an opinion and I thank the webmaster for permitting varying and opposite opinions to be allowed.
Having said this, I find it offensive that openly anti-semitic comments be tolerated, especially pronouncements made by some calling for the death of Jews. This is a sad indictment of some purporting to support Lebanon and the Palestinian cause but who are using this as an excuse to promote their own ideas - anti-semitism and the destruction of Israel.
Even sadder is the failure of many, including many on this board, to objectively look at what is going on - to look past the current tit for tat attacks we are witnessing daily, and consider what the outcome may be.
The issue is not me convincing you that Israel has the right to exist within safe, secure borders or for you to convince me that Israel is deliberately targetting innocent civilians - I have my opinion and you have yours.
The real issue is why it started now, who is behind it, and what is the agenda of those behind todays conflict.
That Hezbollah and Nasrullah have a relationship is beyond doubt as is the question of Iran supplying arms, rockets and missiles together to probably to a lesser extent with Syria.
So why start a war now? Simple, to divert world attention from Iran and its attempts to go nuclear. Sharing a common goal of openly declaring a desire to see Israel destroyed and Jews kicked off the land/killed, Iran would have known that it would not take much to provoke Israel and that Hezbollah would be ready and willing to carry out such a provocation “at the right time” when needed to deflect world attention from their nuclear progam.
Having set this in motion, the pragmatists in Iran would have known/realised that Israel is not going to disappear but that if cleverly manipulated, a group such as Hezbollah could emerge stronger out of such a conflict and within a short time become the “heroic saviour” of the Lebanese people.
It would be Iran’s hope that this popularity of Hezbollah would attract support from other non-Shi’ite sections of the community which would translate at the next elections in Lebanon with Hezbollah going from a minor party in the government to being the major force and holding control of the parliament.
This would fit in quite nicely with Iran’s other goal of wanting to see fundamentalism spreading throughout the Muslim world and with Hezbollah under Iran’s influence, such a transformation would not be all that difficult to achieve in Lebanon, should Hezbollah manage to gain a significant/controlling position in the Lebanese government.
And what would happen should this happen?
Aside from creating a state openly hostile to Israel, Lebanon as we know it today as a fun loving, open society would be turned into - well just have a look at what Iran is today, that will give you an idea.
There would be: no more blue jeans, forget about open mixed beaches and bikinis, closure of venues where poplular music is played and cafes where music by the Rolling Stones or U2 etc. is played in the background while patrons quietly sip a coffee and discuss the day’s events, only movies ordrained acceptable would be screened in cinemas and on TV - no more Hollywood movies, they would be a definite no, no.
And forget about tourism - the lifeblood of modern day Lebabon.
Sad that people can see everything but what is directly in front of them…
You don’t have to like me or agree with me, but the above is worth a thought.
July 31st, 2006 at 4:48 am
i wish the lebanese people knew how many around the world are supporting them.
its hard to tolerate bush, howard and co speaking on behalf of the western world when the majority of the western world condemns israel for this crime against humanity.
the audacity of the israeli spokespeople of all ranks insulting our intelligence by telling us they are targeting hesbollah.
after 9/11 they threw the word “terrorist” around virtually in every sentence when speaking about muslims hoping that the rest of the world would side with them in the middle east.
they are the masters of propaganda but as previous contributors to this forum have stated, it can only work so far before people around the world start to realise that the jews are the real terrorists in the middle east.
give the palestinians tanks, modern missiles, fighter jets and endless supplies of artilliary instead of basic missiles and rocks where they will then be called an army and not terrorists.
July 31st, 2006 at 5:06 am
Dear Dani,
your parot phrasing of your israeli leader referring to the lebanese as “fun loving , wonderful people” or words to that effect, does little to convince millions around the world that the isrealis think of their arab neigbours as anything but that.
merely another example of the propaganda the israelis are using to camoflage their real agenda in this atrocity.
what you really mean in that israel has a right to exist is that to achieve this, they must destroy their neighbours with the might of the USA to stand behind them.
it is purely part of every jew in the world openly portraying themselves as
“THE CHOSEN ONES”
July 31st, 2006 at 5:28 am
What is more shameful than the pictures are some of the comments by the visitors who still do not understand what Terrorism really is and who the real terrorists are.
Let me define who the terrorists are: Any one that does not share the values of the American Hypocritical version of the “Free World”… any one that does not accept the American way of life, Any one that poses threat to Israeli national security is a terrorist. This means that up to 90% of the world population is terrorist. It also means that in order to stop terrorism every conservative person with a faith including muslim must die or get arrested.
Hezbulla is a terrorist organization only according to US and Israeli governments. To the rest of the world, and to those who read and have common sense, Hezbulla is the resistance group that restored Southern Lebanon from Israeli occupation. They are a legitamate political party that has the support of most Lebanese and Islamic people world wide. The Islamic image such as beards and the stress of western media to create this image as an ugly image leads the unlearned unsophisticated people to parrot away and chatter back all that the American Media has formulated for them.
Israel and USA were both created in the same way: killing and massacuring millions of natives to establish a new world order. That is terrorism. Terrorism is NOT the groups that are fighting off the injustice of these systems like the Americans and Israeli’s want the world to believe. We live in an age were the agressor becomes the innocent victim, and the victim is the terrorist.
America and Israel are at war with Hezbulla because Hezbulla dares to say NO to Israeli massacres in Palestine and American Genocide in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The whole world knows that September 11 was staged by Marvin Bush using demolitions. The whole world knows the Pentagon was hit by a missile and not a plane… what for? To create a reason for accomplishing the New World Order and dismantling anyone opposed to their way of life.
First it was crushing the power of the Church in Europe, weakening the Pope and power of the Vatican, seperating religion from politics to destroy the power of the church under slogans of corruption. Next comes the power of Islam and its way of life… they only want the ways of the ILLUMINATI to stress the worldly ways and life… got no clue what I am talking about?
As i said… people, please know what you are talking about before you put your ignorant comments… it tends to mislead people when you are mislead…
July 31st, 2006 at 5:53 am
DANI
Why as a history major who is after the truth do you still refuse or rather ignore my questions ……. Come on Dani ….. Fess up, you dont want the real truth out there do you?? I’ll cut & paste em for you one more time ……..
1. Tell us what the Jewish role was (if your willing to admit it) in the extention of WW1 AFTER the Germans offered the British a negotiated peace on what Lawyers call a ’status quo anti’ basis in 1916
2. What? If anything can you tell us about the “Balfour Declaration”?
3. Can you tell us also what the ‘Kol Nidre’ prayer is? You must know the one I mean. The one that jews recite first and foremost 3 times on ‘The Day of Atonement’ after they enter the Synagogue while standing ……. The only prayer (I am told) that you stand for. I know this last question can be considered antisemetic (god you guys love that word), but if you have nothing to hide with the meaning of this prayer ….. Please also explain to us its purpose?
4. Are you descendant from the middle east jews or the european jews?????
Come on Dani, Im counting on you to give me your answers. If you ignore this again, it would mean you dont want to tell the TRUTH
July 31st, 2006 at 6:12 am
WE SHALL FIGHT IN THE BEACHES'’WE SHALL FIGHT IN THE HILLS'’
WE SHALL NEVER SURRENDER.
sir.Winston churchill?
no
HIZBULLAH
LONG LIVE HIZBULLAH
CHEER HIZBULLAH!
July 31st, 2006 at 6:14 am
WE SHALL FIGHT IN THE BEACHES'’WE SHALL FIGHT IN THE HILLS'’
WE SHALL NEVER SURRENDER.
sir.Winston churchill?
no
HIZBULLAH
LONG LIVE HIZBULLAH
CHEER HIZBULLAH!
~~
July 31st, 2006 at 7:04 am
Anti-semitic my ass, Gosh you people really love this word. hey Dani, sensitive boy there might be some anti-semitic comments here in a webpage however what u israelis are doing is being Anti-humanity as a whole and not by putting comments on a website but by comminting massacres everyday. so sensitive boy sorry if we did scratch your feelings, u can go now and cry awary from here because YES WE ARE ANTI-ISRAELIS
July 31st, 2006 at 7:06 am
Amethyst, my dear self-proclaimed, anti-semitic friend. Why don’t you answer these questions as I would like to hear your explanation as I am sure others would.
July 31st, 2006 at 7:13 am
Dani,
I don’t know why you think any of these “people” will hear anything you say.
And Amethyst, you prove my main point and damn yourself when you state, and this is an exact quote: “We must focus our attention at naming and shaming them”.
I thought, I really believed, that the “focus” was to “STOP DESTROYING LEBANON”.
But none of you (you, karen, ak47, all the rest) want to do anything that might be really effective to do this.
You keep on raving and ranting against Israel, engaging in an orgy of jew-bashing; I suppose you are all having a lot of fun, but has it done one iota of good? Just as hezbollah repeatedly states that its missile attacks are a “deterrent” to israel. Come again?
You people keep asking “Why should hezbollolah stop when Israel is the aggressor?”
SO THAT LEBANON WILL STOP BEING DESTROYED, YOU IDIOTS.
I thought that this was the central issue that we were so “concerned” with here.
And Amethyst, why do you keep trying to “provoke”, with your repetition of idiotic “questions” when you or karen or the rest never once respond the the questions which should be at the heart of the matter here?
And what, pray tell, is a quasi-jew?
Is it like the 99% of the islamic world who are quasi-muslims, who ignore all the good things in the quran, and focus only on anything else that would “justify” their hatred, their racism, their bloodlust, never once trying the way of “peace”?
And what about the hypocrisy so many of you exhibit when you claim hezbollah is a legitimate (non-terrorist) organization that defends and speaks for the people of Lebanon, and then complain when Israel responds to them (disproportionately or not) that the Lebanese people have nothing to do with all that.
Which one is is?
You cannot have it both ways.
You know, people, I really don’t find it useful to play a “blame game” here.
It is obvious that most of you have no real understanding or knowledge of history, of logic, of any sort of moral philosophy. I was obviously way too optimistic when I had hoped it would be otherwise in this forum.
And I also really don’t care when so many of you misuse words like terrorism or genocide or ethnic cleansing. Perhaps you should go back to school or invest in a good dictionary.
Personally, I don’t really care when some of you try to put words in my mouth, surmising that I support any killings, any destruction, any suffering of innocents.
I don’t really care to apply “labels” to anyone, it really amounts to only nonsense.
For basically I believe that everyone is, at their core, “good”; that what causes them to “misbehave” is most often conditioning brought upon by ideology, by culture, by manipulation, by malnutrition (a lot of you would definitely benefit by becoming vegetarian, it might curb your hostility a bit), and sometimes by a damaged or crippled biochemistry that may be exacerbated by any or all of the above.
We are, by nature, communal creatures, so we have the capacity for compassion, for love even, for recognizing the connectedness and equality of all living things.
This is what we should be focusing on, amethyst, for the lebanese and the israelis, and for ourselves; not on hatred, not on blame, not on revenge.
As we have seen, time and time and time again, this only leads to more destruction, more suffering.
Is that what you really want?
July 31st, 2006 at 7:23 am
Israel’s brutal attacks on civilians are a shameful act for the whole humanity. Israel has proved by her acts that she is the biggest terrorist of the world by the support of USA. Shame Shame Shame.
Shame for UNO.
UNO’s character is shameful. If it cannot implement its mission, it should be ended. You can see the smile on the face of USA’s foreign minister (very shameful for humanity) and guess that human life is of no importance to her. Anyone killing an innocent human being has no religion but a black spot on the face of religion. Killing of innocent children proves that cruel israelies are worst than the animals and they have no relationship with humanity.
You can feel the shameful character of so-called civilized nations in the current situation. Character of USA, UK is shameful especially because they are the important members of UNO and claim to be very civilized and claim to be followers of Yusuh.
Israil has left the Hitler behind and it is committing crimes against humanity without feeling any shame rather feeling pride for it. What can be called except Shame Shame Shame………..
July 31st, 2006 at 7:34 am
Ahmad said - “Anyone killing an innocent human being has no religion but a black spot on the face of religion. Killing of innocent children proves that cruel israelies are worst than the animals and they have no relationship with humanity.”
So what do you say about katyusha rockets being fired indiscriminately by Hezbollah and Hamas into Israel which hit in and around residential areas, hospitals, schools, kindergartens, train stations, etc. etc.
July 31st, 2006 at 7:36 am
For all you conspiracy theorists out there, I have one question.
You know, like those that state things like “The whole world knows that September 11 was staged by Marvin Bush using demolitions.”
As I said, I have one question.
Far be it for me to defend “Marvin” Bush, or america, or any of their ilk; but if they are really so nefarious, such evil and malevolent geniuses, then why didn’t they plant a few lousy wmds in Iraq?
They certainly had the motive (to save them from embarrassment, if nothing else), they had the opportunity (hundreds of thousands of their troops and “special” forces all over the country).
As for the “means”, would you tell me that they couldn’t spare a few lousy nukes, a vial or two of anthrax, a few litres or so of some nerve agent or other “weaponized” chemicals?
Considering that they’ve already spent some 400 billions on this “war”, you would think it would have been well worth their effort to do so.
I dare any one of you mush-brained idiots to answer this.
And that so many of you so readily believe such bullshit is clearly indicative of the worth of any other “analysis” you use to justify the rest of your hate-filled and racist (and dangerous) nonsense.
July 31st, 2006 at 7:40 am
i cant understand why these jews even cant tolerate comments on their master pieces i know their desire for peace n lov to live in harmony with their neighbours i hav some points if somone can answer
1)
wat is justification foe jews to occupy Arab lannds n call them Isreal.They were killed byJermens n killed in Europe then why a countery for them in Middle East????
2)
if Jews hav right to liv in Isreal as they used to liv there centuries b4 then why same right is denied for Muslims of Spain red Indians of USA native of Australia n many more n even to palestine people who were draged out n forced to leave by so called Peace lovers “CHOOSEN ONES”
3)
when n why it started?????
in 1948 when jews occupies Arab lands n named dem Isreal how a person can forget his home his land was Isreal a barren land with no population whn jews OCCUPIED IT?????
WHERE its all population went eg HAIFA?????
4)
if SHEEBA FARMS is syreian territory giv it to Syria n let Hizbullah n Syria fight why u innocnrent are indulging in it?????
5)
why HIZBULLAH is a terrorist organization becoz their country has no money to buy uniform for them like ur country?????
6)
Muslims will never loose dis battle as u hav done wt u can now it is ur turn to recieve??/
plz give me ansof abov i m very moderate PAkistani n thnk in differnt way
July 31st, 2006 at 9:26 am
Haffez,
I won’t ever hear Dani because he’s shooting from the hip and reciting propaganda lies. I respect what you’ve done and what you have gone through and I’m sure your a much happier person now. However the facts are the facts. Too many people believe what their Government and media tells them. Everyday I hear someone in America say “kill all those damn terrorist rag heads. Hell, lets just nuke em”. This country is so brainwashed and are sure they know who is good and who is evil. Why? Because like Dani, they believe everything they hear and don’t seek the out the truth, read the other sides point of view and EDUCATE THEMSELVES. I feel sorry for these people. I used to be like that, especially after 9/11. I wanted revenge and supported Bush, the war in Afghanistan and Iraq. It wasn’t until I saw all the pictures of the dead Iraqi children I began to question my own Government. Since then I have studied and crammed so much information in my head about the middle east that I know feel I should have born a Muslim. I read both sides and am agered listening to American media because it is so biased. I hear the same thing when I listen to Dani. He makes as much sense as the stupid Americans talking about nuking arabs. What threw me over edge yesterday was listening to Israel’s U.N. Ambassador Dan Gillerman trying to justify Israel’s actions in Qana. He is truley the DEVIL in disguse. If you watch closely, Israeli’s are always on t.v. trying to justify to the world what they are doing. So, Haffez this next article is for you.
July 31st, 2006 at 9:28 am
Israel’s Indiscriminate Onslaughts
By JONATHAN COOK
The expressions of shock that Lebanese civilians are taking the brunt of Israel’s onslaught — and the unwillingness in some quarters of the media to report the fact — reflects a poor understanding of Israel’s historical use of violence. Since its birth six decades ago, Israel has always been officially “going after the terrorists”, but its actions have invariably harmed civilians in an indiscriminate manner.
The roll call of dishonor is long indeed, but its highlights include: the massacre of some 200 civilians in Tantura, as well as large-scale massacres in at least a dozen other Palestinian villages, during the 1948 war that established Israel; Ariel Sharon’s attack on the village of Qibya in 1953 that killed 70 Palestinians; the Kfar Qassem massacre inside Israel when 49 farm workers were gunned down at an improvised army checkpoint; a massacre in the same year in the refugee camp of Khan Yunis, in Gaza, in which more than 250 civilians were killed; attacks on dozens of Palestinian, Egyptian and Syrian villages during the 1967 war; the killing of six unarmed Arab citizens of Israel in 1976; the massacre of hundreds of Palestinian civilians in the Lebanese refugee camps of Sabra and Chatilla in 1982; the unremitting use of lethal force by the army against unarmed Palestinians, often women and children, during the first intifada of 1987-93; the aerial bombardment of Qana in south Lebanon in 1996 that killed more than 100 civilians; and the endless “collateral damage” of Palestinian civilians during the second intifada, including a half-ton bomb that killed a husband and wide and their seven children a week ago.
The true reasons for these deaths are concealed from credulous observers by Israel’s use of language. When it says it is destroying the “infrastructure of terror”, Israel means it is crushing all Arab resistance to its territorial ambitions in the region. The “infrastructure” includes most Arab men, women and children because they continue to support — against Israel’s wishes — their peoples’ rights to self-determination without interference from the Israeli army.
In this sense, and others, there is very little difference between what Israel is doing in Gaza to overturn the democratic wishes of the Palestinian electorate and what it is doing in Lebanon to smash any hopes of a democratic future for its northern neighbor. In Gaza, it wants Hamas destroyed because Hamas is prepared to counter Israel’s unilateral policies with its own unilateral agenda; and in Lebanon, Israel wants Hizbullah obliterated because it is the only force capable, possibly, of preventing a repeat of Israel’s long invasion and occupation of the 1980s and 1990s.
By rounding up the Palestinian cabinet, Israel is not destroying terror, it is clipping the political wings of Hamas, those in its leadership who are quickly learning the arts of government and searching for a space in which they can negotiate with Israel. Through its rejectionist behavior, Israel is only confirming the doubts of those in the Hamas military wing who argue Israel always acts in bad faith.
Similarly in Lebanon, Israel is holding Hizbullah less to account with its attacks than the Lebanese people and their government, despite the latter’s transparently shaky grip on the country. Israel’s military strikes polarize opinion in Lebanon, weaken Fouad Siniora and his ministers, and threaten to push Lebanon over the brink into another civil war.
Israel is keen to talk about “changing the balance of power” in Gaza and Lebanon, implying that it is trying to strengthen the “democrats” against the “terrorists”. But this impression is entirely false. Israeli actions are destroying what little balance of power exists in Gaza and Lebanon so that the two areas become ungovernable.
In Gaza, Israel has been engineering a debilitating struggle for power between Fatah and Hamas, while in Lebanon whatever hollow shell of national unity has existed till now is in danger of cracking under the strain of the Israeli onslaught.
Superficially at least, this seems self-destructive behavior on Israel’s part, given that it has also been striving to detect the fingerprints of outside actors in Gaza and Lebanon.
In the case of Gaza, Israel points to Syria as a safe haven for the exiled Hamas leader Khaled Meshal, to Hizbullah and Iran as sponsors of Hamas “terror” and even to a new al-Qaeda presence. In the case of Lebanon, Israel additionally identifies the strong ties between Hizbullah and Damascus and Tehran.
So why would Israel want Lebanon and Gaza to be ravaged by factional fighting of the kind that might make them more vulnerable to this kind of unwelcome interference from outside?
A history lesson or two helps clarify Israel’s reasoning.
In the occupied Palestinian territories, Hamas was born during the upheavals of the first intifada and encouraged by Israel as a counterweight to the unifying secular Palestinian nationalism of Yasser Arafat.
In Lebanon, the Shiite militia Hizbullah was the inevitable byproduct of Israel’s occupation of the south and its establishment of a mostly Christian proxy militia, the South Lebanon Army, against the Muslim majority.
In both cases it is clear Israel hoped that, by Islamizing its opponents in these regional conflicts, it would delegitimize them in the eyes of Western allies and that it could cultivate sectarianism as a way to further weaken the social cohesiveness of its neighbors.
Recently Israel has encouraged the slide deeper into Islamic extremism through its policies of unilateralism and its refusal to negotiate.
The same set of policies is being continued now in the Palestinian territories and Lebanon: the shattering of these two societies will only deepen the trend toward radical Islam. Islamic movements not only offer the best hope of local resistance to Israel for these weakened societies but they also offer a parallel social infrastructure of health care and welfare services as state institutions collapse.
There is immediate advantage for Israel in this outcome. With secular society crushed and Islamic resistance movements filling the void, Israel will be able to reinforce the impression of many in the West that Israel is on the front line of global “war of terror” being waged by a single implacable enemy, Islam. Israel’s ability to persuade the world that this war is being waged against the whole “civilized” Judeo-Christian West will be made that bit easier.
As a result, Israel may be able to drag its paymaster, the United States, deeper into the mire of the Middle East as a junior partner rather than as an honest broker, giving Israel cover while it carves up yet more Palestinian land for annexation, puts further pressure on the Palestinians to leave their homeland, and destabilizes its regional enemies so that they are powerless to offer protest or resistance.
For some time President Bush has found himself in no position to criticize Israeli actions when Tel Aviv claims to be doing no more to the Palestinians than the US is doing to the Iraqis. The US is handcuffing itself to Israel’s even more extreme version of the “war on terror”, and the consequences will be dire not just for the Palestinians or the region, but for all of us.
Jonathan Cook is a writer and journalist based in Nazareth, Israel. His book, “Blood and Religion: The Unmasking of the Jewish and Democratic State” is published by Pluto Press.
July 31st, 2006 at 9:33 am
Lastly, to the Administrator. Thank you for allowing us to use your page to not only give our thoughts and prayers to the people of Lebanon but to also you it as a forum of truth and education for those who refuse to believe.
July 31st, 2006 at 10:10 am
you are the life fence of hizbollah . stop it . stop hizbola.and you will never see war.
July 31st, 2006 at 10:18 am
IF THERE IS ONE THING I HAVE NEVER FORGOTTEN IT WAS MY TRIP TO SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH. I WAS VISITING A FRIEND FOR TWO WEEKS. IT WAS THE SUMMER OF 82. NO RK7 I CERTAINLY WAS NOT IN LEBANON WHEN THE MASSACRES OCCURRED. I WAS IN UTAH. MY FRIEND ANGELA AND I WERE COMPELLED TO WATCH THE NEWS BECAUSE ON EVERY CHANNEL THEY SHOWED THE VICTIMS BODIES AND SHOWED THE VICTIMS FAMILIES. IT WAS HEART-WRENCHING DEVASTATION. IT WAS THE MURDER AND RAPE OF THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN. WHAT REALLY SICKENED US WAS LATER WE FIND OUT THAT THE ISRAELI ARMY-GOVERNMENT CREATED THIS. IT WAS THEIR PLAN.
NOW I HEAR ABOUT THE CHILDREN OF QANA. MORE ARE DYING TODAY FROM STARVATION. THESE CHILDREN ARE HUNGRY AND THIRSTY AND LIVING IN GREAT TERROR.
THEY ARE FEARING FOR THEIR LIVES AND THEIR PARENTS.
THEY ARE HIDING AND RUNNING AWAY AND GETTING BOMBED ANYWAY.
MAY THEIR BLOOD, TEARS, AND SUFFERING HAUNT ISRAEL AND PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT ISRAEL FOR THE REST OF THEIR PATHETIC LIVES
YES RK7, SOME OF US IN THE USA AND CANADA DO KNOW ABOUT THESE MASSACRES DONE BY ISRAEL. NOT ALL OF US ARE BLIND.
July 31st, 2006 at 10:29 am
Lebanon is not guilty.
Shame on Israel.
A human can’t kill innocent children so easy!!!!
WHY?????
I m not Lebanese. I m european but I lived in Lebanon. It’s my second country. Nothing can’t justify this atrocity!!!!
Even animals can’t do it.
All these children!!!!What did they do????
I m sad, so sad.
Lebanon, I don’t forget you. You are in my heart.
July 31st, 2006 at 11:22 am
What was the reason for bombing all those people in Qana? Over 60 women, children are dead. They were sleeping for GODSAKES. My fist went into my mouth as I saw the dead bodies in the rubble. I saw the feet of a dead child. and i saw so much more. Not only that they still havent found all the bodies. My fist went into my mouth when i saw the pictures of all the young children in the pictures above. There was teeth marks on my knuckles.
how many excuses? how many reasons?
Israel says they have been warning these people. They send these stupid leaflets. but everytime they want to run away for shelter or to leave Lebanon they get killed anyway. These people are hiding in shelters, schools, homes. They are driving away trying to get to safety. They have no weapons. They were warned but they are getting killed anyway.
Israel’s excuses are always hezbolla this hezbolla that
hezbolla on the roads where the people are running away
hezbolla in qana where children were sleeping
hezbolla at the UN compound
hezbolla in the restaurants
hezbolla in the offices
hezbolla in the schools
hezbolla is gllued and pasted to every woman and child.
what a bunch of sick twisted shit. what a bunch of cowards to kill those people who are defenceless.
i am going to take a page out of Diana’s book:
To the government of Israel and to the Israel army, may all the days of your coward lives be haunted by the BLOOD TEARS AND TERROR of all the children and people who have been murdered by you.
oh and by the way….DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM STARBUCKS. ALL THEIR PROFITS ARE GOING TO MORE WEAPONS FOR ISRAEL!!!!!!!
July 31st, 2006 at 11:57 am
We should not be afraid of claiming the moral high ground from the US-Israeli empire. Like Palestinian land, the moral high ground can be stolen, but nothing will change the fact that it is rightfully ours and we can struggle to reclaim it. We are the civilised and they are the barbarians. We are the ones who care about peace and they are the one who have lost touch with humanity.
In Palestine, the US-Israeli empire is the land-thief which claims that peace will come when people stop asking for what has been stolen from them. It is the US-Israeli tyrant which claims that animosity ends when the oppressed simply acquiesce to their oppression and abandon their desire to live in dignity.
And it is the anti-Arab racists who think that such an impossible, undignified and dehumanising pseudo-peace is “reasonable”, and those Arabs who reject it are “extremists”.
GHASSAN HAGE
July 31st, 2006 at 11:58 am
If We ToLerate This UnsatisfiabLe Hunger Then Our ChiLdren Are the Next !
Rest In Heaven You aLL LittLe Lebanese AngeLs…
July 31st, 2006 at 2:11 pm
É lastimável que inocentes como crianças, mulheres e idosos, paguem com a vida o alto preço da guerra. A maior tristeza, é que todos ficamos calados e impotentes por não poder fazer nada ao ver as cenas na televisão. Enquanto isso, as potencias mundiais como os EUA, Inglaterra e outros, assistem de camarote as atrocidades e não fazem absolutamente nada por serem “parceiros de Israel “.
Nesse mundo o dinheiro manda em tudo.
O mundo irá acabar em guerras. Os grandões vão dominar o planeta com seu poderio bélico. Em contrapartida a natureza dá o troco a eles, através de tempestades, furacões, tufões, tornados, secas, altas temperaturas, etc, isso pelo fato da grande poluição que produzem para alcançar a escalada econômica de “quem cresce mais ao ano”.
Bush = TERRORISTA.
ISRAEL = COVARDES
MUNDO TODO = OMISSOS.
BRAZIL = CORRUPÇÃO
Até quando ?
Edgard - Brazil
July 31st, 2006 at 2:20 pm
Não sei nem o que dizer com tamanha atrocidade. Aonde chegaremos meu Deus com tamanha ignorância. Me sinto impotente, me sinto um nada, me sinto vazia…sinto vergonha de pensar…já que os pensamentos de alguns leva à isso. Oh meu Deus……..por favor paremmmmmmmm!!!!!!! Olhem as fotos…são vidas, vidas, vidas…..crianças……pessoas……..Parem por favor, parem, paremmmmmmm, não aguento mais ver isso, sentir essa dor e não poder fazer nada. Vcs que podem…por favor parem, tenham piedade…..são pessoas inocentes que só querem viver……..Chega de crueldade…….
July 31st, 2006 at 3:28 pm
i have concluded that dandi and half tease are one in the same. well they are either twins or some hybrid form of a mutated thug, or they are just one person.
LEBANON GOD BLESS YOU…you are on the side of the righteous.
To the World: don’t let izreel take Lebanon away from us.
July 31st, 2006 at 3:35 pm
i have concluded that dandi and half tease are one in the same. well they are either twins or some hybrid form of a mutated thug, or they are just one person.
LEBANON GOD BLESS YOU…you are on the side of the righteous. You did nothing to deserve these massacres.
To the World: don’t let izreel take Lebanon away from us.
July 31st, 2006 at 5:08 pm
1st of all, shame on all the arabs for being so weak infront of the most stupid president on the face of this earth(George W. Bush)… 2nd, let me ask those people who say that “it’s Hezballah who’s to blame for this” : Are you people blind??When israel would come & attack the Ne3me every couple of days with their bombs that was okay?? For the israelies to trespass on our grounds & throw bombs on innocent people & their houses, it’s okay?? But when the Hezeb goes & takes 2 little shitty soldiers from israel to free the lebanese people who are inprisoned in israel then you so called “arabs” say it’s not the right time or it’s Hezballah who’s the terrorist…People wake up & see the shit that’s going on around you,this whole thing was planned for lebanon & not only was the Shi3a going to get it but all of lebanon..Shame on all of you who stand beside america & israel.Mrs. Rice i hope you never ever see a second of happiness in your life.
Remember this: ” God never forget’s any thing” ,so when you all die God will judge you for your cruelty.
Al Nasr Li Hezballah
Allah ytawel Bi3omer il Sayed Hassan NasrAllah w ye7mi ya rab
Long Live Hezballah
Long Live Al Sayed Hassan NasrAllah
July 31st, 2006 at 5:09 pm
Today Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert “apologized” for the deaths of civilians in Qana. I don’t know which is worse, killing the innocent without remorse, or killing the innocent diplomatically. I find the latter to be more perverse, manipulating and deceptive. After Olmert’s apology he said, “We will keeep fighting until we achieve the targets and goals we set ourselves and until we bring quiet, peace and calm to our land.”
I would like to respond to Mr. Olmert, first of all, IT IS NOT YOUR LAND, and second, you will never achieve quiet, peace and calm when your hands are full of innocent blood. Mr. Olmert, your fear has driven you to unspeakable acts. Please do not apologize for your civilian killings while you intend on commiting more. What part of ” NEVER AGAIN” do you fail understand, as you now slaughter indiscriminately those you hate.
July 31st, 2006 at 5:19 pm
.THANK YOU TO The Truth About The Jews
Great Stuff! I suggest everyone with an open mind who wants to learn about Palestine and the “so called jews” should google George H Freedman. READ IT! IT’S INSIGHTFUL.
Now we know the deeper reasons for the ghastly pictures above. The two boys burnt and burning, the injured children in the hospitals, the dead children on the roads and in the rubble, the young boy in the in his bombed family car.
The results of a power hungry, greedy government called Lucifer - I mean isreal. Oh? Pardon me…where’s the difference?
July 31st, 2006 at 6:32 pm
WHOOPS, SORRY
That is BENJAMIN H FREEDMAN. Punch his name in your computers.
Also:
DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM STARBUCKS. ALL THEIR PROFITS ARE GOING TO isreal FOR DEFENSE WEAPONS - SICK.
I’m going to say it too:
May the BLOOD, TEARS, PAIN, AND SUFFERING LEBANON LIVING AND DEAD HAUNT isreal and its supporters FOR ALL OF THE DAYS OF THEIR MISERABLE HATEFUL LIVES.
July 31st, 2006 at 6:34 pm
WHOOPS, SORRY
That is BENJAMIN H FREEDMAN. Punch his name in your computers.
Also:
DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM STARBUCKS. ALL THEIR PROFITS ARE GOING TO isreal FOR DEFENSE WEAPONS - SICK.
I’m going to say it too:
May the BLOOD, TEARS, PAIN, AND SUFFERING OF LEBANON LIVING AND DEAD HAUNT isreal and its supporters FOR ALL OF THE DAYS OF THEIR MISERABLE HATEFUL LIVES.
July 31st, 2006 at 6:38 pm
I GAVE YOU THE WRONG NAME:
THE REAL NAME IS BENJAMIN H. FREEDMAN.
VERY GOOD AND TRUE READING. AMETHYST KNOWS WHAT SHE IS TALKING ABOUT.
July 31st, 2006 at 7:32 pm
DEARS
First, I wonder that still some body here and there talking about the Israeli as a human being. Believe me they are not. Nobody know the way they are treating Palestinians since they came from no where to Palestine. They took every thing, I remember all the refugees who came from Haifa, Jafa, Nazareth… to the other side of Palestine which they called after” the west bank”. So those Palestinians left because of the Israeli terror, they were killing every body, raping, steeling..doing every fascist work to confess people not to come back again.
In 1967 I was in the university out side my country when they did the second war, and took the rest of Palestine. The people were armless, because were we live, it was forbidden to bye, carry or know any thing about weapons. So they took the rest after their trying to let people out , but most of them learned about 1948, and didn’t leave. But they didn’t allow the people who were outside to go back.. and that what happened to me. So I lived out side my country the hole years. Every single brother of me want to go to the university out side Palestine after a while they refused to let him go back again. So dears now you find 5 millions of Palestinians out side Palestine, and in Palestine around 4 millions: 3 in what they call west bank and Gaza, and one in the other part which they call that stupid filthy name which we’ll never accept it, it looks like cancer, if you accept it it’ll eat all of your body, that’s the name of Israel. Those sons of pigs, although pigs who are better than them. Can any one of you tell me how it come that my house; where I’m living with my father…where his father, grand father and grand grand father, go back to more than thousand years were living in, then a stupid one or family came from Germany, usa or any other country came and have it!!. What low is that!! I heard so many people where talking that they can’t understand why the Palestinians who are living out side from so many years still saying that they are Palestinians!? Although the European for example who left to the usa they called their selves American? That is a good question, but why those stupid and double faces didn’t ask the same question to those who came from here and there And took my house after they live in those countries thousands of years!! If they dare to ask it then that will solve the whole Palestinian problem.
Sorry I talk too much.. but my dears after I saw number of you still talking about the Israelis as a human being. Don’t look to Hezbollah or to any other one to judge him.. the matter is this: let those pigs go out side our houses, land, factories, water, sky, trees, stones, animals and dust.. let them leave what owned by Palestinians to the Palestinians, let them go back to where they lived with their families for thousands of years. Let them go back to their native houses, and I promise you we’ll never hate or talk about them. Let them go back and leave the country to the Palestinian people: Jews, Christians, doroze, baha’es band Moslems. Believe me my dears it’s a vary bad game. It’s the game of those who have the money, starting with those Americans who got their puppet who they cold bush, and his bobby Blair, and you can put the names as you know from their doings in Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, past soviet union, Yugoslavia , tchecoslovacia, Chechnya, south Africa, most of east Europe, most of Latin America, Iran, Syria and Palestine. Look to the long sheet of names you know, and think about what they are doing here and their and if your iq is more than 90 it’ll never be a complicated matter. They are not coming to help.. they came to take every thing and then they will give you some dollars here and there which they called HELPING PEOPLE. Let them leave us, we’ll live in piece. Who he want one or more of them.. pls help your self, take them all!!. Who he thinks good about them just remember their history. Its written in their holly book. They came from Egypt looking for their paradise, they lived here and there for 40 years, they made their families. then they saw it so they killed their wives and children who are not from their root, prophet mosses” may god bless him” who were with them died from anger and from what he saw of them!
So dears its not matter of Hezbollah or any other Arabs in the area, who he want to do any thing to help his country or his brothers. Did you know what is going on in Palestine? For years they don’t know when they leave their house, if they will come back or not. Just, tell me one family who they have no body killed by thse stupid Israelis.
So, dears, may God bless Nasralla and all his brave men!
Please God Bless the people and the land of Lebanon!
Please God bless every one on this planet who didn’t accept the media as it is, but they search for the truth, tell they find it.
Please God, help us to be on the right side,
God bless all the human beings, because I know the Israelis are not.
Viva all free countries,
Viva Lebanon,
Viva Palestine.
Dr. Zuhair
July 31st, 2006 at 7:47 pm
Hafeezbeteezelislraliya
I hope you like the new name Ive given you, coz you are so far up there all you can see is the SH*T thats feed to you.
Why is it I am damning myslef by saying we have to name and shame these TRUE TERORIST. You dont hear me calling for bloodshed ….. but simply to expose the hypocrasy of the quasi jews and their puppet the US government.
I’ll be more than happy to explain to you what a quasi Jew is (I admit I made that term up) …… A quasi Jew are those that have no claim whatsoever to this so called ‘Promised Land’. The same Jews that went to the English government in 1916 with a deal to end all deals. The English had been abandoned by their allies because the Germans had pulvarised them and they were left to face the Germans alone. The German Jews (the same ones that Germany had given shelter to and supported and were allowed to build themselves very successfull business, finance and media) went to the English and told them not to take up the the PEACE agreement set out by the Germans (one that they were on the verge of accepting), because they can help them beat the Germans by bringing in the US to fight on their side. So the influential Jews in the US put pressure on their government to join this war that they had no quarrel in. It worked ….. the English accepted the Jews offer and the US joined the war and eventually they beat Germany. But as history has already told us Jews dont do anything for FREE. WHAT PRICE did the quasi jews want??? ……. the Deliverance of Palestine to them (these Jews whose ancestors had never set foot in “The Promised Land” and have no claim to it. Because the English had no right to promise them this land they drew up a complicated vaery specially worded document call ‘The Balfour Declaration’ which promised the land of PALESTINE to the quasi jews. Because the English couldnt just hand over Palestine as these quasi jews wanted they had to wait until the end of WW2 to fulfill this promise, which they didnt hesitate to do. Prior to the quasi jews theft of this land …. all jews and arabs in the region were living in peace with each other. YES the palestinians did then attack these jews ……. but why is it that they didmnt have the right to do this, they were stealing their land under the pretence of previous ownership. It wasnt until these jews were inflicted on the Palestinians that the real conflicts began in that region. Check you history books …….. the ones not written by the jews. The difference between the quasi jews as opposed to quasi muslims, is that these new converts to Islam have made no claim on Arab land that they have no right to. Imagine if the new breed of Islamist suddenly decided that they wanted to go back to the land were Mohammad was born. Would the world stand back and say that they have a right to exist in these lands. I DONT THINK SO. So why do these jews have the right to claim Palestine as their own ………….. Answer that one for me Hefeezebeteezelisrailiya??????
Which brings me to my next question about ‘Kol Nidre’ a prayer that the jews recite on their day of attonement (as if anything can attone their sins. The prayer in my own words goes something like this …… “For the next 12months, no promise I make is a promise, no oath I make is an oath, no pledge I make is a pledge” therefore in their eyes exhonerating them from any evil that they commit and any promises they make for peace or anything that they dont wish to take responsibility for. Like the statement that they will cease all air raids for 48hours to allow aid to get to those that need it and then what did they do …….. Did they keep their word? Lordy Lordy Lordy thay did not, they continued to drop bombs on Lebanon and then increased their land attacks. That how much the jews mean what they say.
I cannot answer the question about Dani being a real jew or a quasi jew, coz only she/he can answer that one. But you do get my drift in asking that question.
Dani asked:
Still waiting for an answer - what is so hard to understand - if Hezbollah is so interested in humanity and helping those who are suffering, why don’t thry agree to stop firing rockets into Israel for 72 hours so that aid can reach those that need it and the innocent civilians in the south can be evacuated safely. My answer to that would be is that if Israel were truely a rightous state as opposed to the immoral Hezballah, and considering that they are the ones destroying more innocents in this carnage, WHY CANT THEY TAKE THE HIGH ROAD and COMMIT to a ceasefire. Because if you to have us believe that Israel has got the higher moral ground in this, they should show the world the magnanomous nature and call a REAL CEASEFIRE. If you have any other questions you’d ike me to respond to……. please feel free to ask
Hafeez
Your OWN words below will come back to haunt you …………… Because you are talking about yourself and those that believe as you do.
Hafeez has said:
And that so many of you so readily believe such bullshit is clearly indicative of the worth of any other “analysis” you use to justify the rest of your hate-filled and racist (and dangerous) nonsense.
July 31st, 2006 at 8:02 pm
Oh and By the By …….. Israel and its puppet nation America (for it is the Jews that control that country) have repeatedly tried to implicate Iran and Syria in this attack on Lebanon. Of that I have no knowledge or facts. But if the US is allowed to provide sophisticated weaponry to the Terrorist State of Israel, then why is it that Hezballah cannot source its weapons and training from these countries. Oh, thats right they are all Terrorist ………… and Israel and the US are here to save us with their NEW WORLD ORDER.
Close your eyes and ears to the TRUTH and you are continually fed BS, but you’ve grown so accustomed to the taste, that it no longer bothers you. Bon appetite
July 31st, 2006 at 8:20 pm
ANother site you might find interesting is MERIP….. Middle East Research and Information Project. Just google it…………………..
July 31st, 2006 at 8:35 pm
Shawn,
First off, I appreciate the calmer tone that you take in your most recent posts.
It is only thus that we can engage in true discourse, one which might further the understanding of us all, and, most especially, help us all realize that almost everyone is not “evil”, not the “jews”, not the “arabs”, not the iranians or the americans or even the french (that was a joke).
I certainly encourage you in your endeavours and in the obvious growth and maturing as a human being that you have gone through. As I know all too well, it is exremely difficult to extract onesself from the continuous and unrelenting conditioning (one might even call it brainwashing) with which we are assaulted.
Something I have learned from personal experience and much observation is that there is a tendency, when one has overcome such conditioning, to overcompensate and embrace the seeming opposite.
This is the old “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” fallacy, and a very common pitfall.
For instance, if the mafia is your enemy, does this make a “rebellious” faction therefrom your “friend” and ally?
This would be a terrible mistake.
In exactly the same way, the U.S (under Reagan) used to be allies with Iraq, under Sadam Hussein, to fight Iran.
In this case the U.S. was like the godfather, and sadam like one of its capos.
The U.S. even supplied Iraq with the chemical wmds that sadam used in his horrendous massacres of the kurds.
The U.S. never complained about this then; it was not with a “blind eye” but rather “eyes wide open” that this occurred.
Later, of course, sadam got greedy, and rebelled when the u.s. wouldn’t accede fully to his desires.
So Iraq, under Sadam, became an opponent of the U.S.
Does that mean we should embrace him? Does that mean that all his crimes, past and present, should be excused and forgiven?
Only a fool would rightly think so.
I would stress that this does not justify the actions of the u.s. in iraq; you do not fight evil with more evil.
One might be tempted to say “a pox on both your houses” and hope they would kill each other off; unfortunately most of those being killed would be innocents, or fools who had been duped and brainwashed, as you and I once were.
Trust me Shawn, you do not want to become a muslim.
I have been all over the islamic world and the internal situation there is extremely terrible.
As I have said before, it is not my place to say that this is the fault of the religion, but the oppressive and inequitable culture associated with it is, I believe, inextricably fused with it, so that I see no real hope of any progressive reform, as some few do.
Lest you think I express some form of racism here, let me state that I most emphatically do not.
I am not anti-arab or anti-persian, or anti-whatever. Call me anti-islam, if you like, or even anti-religion, but I insist that I have every right to reject the religious culture that I know from the inside out.
That is my advice to you Shawn; the islamic world may be the “enemy” of the imperialist, christian west, but it is, most assuredly, just as “bad” on this “side”.
Again, as I said before, in your search for “truth” you don’t balance one lie with another, you don’t balance Fox news and George Bush with al-Jazeera and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Hugo Chavez, whom I admire a great deal (I thought it wonderfully funny when he provided cheap oil to the poor in the u.s., after the fiasco in new orleans) is making this same mistake if he thinks he really has a comrade in ahmadinejad.
Do you get what I am driving at, Shawn?
Be always, always, critical in your thinking.
This is where we should all be “ruthless”.
Don’t be “seduced” by those perspectives that might support any prior (or, perhaps, new) “prejudice” or view, we must be just as critical of these as we are of those that oppose our positions.
That is what I have been railing against here, albeit futiley.
So many people here are seduced by events that they seem very pleased appear to support their views.
In succumbing to this they forget what is really at stake here, namely the death and suffering of so many.
If we must swallow our pride just a bit to stop this death, to alleviate this suffering, then shouldn’t we exert all our power, all our will to do this?.
But time and time again, people here shout “Why should we do this when it is Israel’s fault”?
Well, fuck! (sorry for the profanity, but I believe it proper, here), I don’t care who you blame. Blame Israel, blame the U.S., blame the U.N. or maybe even hezbollah (just a teensy, weensy, bit).
But do all that later, please.
Right now, do whatever you must to get this situation to end.
Peace is alway “honorable”, the acquience to violence never so.
I pray that humanity will someday learn this.
July 31st, 2006 at 9:32 pm
Shawn, thank you also for presenting your article. It is a little bit more temperate and a little bit more reasoned that most of the B.S. presented here (which, of course, does a great disservice to any viewpoint they may wish to justify).
The arguments therein (and alleged facts) are also old, old news.
I could of course present articles which presented somewhat contrary perspectives, somewhat contrary “facts”. And it would, of course, be my opinion that these articles were better reasoned, their facts more assured.
I would rather just briefly remark on a couple of things which seem at the heart of the article and with your understanding of it.
First off, presenting possible “motives” is not proof of guilt.
Say a bank was robbed in your neighborhood, Shawn. If I was the local DA, I could arrest you and “prove” the case by showing that you wanted the money to send to help the Lebanese people who were in such dire need.
You see where this leads, Shawn? The possibility of something is not its “truth”.
This is where I see that argument a bit “far-fetched”.
This analysis actually works much better in a much broader context, name the culpability of the U.S. and other western countries (Britain, France, and so forth) in the rise to power of Islamic fundamentalists and “terror” groups throughout the middle east and elsewhere. But the motivation here was not so Machievellian, nothing so far-sighted, just unencumbered avarice and greed.
Basically, the common pattern was like this:
Support dictatorships (brutal or otherwise) to allow western exploitation of oil or any other resourses.
Aid and assist in the suppression of any secular opposition to these regimes in order to allow this beneficial situation to continue.
So what was left?
Any remaining oppossition or resistance to these regimes was, almost of necessity, religious in nature.
You know the rest of the story.
Similarly, to oppose, say the “evil empire” of the Soviet Union, aid and abet, with money and arms and training, those, like the taliban, with bin-laden and his cronies.
You know the rest of the story here as well.
It is a little bit (actually, a great deal) silly to think the the U.S. and other western “powers” were aware of what would ensue. No, they were just too ignorant, too stupid, or just too short-sighted to see or even care where all their greed and avarice would lead.
Second, and as I hope you are learning, facts are never “just facts”. While what we experience is always “true”, this is always contained within a context that is complicated beyond all possibility of human comprehension of its entirety. This includes our own perspectives, our own memory and history and even emotions. Even very simple things and events, when stated as “facts” are given only from a very particular perspective, and only a very partial one at that, only limitedly percieved or recorded, then consciously or subconsciously edited, and so many other things beyond measure which limit our perception of any “truth” or “facts”. Only god, if “he” exists, could be fully and completely aware of any of this.
I am not saying that all is hopeless; we can and should make “judgements” about things all the time. We could not live or even exist otherwise. But I believe it wise that we should also be aware of our own very great limitations, and thus proceed with a proper humility.
July 31st, 2006 at 11:59 pm
Last week in my sociology class, my teacher was talking about the threat all this fuzz about terrorism is to democracy.. What Israel is doing to Lebnon is just that! Now any governament can just point a finger to any civilian and say he’s a hidden agenda and therefore can be target to bombs, abductions and any other uncivilized act.
By this puzzled testimonial, I offer my support for the civilians of Lebanon. And two advices i learned to care well enough: 1) Tolstoi left us: not a hundred guilt makes up for one innocent.. 2) my father used to say to me: “when you are right, take the most care not to become wrong”.. simplicity always has this amazing power of making the outrageous look even more dehuman.. USA is giving a gift to the world, and none has the right not to accept if.. the gift of the american way of life.. if it is good or not, i dont know, personally i love to know that somewhere in indian there’s someone practicing yoga with a painted dot on their forehead, i dont know much about it, so my curiosity has many options never to dim.. back to the point.. these last few years things are going especially entropic on middle east.. Pakistan, then Iraq.. now Lebanon.. the big bully says: be like us and support our leech-companies or we will break your soul..
From this throwing bombs kind of war i can see a biffurcation on my understanding of terrorism.. terrorists who wants to avenge their people.. and terrorists who see photos like these and just take some action or posture for such things never happened.. any of these two are against secular powers (as hafeez mentioned) and therefore become targets..
I dont think i’m even ready to make a reply.. got too many things to think about it, but already one thing is formed: my disgust for the clumsy, sick and amateur way Israel uses it’s bombs. If such army can have these bombs, hell, let’s give control of nuke silos to children, their aiming is as good as theirs..
ps: please, pay attention to one thing.. every conflict that starts, Bush come up with a new name for the ‘only good action’ to take.. it’s well done marketing (for evil purposes).. this time is to call talkings about this war “prolonged peace” or something like that..
August 1st, 2006 at 12:30 am
To be very honest, I feed bad for the innocent victims, with that being said…
I don’t see any reason why this was not gonna happen, I mean Look at you people, like what are you THINKING??? you’ve been loosing your Muslim Identity, cheapskates, show off’s and superiority complex runs in your FU**ED UP SELVES… Don’t get me wrong, I’m not taking out my ANTI ARAB sentiments on here oh wait maybe I am .. BIG DEAL. PPl like these exist everywhere, and I think its prolly a Muslim thaang nowadays where whoever gets a lil bit of CASH or fame wants to jack it up so that the whole wide world see’s it.
Lebanon is famous for its culture worldwide, Belle Dances, fashion (which really is nothing close to islamic clothin) etc. etc. I’m not saying this doesn’t happen elsewhere BUT STILL, this is the kinda of reputation ARABS have almost all ova the place.
Heard about the news where a 17 year old Kuwaiti girl ran away with an American 36 year old ball headed marine cuz she was in love with him (in the midst of Gulf War). Leave that aside for a moment, what about that Female Iraqi Doctor who actually felt like running away with the marine to get married and moved to US while her country in Iraq was ACTUALLY getting F****D by her to be husband in 2004?
What kind of loyalties do ARABS HAVE??? Even today, if you go to any parties in the West, and you claim you’re Arab, ppl get puzzled that you dont drink or its haraam cuz according to them Arabs drink Alcohol like its like TEA. I mean obviously there are non-Muslim Arabs which create some bad/negative impression as well, but still, I strongly believe its our OWN WRONG DOINGS That we need to be work out first, before we start seeking help elsewhere.
All in all, like i said in the beginning, Innocent people are innocent and life is a life, its not for me/us or anyone in this World to decide/judge one’s character, But you need to keep this in the back of your mind that the impression you have is what people see and keep in their minds and then pass judgements, if Arabs of todays World did not change this way of thinking then days are not far when we will see TOTAL DESTRUCTION.
May GOD guide you all to the right path.
August 1st, 2006 at 12:39 am
I just thought Id sahre this email that came across my desk today
Subject: FW: re Canberra Bishops Media release
MEDIA RELEASE
If these were silent the Stones would shout out
A Statement on the Middle East by Canberra’s Church leaders
31 July 2006
We find it impossible to remain silent in the face of so much pain and suffering in the Middle East, both in Lebanon and in Israel, but we have been particularly outraged by the news this morning of the deaths in the Lebanese village of Qana, no matter what its cause.
Where is the moral courage of our leaders? How can the leadership of the Australian Government and the Opposition not cry out for an immediate and unconditional cease-fire?
We are outraged that such unspeakable pain is being unleashed upon civilians, especially women and children, while the world remains largely silent.
Does it not occur to the Governments of Israel and the United States of America that the very possibility of a lasting, generational, peace is being made almost impossible while a new generation of youth are being accustomed to violence as a way of life.
We deplore the violence of Hezbollah and we deplore the violence of the State of Israel.
We find it impossible to understand how the leaders of our own nation have remained so cowardly silent in the face of such brutality.
We have had enough of this so called war on terror. When will the governments of the world come to understand that peace can only be built on justice and fairness?
We urge all governments of the world to invest in the millennium goals as the road to peace and to immediately apply them for the peoples of the Middle East.
We support the Christian leaders of Jerusalem in their recent call for an end to violence in the Middle East.
We can have no peace while violence is repaid with violence. It is a recipe for eventual annihilation.
May God have mercy upon us all and may there still remain, somewhere in that battered part of the world a seed which can one day grow into peace for the children who will soon become adults. May they not perpetuate the wrongs of the leadership of this generation.
Bishop George Browning, Anglican Church
Bishop Pat Power, Roman Catholic Church
Reverend Peter Walker, Uniting Church
Dr Kevin Bray, Churches of Christ
Professor James Haire, Director, Australian Centre for Christianity and Culture
August 1st, 2006 at 1:45 am
Thank you Amethyst, Goodness Dianna and shawn….
I was agressive with my words to Hafeez, dani and all who have the same veiw.
But they both talk absolute rubbish…rubbish!!!! And yes they are blind fools!!! trying to justify the Israeli terror we are seeing.
Oh Again It’s RK7 you idiot moron!!!! LOL…
I repeat again it’s “Israeli government&army and it’s political hidden agenda” I see as pure evil!! F*&%K Them!!!!!!!!!!!! Now they say they will not stop the bombing!!! F&@%*&#NG Disgusting!!!!!!!
It’s a trend If any one speaks the truth…Truth, the real truth the are quickly labelled antisem or what eva!! Well 700 dead and 700,000 with NO HOME!!!!!!! with $10 billion in damage!! Enough is enough You evil beast!!
It’s F@$#%%G enough!!
Stop destroying Lebanon!!!
Long live Lebanon!!!
August 1st, 2006 at 1:58 am
to haffez and dani…Go away you idiotic morons! LOL.. Just get lost! LOL..
Long live Lebanon.
August 1st, 2006 at 2:02 am
Hi Amythyst, we will always disagree with the likes of morons like dani and hafeez, because of one simple reason….
We speak and see truth for what it is. They do not!!
LONG LIVE LEBANON.
August 1st, 2006 at 2:03 am
Hi Amethyst, we will always disagree with the likes of morons like dani and hafeez, because of one simple reason….
We speak and see truth for what it is. They do not!!
LONG LIVE LEBANON.
August 1st, 2006 at 2:15 am
I am completly blown away from these pictures! As an American I am scared to do anything for these people because of the hatred people around the world seem to have for Americans, I dare not travel.
All I have say is in all the inner cities in the U.S. are most of the minorities as there was a great white move out of the cities into the suburbs, most of the subsidized housing units for elderly and disabled are in the inner cities or state capitals.
August 1st, 2006 at 4:34 am
I wonder how many of you protested the plight of the Kurds at the hands of Saddam Hussein? Such a bunch of egalitarian hypocrites you are.
From Wikipedia:
“The campaign of Iraqi government against Kurds in 1988 was called Anfal (Spoils of War). The Anfal attacks led to destruction of 2,000 villages and death of 300,000 Kurds [43].”
Come here to protest against Israel all you like - that is fair enough in a political debate - but to start quoting virulently anti-semitic material as taken from similarly virulently anti-semitic websites does not advance your cause one iota but does expose what your underlying beliefs are - and you wonder why Israel sees a need to be vigilant and respond when organisations attack them when their declared goal is to destroy Israel.
For those who want to read Freedman’s article click here:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/benjamin.htm
For the website of this group that promotes this type of tripe you can click here:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/
A person with a half a brain will recognise what this material is all about, half-wits, lost souls and anti-semites will just lap this garbage up.
This is the stuff that organisations such as the Ku Klux Klan proudly promote, but then Karen is probably a member of that organisation as well. or a similar white supremacist group.
So if you can’t mount a sound, intelligent debate on the political issue, go after the person, or in this case, the Jewish people. A very old and well tried method of trying to win a debate - like in soccer, you can’t beat the skills of the player so you just hack at this legs till he can’t stand anymore.
So come on AK47, Karen, Shawn, Amethyst and the rest of you - come and have another go at me, let’s see what more crap you can pull out to support your arguments.
August 1st, 2006 at 4:46 am
Well, at least Lebanon has learned that it’s a bad idea to harbor and fund terrorists that target Israel…Just not too bright. Also, it’s a little hard to actually target just the terrorists if they hide behind the civilians and use them as human shields.
August 1st, 2006 at 4:49 am
Careful Matt - suggesting something so simplistic and to the point will land you in hot water over here.
August 1st, 2006 at 4:53 am
asslsmu alaikum
August 1st, 2006 at 6:33 am
That’s true, and I agree that war is a terrible thing, but truly this is one of Israel’s few options in a situation like this. The last time Israel went to negotiations over the kidnapping of their soldiers, they had to release over 400 prisoners associated with Lebanese and Palestinian terrorist groups to secure the return of their people. That only encouraged the terrorists to strike again, hoping that the same result would come from it. In this situation, the Israelis have done what they usually do, attack until the other side gives up or gets tired of the fighting and changes things; while this is not the greatest plan, and epecially not the most popular plan, what else can Israel do at this point?
August 1st, 2006 at 6:35 am
Matt - if its hard to target just the terrorists behind civilians, does that justify killing the civilians to get to the terrorists?
August 1st, 2006 at 6:39 am
Dani and Matt
How easy it is for you to make something complicated and entrenched in secrecy and lies in to something so simplistic. You will have us believe that this situation in Lebanon is as it seems (or rather as reported by the majority jewish owned media).
Israel’s and the US’s reason for anything they are involved in is never simple …… it takes years of calculation and manipulation and brain washing of the of the illiterate and the blind believers ……… Who would rather damn their people to hell and watch their blood flow in the streets (as collaterol damage) ……. rather than admit they made a mistake.
Yar yar yar yar yar …. we heard it ALL BEFORE. Israel has a right to defend itself and Hezballah started it yadda yadda yadda
August 1st, 2006 at 6:53 am
To RK7, Karen, Shawn,
And all who are disgusted by Israels and the US evil agendas disguised as a “ROADMAP TO EVERLASTING PEACE”. THANK YOU all for your support.
To Dani, Hafeez, Spirit of 9/11,
And all who are still justifying this SLAUGHTER of INNOCENTS and the destruction of My Beautiful and Beloved Lebanon, country of my birth and home of my ancestors graves …….. now being desicrated by the spilling of blood from innocent of babies. For you to look at the images on this page and those that are coming out of the carnage in Lebanon and still insist that its your right, proves that all your words of REGRET and sorrow are about as genuine as your claim on Palestine and that you are seeking everlasting peace.
Cut the crap and wake up to yourselves ……. THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION to what israel is doing.
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?????
TO SACRAFICE THESE INNOCENT PEOPLE for your bogus claims of Freedom and Peace for all in the Middle East.
I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE & I WILL SAY IT AGAIN …..
PEACE cannot be brokered by THIS CARNAGE AND SLAUGHTER OF THE INNOCENTs. All you are doing is creating a breeding ground for desperate young youths (who have nothing left to lose because Israel and the US destroyed it all), to fulfil YOUR DREAM to becoming suicide bombers. And then in all their rightous rhetoric, they will condem these young men as Terrorist which in turn will (in their corrupt minds) give them more justification to go in and destroy more INNOCENTS.
So lets say a hearty thanks to the Israeli and US governments for creating these future Terrorist, and then lets thank them again when they TRY to”SAVE” the world from them. I say TRY, because have they had a success yet in this war on Terrorism. We only have to look at Iraq and Afghanastan to see how the “NEW WORLD ORDER” is going to shape up for the rest of us.
I DO NOT WISH HARM ON ANY INNOCENT PERSON …….. BUT I DO WISH THAT THE ISRAELI & US GOVERMENTS PAY FOR THIS DISASTER FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY …….. If they started saying sorry now name by name of all the innocents that they have killed in this pretence of a ‘War on Terrorism’, it will take them a million eternities and they will never get to the end of this evergrowing list.
But thats OK ………. you supporters sit back in your lounge rooms, as these government officials are sitting back in their board rooms ……….. and TRY TO CONVINCE US that you TRUELY regret this.
August 1st, 2006 at 6:54 am
Children it is a pity, Israel - never anything good did.
August 1st, 2006 at 6:59 am
Ak47, Karen, Amethyst, etc.,
The truth?
As someone once said “You can’t handle the truth!”.
And, guys, shame, shame on you for bringing up such old and notorious and thoroughly debunked “sources” of the fairy tales you wish so much to believe.
What will you be citing next, the “protocols of the elders of zion”?
And when will you be donning the robes of the klu klux klan? I’m sure they have made you at least “hororary” members by now. You really do them proud! Anybody up for a lynching? So much fun!!!
And karen, I really appreciate your talk about “miserable, hateful, lives” because that is so obviously your own experience, and of those of those you emulate so adeptly, who are ever ready to spew their bile and venom, of which they have such a vast supply.
But please, if you have one shred of decency left, please desist from citing Noam Chomsky; he would have nothing to do with the likes of you.
And AK47 (come on, I thought you were clever, making allusion to the weapon so favoured by so many of the “resistance” fighters who are your buddies), you “idiotic moron”, I never tried to “justify” anyones “actions”, just tried to tell you that this onanistic orgy of hatred and racism that you are all engaging in here does little or nothing to alleviate any suffering, prevent any deaths. Rather this shameful display, writ large in the world, tends rather to exacerbate the situation and make it worse.
You are always saying that force and violence will do nothing to “solve” the situation for israel.
So where will your own violence, your own unrelenting hatred and racism lead?
Or, are you hypocrites as well as fools?
August 1st, 2006 at 7:13 am
I did warn you Matt. You are dealing here with some that have no idea about rationality, let alone looking for the root cause of the problem.
Strange how Israel can live in relative peace with Egypt and Jordan - two former sworn enemies of the state of Israel - when a bit of good will and compromise is shown - yet Israel always has problems with neighbouring arab countries that permit so called freedom fighters aka resistance fighters aka terrorists to use their land as a base to operate from and launch attacks into Israel.
Even on the border with Syria, there has been quiet in recent years. Sure, buffer zones in some instances may help, but the point is there has been relative peace and quiet on three borders, so why not with Lebanon?
The question is why has Lebanon consistently permitted groups like Hezbollah now and the PLO previously to operate out of southern Lebanon?
You would have thought by now that the Lebanese people would have realised that by entertaining the presence of such groups and their activities, they were only inviting trouble - and, as recent history shows, trouble is what has resulted and who suffers, the innocents behind which these groups choose to operate.
The destiny of Lebanon is and always has been in the hands of the Lebanese people. Sooner or later, they will realise there is nothing to gain except pain, death and destruction by allowing extremists groups to base themselves on Lebanese territory for the carrying out of attacks across the border in Israel.
It really is that simple Amethyst.
August 1st, 2006 at 7:16 am
I really wanted to discuss some feelings this morning rather than state facts since they seem to fall on deaf ears. I was actually proud of the American government yesterday as Republican Senator Chuck Hagel stood before the Senate and said “Bush must call for an immediate cease fire right now”. Obviously the fact that most of America does not support this massacre is finally starting to sink in. I am curious to see how much influence the American government has though. I wouldn’t be surprised if Bush called for an immediate cease fire and the Israeli government told him to piss off. This is the arrogant stance the Israeli’s have taken thus far and so much for a 48 hour cease fire as more innocent civilians were killed yesterday. I actually watched CNN yesterday and was surprised to see the reporter in Bin Jabil talking about the fact the city is completely leveled. He said there were no signs that a battle with Hezbollah had happend. The only spent ammo that could be found was Israeli. This seems to proove Craig Roberts claim that Israel is simply clearing the Lebanese people permanently from southern Lebanon by destroying their homes and giving them nothing to come back to.
I have found it odd that Jews world wide share a unity with Israel and stand behind them. The same cannot be said for Arabs and it angers me the Arab world has not stood up and said enough. They had more riots and demonstrations over a cartoon than they have over their own innocent brothers and sisters being slaughtered in the streets and their own homes. I am glad to hear Syria is stepping things up….it’s more pressure. I just wish Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan would step up and take a front seat. I was even more happy to see Nouri Al Maliki (Iraqi Prime Minister) stood up for the Arab people by not denouncing Hezbollah and not showing support for Israel in his speech to the American Congress.
To ceazar2, the best thing you can do is flood sites such as this and let the world know that most American people do not support Israel. It is a big controversy in America because the non - Jews do not support Israel yet our Government does because the most of the money needed for their re-elections comes from Jews.
I wish there was an answer or an easy end to all the violence in the middle east. Unfortunatley it is the same as the situation in Iraq. Shiites and Sunnis lived side by side in Iraq before Americas intervention. Now they are at war with each other with America stuck in the middle with no way out. Proof that you reep what you sow. When will our world leaders learn that violence breeds violence, hate breeds hate and that peace starts when the leaders seek peace.
August 1st, 2006 at 7:33 am
Shawn said - “I have found it odd that Jews world wide share a unity with Israel and stand behind them. The same cannot be said for Arabs and it angers me the Arab world has not stood up and said enough.”
Do you really need to ask?
Firstly, the moderate arab states understand what is going on and know who is at fault here.
Secondly, they don’t want to see such fundamentalist terrorist groups exist, coz they know what havoc they could cause in their countries in trying to implement fundamentalism.
And the third point is they are pragmatic and realise Israel is not going to disappear so it is better to either make peace or come to a tacit understanding over the right of the state of Israel to exist.
August 1st, 2006 at 7:45 am
Dani, you a sad, sad individual. Those were my feelings not a fact for you make some kind of ridiculous poloitical point. Don’t use my feelings to make your point. By the way, I also saw a report about thousands of IDF members flooding the internet to make a sad attempt to convince the world what thier doing is right. So tell us Dani….what are you really doing here at a site dedicated to the Lebanese people?
August 1st, 2006 at 7:54 am
Fast forward to when the fighting has ended, a cease-fire in place and a peace-keeping force with teeth is in place.
1) The state of Israel will still exist.
2) Hezbollah, in some form, will still exist.
3) Families on both sides of the border will mourn their dead and tend their wounded.
4) Destroyed buildings and structures on both sides of the border will be rebuilt.
5) A strip of land maybe 10 miles wide or maybe as far north from the border as the Litani river will become a demilitarized zone, patrolled by an armed international peace-keeping force which will be charged with monitoring such groups as Hezbollah with the power to disarm such groups.
6) Hezbollah will have won the PR war.
7) Israel will have won a buffer zone that will offer some respite from constant terrorist attacks by extremist groups from Lebanon - arguably more important than a PR war.
8) There will be a prisoner exchange of some sort.
9) The UN and others will condemn Israel - so what’s new?
10) Over time, the Lebanese people will start to ask questions regarding Hezbollah’s tactics and whether the death and destruction that resulted from Hezbollah launching an unprovoked attack into Israel which resulted into the deaths of kidnapping of Israeli soldiers was worth it.
August 1st, 2006 at 7:54 am
nomi, if you are really “moderate” (you don’t really sound so, or maybe it is indicative of how “extreme” the average islamic viewpoint really is), I will attempt to provide some answers for you, which I will interpolate within your posting
nomi(Pakistan) said,
on July 31st, 2006 at 7:40 am
i cant understand why these jews
RIGHT OFF THE BAT YOU EXPRESS AN OFFENSIVE ATTITUDE. IT IS THE SAME AS WHEN PEOPLE CALL YOU PAKIS. BE CAREFUL.
even cant tolerate comments on their master pieces
ACTUALLY, THE JEWISH PEOPLE TOLERATE COMMENTS AND CRITICISM ALL THE TIME, WHEAREAS THE ISLAMIC WORLD TENDS TO BECOME INFLAMED AT THE MOST TRIVIAL THINGS, SUCH AS THE RECENT PUBLICATION OF THOSE STUPID LITTLE CARTOONS OF MOHAMMAD.
i know their desire for peace n lov to live in harmony with their neighbours i hav some points if somone can answer
1)
wat is justification foe jews to occupy Arab lannds n call them Isreal.They were killed byJermens n killed in Europe then why a countery for them in Middle East????
THE MIDDLE EAST (A MUCH LARGER AREA EVEN THAN PRESENT DAY ISRAEL) HAS ALWAYS BEEN THEIR HISTORICAL HOMELAND. THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A JEWISH POPULATION IN THE REGION, SOMETIMES GREATER, SOMETIMES LESSER, AND THEY HAVE ONLY BEEN MOSTLY “REFUGEES” IN OTHER COUNTRIES, SUCH AS IN EUROPE, AND THROUGHOUT MOST OF HISTORY, HAVE NEVER BEEN GIVEN ANYTHING APPROACHING THE FULL RIGHTS AS CITIZENS IN THOSE COUNTRIES. THE DESIRE TO RETURN TO ISRAEL, THE THOUGHT OF JERUSALEM AS THEIR HOLIEST OF PLACES, HAS ALWAYS BEEN PREDOMINANT IN THIS DIASPORA.
2)
if Jews hav right to liv in Isreal as they used to liv there centuries b4 then why same right is denied for Muslims of Spain red Indians of USA native of Australia n many more n even to palestine people who were draged out n forced to leave by so called Peace lovers “CHOOSEN ONES”
ACTUALLY, THE JEWISH PEOPLE WOULD ARGUABLY HAVE “MORE” RIGHTS THAN EITHER THE EUROPEAN CONQUERORS OF THE AMERICAS AND AUSTRALIA, OR THE MUSLIM CONQUERORS OF SPAIN (MORALLY SPEAKING, MIGHT DOES NOT MAKE RIGHT).
AND EVEN SPEAKING TIME SPANS, SOME OF THIS “CONQUERING” OF THE AMERICAS WAS DONE MORE RECENTLY THAN A GREAT DEAL OF THE JEWISH RETURN TO ISRAEL.
IF YOU REALLY WISH TO ACT UPON THIS, YOU SHOULD INSIST THAT ALL NON-NATIVES LEAVE THE AMERICAS.
THIS INCLUDES EUROPEANS, THIS INCLUDES AFRICANS, THIS INCLUDES ARABS, AND OF COURSE ANY OTHER MUSLIMS (EX-PAKISTANIS AS WELL) THAT CURRENTLY RESIDE THERE.
3)
when n why it started?????
in 1948 when jews occupies Arab lands n named dem Isreal how a person can forget his home his land was Isreal a barren land with no population whn jews OCCUPIED IT?????
RIGHT. HOW CAN A PERSON FORGET HIS HOMELAND? THIS AREA IS THE HOMELAND OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE AS WELL. TELL ME, HOW MANY YEARS DOES IT TAKE IN EXILE FOR THIS RIGHT TO EXPIRE?
BY THE WAY, THE MUSLIMS CONQUERED THE LAND OF INDIA, WHICH WAS OCCUPIED MOSTLY BY HINDUS. DON’T YOU THINK THEY SHOULD “LEAVE” THIS LAND (WHICH INCLUDES PAKISTAN) WHICH DOES NOT RIGHTFULLY BELONG TO THEM?
WHERE its all population went eg HAIFA?????
WHERE IS THE JEWISH POPULATION OF IRAQ (ONCE NEAR A MILLION), OF EGYPT, OF IRAN, OF THE WEST BANK AND SURROUNDING AREAS?
SORRY, BUT HISTORY IS NOT SO “BLACK AND WHITE” AS YOU SEEM TO BELIEVE.
4)
if SHEEBA FARMS is syreian territory giv it to Syria n let Hizbullah n Syria fight why u innocnrent are indulging in it?????
THE SHEBAA FARMS WAS CAPTURED FROM SYRIA, BUT ITS OWNERSHIP IS UNDER DISPUTE. HERE IS WHAT HEZBOLLAH HAS TO SAY ON IT: Hezbollah spokesperson Hassan Ezzedin had this to say about the area: “If they go from Sheba’a, we will not stop fighting them. Our goal is to liberate the 1948 borders of Palestine…[Jews] can go back to Germany or wherever they came from.” New Yorker, (October 14, 2002).
5)
why HIZBULLAH is a terrorist organization becoz their country has no money to buy uniform for them like ur country?????
THEY CERTAINLY HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY TO BUY VAST AMOUNTS OF WEAPONS AND THE LIKE. THEY ARE CONSIDERED A “TERRORIST ORGANIZATION” BY SOME BECAUSE THEY DELIBERATELY TARGET CIVILLIANS, BECAUSE THEY DELIBERATEY AIM TO INFLICT PAIN AND SUFFERING THAT GOES BEYOND ANY CONCEIVABLE STRATEGIC OR MILITARY GOAL.
6)
Muslims will never loose dis battle as u hav done wt u can now it is ur turn to recieve??/
I BELIEVE, I KNOW FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE THAT MUSLIMS HAVE WAY TOO MUCH AN INTEREST, EVEN AN OBSESSION, WITH “BATTLES”, WITH VIOLENCE.
I WISH, JUST FOR ONCE, FOR ONCE, THAT WE COULD TRY THE WAY OF PEACE.
PERHAPS THEN WE MIGHT “RECIEVE” PEACE IN RETURN.
plz give me ansof abov i m very moderate PAkistani n thnk in differnt
I HOPE THIS HAS CLEARED UP ANY CONFUSION YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD. IF YOU REALLY ARE MODERATE, THEN I HOPE YOU WILL AT LEAST LISTEN AND CONSIDER THESE THINGS. I WAS ONCE A VERY “IMMODERATE” MUSLIM MYSELF, BUT FINALLY LEARNED THAT THIS WAS ONLY THE PATH TO MY OWN DESTRUCTION.
August 1st, 2006 at 7:56 am
What am I doing Shawn? You really need to ask? If nothing else, try and understand the comment “the folly of war”.
August 1st, 2006 at 8:06 am
I appreciate the concern Dani, but I like to bounce ideas off of those with opposing point of views. It helps me understand what and how other people think, even if I get yelled at and denounced for my views.
Also to point out to Shawn, the Shiite and Sunni sects have been killing each for over a century, the only reason that it didn’t happen so much during Saddam’s regime was because the Sunni’s were in power and they oppressed the Shiite and Kurd communities in Iraq.
I also pointed out before that I did not like violence, and then I read a comment about how people like me were against violence but support war, so we’re hypocrites. I’d like to clarify that by saying that I do not like violence, but I never said anything about it being unnecessary. Sometimes violence is necessary for change, and whether that change is good or bad depends on the people involved, I do hope that better people, people who actually believe in peace, and not in peace after the other side is gone, come to be world leaders soon. That way pointless wars like this can be averted, and we won’t need anyone to be soldiers anymore. But that is not the reality of the world, there will always be bad people, and usually those people will be in positions to make decisions because they are willing to do whatever it takes to be in power. Now, I would like to pose a question to those who support the Lebanese in this conflict: What do you think it would take to make both sides put down their arms and live in peace, without the destruction of one of the sides involved?
August 1st, 2006 at 8:17 am
What you are doing is sitting and waiting for others like you to post so hopefully you can make a friend. All of your posts are a ridiculous attempt to justify Israel’s slaughter of innocent human beings. It is no different than if I logged on to an Iraqi web site and tried to justify the American slaughter of Iraqi’s. I would be pummeled by an onslaught of word bombs. Also, if a world war were to break out and if you think for a single second that Saudi Arabia, Egypt or Jordan would continue to side with the U.S. and Israel your an idiot. Unfortunatley the leaders of those countries have decided to be a puppet to the U.S. government. But just as most Americans do not believe in the actions of our government neither do the people of those countries.
August 1st, 2006 at 8:30 am
It is a shameless barbarous act of not a barbarous regime of Israel,but more of the US hatered Bush and his whole government including the house and senate representatives and American peoples! yes also american peoples who elected them and who believes that they are having the bigest democracy of the world, the UN security council which is realy merely made to watch for the interest of big pigs.Also shame to peoples around world who watch these atrocities and do not act accordingly.if we are realy against this genocide we should cry loudly and resist to them by all the tools .
August 1st, 2006 at 8:34 am
Fico muito triste porque quem sofre é a população, principalmente os pobres e mais humildes.
Ver as crianças sofrendo corta meu coração.
Stop this war NOW
August 1st, 2006 at 8:42 am
Actually Saudi Arabia has very high connections in the US government, and not us controlling them, but the Saudis controlling the US. The best way to put it is that they are a silent partner, reaping the benefits without taking any of the flak. If a world war would break out, it would pretty much be the US, Israel, and maybe Britain, against the Islamic world. That would suck for all parties involved. But I would like to ask what you’re suggestion is for Israel to do at this point. What would you do if insurgents or terrorists or freedom fighters, whatever word you wish to use, kidnapped some of your people? Would you just sit there and accept that they were good as dead? Would you negotiate with them and hand over 400 insurgents for your people? Or would you retaliate so they would not do it again?
Oh, and why would I be looking for friends on a site that is called stopdestroyinglebanon.com? I could easily find people who share my point of view on a number of other sites I don’t care to look at. What I am interested in is the other side’s take on the issues, which is why I’m talking to you.
August 1st, 2006 at 8:48 am
Matt,
You seem to think it is okay to murder children and elderly for what you think is a just cause.
Whether or not your cause is indeed just, killing innocents the way Israel has been doing is wrong to say the least.
What should Israel do?
Start by sparing the lives of the innocent.
Next, stop giving people reasons to attack it, give Lebanon back its land. Give Lebanon back its prisonners of war.
August 1st, 2006 at 9:02 am
Actually that comment was for Dani but as far as your claim for Saudi Arabi having power over the American government, what fictional books are you reading from. My point with Dani is he has no facts to back him up other than CNN. Shiites and Sunnies have been at it for a long time BUT NOT IN IRAQ. I see that you are another brainwashed and blinded person believing in what you hear from the media and government. My hope is one day America will wake up and realize the brutality of Israel and that Arab doesn’t mean terrorist. They are fighting for their rightful place in this world as the early Americans fought the British for ours.
August 1st, 2006 at 9:04 am
I see it plain and simple.. ever since europe organized it’s population out of the tribe context, they just could not let middle east alone anymore..
The death of innocent civilians is a true shame.. but the to blame the culture by itself, no, sorry, cannot do it.. and while all these brainiacs rationalize war and bombings on the secure shelter of their far from the conflict homes, i say innocent victims have this name, this sign because they are people just like you and me: they have their faith, muslins or not, they have hopes, and most believe if they act good, the world will never bring them this kind of pain.. and then they wake up with the roof falling on their heads..
who’s wrong?!.. who’s right??.. there’s enough perspectives, enough situations where each side is right.. you just choose which ones are more important or justify the most your inner desires..
personally, i just hate when Israel attacks any target, televisions from all over the world start casting movies such as Schindler’s List and each and every drama movie where nazi’s torture and kill jews.. talking about brainwash, huh.. and i say it because i’m brazilian, it happens EVEN here..
so it’s quite right to rationalize when you see human life as statistics or keep this maniqueist way of thinking.. and for you rationalizers, please, go to google and search for Mary Shelley and Human Rights..
ps: and, above all, for what i could see, this site is not to say who’s right, but to say one nation cannot attack another nation on the grounds that they are unable to root out terrorists.. and, even more, war is army against army, if you attack civillians, it’s plain barbarism..
August 1st, 2006 at 9:07 am
But wouldn’t it be easier for Israel to consider sparing the lives of the innocent if it’s kidnapped soldiers were returned? I can understand giving Lebanon back its land, that is the right thing to do, especially to put an end to the conflict. But if Israel gives back the Lebanese land it holds, would that cause Hezbollah to call off its conflict against them? As I understand, they are fighting the Israeli occupation of their land, so if Israel would withtdraw, would that appease them enough, or would they, as so many other insurgent groups have in the past, ask for more. That is one of the main reasons I support Israel, if they follow the path of appeasement it would only lead to war, except it would be when Israel no longer has the upper hand, as they would be in a corner. Still, from what I understand, the insurgents opposed to Israel would still not be happy, even if Israel was made up of 1 square km.
August 1st, 2006 at 9:13 am
usually i hate analogies.. but there’s almost necessity of one here..
if you say boo-hoo, die die little ignorant bastards to the Lebanese people because they deserved bla bla bla.. it’s just the same you go to the funeral of the 9/11 victims and say exactly the same.. cause the only innocent people there where the janitors and the coffee lady.. there they decided things not looking to the human side, just monetary.. there will ALWAYS be victims, it’s just a question of how politized you are to the point of seeing people as statistics..
August 1st, 2006 at 9:15 am
shame to all those stupid persons that back such an act of barbarous zionist regim.the us government and their stupid people
August 1st, 2006 at 9:17 am
Insurgents????????????? Like I said, BRAINWASHED!!!!!
August 1st, 2006 at 9:31 am
Would you rather me call it as I see it? Good to go, I believe Hezbollah is a terrorist group, as they are using fear to try to attain a specific objective. Better for you, or would that make me more brainwashed. And as to Saudi Arabia not having any sway in the US government, my government: why would the US, after determining the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi in origin, attack Afghanistan and Iraq? Because our economy runs on oil, and Saudi Arabia has oil. Simple as that. If we attacked Saudi Arabia we would take a major hit on our oil imports, and our government is run by people with connections to the oil industry. It sucks, especially for me since I love my country, to see it in its current state, all I can do is try to make it better by understanding all the things we do wrong.
August 1st, 2006 at 10:00 am
Well then Matt, pick up a book and try learning about Hezbollah instead of believing all you hear. I would tell you to check out Al Manar t.v. but the American government won’t let you let see it. Al Qaida is a terrorist organization and strictly a militant group. Hezbollah builds homes, hospitals and schools for the Lebonese people. They gave the southern Lebonese people a sense of security as no one else would stand up for them. Is is right for every 1 Israeli soldier killed, 100 Lebanese women and children will die? Hezbollah are the seeds of Israels destruction of Arab people in the middle east. Read some history about the IDF and you’ll find out where Hamas and Hezbollah learned about terrorism. Israel is hell bent on the destruction of Arab people. I will repeat what started this latest volly for you because as an American it is hard to get to the truth. You would probably say it was when Hamas kidnapped the Israeli soldier. Try 2 weeks earlier when Israeli missles hit Palestinian beach goers (more innocent civilians). Then tried to say they were Palestinian missiles as now they are implying that it could have been Hezbollah that killed all those civillians in Qana. The truth about Israel’s brutality is out there and until Americans quit believing everything they hear in the media and actually pick up a book they will never know the truth. As far as the whole Saudi Arabi issue it is speculation with no documented evidence. It is this same speculation that keeps Americans believing all Arabs - Muslims are hell bent on destruction.
August 1st, 2006 at 10:01 am
The People of the 21.century are the slaves of such democracies. How can we let the governments to be so savage. The people sit in their house, watsch TV-shows and eat pizza, and let their government to kill the people so easy. They think only of themself, the politicians want power and money and the people their own piece of pizza in their comfort sofa! So civilized are we!
I hope that some days, the people wake up, and understand the meaning of terrorist, the meaning of untrue and true. And I’m sure, every day some bodys dye, because the other are asleept, blind and deaf.
August 1st, 2006 at 10:37 am
Matt
You said “But if Israel gives back the Lebanese land it holds, would that cause Hezbollah to call off its conflict against them? As I understand, they are fighting the Israeli occupation of their land, so if Israel would withtdraw, would that appease them enough, or would they, as so many other insurgent groups have in the past, ask for more. ”
That is garbage because Israel pulled out in 2000 and there has been 6 years of relative peace. Surely if Hezballah wanted to continue war they would have.
As for who initiated this war, Israel has invaded Lebanese air space every single day since it pulled out in 2000 and yet nobody says a single word. Israel still holds prisoners that it wont release. So what do you suggest can be done ? Trust that the benevolent zionist regime is going to give these people a fair trial ? Trust that they will be released soon ? Go to the UN and complain ? I mean hell, what is one more UN resolution against Israel going to matter.
Ultimately, “there is something fundamentally wrong when there are more dead children than adults or soldiers”. Enough is enough. Hezbollah never fired a single rocket before Israel’s incursion.
August 1st, 2006 at 10:39 am
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14287.htm
August 1st, 2006 at 10:54 am
Good point Ned! 65 U.N. resolutions against Israel from 1955 - 1999 for their occupation of Palestinian land and human rights violations.
65!!!!!!!!!
No other country in the world can boast about a number that high.
7500 Lebanese and Palestinian prisoners to include women and children.
August 1st, 2006 at 11:13 am
As a publicist, i can say with study and time spend analysis, the media controls most of our ideas.. there are simple methods, the first one is lack of information, the second one is the bent of information, the third one is involuntary, the jornalist which writes/tell the situation express his point of view accompanied of all his prejudices. Throughout history there’s only one law: the most powerful (war winners) write the books of history.. i’m saying all this because what Shawn said about Hezbollah is true.. they did too many things for the Lebanese people. But Israel is on a tight situation, they have nowhere to go, they are so insecure and open to enemy fire that a short distance rocket can hit their cities, solution is down simple: expand your frontiers.. wait and see, they will make a security zone and make it definitive; a brand new Gaza Strip..
August 1st, 2006 at 11:29 am
Ned.. i know a family of lebanese, one of their sons is a a diplomatic aidé of Brazil in Lebanon.. last time we talked, about one year and a half, he told me that in Lebanon, the first few weeks he was always scared, because Israelly airplanes would pass over Lebanon cities and break the sound barrier, when that happens, theres a really loud boom.. he said it happened at least every two days, sometimes two or three times in a single day.. just Israel showing it’s power..
But let’s not blame jews.. because democracy has proven not really acting as the countymen wants.. so, it’s not about zionism ou anti-semitism, it’s against a governament which doesnt care for the laws of war!!!
August 1st, 2006 at 12:09 pm
Fabiano,
Good point! I hate to think people hate me because I’m an American. I don’t hate anyone but because of the actions of my Government there are people who would love to kill me. Just some backround, I am a white, 37 year old American male. I have a great family, good job and a nice home. For me this situation would go away just by me turning off the t.v., stop reading the papers and start reading books about science fiction. But I choose to educate myself and stay informed and to browse the internet voice my opinion and maybe, just maybe get someone to think outside the box of what they hear everyday. I used to believe everything I heard on the news and from my government as do many Americans A couple of years ago HBO ran a program about children growing up in Palestine. It was an American journalist and her small team spending several months in Palestine. At the end they were interviewing a Palestinian family when the home became surrounded by the IDF. The journalist and her team went outside screaming that they were the press. Her camera man was shot in the head and died instantly. No reason, no excuses, no nothing. It never even appeared in the news here. That was when I began to do my homework. I have read everything I can get my hands on American, Israeli, Palestinian and Lebanese. I am moved the most when Jews write books about the Israeli government and the IDF because they are the ones who use the words like genocide and brutality when describing the IDF and the Iraeli government. Today’s big news in America is that an actor was arressted and the anti semitic comments he made. The longer this plays out as long as there is no escalation in violence it will disappear from the American headlines. Point is I hope to be 1 person that can make a difference and influence others to seek out the truth.
August 1st, 2006 at 12:50 pm
Was my message removed, or is it hidden among all the excuses, the pointing fingers, the blame game? Here it is again.
I would like to apologize for my country, and any and all suffering that we have caused you. Our president is insane, our last two elections were corrupt, and most of the people here are either apathetic or blinded by religious extremism.
War is horrible, this really should not be happening. I do feel great sorrow for the individuals, familes and friends who have lost loved ones.
However, one must look at the big picture.
The Arab world, including it’s leaders, have called repeatedly for the destruction of an entire nation. Killing an entire nation is ok with you? Why is it ok for you to kill whoever you want, and it is not ok for you to be killed? No one is that special. No one. I include america as well.
Even muslims in america have tried to say that the holocaust never happened, no matter that 6 million skeletons can not lie and even germany admits that it happened. It is really hard to bear such utter stupidity, such hatefulness . . .
I am not a jew, nor do I care any more for them than I do for you. You are all crazy, muslims and jew, who are not able to live with anyone who is not exactly like yourself.
You do not know how to live in peace. There is always an excuse. You are not willing to admit that you have ever done wrong, nothing is ever your fault. You are always innocent. You place blame as a child. You hate as a child.
I am truely sorry that no one in the middle east is able to set aside their differences and live in peace, as reasonable adults.
Trying to reason with a child is pointless. Call me when you can accept some responsibility for the anamosity between Lebanon and isreal.
August 1st, 2006 at 1:24 pm
Logic….Whatever
Exactly the reason why the rest of the world hates America!!!!! Do you speak as a resonable adult? There are more caucasion Americans that deny the holocaust than Muslim. It is hateful people just like you who perpetuate the hate that brings about war.
August 1st, 2006 at 1:25 pm
If Lebanon were attacking Isreal, and they had put pictures of the desctruction on the internet, I would be sending the exact same message to them.
I am well aware of how propaganda works, and am not impressed. Only fools and children think with their emotions.
You are all children, jews and muslims alike.
All of middle eastern countries have proven time and time again that none of you, both jews and muslims, are not able to live in peace with people who are different from youselves.
I do not wish death or harm to anyone, but logically, the only way there will ever be lasting peace in the middle east is if you all are dead, jews and muslims alike.
August 1st, 2006 at 1:36 pm
Most of the world could make the same argument of the U.S. and thier policies! You are an inhuman person and would do better giving your views on a KKK web site!!
August 1st, 2006 at 1:43 pm
Please read my words carefully. I did not say anything about which group denies the holocaust more.
Logic does not care about hate, Hate is an emotion with no value. Children use emotions in place of logic.
August 1st, 2006 at 1:48 pm
Then you should change your name to child because you are making hateful statements with no logic!
August 1st, 2006 at 2:00 pm
Care to point out any illogical inconsistencies in anything I have said so far?
Insults and other childish nonsense does not work well with me.
August 1st, 2006 at 2:07 pm
Actually no…….You are perfectly sane and think very rationally……..for a skinhead!!!!!!
August 1st, 2006 at 2:14 pm
Logic does not respond to anything except additional logic.
Please reread my previous messages.
August 1st, 2006 at 2:25 pm
Why don’t you go back and reread some posts and educate yourself? To say the entire Arab world wants to destroy a country is just retarded. You only make yourself look more ignorant. And stop with the logic. Logic isn’t saying there will only be peace if an entire race is gone. That’s ignorance and you can’t debat with ignorance. The only thing you’ve done here is solidify the Arabs points that all Americans are barbarians.
August 1st, 2006 at 2:32 pm
I apologize, Shawn.
My previous messages are currently at the bottom of the section entitled “Demo Photos”, and it was there that I thought I was responding. The above messages might not make sense to you without reading the messages which were posted earlier.
Again, I apologize any potential confusion.
August 1st, 2006 at 2:48 pm
dios mio me pregunto donde esta la comunidad arabe y musulmana para dar la cara a todos esos que apoyan a israel !de que tienen miedo?el gobierno de israel no tiene piedad a ningun ser que no sea de su maldita religion .si nos quedamos a si crusados las manos nos van a destruir a todos.espesialmente a los mosulmanes y los arabes.
August 1st, 2006 at 2:52 pm
hee hee hee,
what have we here…?
I think half tease is three in one. Musta got really tired of being that 9/11 fellah and so now he has a new one…Matt. Eeerrie stuff.
I can see it now. half tease is shoved away somewhere in some asylum. Lucky fella….must be nice to clack away on a keyboard all day long. Of course their must be some breaks for munchies and other sordid - I mean assorted (sorry!!!) “thinking” - whoops I meant refreshments.
Has anyone seen the three faces of Eve? Poor half tease, either he was inspired by the movie or he just came out like that.
Logic? Your name is logic? How come?
We must be dead to have peace? WOW LOGICAL thought. BRILLIANT.
If isreal had THOSE kind of pictures to show on the internet due to Lebanon attacking them …THERE WOULD BE NO LEBANON AT ALL. YOU WOULDN’T HAVE ONE SINGLE LEBANESE TO TELL YOUR CONDESCENDING, CRAP TO. isreal would have NUKED the whole country of Lebanon, and possibly Syria, and Iran.
If isreal had pictures to show of their dead like the pictures above??? IT COULDN’T BE DONE! Lebanon does not HAVE such WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION for their use! Lebanon does not HAVE an army of MONSTERS like isreal. Is that not Comprehensible to you? ……..er uh …logic??
I don’t know if anyone was listening to Alexa McDonough this morning on the Canadian news…but what a great woman. She made fantastic sense about the senseless murdering going on in Lebanon and had some harsh but common sense words for Harper.
August 1st, 2006 at 3:01 pm
Do share Karen!
August 1st, 2006 at 3:03 pm
“you can’t debat with ignorance”
What do you suggest is a proper tool for debate?
Do a search. The muslim world has made no secret of the fact that it wants to eradicate an entire group of people.
For how many years must the rest of the world tolerate intolerance? Please do not ignore the section where I said that I do not wish harm or death on anyone.
If two groups of children fight and blame each other, neither one is willing to admit any wrong doing, and most importantly, this behavior never ends, what is an adult’s logical response?
At some point it no longer matters who started what, who said what to whom, who poked whom in the eye with a stick on this particular occasion. It is obvious that the two groups are not capable of living in peace, and all of the children -not just one - are removed from the playground.
Sorry Shawn, logic does suggest that removing these particular children from this particular playground will, in fact, eliminate the never-ending bickering.
History of the last fifty years is interesting, history of the last five thousand years is enlightning.
August 1st, 2006 at 3:04 pm
Poor Mel Gibson. Had he said slurs about Arab’s he’d only have to apologize once. Cause that’s how long america givin a crap would last. It’s okay Mel! This is the birth pangs of a new more powerful Jewish Media! Take one for the team puppet. (you know the drill, apologize, grovel on and on) Long Live Freedom Of Speech!
August 1st, 2006 at 3:17 pm
Like I stated before…you can’t debate with ignorance. Do an internet search you’ll get information from any wacko with access to a computer. Why don’t you try a book, that’s logic. Children are taught violence never solves anything, something our leaders forgot all about.
August 1st, 2006 at 3:48 pm
I am ashamed for Polish government. How come the most of UE countries got to that terrifying point of accepting aggression? Not only accepting, though… I do not stand for Israel. I stand for Lebanon. May God be with you…
August 1st, 2006 at 4:05 pm
She is entirely right about that one Shawn. You cannot argue with ignorance…er..I mean logic…er no …ignorance…I mean logic …no, ignorance…..oh well whatever.
So do not bother Shawn.
Silan Hakim: Yes, Yes, and Yes again.
Here Shawn:
Members of the opposition were quick to criticize Mr. Harper’s failure to demand an apology from the Israelis (about the UN deaths which included one Canadian). And they condemned the Conservative decision to side with Israel in the dispute, saying Canada has abandoned its traditional role of peace broker in the region.
“I think Canadians are justifiably very distressed about how Harper tossed in the towel on diplomacy from Day 1. He is basically just prepared to be on the other end of George Bush’s tether and essentially played no role whatsoever in pressing for a ceasefire that is desperately, desperately needed,” said Alexa McDonough, the NDP foreign affairs critic.
Furthermore, Alexa McDonough is tired of the stupid talk “the UN should not have been at their outpost in the first place” and she demands an investigation of the murders of these four men. She is sick of Harpers “Aye Aye Sir behavior with Bush.
Also she expresses outrage over these points:
• Bombing of the Palestinian Interior Ministry and other government offices:
• Arrest of duly elected Palestinian parliamentarians;
• Bombings of Palestinian infrastructure including a power station that was the sole generator of electricity and running water for hundreds of thousands of Gazans;
• Destruction of the Lebanese airport;
• Air and sea blockade of Lebanon preventing Lebanese as well as Canadian citizens, including many of my constituents, from returning to or leaving Lebanon; and
• Killing of scores of Palestinian and Lebanese civilians, including children.
Alexa McDonough
August 1st, 2006 at 4:15 pm
Is it ok for one country to call for the destruction of an entire race of people?
http://www.worldpress.org/Mideast/2170.cfm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1684472,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas
wiki has many pages of links if you are interested. Knowing how to recognize bias is a prerequisite to any discussion. In any event, if it is not acceptable for one country to call for the destruction of an entire country, then why is it acceptable for another country to do the same?
Is hate a valid response to hate? Please note my original messages said that I do not wish death or harm on anyone, and that logic suggests complete removal of all players who consistantly demonstrate an inability to live in peace with each other.
These two statements appear to be inconsistent with each other, and they are -up to the point at which one is willing to discontinue using emotion as a replacement for logic. Once you drop all forms of emotion as a basis for argument, only logic remains.
Please do not attribute more to my message than what I have stated.
For many years the jewish people did not have a soverign nation, and yet they were still persecuted. Therefore, there is no reason to suppose that removing the jews from isreal will halt either the hatred or the bloodshed. Only removing the bickering children from the playground will result in lasting peace.
August 1st, 2006 at 4:19 pm
“logic said, …
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
on August 1st, 2006 at 4:15 pm”
I am flattered. :)
August 1st, 2006 at 4:31 pm
Karen,
Thats great. I’m sure you saw my post where Senator Hagal called on Bush for an immediate cease fire. Israel knows the heat is on and world opinion is shifting. Unfortunatley I believe they are planning for an all out annihilation before the pendulum swings all the way over. It would be a typical Israeli move. I wish an American politician with words as strong as McDonough’s would speak out. But the truth is as I stated earlier too many politicians depend on the Jews to fund them for re-election.
August 1st, 2006 at 5:47 pm
To Dani & Matt
You want simple ……. Heres some real simple questions, that you both in all your wisdom and knowledge should have no trouble answering……..
If as your illustrious leader has claimed time and time and time and time and time again …… That the civillians they have murdered (you know all those littlechildren), have been a direct result of Hezballah hiding amongst them ……… Where pray tell are the bodies of these Hezballah fighters????????? Because surely a surgical hit (that accidently took the lives of innocent children) such as they keep claiming ….. There would have to have been 1 maybe 2 maybe even more Hezballah resistance fighters. And yet surprisingly not one Hezballah has been found amongst the carnage. Why do you think that would be????
Secondly someone needs to buy that murderer of innnocent children a watch ……. coz he doesnt seem to be able to keep track of a 48 promised ceasefire from the air. Oh!!! wait a minute that is when the ‘Kol Nidre’ comes in is it????????
Answer those two simple questions for the rest of us ignorant antisemetic jew bashers ……. I’lll even say please
August 1st, 2006 at 6:08 pm
Amethyst,
They can’t answer that because they are too busy in other sites telling others all the wonderful contributions Israel has made to the world.48 hr. Cease fire….what crock. I just saw Israel is launching a huge campaign in NE Lebanon, One Israeli commander said he’s never seen an Israeli air campaign so large in his life. So let me get this straight. Lebanese…get out of the south because we are going to bomb the hell out of you. Go north were you’ll be safe! What the f#&k kind of bulls*$t is that.? This is going to have some very bad results for the Lebanese. Israel is completely out of control!
August 1st, 2006 at 6:57 pm
Israeli soldiers pull a Palestinian man out of his vehicle and frisk him. The unarmed man is then handcuffed, laid on the ground, stripped, and then brutally executed. A Palestinian can be killed by Israeli soldiers in the middle of the street, even though he has surrendered.
National Vanguard
“The Shoah [the Hebrew word for the Holocaust] is frequently exploited in America and Israel to deflect and forbid any criticism of Israel. In fact, the Holocaust of Europe’s Jews is nowadays exploited thrice over: It gives American Jews in particular a unique retrospective victim identity; it allows Israel to trump any other nation’s sufferings and justify its own excesses with the claim that the Jewish catastrophe was unique and incomparable; and, in contradiction to the first two, it is adduced as an all-purpose metaphor for evil — anywhere, everywhere, and always — and taught to school children all over America and Europe without any reference to context or cause. This modern instrumentalization of the Holocaust for political advantage is ethically disreputable and politically imprudent.”
Tony Judt
Jewish Scholar and director of the Remarque Institute at New York University
The Nation
And there are many more Jewish voices who are saying this – God Bless Them.
May all the Blood, Tears, Suffering of Lebanon’s Dead and Living haunt the israeli army and government and all those who support it for the rest of their hateful lives.
August 1st, 2006 at 7:15 pm
To Shawn & Karen
The hate and ignorance of these debauched who come on a site dedicated to stopping the violence in Lebanon knows no boundries. They claim time and again that they dont condone the killing of innocent children, but insist on Israels right to fight and kill them because Hezballah is using them for shields. And then they state their regret at such murders. They claim they want PEACE to prevail, yet they support Israel use of violence against civillians and innocent children. They claim Israel has a right to exist on land that was stolen from the Palestinians, Lebanese and Syria. They claim Israel has a right to defend its ever growing borders …… but the Palestinians and the Labanese are terrorist for fighting to protect what is RIGHTFULLY THEIRS. They claim that we are supporters of Terrorism for wanting the Palestinians and Lebanese to live in PEACE on their own land. They claim that we are inciters of HATRED against the jews because we dare to speak the truth about these barbarians.
I will say this again ………. The state of Israel was stolen and built on the bones and bodies of innocent Arabs. The quasi jews are the ones that brought this violence to the Middle East.
Why if they are so scared of being out numbered by a majority Arab Nations in the area …. dont they cut their losses and piss off out of the Middle East where they clearly know that they have no right to be there and that no body wants them there. If PEACE is to come to the Middle East …… I srael needs to acknowledge its role in creating this carnage that only started when they claimed a right to land that they had no claim on.
And if you ignorant antagonizers believe Israels right ……. Then all the Arab nations need to do what the quasi jews are doing and advertise for all the Muslims in the world to come and populate and build up the Arab states so that they can lay claim to their “Holy Land”
Why you all have asked do we get so passionate in our replies, because we are out numbered by the jewish propaganda machine and we truely care that these innocent lives be spared from further violence … and then you quasi jews sit back and calmly state that these innocent children have died because Israel needs toprotect itself.
Ive never been a fan of Mel Gibson ……. but my heart goes out to him in this hour of Mel bashing being carried out by the offended jewish media. Have you ever heard of the term ….. sticks and stones will break my bones but names could never hurt me. Well apparently the jews havent, because they are still holding the world at ransom over the supposed Holacaust …….. Ooops i said a bad word.
August 1st, 2006 at 7:48 pm
Amethst said,
Why you all have asked do we get so passionate in our replies, because we are out numbered by the jewish propaganda machine and we truely care that these innocent lives be spared from further violence … and then you quasi jews sit back and calmly state that these innocent children have died because Israel needs to protect itself.
Amen sister!!!!!!!!!!
August 1st, 2006 at 8:16 pm
I’m from Argentina and I think this war (as all the others, of course) is taking the world to a place of no return. Lebanon is getting the worst part of all of this, so put up with this destruction and horror a bit more: GOD will be with you.
August 1st, 2006 at 8:45 pm
To Hafeezbeteezelislraliya
I hope you like the new name Ive given you, coz you are so far up there all you can see is the SH*T thats feed to you.
Why is it I am damning myslef by saying we have to name and shame these TRUE TERORIST. You dont hear me calling for bloodshed ….. but simply to expose the hypocrasy of the quasi jews and their puppet the US government.
I’ll be more than happy to explain to you what a quasi Jew is (I admit I made that term up) …… A quasi Jew are those that have no claim whatsoever to this so called ‘Promised Land’. The same Jews that went to the English government in 1916 with a deal to end all deals. The English had been abandoned by their allies because the Germans had pulvarised them and they were left to face the Germans alone. The German Jews (the same ones that Germany had given shelter to and supported and were allowed to build themselves very successfull business, finance and media) went to the English and told them not to take up the the PEACE agreement set out by the Germans (one that they were on the verge of accepting), because they can help them beat the Germans by bringing in the US to fight on their side. So the influential Jews in the US put pressure on their government to join this war that they had no quarrel in. It worked ….. the English accepted the Jews offer and the US joined the war and eventually they beat Germany. But as history has already told us Jews dont do anything for FREE. WHAT PRICE did the quasi jews want??? ……. the Deliverance of Palestine to them (these Jews whose ancestors had never set foot in “The Promised Land” and have no claim to it. Because the English had no right to promise them this land they drew up a complicated vaery specially worded document call ‘The Balfour Declaration’ which promised the land of PALESTINE to the quasi jews. Because the English couldnt just hand over Palestine as these quasi jews wanted they had to wait until the end of WW2 to fulfill this promise, which they didnt hesitate to do. Prior to the quasi jews theft of this land …. all jews and arabs in the region were living in peace with each other. YES the palestinians did then attack these jews ……. but why is it that they didmnt have the right to do this, they were stealing their land under the pretence of previous ownership. It wasnt until these jews were inflicted on the Palestinians that the real conflicts began in that region. Check you history books …….. the ones not written by the jews. The difference between the quasi jews as opposed to quasi muslims, is that these new converts to Islam have made no claim on Arab land that they have no right to. Imagine if the new breed of Islamist suddenly decided that they wanted to go back to the land were Mohammad was born. Would the world stand back and say that they have a right to exist in these lands. I DONT THINK SO. So why do these jews have the right to claim Palestine as their own ………….. Answer that one for me Hefeezebeteezelisrailiya??????
Which brings me to my next question about ‘Kol Nidre’ a prayer that the jews recite on their day of attonement (as if anything can attone their sins. The prayer in my own words goes something like this …… “For the next 12months, no promise I make is a promise, no oath I make is an oath, no pledge I make is a pledge” therefore in their eyes exhonerating them from any evil that they commit and any promises they make for peace or anything that they dont wish to take responsibility for. Like the statement that they will cease all air raids for 48hours to allow aid to get to those that need it and then what did they do …….. Did they keep their word? Lordy Lordy Lordy thay did not, they continued to drop bombs on Lebanon and then increased their land attacks. That how much the jews mean what they say.
I cannot answer the question about Dani being a real jew or a quasi jew, coz only she/he can answer that one. But you do get my drift in asking that question.
Dani asked:
Still waiting for an answer - what is so hard to understand - if Hezbollah is so interested in humanity and helping those who are suffering, why don’t thry agree to stop firing rockets into Israel for 72 hours so that aid can reach those that need it and the innocent civilians in the south can be evacuated safely. My answer to that would be is that if Israel were truely a rightous state as opposed to the immoral Hezballah, and considering that they are the ones destroying more innocents in this carnage, WHY CANT THEY TAKE THE HIGH ROAD and COMMIT to a ceasefire. Because if you to have us believe that Israel has got the higher moral ground in this, they should show the world the magnanomous nature and call a REAL CEASEFIRE. If you have any other questions you’d ike me to respond to……. please feel free to ask
Hafeez
Your OWN words below will come back to haunt you …………… Because you are talking about yourself and those that believe as you do.
Hafeez has said:
And that so many of you so readily believe such bullshit is clearly indicative of the worth of any other “analysis” you use to justify the rest of your hate-filled and racist (and dangerous) nonsense.
Oh and By the By …….. Israel and its puppet nation America (for it is the Jews that control that country) have repeatedly tried to implicate Iran and Syria in this attack on Lebanon. Of that I have no knowledge or facts. But if the US is allowed to provide sophisticated weaponry to the Terrorist State of Israel, then why is it that Hezballah cannot source its weapons and training from these countries. Oh, thats right they are all Terrorist ………… and Israel and the US are here to save us with their NEW WORLD ORDER.
Close your eyes and ears to the TRUTH and you will continually fed BS, but you’ve grown so accustomed to the taste, that it no longer bothers you. Bon appetite
August 2nd, 2006 at 12:07 am
Damn!…I’m sick of seeing this kind of things all over the world…will it never end?
August 2nd, 2006 at 12:31 am
casualties from the isreali side are more of military figures,other few buildings and or cars…very low number of “innocents”. whereas in lebanon mostly innocents and very few hisballa armed men. isreal cant get the number of HA casualties right..they claim that H.A isnt releasing the correct #….Hisballa is never afraid but rather proud to release any H.A soldiers killed. they’re considered martyrs and releasing the numbers wounded or killed is a form of respect. unlike isreal or america, there always afraid of damaging their citizens moral..HA!!! what a joke the live in denial and on land achieved by spilled blood of arabs.
As for those that say isreal left leb in 2000 on the condition to have the leb government strip H.A from their weapons… they had to leave under UN policy and nowhere was there a condition for the leb government to act mentioned.
Then there’s the isreali government claiming that medicine and relief supplies arent getting to those in southern leb because of H.A not ceasing to fire? THERE MISSILES ARE TARGETED TOWARDS NORTHERN ISREAL!!! not there own ppl.
just comes to show u how gullible the western media observers are.
The way Hisballa is facing a big state supported by an even bigger state without backing down and amidst having lost so many of lebanes innocents..BOGGLES the western worlds mind!!! Good !!! some things arent for u to understand!! But i will somewhat inlighten u, Hisballa is a believer in ALLAH. and so are there supporters,losing loved ones is a bitter sweet reality.those that died will be missed and mourned but they have been rescued.
An isreali military spokes person said:i quote ” we are fighting against an army of ghosts” unquote
Isreal has no clue from where they are being attacked, so they blindly respond committing major war crimes that even they cant justify…they say oops and hope the world still sees them as victims in all this!!
other muslim leaders are cowards to face isreal and the US, so Hisballa is doing the work for them.
other muslim leaders are a waste of skin,sorry ass excuses for human beings and so are those opposing Hisballas stand in all this.
ALLAH YAHMY AL MAQAWAMAA, WA YALAAN AL kUFAR!! AMEN!!!
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August 2nd, 2006 at 2:01 am
Again, I say to all who Support the Israeli governments fight against terror. What a lota crap.
You must really be a moron idiotic blind fool hafezz. It’s RK7 you fool!! But AK47 is what you like so you can have it. It’s an AK47 for peace and truth dick head!!
The truth is something that is etched in the minds of the Children who have seen there Moms and Dads die and there homes and villages blown up at the Israeli government&armys evil distructive mission.
we speak the truth for what it is!! Not what the media machine and the like show!!
And to my friends who who support the peace that Lebanon has been denied and is starving for. I love your passion!
Long live Lebanon!
Long live beautiful Lebanon!
August 2nd, 2006 at 2:22 am
Read on at the role of Israelis in the great U.S of A…
Some more truth!! Oh did I say truth!!
The Shame of Being an American
by Paul Craig Roberts
Gentle reader, do you know that Israel is engaged in ethnic cleansing in southern Lebanon? Israel has ordered all the villagers to clear out. Israel then destroys their homes and murders the fleeing villagers. That way there is no one to come back and nothing to which to return, making it easier for Israel to grab the territory, just as Israel has been stealing Palestine from the Palestinians.
Do you know that one-third of the Lebanese civilians murdered by Israel’s attacks on civilian residential districts are children? That is the report from Jan Egeland, the emergency relief coordinator for the UN. He says it is impossible for help to reach the wounded and those buried in rubble, because Israeli air strikes have blown up all the bridges and roads. Considering how often (almost always) Israel misses Hezbollah targets and hits civilian ones, one might think that Israeli fire is being guided by US satellites and US military GPS. Don’t be surprised at US complicity. Why would the puppet be any less evil than the puppet master?
Of course, you don’t know these things, because the US print and TV media do not report them.
Because Bush is so proud of himself, you do know that he has blocked every effort to stop the Israeli slaughter of Lebanese civilians. Bush has told the UN “NO.” Bush has told the European Union “NO.” Bush has told the pro-American Lebanese prime minister “NO.” Twice. Bush is very proud of his firmness. He is enjoying Israel’s rampage and wishes he could do the same thing in Iraq.
Does it make you a Proud American that “your” president gave Israel the green light to drop bombs on convoys of villagers fleeing from Israeli shelling, on residential neighborhoods in the capital of Beirut and throughout Lebanon, on hospitals, on power plants, on food production and storage, on ports, on civilian airports, on bridges, on roads, on every piece of infrastructure on which civilized life depends? Are you a Proud American? Or are you an Israeli puppet?
On July 20, “your” House of Representatives voted 410-8 in favor of Israel’s massive war crimes in Lebanon. Not content with making every American complicit in war crimes, “your” House of Representatives, according to the Associated Press, also “condemns enemies of the Jewish state.”
Who are the “enemies of the Jewish state”?
They are the Palestinians whose land has been stolen by the Jewish state, whose homes and olive groves have been destroyed by the Jewish state, whose children have been shot down in the streets by the Jewish state, whose women have been abused by the Jewish state. They are Palestinians who have been walled off into ghettos, who cannot reach their farm lands or medical care or schools, who cannot drive on roads through Palestine that have been constructed for Israelis only. They are Palestinians whose ancient towns have been invaded by militant Zionist “settlers” under the protection of the Israeli army who beat and persecute the Palestinians and drive them out of their towns. They are Palestinians who cannot allow their children outside their homes because they will be murdered by Israeli “settlers.”
The Palestinians who confront Israeli evil are called “terrorists.” When Bush forced free elections on Palestine, the people voted for Hamas. Hamas is the organization that has stood up to Israel. This means, of course, that Hamas is evil, anti-Semitic, un-American and terrorist. The US and Israel responded by cutting off all funds to the new government. Democracy is permitted only if it produces the results Bush and Israel want.
Israelis never practice terror. Only those who are in Israel’s way are terrorists.
Another enemy of the Jewish state is Hezbollah. Hezbollah is a militia of Shi’ite Muslims created in 1982 when Israel first invaded Lebanon. During this invasion the great moral Jewish state arranged for the murder of refugees in refugee camps. The result of Israel’s atrocities was Hezbollah, which fought the Israeli Army, defeated it, and drove it out of Lebanon. Today Hezbollah not only defends southern Lebanon but also provides social services such as orphanages and medical care.
To cut to the chase, the enemies of the Jewish state are any Muslim country not ruled by an American puppet friendly to Israel. Egypt, Jordan, and the oil emirates have sided with Israel against their own kind, because they are dependent either on American money or on American protection from their own people. Sooner or later these totally corrupt governments that do not represent the people they rule will be overthrown. It is only a matter of time.
Indeed Bush and Israel may be hastening the process in their frantic effort to overthrow the governments of Syria and Iran. Both governments have more popular support than Bush has, but the White House Moron doesn’t know this. The Moron thinks Syria and Iran will be “cakewalks” like Iraq, where ten proud divisions of the US military are tied down by a few lightly armed insurgents.
If you are still a Proud American, consider that your pride is doing nothing good for Israel or for America .
On July 20 when “your” House of Representatives, following “your” US Senate, passed the resolution in support of Israel’s war crimes, the most powerful lobby in Washington, the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), quickly got out a press release proclaiming “The American people overwhelming support Israel’s war on terrorism and understand that we must stand by our closest ally in this time of crisis.”
The truth is that Israel created the crisis by invading a country with a pro-American government. The truth is that the American people do not support Israel’s war crimes, as the CNN quick poll results make clear and as was made clear by callers into C-Span.
Despite the Israeli spin on news provided by US “reporting,” a majority of Americans do not approve of Israeli atrocities against Lebanese civilians. Hezbollah is located in southern Lebanon. If Israel is targeting Hezbollah, why are Israeli bombs falling on northern Lebanon? Why are they falling on Beirut? Why are they falling on civilian airports? On schools and hospitals?
Now we arrive at the main point. When the US Senate and House of Representatives pass resolutions in support of Israeli war crimes and condemn those who resist Israeli aggression, the Senate and House confirm Osama bin Laden’s propaganda that America stands with Israel against the Arab and Muslim world.
Indeed, Israel, which has one of the world’s largest per capita incomes, is the largest recipient of US foreign aid. Many believe that much of this “aid” comes back to AIPAC, which uses it to elect “our” representatives in Congress.
This perception is no favor to Israel, whose population is declining, as the smart ones have seen the writing on the wall and have been leaving. Israel is surrounded by hundreds of millions of Muslims who are being turned into enemies of Israel by Israel’s actions and inhumane policies.
The hope in the Muslim world has always been that the United States would intervene in behalf of compromise and make Israel realize that Israel cannot steal Palestine and turn every Palestinian into a refugee.
This has been the hope of the Arab world. This is the reason our puppets have not been overthrown. This hope is the reason America still had some prestige in the Arab world.
The House of Representatives resolution, bought and paid for by AIPAC money, is the final nail in the coffin of American prestige in the Middle East. It shows that America is, indeed, Israel’s puppet, just as Osama bin Laden says, and as a majority of Muslims believe.
With hope and diplomacy dead, henceforth America and Israel have only tooth and claw. The vaunted Israeli army could not defeat a rag tag militia in southern Lebanon. The vaunted US military cannot defeat a rag tag, lightly armed insurgency drawn from a minority of the population in Iraq, insurgents, moreover, who are mainly engaged in civil war against the Shi’ite majority.
What will the US and its puppet master do? Both are too full of hubris and paranoia to admit their terrible mistakes. Israel and the US will either destroy from the air the civilian infrastructure of Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, and Iran so that civilized life becomes impossible for Muslims, or the US and Israel will use nuclear weapons to intimidate Muslims into acquiescence to Israel’s desires.
Muslim genocide in one form or another is the professed goal of the neoconservatives who have total control over the Bush administration. Neocon godfather Norman Podhoretz has called for World War IV (in neocon thinking WW III was the Cold War) to overthrow Islam in the Middle East, deracinate the Islamic religion and turn it into a formalized, secular ritual.
Rumsfeld’s neocon Pentagon has drafted new US war doctrine that permits pre-emptive nuclear attack on non-nuclear states.
Neocon David Horowitz says that by slaughtering Palestinian and Lebanese civilians, “Israel is doing the work of the rest of the civilized world,” thus equating war criminals with civilized men.
Neocon Larry Kudlow says that “Israel is doing the Lord’s work” by murdering Lebanese, a claim that should give pause to Israel’s Christian evangelical supporters. Where does the Lord Jesus say, “go forth and murder your neighbors so that you may steal their lands”?
The complicity of the American public in these heinous crimes will damn America for all time in history.
August 2nd, 2006 at 2:43 am
Ah AK47 - I see you keep reloading with DUM DUM bullets.
Its a pity you and your friends can’t find a way to channel just 10% of your hate for Israel and Jews into something positive.
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:34 am
DANI DANI DANI
I realy am getting quite sickof you mopeing about here talking about our hate for the Jews ……. What do you expect dear, this site is called after all STOP DESTROYING LEBANON. If you dont like it ….. as Ive already said PissOff. Oooooops am I being vulgar again.
The words of Paul Craig Roberts above (Thanks RK7 for sharing them with us) are the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth, but you seem to have a problem with the truth. When is a TRUTH not a TRUTH …… when its uttered by a Jew (quasi tha tis lol). When is a LIE the TRUTH when its explained by someone who doesnt have a Jewish agenda.
Why cant YOUR TERRORIST GOVERNMENT & ARMY show us the bodies and spent shells of this Hizballah it is TARGETING in CIVILLIAN TOWNS. How come all the UN has been able to find are the blown up, blown apart bodies of mostly children. Where are these Terrorist that are using these poor people as sheilds. WHERE DANI WHERE??????
Ahhhhh! Silly us havent we been told that these terrorist are recruiting children to do their dirty work ……. I guess someone should tell them that these children would better serve them if at the very least they are allowed to be born. KEEP LOOKING AT THE SECOND LAST IMAGE ABOVE DANI & TELL ME ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT!!!!!!
It truely makes me sick to my stomach that anybody with a conscience can look at these images and still believe in Israels RIGHT. that is beyond tragic.
ISRAEL HAS NEVER HAD A RIGHT TO BE A STATE IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND IT CERTAINLY DOESNT HAVE THE RIGHT TO KILL INNOCENT CHILDREN. AND IT CERTAINLY DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHTTO EXPECT ME TO SUPPORT ANYTHING IT DOES.
ISRAEL AND THE US ARE THE TRUE TERRORIST NATIONS
WHEN IT COMES THEIR TIME MAY THEY HAVE REVISITED UPON THEM THE SUFFERING THEY HAVE CAUSED EVERYWHERE.
Just so as you know this Dani, I was supportive of a state of Israel (even though it was stolen) before this carnage began ……. but Ive been doing some homework and have unearthed some scarey stuff, oh yeah … anti semetic you may call it, but to the rest of us (unafraid of your power and might) prefer to call it the TRUTH.
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:37 am
Thanks Amethyst - but what do you really think and believe ???
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:30 am
For anyone living in Australia Watch SBS WORLD NEWS tonight at 9.30pm 2nd August …………….. And see the “CARNAGE” that Hezballah has reigned down on the city of Haifa with its deadly missiles. And if you miss it Im sure you can access it via the net, I would say that would also go for those living outside of Australia as well.
DANI
I suggest you watch it too and then come back here and tell us ANTISEMETIC’s that Israel is the victim, has always been the victim and it has a Right. You misguided loyalty to this terrorist state is blinding you to the TRUTH.
And one more time for the dummy (you sure sound well imformed, but you are soooooooo DUMB)
What I think is that Israel should piss off out of the middle east, let the Americans give these ‘poor’ (lol) quasi jews a home seeing as how they love them so much. I think you should piss off and go join them.
And I believe that the Israelie and its puppet the US government are THE ONLY TERRORIST on this earth ….. They are constantly using brute force, intimidation, brute force, blackmail, brute force to enslave or kill anyone standing in the way of their “NEW WORLD ORDER”. That title alone should scare the crap out anyone with half a brain. But I guess if you believe in their bullshit ……. you dont even have half a brain.
There does that clarify things for you Dani
And I would like you to clarigy two things for me ……. If you please
Where is Israels proof that Hezballah is using civillians as sheilds. How many Hezballah bodies and missile launchers, or at the very least spent ammo shells have been found amonst the torn apart bodies of young children and old mothers and fathers.?????????? WHERE ARE THEY DANI WHERE?
Secondly do you also pray the “KOL NIDRE”
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
August 2nd, 2006 at 6:31 am
Stop destroying lebanon you cowards.
Air attacks against such a small group of freedom fighters with with BIG HEARTS and more DIGNITY than you can ever buy with you blood money!!
With all your US backed fire power,planes tanks, the best of weapons… Yet still you cant hide the truth or defeat the truth.Never in a all of eternity!! LOL…
Now go away you small weak dick head. Go you not wanted here!!! LOL…
Your all cowards, cowards to the truth.
Long live Lebanon.
August 2nd, 2006 at 6:49 am
The entire world has to constantly hear about jewish suffering during WW 2 . It is very little compared to the entire worlds sacrifice of men and women and children who endured, fought bravely , and died . You hear so so so much about the poor jews in WW2. Many jews were just worried about hiding their money. The jews were so rich they could have had a great resistance instead of playing so useless while others scrambled and fought tooth and nail from countless countries and backgrounds. But it seems now the next generation finds it very easy to fight against people they made poor and defensless who do not have an army and do not want world domination. Now the jews are brave…….it seems they have it all backwards except for one thing, they still have their money and diamonds
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:04 am
dani you dick head, I have said before I am completely against The Israeli army and the govrenments destructive disregard for human life.
How you choose to forget the dead women and children!!!!!!
Is this to much truth to accept you complete F&%K head.
Now go way clown.
Long live Lebanon.
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:04 am
Ha! I see you are all so quick to embrace Mel Gibson as a fellow jew-basher.
You do know, of course, that he is one of the strongest and most vocal supporters of the bushite war on iraq?
But then again it is not really strange to see that racists make such fine bedmates…
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:08 am
AK47 - Freedom Fighters ??? Doesn’t seem like they are bringing much freedom to the people of Lebanon - only death and destruction it seems to me.
ww2 - ah, another closet anti-semite out in the open. You’ve got plenty of friends here.
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:11 am
AK47 - and what about the civilian dead and wounded in Israel at the hands of your feedom fighters shooting katyushas indiscriminately ?
I haven’t forgotten about the death and destruction on BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER and I also haven’t forgotten how it could have been avoided but for the brave actions of Hezbollah.
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:13 am
Antisemite my ass…LOL…. Go away you insect!!
Long live Lebanon.
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:15 am
ww2, thank you. Peace to you.
Long live Lebanon.
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:33 am
gosh darn and golly gee, toto! i don’t think we’re in kansas anymore!
we were off to see the wizard about helping those poor womens and chilluns from the great state of alebanonia, but it looks like we has gone and stumbled upon a grand ole meeting of the KKK.
or maybe el K-duh; it certainly aint no K-mart here.
no, no, it must be the KKK. theys quoting the very same “authorities” and “scholars” that they always do.
they do know, don’t they, that once they’ve done stringing up all the dumb jews, they’ll start in on all them blacks, all them ayrabs, all them non-decent “folks” not pure lily-white?
they do know, don’t they, that the holy land of amerika is ordained by god only for the white, christian, race?
hmmm, those people sure do look funny in their white robes and caps!!
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:34 am
RK7
Peace to you also and peace to Lebanon and Palestine and all countries that are bullied. I know you are not anti-semite and neither am I. But I must admit I was pretty direct and do not want to come across so direspectful to anyone,countless innocent jewish people suffered greatly during world war 2 also, but that was not my point. I just felt being more direct when I have seen the constant crap coming from these people trying to justify Israeli actions. It is a sad world that lets Israel do this, reminds me of terrible things the nazi mentality accomplished.
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:40 am
Jewish Holocaust Lebanon
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:42 am
Long Live Lebanon, beautiful Lebanon. May all the lost lives rest in peace.
Long live Lebanon.
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:57 am
Thanks to WW2 and all who speak the truth. May peace be with you always
Long live Lebanon.
August 2nd, 2006 at 8:02 am
With so many of you calling (under whatever pretext) for the annihilation of Israel and perhaps all the jews in the world, you then have the nerve to wonder why they might think they have some small need to defend themselves?
What chutzpah!!!
And have you noticed (here and in the “outside” world) that those who most often bring up the holocaust are not jews or their sympathizers, but rather those who “demand” the right to question it.
Well, go right ahead, no one is stopping you, you can do this alongside your research into the loch ness monster, in ufos and aliens; perhaps you can discuss all this with Elvis once you’ve located his whereabouts.
And Karen and others, who seem to think that Noam Chomsky might be your champion, there is, perhaps, a few elementary things you should know about him.
He believes the holocaust perhaps the greatest orgy of insanity ever perpetrated on humanity.
He believes that to even engage in any type of debate or dicussion over the historical “merits” of these events is to give up some moral highground, and that the proper course is to let the absurdity and complete ridiculousness of their “position” to speak for themselves (that means you, karen).
Also, he has also always identified himself very strongly as a zionist, even once planned on living permanently in Israel.
What he, and many other zionists, desired was a bi-national state that would include all of the former palestine, and would have a socialist government, run by the workers, and completely secular.
That he is unrelenting in his criticism of the Israeli government and many of its policies is undeniable and, I consider, proper.
But he is just as ruthless (that’s my favourite word) in his condemnation of many of those you would support, i.e. almost all of the factions, militant or otherwise, that are players in the middle-east and elsewhere.
This almost completely impartial attitude is one of his greatest strengths, and has made him enemies on all sides.
But it is this attitude that is most worthy of respect, and most likely to achieve any worthwhile results.
August 2nd, 2006 at 8:11 am
The one question people seem to be asking is “How do we solve this problem?” So here is your answer.
1. Israel must cease fire immediately and withdraw from Gaza and Lebanon.
2. Isreal must release the 7500 Arab prisoners they hold without merit and allow them to return to their countries.
In return Hezbollah and Hamas will return the 3 soldiers taken hostage.
3. Israel must hold new elections to replace the current administration of Jewish terrorists.
In return Hamas and Hezbollah will agree to a complete cease fire of violence against the Jews.
4. The new Israeli administration must call the leaders of all the middle eastern countries to a special conference. There they can ask….no beg for forgiveness for the atrocities they have committed against the Arab population. (The Germans had to suck it up and admit they were wrong, so too can the Israeli’s if for one minute they can stop being so arrogant)
5. Then Israel can begin to tackle the issue of the 65 U.N. resolutions they have pending against them to include their unlawful occupation of Palestine.
6. Lastly they must tear down that stupid ass wall they built.
Then there will be peace in the middle east!
August 2nd, 2006 at 8:55 am
Israelitas……Uds. que se autoproclaman el “pueblo elegido de Dios” detengan el holocausto que llevan adelante en contra del pueblo Palestino y Libanes……..ONU Detengan el abuso de poder de Israel!!!!…….USA: su silencio los convierte en complices del asesinato de civiles inocentes……
August 2nd, 2006 at 9:38 am
There’s a missing point wandering around.
Some opinions here are well clear enough, such as Amethyst’s. But I think she missed a point even in the point she did pretty well explain. Media controls the repercution of the informations about each and every conflict since WWII (theory developed there called Bullet Theory). Well, since the mass media is largelly controlled by jews and jews protect Israel, we can only expect brainwash. And to those brainwashed ‘washed’ ashore this site, we can only pitty them and expect one day they will get past this necessity of being right and informed more than thinking by themselves. So, not only we HAVE TO declare our outrage at the despicable acts of war Israel is making, but having patience with those corrupted by lies.
People like these always makes remember Puck’s line to Oberon in shakespeare’s Midsummer Night Dreams: “Oh, Lord! What fools these mortal’s be”.
Let’s remember to be patience with the unimformed and with the egomaniacs. Enlightenment is the teachings of the well-informed partaking with the human sensitivity; shinning new perspectivities at oblique minds..
August 2nd, 2006 at 10:08 am
An hipothetical situation..
If, let’s say, five bank robers, heavy armed, steal a bank in Canada, near the frontier with USA, cross the frontier and then are pull-overed by USA police, respond fire killing two cops and whoever authorities come up.. Then USA has the right to attack Canada because Canada ‘obviously’ can’t handle their problems???..
and there’s another funny fact.. USA get on the rush of war, attack Paquistan, then with no reason attacks a country so demolished and on about ten years of economic block.. Then the ally of USA, the State of Israel, decides to attack Lebannon and there’s already talks about attacking Syria and Iran.. i think there will be peace in middle east only when their culture be composed of britney spears, harley davidson and corrupt-selfish politians.. And, blue eyed people..
The fastest way to destroy middle-east culture and rape their soil (minerals), is to forcefully ‘offering’ them capitalism disguised as democracy..
August 2nd, 2006 at 10:51 am
Cristo,
Que calamidade, quanto crueldade da humanidade! Tamanha ignorância daqueles que não percebem a destruição que proliferando para o mundo.
Tô chocada, alarmada, indignada. Meus Deus, está tão presente na nossa vida, tão perto. Não consigo representar através de palavras meus sentimentos nesse momento.
August 2nd, 2006 at 12:30 pm
1. Did you know that non-Jewish Israelis cannot buy or lease land in Israel? A Jew from any country in the world is guaranteed citizenship in Israel, while the Palestinians who have been there for centuries are oppressed and persecuted.
2. Did you know that instead of sewing an insignia on clothing to distinguish race (like the Germans did to the Jews before WW2), Palestinian license plates in Israel are color coded to distinguish Jews from non-Jews?
3. Did you know that East Jerusalem, the West Bank, Gaza, and the Golan Heights are all considered by the entire world community, including the United States and the United Nations, to be occupied territory and NOT part of the State of Israel?
4. Did you know that Israel allots 85f the water resources for Jews, and the remaining 15s divided among all Palestinians in the territories? For example in Hebron, 85f the water is set aside for about 400 Jewish settlers, while the remaining 15s distributed among Hebron’s 120, 000 Palestinians?
5. Did you know that the United States awards Israel $5 billion in aid each year from American tax dollars?
6. Did you know that US aid to Israel ($3.0 billion annually) exceeds the aid the US grants to the entire African continent? This aid is used both to buy American weaponry and to buy arms made in Israel.
7. Did you know that Israel is awaiting an additional $4 billion worth of American military hardware, including new F-16s and Apache and Blackhawk helicopters. As Israel’s main ally and supporter internationally, the United States is committed to maintaining the Jewish state’s “qualitative edge” in weapons over its neighbors.
8. Did you know that the U.S. administration has notified Congress on numerous occasions that Israel has violated the rules on how US-supplied weapons are used? (In 1978, 1979 and 1982 during fighting in Lebanon, and once after Israel’s bombing of an Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981.)
9. Did you know that Israel is the only country in the Middle East that refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections from its sites?
10. Did you know that high-ranking military officers in the Israeli Defense Forces have admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war have been summarily executed by the Israeli forces?
11. Did you know that Israel blew up an American diplomatic facility in Egypt and attacked a US warship in international waters (the USS Liberty), killing 33 and wounding 177 American sailors and the US did nothing about it?
12. Did you know that Israel stands in defiance of 69 United Nations Security Council Resolutions?
13. Did you know that Israel is explicitly dedicated to the policy of maintaining a distinct Jewish character?
14. Did you know that Israel’s current Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, was found by an Israeli court to be “personally and directly responsible” for the Sabra and Shatilla massacre in Lebanon where more than a thousand innocent Palestinian men, women, and children were axed to death or lined up and shot in cold blood?
15. Did you know that on May 20, 1990, a group of unarmed Palestinian laborers were lined up and murdered by an Israeli solider as they sat waiting for transportation back to Gaza? The terrified laborers who gathered in an area of southern Israel known as Rishon Lezion (known to Palestinians by its Arabic name Oyon Qara) handed their ID cards to the Israeli soldier. The soldiers ordered the distressed laborers to kneel down and face the ground and unexpectedly showered them with a barrage of bullets, killing seven and wounding many others. Needless to say, the soldier was not charged with any crime.
16. Did you know that until as recently as 1988, Israelis were permitted to run “Jews Only” job ads?
17. Did you know that the Israeli Foreign Ministry pays six US public relations firms to promote a “positive image” of Israel to the American public?
18. Did you know that Sharon’s coalition government includes a party–Molodet–which advocates ethnic cleansing by openly calling for the forced expulsion of all Palestinians from the occupied territories?
19. Did you know that recently-declassified documents indicate that David Ben-Gurion approved of the forced expulsion of Arabs from all Palestininan territory in 1948?
20. Did you know that the former chief rabbi of Israel, Rabbi Ovadia Yossef, who is also a founder and spiritual leader of the religious Shas party (Israel’s third largest political party) openly advocates a ‘Final Solution’ to annihilate the Palestinians? Speaking at the widely broadcast sermon marking the last Passover, he declared of the Palestinians: “The Lord shall return their deeds on their own heads, waste their seed and exterminate them, devastate them and vanish them from this world. It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable.”
21. Did you know that Palestinian refugees make up the largest portion of the refugee population in the world?
22. Did you know that Palestinian Christians are considered the “living stones” of Christianity because they are the direct descendants of the disciples of Jesus Christ? And the Palestinian Christians stand united with their Muslim brethren in the struggle against the Israeli occupation.
23. Did you know that despite a ban on torture by Israel’s High Court of Justice, torture has continued unabated by Shin Bet interrogators on Palestinian prisoners?
24. Did you know that despite every Israeli attempt to disrupt Palestinian education, Palestinians have the highest ratio of PhDs per capita in the world?
25. Did you know that the right of self-determination is guaranteed to every human being under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights [December, 1948], yet Palestinians were/are expected to negotiate for this right under the Oslo Accords?
26. Did you know that despite what is widely perpetuated and written in the history books that the Arabs attacked Israel in the 1967 war, it was Israel who attacked the Arab countries first, capturing Jerusalem and the West Bank, and called the attack a pre-emptive strike?
27. Did you know that, as an occupying power, Israel has a particular responsibility under the Geneva Conventions to protect Palestinian civilians?
28. Did you know that, despite Ariel Sharon’s public call for a unilateral ceasefire, Israeli soldiers have not stopped shooting, killing or bulldozing Palestinian homes? The most recent example of this is the murder of three innocent women who were shot by an Israeli tank as they sat in their tent!
29. Did you know that the Zionists have been trying to destroy Masjid al-Aqsa and the Dome of the Rock for the last 50 years by digging underground tunnels beneath the sites to weaken its foundation causing it to collapse?
30) Nelson Mandela called the Israeli government an apartheid regime, just like South Africa used to be
August 2nd, 2006 at 12:35 pm
Lebanese kill their own child’s.
Long live Israel.
August 2nd, 2006 at 12:39 pm
Joaquim from Portugal said,
on August 2nd, 2006 at 12:35 pm
Lebanese kill their own child’s.
Long live Israel
Congratulations! You have got to be the biggest idiot I’ve ever known of.
August 2nd, 2006 at 12:54 pm
Silan,
90% of the information you posted is in the previous posts. But people need to be reminded daily because as you can see there are a lot of people in serious denial and refuse to admit the brutality of the Israeli government.
August 2nd, 2006 at 1:01 pm
The war on Lebanon is only a small element in the bigger picture. In the Bible it says that when the temple of solomon is rebuilt it will be the beginning of the end. Israel already has plans to rebuild it. They will be targeted by christians and believers from all around the world and it will ultimately be destroyed. No one can get away with killing so many people and not have it come back to them 10 fold.
Patience.
August 2nd, 2006 at 1:12 pm
no ho no parole.
israel america sono terroristi,
posso usare le foto per il publico italiano.
grazie
August 2nd, 2006 at 2:24 pm
It seems strange that the war started over the kidnapping of the two israeli soldiers, but no one seems to talk about them anymore. Did the Israeli government forget about them? Is it possible that they died by one of their own bombs? were they considered casualty of war? how come theres no heart-breaking story on them on CNN? Does this mean that the Israeli government didnt really care about them to begin with? or does it mean that it actually never happened and was just a stage show?
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if there is a hell after this life i wish i go to it, just so i can see all power hungry politicians burn it. I wanna see them burn like lebanon is burning, i wanna see them starve like africa is starving, i wanna see them cry like the mother of a dead American soldier is crying and i want to see them feel hopeless like i am feeling right now!
August 2nd, 2006 at 3:21 pm
Where have all of you been when arabs killed 30.000 Somalis christians in 2004? Africans are the most poor and miserable people in the World.
Where have all of you been when Jordanian king killed 20.000 “Palestinians” in 1970?
Where have all of you been when Sadam Hussein killed 5.000 Kurds by chemical weapons in 1988? He is big hero of double-faced islamic world.
The Lebanons have elected the Hisbolla to their parlament.
The German elected Hitler as the prime minister in 1933. The Germans have lost millions on WW2, 2 millions of their women were been raped by Russian soldiers. And this people understood how to live on the World.
Now the Lebanons are been punished for their preference a war you’ve get it. So, dont cry
August 2nd, 2006 at 3:28 pm
I´m Brazilian and live so far from war .. but I feel .. really do , stop war .. there is no holy war for any side ! stop killing each other ! stop rate ! no more blood , no more death . God´s judgement will come soon over you !!! this is a political war killing people … children , women all inocents kind .. so stop killing as soon as you can , or it will become to late ..
God is crying … just like the rain …
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:06 pm
if there were no borders, no flags, no nationality, no religion would there still be something left to fight about? What is worth more, my identity or my life? neither exists without the other one does it? is that why there has always been and always will be wars going on? can someone answer me, im confused!
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:22 pm
Zionist you need to tell this more to the Jewish people then to me. They can’t seem to understand that every nation of people have suffered other than just them. They are quick to remind me of this everyday. Also don’t be so quick to judge. I am a VERY active person speaking out against was is happening in Sudan. A country now going through so much which I noticed you have failed to mention. I don’t know where you hail from but I know that the Lebanese people love their country. Also remember not all Lebanese people are Muslim but all Lebanese people have a bond to Lebanon which no Jewish signed bomb can destroy.
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:46 pm
In God we trust in peace we talk, The good will preveal the evil will perish.
Good people of God in the land of Israel ,wake up and stop the atrocities .
We trust in peace not in war.
God is in the path of the believers , christians, jews , and Muslims.
Stop the war on the children.
For the day of justice , no place for evil in paradise.
Angels of god crying above the sky of my beloved country
Lebanon
August 2nd, 2006 at 5:50 pm
To Fabiano & SiIan Hakim and all wo know the TRUTH
May you never have to feel the evil hand of these terrorist on your loved ones. Thank you for your understanding of a very real EVIL power corruptiong the world with its pretence at rightousness.
To Zionist and Joaquim and Dani and Hafeezbeteezelisrailia and all who feed on BS daily
May you always have the blood of innocents staining you life and invading your dreams. When the TRUTH comes out and it surely will …….. May you never find the peace of mind you seek, because of your compliance with the devil nations that are still calling this attrocity RIGHT and FAIR. If you choose to bury your head in these RACIST governments’ BS, you deserve it….. Kaliore Rexi
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
August 2nd, 2006 at 6:18 pm
It is hard to believe that it is true…
I have no words to express my sadness about all it…
August 2nd, 2006 at 6:30 pm
Silan,
You wrote this…
17. Did you know that the Israeli Foreign Ministry pays six US public relations firms to promote a “positive image” of Israel to the American public?
Did you also know the Israeli government has ordered 2000 IDF members since the start of this current slaughter to flood the internet and try to convince you, me and the rest of the world what their doing is right and just. Now you understand why Zionist and others like him are here at a site dedicated to the people of Lebanon.
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:05 pm
I think first of all, i think Lebanonese government itself should take the responsibility for allowing hizbollah to exist in the country and also allow hisbollah to hold a number of seats in the parliament. I trust the people of Lebanon are innocent, peaceful and lovely. If hizbollah havent provoked Israel to act so aggressively, i dont think we have these disturbing pictures to put up here. I have Israeli friends and Iranians, even though, I am Taiwanese, and we hang out good together, so its not really the islam-zionism issue here. Thinking we could be bombed by the Chinese one day in the future with thousands of missiles, we must discourage terrorism
may God bless the land and the people of Lebanon
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:14 pm
To… Silan, Shawn,Hans, Najim and Amethyst. Thank you again for speaking the truth. The truth needs not be spoken anymore, because it is for all to SEE!!
Another truth that is to large to go unnoticed..The great Israeli militetry is embarrassed because with all there might (us backed weapons) Have achieved nothing. Nothing more than war crimes. mazeltof you cowards..Pay back is very soon!!
Long Live Lebanon.
to Zionist and Joaquim and Dani and Hafeezbeteezelisrailia, mazeltoff to your Lies Lies Lies lies Lies. “LOL”…LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES… Now go away… “LOL”….
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:19 pm
STOP DESTROYING LEBANON.
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:35 pm
The Shame of Being an American
by Paul Craig Roberts
Gentle reader, do you know that Israel is engaged in ethnic cleansing in southern Lebanon? Israel has ordered all the villagers to clear out. Israel then destroys their homes and murders the fleeing villagers. That way there is no one to come back and nothing to which to return, making it easier for Israel to grab the territory, just as Israel has been stealing Palestine from the Palestinians.
Do you know that one-third of the Lebanese civilians murdered by Israel’s attacks on civilian residential districts are children? That is the report from Jan Egeland, the emergency relief coordinator for the UN. He says it is impossible for help to reach the wounded and those buried in rubble, because Israeli air strikes have blown up all the bridges and roads. Considering how often (almost always) Israel misses Hezbollah targets and hits civilian ones, one might think that Israeli fire is being guided by US satellites and US military GPS. Don’t be surprised at US complicity. Why would the puppet be any less evil than the puppet master?
Of course, you don’t know these things, because the US print and TV media do not report them.
Because Bush is so proud of himself, you do know that he has blocked every effort to stop the Israeli slaughter of Lebanese civilians. Bush has told the UN “NO.” Bush has told the European Union “NO.” Bush has told the pro-American Lebanese prime minister “NO.” Twice. Bush is very proud of his firmness. He is enjoying Israel’s rampage and wishes he could do the same thing in Iraq.
Does it make you a Proud American that “your” president gave Israel the green light to drop bombs on convoys of villagers fleeing from Israeli shelling, on residential neighborhoods in the capital of Beirut and throughout Lebanon, on hospitals, on power plants, on food production and storage, on ports, on civilian airports, on bridges, on roads, on every piece of infrastructure on which civilized life depends? Are you a Proud American? Or are you an Israeli puppet?
On July 20, “your” House of Representatives voted 410-8 in favor of Israel’s massive war crimes in Lebanon. Not content with making every American complicit in war crimes, “your” House of Representatives, according to the Associated Press, also “condemns enemies of the Jewish state.”
Who are the “enemies of the Jewish state”?
They are the Palestinians whose land has been stolen by the Jewish state, whose homes and olive groves have been destroyed by the Jewish state, whose children have been shot down in the streets by the Jewish state, whose women have been abused by the Jewish state. They are Palestinians who have been walled off into ghettos, who cannot reach their farm lands or medical care or schools, who cannot drive on roads through Palestine that have been constructed for Israelis only. They are Palestinians whose ancient towns have been invaded by militant Zionist “settlers” under the protection of the Israeli army who beat and persecute the Palestinians and drive them out of their towns. They are Palestinians who cannot allow their children outside their homes because they will be murdered by Israeli “settlers.”
The Palestinians who confront Israeli evil are called “terrorists.” When Bush forced free elections on Palestine, the people voted for Hamas. Hamas is the organization that has stood up to Israel. This means, of course, that Hamas is evil, anti-Semitic, un-American and terrorist. The US and Israel responded by cutting off all funds to the new government. Democracy is permitted only if it produces the results Bush and Israel want.
Israelis never practice terror. Only those who are in Israel’s way are terrorists.
Another enemy of the Jewish state is Hezbollah. Hezbollah is a militia of Shi’ite Muslims created in 1982 when Israel first invaded Lebanon. During this invasion the great moral Jewish state arranged for the murder of refugees in refugee camps. The result of Israel’s atrocities was Hezbollah, which fought the Israeli Army, defeated it, and drove it out of Lebanon. Today Hezbollah not only defends southern Lebanon but also provides social services such as orphanages and medical care.
To cut to the chase, the enemies of the Jewish state are any Muslim country not ruled by an American puppet friendly to Israel. Egypt, Jordan, and the oil emirates have sided with Israel against their own kind, because they are dependent either on American money or on American protection from their own people. Sooner or later these totally corrupt governments that do not represent the people they rule will be overthrown. It is only a matter of time.
Indeed Bush and Israel may be hastening the process in their frantic effort to overthrow the governments of Syria and Iran. Both governments have more popular support than Bush has, but the White House Moron doesn’t know this. The Moron thinks Syria and Iran will be “cakewalks” like Iraq, where ten proud divisions of the US military are tied down by a few lightly armed insurgents.
If you are still a Proud American, consider that your pride is doing nothing good for Israel or for America .
On July 20 when “your” House of Representatives, following “your” US Senate, passed the resolution in support of Israel’s war crimes, the most powerful lobby in Washington, the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), quickly got out a press release proclaiming “The American people overwhelming support Israel’s war on terrorism and understand that we must stand by our closest ally in this time of crisis.”
The truth is that Israel created the crisis by invading a country with a pro-American government. The truth is that the American people do not support Israel’s war crimes, as the CNN quick poll results make clear and as was made clear by callers into C-Span.
Despite the Israeli spin on news provided by US “reporting,” a majority of Americans do not approve of Israeli atrocities against Lebanese civilians. Hezbollah is located in southern Lebanon. If Israel is targeting Hezbollah, why are Israeli bombs falling on northern Lebanon? Why are they falling on Beirut? Why are they falling on civilian airports? On schools and hospitals?
Now we arrive at the main point. When the US Senate and House of Representatives pass resolutions in support of Israeli war crimes and condemn those who resist Israeli aggression, the Senate and House confirm Osama bin Laden’s propaganda that America stands with Israel against the Arab and Muslim world.
Indeed, Israel, which has one of the world’s largest per capita incomes, is the largest recipient of US foreign aid. Many believe that much of this “aid” comes back to AIPAC, which uses it to elect “our” representatives in Congress.
This perception is no favor to Israel, whose population is declining, as the smart ones have seen the writing on the wall and have been leaving. Israel is surrounded by hundreds of millions of Muslims who are being turned into enemies of Israel by Israel’s actions and inhumane policies.
The hope in the Muslim world has always been that the United States would intervene in behalf of compromise and make Israel realize that Israel cannot steal Palestine and turn every Palestinian into a refugee.
This has been the hope of the Arab world. This is the reason our puppets have not been overthrown. This hope is the reason America still had some prestige in the Arab world.
The House of Representatives resolution, bought and paid for by AIPAC money, is the final nail in the coffin of American prestige in the Middle East. It shows that America is, indeed, Israel’s puppet, just as Osama bin Laden says, and as a majority of Muslims believe.
With hope and diplomacy dead, henceforth America and Israel have only tooth and claw. The vaunted Israeli army could not defeat a rag tag militia in southern Lebanon. The vaunted US military cannot defeat a rag tag, lightly armed insurgency drawn from a minority of the population in Iraq, insurgents, moreover, who are mainly engaged in civil war against the Shi’ite majority.
What will the US and its puppet master do? Both are too full of hubris and paranoia to admit their terrible mistakes. Israel and the US will either destroy from the air the civilian infrastructure of Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, and Iran so that civilized life becomes impossible for Muslims, or the US and Israel will use nuclear weapons to intimidate Muslims into acquiescence to Israel’s desires.
Muslim genocide in one form or another is the professed goal of the neoconservatives who have total control over the Bush administration. Neocon godfather Norman Podhoretz has called for World War IV (in neocon thinking WW III was the Cold War) to overthrow Islam in the Middle East, deracinate the Islamic religion and turn it into a formalized, secular ritual.
Rumsfeld’s neocon Pentagon has drafted new US war doctrine that permits pre-emptive nuclear attack on non-nuclear states.
Neocon David Horowitz says that by slaughtering Palestinian and Lebanese civilians, “Israel is doing the work of the rest of the civilized world,” thus equating war criminals with civilized men.
Neocon Larry Kudlow says that “Israel is doing the Lord’s work” by murdering Lebanese, a claim that should give pause to Israel’s Christian evangelical supporters. Where does the Lord Jesus say, “go forth and murder your neighbors so that you may steal their lands”?
The complicity of the American public in these heinous crimes will damn America for all time in history.
I WILL ALSO ADD, AMOTHER THORN IN THE ISRAELI SIDE IS THE CHRISTIAN POPULATON IN LEBANON!!
THEY CANNT BE CALLED TORRORIST CAN THEY!!
VIVA LABANON.
August 2nd, 2006 at 8:04 pm
For Sydney Supporters of PEACE in Lebanon
Tthe following protest actions are in process in relation to Lebanon.
Thursday 3 August 2006 6:00 to 8:00 PM. Martin Place, near MLC centre, Silent Candle Light Vigil.
Sunday 6th August, 1:00 PM. Hyde Park North, Hiroshima Day Rally, the rally organisers have also adopted the Stop the Bombing of Lebanon and Gaza initiative.
Saturday 12th August . 12:00 PM Sydney Town Hall, Stop the Bombing, Israel out of Lebanon and Palestine, March to Hyde Park.
TO RK7 Im glad to see you’ve used my name for that idiot …. YOU LIKE! LOL
August 2nd, 2006 at 8:20 pm
Question! Finally, finally, someone who knows enough to ask the right question!
I will repost your message, since it is so important, then give my comments.
Question said,
on August 2nd, 2006 at 4:06 pm
if there were no borders, no flags, no nationality, no religion would there still be something left to fight about? What is worth more, my identity or my life? neither exists without the other one does it? is that why there has always been and always will be wars going on? can someone answer me, im confused!
From Hafeez,
Yes, yes, this is really the only natural way for humanity, the way that the insanities of nationalism, religion, capitalism, and so forth do everything in their power to prevent.
Who has a “right” to a particular piece of land? Someone who was born there? All their descendants, ad infinitum?
If you have one ounce of intelligence you can see where this leads, namely that there can be conflicting, even contradictory claims that are equally as valid.
In this particular case both the Jewish and Palestinian peoples have comparable rights.
Is the Palestinians rights, en masse, more recent? Yes, but only if you include all the progeny of those “refugees” who were forced to leave.
Will this right (of the descendants), ever expire? I doubt the Palestininans, or any of their supporters, will ever admit to this. Else Israel need only hold out long enough (another 50 years, another 100) and then the “right to return” of the Palestinians would become null and void.
But if this “right to return” is eternal, then the muslim world must admit that it apllies to the jewish people as well, since it is undeniable (except by the most idiotic morons) that they are the descendants of those who once occupied this land, but were conquered many times and forced to flee, for the most part, as refugees.
So what some palestian supporters have done is claim “primary” or “first” occupation of this land.
They cite biblical stories to show that the jewish people did not actually come originally from the land later called Israel, but were slaves in Egypt, who escaped and then conquered the land of the Canaanites.
There are, of course, at least two major problems with this line of reasoning.
First, to establish their claim thusly, they must present themselves, somehow, as Canaanites.
Actually, the historical record is very clear that the present day palestinians to this area arrived much, much later than these biblical times. Even they do not dispute this.
So, to get over this hurdle, they postulate that the present day palestinians have some small percentage of canaanite blood remaining within them, so therefore the “rights” of the canaanites (thousands of years old) justifiably descend unto them as rightful heirs.
Of course there is nothing even approaching any sort of “proof” to this wishful thinking, but it demonstrates the serpentine and twisted sort of logic employed to try to demonstrate or justify these sort of claims.
The second problem with this approach is that, if the jewish people originally came from Egypt (where they were slaves), then by all rights, they can lay claim to that land!!!
Also, if these land “rights” are “eternal” then all the colonial settlers all over the world must immediately vacate these ill-gotten gains.
This includes all the europeans from the americas (but also all the africans, arabs, persians, etc.).
This includes all the muslims from pakistan and elsewhere that they did not “originate” from but rather, conquered.
You see where this is going.
So the only thing we can conclude is what you propose, question.
Who has the right to this land (or to any other)?
No one.
And everyone.
It would be wonderful if, someday, this could happen.
This is the truest form of “free trade”. Instead of “capital” or “goods” which most people own little of, what everybody, every single one of us, does indeed own is ourselves, and our labour.
If everyone could live where they want, and work where they want, you would see, and very quickly, a vast, and much more equitable, redistribution of wealth, where poor conditions or oppression would not be tolerated, where those who profit over the misery of others would soon lose their power.
Would that this day could come, sooner rather than later.
But let’s be more practical and return to the present situation.
As we have seen, there can be no “absolute” claim to the land that is Israel (either greater of lesser).
Both the jewish and the palestinian people have rights that are as valid as any one who lives in any “nation”.
It would be nice if both groups could live together in a bi-national state (this was actually the proposed and desired program of many zionists, including Noam Chomsky, who wanted a socialist worker’s state).
This is what I think would be the ideal “solution”, but I do not think it is a vialble option at present. It is doubtful that this bi-national state, with the ensuing large muslim majority, would survive for long as a secular, progressive nation, the results of which I do not have to delineate here, but would obviously be a very painful situation for all parties involved.
So, what most objective observers have concluded is that what is necessary here is a “two state” solution, one Palestine and one Israel.
Some palestinians (not groups such as hamas or hezbollah, though) and other muslim nations and voices have come to accept this.
Unfortunately, along with this seeming progress, they have demanded absolutely the right of return of the millions of palestinian refugees.
This 2 state solution then devolves into one Palestine and another Palestine, with Israel finally “disappeared”.
So here is what the vast majority of Israelis will accept:
Division of the land according to 1967 borders.
Division of Jerusalem as well (or share it under an international mandate).
A token return of refuges and compensation for others.
For all this, I think they also expect to have to fight no more battles and wars.
They would want this to be a final peace, not just some temporary hudna (as hamas and other groups, have sometimes proposed as a tactic for the eventual “annihalation” of Israel).
This is what the supporters of the palestinians, perhaps the entire muslim world, must realize. If you really want peace, you can have it. No “sly” strategems with hidden poison pills, but a true peace, made with compromise, and with honor.
One other thing, question, about identity.
We partly choose our own identity, and partly choose those parts that we deem primary, or even essential.
If we must have borders and flags, nations and religions, we should, at least, make all these things subservient and complient to that part of our “identity” which shares a common heritage with all of humanity, a heritage which is blind to all these other things which divide us.
August 2nd, 2006 at 8:20 pm
AMETHYST, lota peace coming your way…
Viva Lebanon.
August 2nd, 2006 at 8:35 pm
To hafeeztees, you are a fool blinded by lies…
Israel will never want nor can it accept peace. How can they when they NEED millions more Isarelis to come back and populate Isarel! Greater Israel!! More steeling of land!! Guess what another war need to kill more Lebanese, Palestinien, Syrian…women and children!! Your theory is a lie!!
Viva Lebanon.
August 2nd, 2006 at 8:45 pm
To Chang Chee,
There are so many like you that are saying that if the Hizbella had not taken the Israeli soldiers - this would not have happened. That is such Bull Shit. You and others like you do not get it or you just don’t seem to care anyway. It’s that kind of lazy, stupid thinking that has allowed for the deaths of so many innocents, namely children.
It looks to me that Israel was ready and willing for this “murder campaign.” It appears so obvious that they DID have this planned for sometime.
Now I don’t know if Israel is really going after hesbella or not. But with great relish they are killing everybody else in sight. Maybe they don’t care about their own soldiers. Their aim is to damage as much of Lebanon as they can, kill and injure as many people and children as they can, they want to break the will of Lebanon, and it sure shows like that on the news. For what reason, God only knows. These Israeli soldiers cannot possibly believe in God. How could they?
I’ve seen them on their ship, smiling, looking fit. I’ve seen their great technology, and they’ve been showing it off alot on CNN.
I’ve seen them walking on the streets of Southern Lebanon, laughing, and making faces. I am not impressed to say the least. What kind of “people” are they after they have killed so many women and children??
I will never go to Israel. I’ll never visit there, ever.
They could have negotiated for those soldiers, but instead they went too far, way way too far. They had to kill so many hundreds of Lebanese citizens, and some visitors were killed, and don’t forget the four UN members.
No chang che, the world is a very sad place with the USA and Israel in power. Today it is a very sad place.
Shawn, RK7, Silan, Amethyst, K-i, and yes Hans, patience will have its reward - Blessings to you all and others like-minded and like-hearted.
Zionist and Joaquim, Dany, and Halfesz, the toilet awaits you. Down you go, flush flush.
August 2nd, 2006 at 8:50 pm
Question said,
on August 2nd, 2006 at 4:06 pm
if there were no borders, no flags, no nationality, no religion would there still be something left to fight about? What is worth more, my identity or my life? neither exists without the other one does it? is that why there has always been and always will be wars going on? can someone answer me, im confused!
To answer your question “Question”, War does not have to happen. It is a direct choice that is made. As one can choose to go to war, one can choose not to go to war. It is not our differences that cause war, but limited thinking and a mentality of scarcity and its inherent cousin greed. Your life can definitely exist without your identity - especially if it is defined by culture, ethnicity or nationality. The latter are all social constructs. We are at the very foundations of us all - human beings. That definition in and of itself, does more to unite us than anything else. What is basic for survival on this planet earth is common to every living person. It is when we get beyond those basic needs and when we begin to create differences among ourselves that conflict and its most escalated form, war, begins. Indeed, peace on earth CAN EXIST. It will however require a massive paradigm shift, politically, psychologically, spirtually, socially …indeed a revolution of enormous proportions. And, one that recognizes, the sanctity of all human life and is willing to share the riches of the earth equally.
August 2nd, 2006 at 9:17 pm
To responder…, your philosophy and the way your eyes see this wolrd is 100% correct.
Unfortunately some choose money, diamonds and power over a peaceful existance.. I wish they did not but they do… It is very clear who thee are, needs not naming..
However peace to you responder.
Long live Lebanon.
August 2nd, 2006 at 9:26 pm
Ecoutez a moi, peoples!
It is only I, your humble servant, Quasimondo.
I am not a quasi-jew, nor a quasi-muslim, and, unlike most of you here, am not a quasi-”let’s help the Lebanese”.
Really, you people are shameless. You are unbelieveable.
If I was an Israeli, I would go to my government and say “Please, you must stop this right now. No matter what the military logic of our actions, no matter what advantage we may achieve, it is not worth all the lives, innocent or otherwise, that are lost. And it does not matter if our opponents behave “worse” than we do, for we must behave, always, in the way that is right, that is in harmony, with our beliefs. It does not matter if, in so doing, we are thought “weak”, or if others might try to take some advantage in this. For we must always stand firm, not “against” others who might stand against us, but, rather, always, within ourselves. This is the only way to true dignity. So, please, stop these actions which are so painful to all.”
If I was a Lebanese, I would go to my government and say “Please, you must do everything you can to stop these actions of hezbollah and their supporters. They do nothing to benefit us, they are the proxies of extranational powers who have, for many years, lusted after our lands to occupy and gobble up in its entirety, worse than anything the israelis have ever contemplated. And what have they wrought here? Whatever reasons were behind this “miscalculation”, how can it have been worth it, how can we allow it to continue? With so many dead and injured, displaced and suffering, our beautiful country destroyed again, please, we must do everything possible to get it to stop. We must use our own army to reign in these militants who have triggered, if not caused, such terrible harm. And if our own army is incapable of this, if our own government too weak, then we must call in the international community to aid us in our direst time of need.”
Yes, that is what I would do if I were Lebanese, or if I were Israeli.
Perhaps the real Israelis, the real Lebanese, can be forgiven or excused for any failure in this regard, being, as they are, too close to the situation.
But the rest of us, given, by distance, at least some small amount of perspective, what excuse have we, what forgiveness should we expect?
It should be clear that we should do everything possible to stop these hostilities, to exert pressure, where we are able, on all those parties, and those that might have any influence on them, to take the necessary actions.
These actions are simple. Just stop. Stop.
No complicated agendas. No lengthy negotiations. Just STOP.
It does not matter who goes first, though, to my mind, that party which wins this “race” can claim some moral highground.
In any case, it must stop. I thought everyone, everyone would agree to that.
I wandered into this arena thinking I would find like-minded individuals; brothers and sisters, not “in arms” but in “disarming”.
I had thought that would be the goal of all those who wanted to “stop destroying lebanon”.
Indeed, there are a few (a very few) here who are like voices in the wilderness, crying with all their might for peace.
For PEACE, be it imaginary or real, be it fleeting or lasting, but PEACE nonetheless.
Yes, there are a few very brave souls here, who have descended, as it were, into the depths of hell, to be burned and flayed alive, but who persist, so courageously, to call for an end to all this insanity.
The rest of you are deaf to these cries; all reason is lost and drowned out by your own cackles, your own cries for more blood, always for more blood, as if you all belonged to a race of vampyra, and not to humanity.
Like I said in the beginning, you are all shameless.
But sadly, tragically, not so unbelieveable.
August 2nd, 2006 at 9:39 pm
PAZ
August 2nd, 2006 at 9:53 pm
Zero Truth,
First you say you agree with Responder and then you go and contradict yourself by “choosing” for yourself the path of hatred and racism.
Can you spell hypocrite? (That’s H.Y.P.O.C.R.I.T.E.).
And contrary to your opinion, and some others here, lies do not become “truth” by constant repetition, by constant shouting.
To give you the greatest amount of “benefit of doubt” I would say that some of what you strive for might seem worthy (certainly the title of this blog, for instance), but it is all vitiated by the corruption of your foundations, that are so vile and repugnant.
The claim of “truth” is one that is made universally, by racists of all ilks.
Anti-semitism is not so detestable because it is “anti-jew” but because it is, unequivocably and irredeemibly, racism.
RACISM
If this is your “cause” then accept who you are.
Better yet, change, grow up, open your eyes.
But don’t go trying to fool others, trying to have them believe that your bigotry, your hatred, your heart filled with violence, is in line with some beneficent agency that would bring “paradise” to our earth.
That is the work of the trickser, the cheater, the deceiver.
August 2nd, 2006 at 10:08 pm
Quas (brilliant name, by the way),
I like the line about truth, that lies repeated no matter how often, or how loudly, do not accumulate any more veracity.
And even old g.w. speaks of worthy goals like democracy and freedom. But does that justify any of his horrendous actions, or purify his motivations (greed, revenge, impotence, etc.).
No, of course not.
So, while many of these people here have at least one worthy goal ( to help the Lebanese people, although this usually seems almost entirely forgotten, at times) what they do (their actions and words) does nothing really to help and may even have the opposite effect in exacerbating the situation.
You are right, though, this is all too common in our world, with constant battles between opposing idiots, with nary a scrap of intelligence or common sense amongst them.
August 2nd, 2006 at 10:23 pm
fabiano,
You are partially right with your hypothetical query.
But, if your analogy is correct in this situation, then hezbollah is, indeed, criminal and a “problem”, as you say. Many here would disagree with that view.
Also, in that case, hezbollah should not be part of the Lebanese government.
And it is not as if this this is something that just popped up.
It is like they were a gang that has been robbing banks and making cross-border raids for many years. If Lebanon does not have the means to “handle” them, then they should call on other parties (like Interpol) to round them up, as it were.
August 2nd, 2006 at 11:32 pm
To Quasimondo
Your words of PEACE and TOLERANCE and DISARMENT have not fallen on deaf ears. This has been my dream for the world for as long as I can remember. But unfortunatly the STRONG & POWERFUL in this world only want to destroy what hope we have of achieving this. I abhore war and violence of any sort and I pray every day for this senseless carnage to end. But you are wrong about the fact that if you repeat a lie often enough it sounds like the truth to most people. They only find out when its too late that it was in fact a lie. For all the research I have done on Hezballah lead me to believe that they did start life as a resistance movement. I do not support their methods …….
Given the history of what this Israeli nation has done to the Middle East, one has to question who the real Terrorist are. Most so called Terrorist in the MIddle East are directly to be linked to a hatred of Israel and what it has been inflicting on the Palestinians for the last 64 years. The Balfour Declaration promised them all of Palestine and they got 65%, they have systematically been trying to get the other 35% ever since. They have convinced the world that these suicide bombers (again I do not approve of their actions) have an unfounded fear and hatred of Israel. But I ask you the PEACE lover that you are …….. How long can someone be whipped into submission? How long can someone be denied their human rights? How long can someone see their family and neighbours been shot and their homes destroyed by the IDF ……. Before they lose all sense of humanity and strap a bomb to themselves and then set out to achieve the maximum damage to their enemy that are are able to, all whilst taking their own life. Sad but True!
For Peace to come to the Middle East, we must endeavour to relocate these quasi jews (or at the very least contain them) who have made a false claim on a land that was stolen from its rightful owners in order to house all the jews in all the world and make a Jewish State smack dead centre in the Arab world. Do you see any of the Muslim countries advertising for foreighn muslims to come and populate their stolen state.
If you were to speak to any person that knows me or has known me, they will tell you that I am a staunch supporter of PEACE for all. But when your country is being systematically destroyed and your people been slaughtered without compassion. I sit and watch the news and read the newspapers and speak to friends and aquaintences, I am devasted and ashamed to say that the lies that the Israeli government is putting out is being accepted. My words have grown harsher as the days go on, because of my frustration at the world media reportage and the accomplicement of the US …… That this is being done for a greater peace. I wanted this war to end last lifetime not just now. I have never asked for Jewish blood to be spilled in revenge and I do not wish that even now.
BUT THE LIES THAT ARE BEING TOLD AS JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS CARNAGE ON MY COUNTRY AND MY PEOPLE HAS BROUGHT HOME CLEARER TO ME WHAT ISRAEL HAS BEEN INFLICTING ON OUR PALESTINIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS FOR OVER 60YRS. THIS ISRAELI GOVERNMENT AND ITS US ALLIES DO NOT WANT TO BRING PEACE TO THE MIDDLE EAST …….. THEY WISH TO OWN IT AND DESTROY ITS INHABITANTS DARE THEY STAND AGAINST THEM.
ACTIONS SPEAK SO MUCH LOUDER TAHN WORDS
August 3rd, 2006 at 12:27 am
Lebanon speaks the truth… A sad but real truth…
while the others speak of money, diamonds,power and more land…greed greed greed.
Long live Lebanon.
August 3rd, 2006 at 12:53 am
I wonder what world reaction would have been if just 10% of the rockets fired into Israel by Hezbollah had hit their mark instead of landing in open fields and unpopulated areas which would have resulted into greater Israeli civilian deaths and injuries.
Maybe this has been due to:
* Israel has been lucky
* the Jewish people’s god has been looking out for them
* Hezbollah incompetence
No question about what Hezbollah’s intent has been by firing these rockets indiscriminately into Israel.
But all the while, the pressure is on Israel to stop but virtually no response to Hezbollah firing rocket into Israel. Go figure.
August 3rd, 2006 at 1:41 am
Lebanon speaks the truth… A sad but real truth…
while the others speak of money, diamonds,power and more land…greed greed greed.
dani your a clown
Long live Lebanon.
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:05 am
DEAR DEAR DEAR DANI,
WHen are you going to get it through that thick head of yours. Your words and the words of those that think like you are not in least bit welcome on this page. This is a site dedicated to those who truely see the injustice that is being reigned down on Lebanon and its innocent people by your beloved government. Whether you believe what we say or not, this is what we think and feel. It is our RIGHT as free human beings. Yes you are entitled to your point of view …. but please be a bigger person (than your PM can ever be) and show that you do care for humainty and STOP comeing on here rubbing salt in the wounds of those who are truely suffering with this carnage, seeing their country and their people being destroyed by your army. You come on here and badger us with what you believe …… We believe the opposite. Respect our RIGHT to vent our frustration on these pages and not have to read your BS. You are doing exactly what the Israeli government has been doing to the Lebanese for the past 22years with their sonic boom fly overs of Lebanese Territory. You are playing a game of intimidation and badgering …. so that we see things your way. That my friend is never going to happen. Perhaps you should go and find a sight more to your way of thinking and then you can rejoice with others like you at the murderous carnage your government is bringing to Lebanon and its people. PLEASE PLEASE GO AWAY and leave us to mourn our dead in PEACE.
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:30 am
Hello AK47 and your support crew. So Hezbollah doesn’t use residential suburbs to launch its rockets into Israel.
So how do you explain this recent report in Melbourne, Australia’s Sunday Herald Sun ???
Not surprised that the person who smuggled the photos out did not want to identify himself. I wonder why ???
The full article AND PHOTOS can be found at:
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,19955774-5007220,00.html
For those who have trouble with this link here is the article:
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THIS is the picture that damns Hezbollah. It is one of several, smuggled from behind Lebanon’s battle lines, showing that Hezbollah is waging war amid suburbia.
The images, obtained exclusively by the Sunday Herald Sun, show Hezbollah using high-density residential areas as launch pads for rockets and heavy-calibre weapons.
Dressed in civilian clothing so they can quickly disappear, the militants carrying automatic assault rifles and ride in on trucks mounted with cannon.
The photographs, from the Christian area of Wadi Chahrour in the east of Beirut, were taken by a visiting journalist and smuggled out by a friend.
They emerged as:
US President George Bush called for an international force to be sent to Lebanon.
ISRAEL called up another 30,000 reserve troops.
THE UN’s humanitarian chief Jan Egeland called for a three-day truce to evacuate civilians and transport food and water into cut-off areas.
US SECRETARY of State Condoleezza Rice returned to the Middle East to push a UN resolution aimed at ending the 18-day war, and:
A PALESTINIAN militant group said it had kidnapped, killed and burned an Israeli settler in the West Bank.
The images include one of a group of men and youths preparing to fire an anti-aircraft gun metres from an apartment block with sheets hanging out on a balcony to dry.
Others show a militant with AK47 rifle guarding no-go zones after Israeli blitzes.
Another depicts the remnants of a Hezbollah Katyusha rocket in the middle of a residential block blown up in an Israeli air attack.
The Melbourne man who smuggled the shots out of Beirut and did not wish to be named said he was less than 400m from the block when it was obliterated.
“Hezbollah came in to launch their rockets, then within minutes the area was blasted by Israeli jets,” he said.
“Until the Hezbollah fighters arrived, it had not been touched by the Israelis. Then it was totally devastated.
“It was carnage. Two innocent people died in that incident, but it was so lucky it was not more.”
The release of the images comes as Hezbollah faces criticism for allegedly using innocent civilians as “human shields”.
Mr Egeland blasted Hezbollah as “cowards” for operating among civilians.
“When I was in Lebanon, in the Hezbollah heartland, I said Hezbollah must stop this cowardly blending in among women and children,” he said.
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:37 am
Dear dani,
i invite you to come before some lebanese people who have lost loved ones in this atrocity and express your views face to face.
but just as your pm expresses the thoughts of the israelis behind the coat of the might of the USA, you in a similar way have found the courage to do so behind the safety of your pc.(typical)
so, name your time and place so this can happen. otherwise, F… Off !!!
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:01 am
G’day Stel - thanks for the invitation, but I am afraid I will have to decline as I value my life, unlike others who are happy to sacrifice innocent lives for the sake of a photo opportunity.
And by the way, what about the innocent Israeli citizens who have also lost their lives and those who have been injured, or the families of those murdered in suicide bombings by your “freedom fighters”?
Thanks again Stel, but no thanks. I’ll stay right here and voice my opinion which is my right.
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:03 am
Dani i am realy eegre to know how to you value life ?
is the an israely person more valuable , important , human , sanctified creation more then us ? i mean more then any Lebanese person ??
is an israely child more precious then a Lebanese child ??? an israely woman more important then Lebanese woman ?? ……………
i realy wonder when i read your posts if your are even able to be a human you sound to me a heartless monster and you truely give us the color of the israely mentality who always think they have a supremacy over all other human being …
well allow me to tell you that our lives and our existance are as precious and important as any human being either you like it or not . we all are God creation … deal with this fact ! and franckly all i see since the creation of the nation of israel is death ,distruction , killing , hatred ,your spit your hatred evry where you spread death evry where …. now i realy ask myself are you realy humans ??? the diffrence between you (israel ppl) and us is that we value all humans and i say all humans without any discremination regardless the religion the color their political social ethnic affiliations … while you and your ppl seems to think you are above all and better then all … think twice before judging us because you are not doing other then getting more and more in the world of heartless monsters away from human exestence !
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:21 am
Dear Caroline - I do not value, nor never have valued, one life as being more important than another. I have said it before here and I say it again - I DEPLORE THE DEATH OF INNOCENTS ON BOTH SIDES of the conflict.
I also deplore and detest the repugnant usage of a militant few who are willing to sacrifice the lives of many so that they can further a cause which is based on destruction and the killing of others.
If my presenting an alternate viewpoint offends you, I apologise, but sometimes the truth can hurt.
Furthermore, all life is precious, be it Jewish, Christian or Muslim but I am yet to see on this board any feelings of contrition regarding those innocently killed in Israel by katyushas or suicide bombers for that matter - on the contrary, certain parties posting here are only concerned with the elimination of the state of Israel and the annihilation of Jews.
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:24 am
DANI, and your friends matt and beteezelisraeliya and all the others who think as you do ……………….
I see now you have chosen to ignore me all together, why would that be?? I would say that I have touched more than a few raw nerves and poised a few questions that you are either unwilling or unable to answer. You persistance in staying on this site is proof perfect about what the Israelies think of their rights. You have been asked to desist from your racists comments (oh but what about the israeli deaths …….. well what about them Dani) and to go somewhere where your thoughts are accepted. They are neither appreciated ot wanted here. But yet again this is Israels way …. you either accept their way and grieve for them forever because of this so called holocaust or you will be hounded or worse still destroyed by them. All you are doing here by trying to convince us of your RIGHTS is upsetting people who are grieving for their loved ones. You care so much about YOUR PEOPLE, go grieve with them and stop decaying this site with your lies and cries of “what about Israel, what about its people wawawwawawawawawa …………….. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GO AWAY
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:32 am
Dani,
my point is that certain people, given the circumstances, are passionate and committed enough to stand for their cause, no matter how and where.
we already know who would show up and who wouldnt.
furthermore, you have the audacity to suggest that because only 10% of hezbollah missiles are causing problems, that this could be the influence from God protecting the jews.
do you think that the inferior warfare technology might have something to do with it and if you wish to stand by this, then what role did God play during the holocaust?
your argument suggests that he has changed sides.
i will also suggest to you that God is watching but not in the way you think
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:37 am
Amethyst - I have not made one racist comment - unlike others on this board.
Sure, I have criticised a certain militant group known as Hezbollah and have tried to share my opinions of what might be motivating them and if this results in one person reading this thread in starting to question what they may have been told about this conflict or if it makes people think that maybe there is more to this war than just a tit for tat killing orgy, then I will be have achieved something.
I am not against the Lebanese people nor have I ever said words to that effect on this board - but I am against militant groups that use others for their purpose without care and total disregard of innocent lives that always end up getting caught in the cross-fire - ON BOTH SIDES.
I do not believe for one minute that all free-thinking Lebanese who in an environment where they can say what they think and do what they want without the threat of retribution would agree with the actions of Hezbollah over the past 3 weeks.
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:38 am
The one question people seem to be asking is “How do we solve this problem?” So here is your answer.
1. Israel must cease fire immediately and withdraw from Gaza and Lebanon.
2. Isreal must release the 7500 Arab prisoners they hold without merit and allow them to return to their countries.
In return Hezbollah and Hamas will return the 3 soldiers taken hostage.
3. Israel must hold new elections to replace the current administration of Jewish terrorists.
In return Hamas and Hezbollah will agree to a complete cease fire of violence against the Jews.
4. The new Israeli administration must call the leaders of all the middle eastern countries to a special conference. There they can ask….no beg for forgiveness for the atrocities they have committed against the Arab population. (The Germans had to suck it up and admit they were wrong, so too can the Israeli’s if for one minute they can stop being so arrogant)
5. Then Israel can begin to tackle the issue of the 65 U.N. resolutions they have pending against them to include their unlawful occupation of Palestine.
6. Lastly they must tear down that stupid ass wall they built.
Then there will be peace in the middle east!
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:49 am
Got to tell you Stel, that many Jews also asked the question of where was God during the Holocaust - and that includes many orthodox Jews as opposed to secular, assimilated Jews in Europe at the time.
I also got to tell you, Stel, that in my younger days, I did not have a problem standing up in various forums to put my point of view on whatever the topic may have been at the time, but alas, I am now somewhat older and my health is not that great and looking for extra stress is not recommended at this time.
As to “inferior warfare technology”, I take it you are sorry that so few rockets have hit populated areas ??? By the way I did not say 10% are causing problems - read what I wrote - every rocket fired causes problems, but only a few have hit populated areas including Nazareth, killing two arab children, and one yesterday near Jenin which is also populated with many arabs.
So if anything, God and luck have been protected arabs and Israelis if you like.
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:50 am
Dani
Why dont you do what your government wont do and just GO AWAY and leave us in PEACE from your hateful and vengeful words. You claim to be saddened by the deaths of all these calatoral damage targets, yet everytime you say but what about the RIGHTS of the Israelies, what about the Israelie deaths you are sending another virtual rocket into the hearts of the INNOCENT lebanese. Go and mourn your dead with your own people, but please do not keep trying to justify your blackened and hateful heart (the same heart of your government) by saying you have a right. You have no right to come on here and terrorise with your words and warped logics. GO AWAY AND LET US GRIEVE AND TALK AMONGST OURSELVES IN PEACE. We neither believe your words or understand your logic and have no wish to do so. Because they are words of HATE, and your logic is based on lies and coverups. THERE IS NO EXCUSE AND NEVER WILL BE ANY LOGIC IN WHAT YOUR TERRORIST GOVERNMENT IS DOING TO THE MIDDLE EAST. Your PM is slowly showing the world his HATRED for those that fight for their freedom from under the Israeli stranglehold and opression of both the Palestinian and now the Lebanese.
YOUR POINTS OF VIEW ARE NOT WELCOME PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GO AWAY
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:19 am
Sure Shawn - spot on, like its going to happen ???
How about starting with a simple premise such as, eh, Hezbollah and Hamas accepting the right of Israel to exist and denouncing, no eradicating, all talk of destroying Israel and killing Jews from their aims.
Now that might make a more realistic starting point upon which all other issues could then become bargaining pieces in return for Israel being guaranteed safe and secure borders.
Sad that peace accords can be signed and peace can exist between Israel and Egypt and Israel and Jordan yet this can not happen with Lebanon. The question that needs to be asked is why is this so ???
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:21 am
Dani
I will say this …….. you do seem like a caring if somewhat misguided soul. I do feel your pain for your people that have died violently ……. but again I say to you this does not justify your governments need for revenge and destruction on an innocent people. You cannot hold a nation of innocent people hostage to the actions of those you consider terrorist. Many resisteance movements against oppressors are tageted as terrorist.
Lets say that Hizballah are the terrorist they’ve been called. What can you call a government who is part of the Geneva convention, and said to believe in human rights that continually and without a break (even during the 48hr ceasefire) continue to kill and blast the very foundations of a country they say they have no war with.
I am getting tired of this and my heart is breaking, I can hardly see to type anymore, because my eyes are so swollen from the tears that have barely dried in two weeks. You say Israel has the right to defend itself …… And I say Israel is continuing to terrorise the Palestinians and the Lebanese with no justification what so ever. This whole conflict started with the theft of land that belonged to the Palestinians. There was no war in the Middle East until your people came to take over.
So please please please desist from trying to justify your governments wrong doing. May God open your eyes and ears to the true injustice there and not just that which you believe is YOUR RIGHTS
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:28 am
What of “the Balfour Declaration” and how it came into existance. What of your Kol Nidre prayer ……. you have yet to comment on either of those issues. You have brought up your historical rights time and again. Please explain these two things from your justified point of view ………………….
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:28 am
No Dani, how about starting with the simple premis that the Israeli government recognize the fact that Palestinians and Lebonese are entitled to the same human rights as the rest of the world. I realize that was a stretch mostly because Israel will NEVER admit they are the Nazis of this generation. They will go on killing innocent Arabs as long as the rest of the world lets them.
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:29 am
to all arab people i think you arab muslim just drinking and sleeping to it ware against lubnan but tomarow it is your number make brave your self start battal against israil fnish them from arab land study you history look your background offfffffffffff if there was (Hazrat UMAR, Haz Ali and Khalid bin Walid) but you peopl doing laxuary once you will infact to Almighty Allah and they will ask you about your world life.
August 3rd, 2006 at 6:00 am
Dani !!, I have read all your compositions. I am suprised your parents let you play on the computer so long.
Hafeez!!, I have read all your compositions. I hope you did not make your zionist parents pay for all your art classes !
August 3rd, 2006 at 6:21 am
dani, matt and hafeezbeteeze and to all who support the Israeli government’s army and there terror ways built on deceit and lies lies lies. go away!!!!
this site is set up to “STOP DESTROYING LEBANON”
understand this very simple point and get lost. Go away very very far away.
God bless you Karen, Amethyst,Shawn,Stel,Quasimondo,Caroline and all who see the truth. May you always have peace. Dont worry God is watching and sees all before us. Peace to you :)
Let us pray for the lost innocent men, women and Children.(both sides)
We will stand in the shadow of death and prevail! As God our protector, we will always live with inner peace and truth.
Beautiful Lebanon we love you..The storm will clear..
Viva Lebanon.
Viva Lebanon.
August 3rd, 2006 at 7:17 am
Dani
i would like you to take few minutes to review the history of the nation of israel …. long painfull sad minutes ! take your time meditate on those long years of agony lived by the poor ppl who were under the fierce unjust attaks of the israely NATION and then i would like to hear your comments did hizb ever do this to you or your ppl ??? think before ansewring and do not mix us with anyone else , did the Lebanese ppl ever did ANY THING LIKE THIS to the israely ?? why we had to suffer 6 distructive isrely invasions??? why did your nation continuously want to distroy us ??? think well bfore ansewring i wish you could be more objective and more informed about the whole issue , instead your fooled by the lies of a criminal nation thirsty for our blood .
hope this video will help
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7828123714384920696
August 3rd, 2006 at 7:28 am
what i dont understand in all your logic is that you countinously find it ok the right for israel to deffend it self and it is forbiden for the lebanese to do the same you are heroes and we are terrorists ???? … let me remind you that we never invaded your country and we never commited any genocide we cant say the same about your Nation who invaded our land 6 times and occupied it 18 years commiting the worse crimes against humanity each time …. do you find this outrageous when we try to deffend our selves ?? again i ask myself what kind of brainwashing you ppl recieve !!!! well again and again i hope that one day the israely ppl will finaly reach a human level and consider the right that is good for them is good for all humans as well .
August 3rd, 2006 at 7:49 am
As I watch the news again. It is a sad reality that Israeli government still cotinues with the killing. The world watches, God sees you. it is wrong.
Viva Lebanon.
August 3rd, 2006 at 8:03 am
Shawn,
Instead of your complicated 6 point plan, how about this much simpler one:
1 or 2. The Israelis stop their hostilities.
2. or 1. Hezbollah stops its hostilites.
It does not matter who goes first but both must do so at once.
Any other outstanding issues can (and should) be discussed and negotiated afterwards, outside any threat of violence or demands for ransom.
The constant harangue against Israel that the use of force will not achieve anything for them must work both ways, else it loses all moral validity.
Yet this seems something you and so many are loathe to give up.
And so the killing and suffering goes on…
August 3rd, 2006 at 8:24 am
Did you all notice the report from Human Rights Watch?
They report that 28 people were killed in Qana, not the over 60 that was claimed.
Yes, of course, this is still terrible, this is still horrendous, and all of this must still be stopped at once, but it does bring to mind previous incidents such as the “massacre” at Jenin, where Israelis supposedly slaughtered over 5000 civilians. Well, it turns out that only around 50 were actually killed and almost all of those were militant combatants.
Such exagerations, sometimes even outright fantasies, repeated even after the “truth” is found out, do little to further your cause.
That so many of you complain about jewish “whining” about their past sufferings, it seems like a case of the pot and the kettle.
Again, all you you, stop whining and do something.
Stop calling for blood and start calling for peace.
I do not think this is “inappropriate” in this forum.
In fact, it is the only thing that is proper.
August 3rd, 2006 at 8:50 am
Salaam from Sydney Australia.
Although my government has not criticised Israel enough & have only meekly called for restraint, please know that the overwhelming majority of my fellow citizens abhor what both sides are doing in this bloody conflict.
Enough already with the Israeli airstrikes & ground troops, but also enough already with the Hezbollah rockets. Both must stop now!
And al Qaeda won’t sitting on their hands too long either. Because they see my govt’s lack of spine as ’support’ for Israel, makes my daily train trip to the city just that little scarier - is tomorrow the day?
August 3rd, 2006 at 9:04 am
Quasimondo,
Did you choose to ignore the rest of the HRW report, or was it an honest mistake?
The same report clearly indicates that its count excludes those gone missing. The poor people trapped under the rubble of the civilian building. The 60+ figure was a preliminary list of all those who were present in the basement of the building.
But enough about that..
Have a look at this report since we all agree Human Rights Watch is worthy of trust..
Read report here
“The 50-page report, “Fatal Strikes: Israel’s Indiscriminate Attacks Against Civilians in Lebanon,” analyzes almost two dozen cases of Israeli air and artillery attacks on civilian homes and vehicles. Of the 153 dead civilians named in the report, 63 are children. More than 500 people have been killed in Lebanon by Israeli fire since fighting began on July 12, most of them civilians.”
Few ARE indeed calling for blood. This is not right, it’s never right, but at this time, it is at least understandable don’t you say?
Peace is the main objective, some ‘think’ they can get there by murdering a population and destroying a nation.
I do not agree, and a lot of Lebanese do not agree.
How does the Israeli population feel about its government’s offensive? How does that same population feel about the Lebanese Government’s 7-point plan?
I realize not all Israelis are like that, many among Israel are peaceful: The media just rarely shows that..
August 3rd, 2006 at 11:24 am
c’est atroce je n’ai pas de mots pour qualifier cette horreur que subisse ces gens. c’est horrible horrible horrible.
August 3rd, 2006 at 11:27 am
Quasimondo,
I guess you didn’t notice that 6 point plan did involve both parties laying down arms. By the way, that 6 point plan is a fantasy and we all know that it would never happen. Please don’t think I condon violence of any type. That includes the violence my own country is resposible for. I was ashamed to be an American when the U.S. military killed Al Zarqawi and our wonderful media spent 5 days showing pictures of his dead body and had hundreds of politicians, ex politicians and analysists on t.v. bragging about how great it is he’s dead. Knowing full well where one falls another will take his place.
I taught my children violence never solves anything. This is a basic fact of life those in power refuse to believe. I believe Israel has good Israeli’s within it’s borders. This I hope the world thinks when they look at America. Unfortunatley it seems a countries news media seems to speak for the country.
My purpose when I came to this site was to leave a message for the people of Lebanon from me. After reading past posts I couldn’t believe there were people here trying to justify what Israel is doing. So here I have stayed like many others trying to educate what I know. Can I change what Israel is doing? No. Can I change what Hezbollah is doing? No. Can I make an attempt to educate or enlighten someone that logs on to this site and say’s something ridiculous like “Lebanon is getting what they deserve”. It is my hope and why I stay. The same reason why Amethyst, Karen, Caroline and all the others that log in from time to time. The webmaster did not set this site up for people like Dani to come here and tell us how wonderful the Israeli government is and all the wonderful contributions Israel has made to this world.
Through education I have learned Israel has a distgusting past that is spilling over into the present. The problem has always been so much of the worlds media has lied to it’s citizens. You seem like a very well educated person to me who has probably done a bit of homework as well. But think of it this way. There are millions…..MILLIONS of people world wide who are not as educated who watch their news maybe once a month and so they get their education by what they hear from others around them. Usually friends and people who share the same beliefs. I didn’t realize the atrocites the Israeli’s had committed until I was in my 30’s and belive it or not it was an HBO program that sparked my interest in finding the truth.
As far as your comment on The Human Rights watch goes. Does it really matter. Do you think people should be killed in one lump sum before the world stands up and say’s NO? 65, 28, 10 or 2 at once or over 600 during the last few weeks. What’s the difference? They are still civillians. I thought you were much smarter than a comment such as that.
My last point for you is that Lebanon is a country much poorer than Israel. They don’t have the military power that Israel posses we all know that but what’s more important than that is that they don’t have the PR power that Israel or the U.S. has either. This is where the educated ones come in. Lebanon needs a voice! Hence “Stop Destroying Lebanon” was created and it is why the same names keep coming up on this board. It is our attempt to make a difference, educate, enlighten and be a voice to a country that does not have one right now.
August 3rd, 2006 at 11:30 am
Soy mexicano y pienso como la mayoria de la gente, ISRAEL Y E:U son lo mismo, DOMINACION, pura y bendita maldad para ellos. El angel de la muerte vuela el líbano y mata a niños y viejitos inocentes, cuerpos desmembrados y descuartizados a diario por culpa de esos hijos de su puta madre tierra. El mundo esta terminando y hay que ponerse a cuentas con DIOS, porque viene bajando con gran furia contra nosotros para quemarnos vivos por la eternidad, asi que mejor hacer lo que cada quien pueda, pero hacerlo bien. Bush es un maricon igaul que los niños israelitas, ¿colocando anuncios en las bombas: “de los niños de Israel con odio para la gente de líbano”???? no mamen, cabrones hijos de la chingada.
August 3rd, 2006 at 3:01 pm
What ??? No comment on the Sun Herald Sun report at:
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,19955774-5007220,00.html
If your “freedom fighters” are going to use civilian areas to fire rockets into Israel knowing full well that Israel will come after them then of course there will be civilian casualties.
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:43 pm
what could we all do to make “noise” and stop this situation?? It’s us from the outside who should make something, what could it be??
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:49 pm
disculpen mi ignorancia, como comenzo todo esto? por que? si alguien tiene tiempo siendo objetivo.
August 3rd, 2006 at 6:16 pm
Has anyone noticed that Ive asked about the “The Belfour Declaration” and how it came about at least 6 times and not one of these Israeli loyalists have dared to give me an answer …….. Why is that do you suppose??? I have also asked about “Kol Nidre” at least 6 times and same …… No answer??
With the Jewish holy day of Yom Kippur (Day of Attonement) comeing up, there will be lots of Jews out praying ‘Kol Nidre’
“For the next twelve months No Oath I make is an Oath, No Pledge I make is A Pledge, No Promise I make is a Promise”
This prayer from a Terrorist state that wants us to sympathise and understand their need for Revenge on the Arabs (Ooooops I meant Self preservation …………. SOOOORRRRREEEEE)
August 3rd, 2006 at 6:23 pm
Webmaster and Shawn,
Please do not mistake my intentions.
I was fully aware of the entirety of the report and that Human Rights Watch has rightly called Israel to task for past actions.
I admire this organization for being mostly impartial, as quick to condemn the actions of any other party (such as Iran or Syria, etc.) as they do with the actions of Israel.
If you’d notice, I still expressed grief over the terrible losses; to me it does not matter the number, whether one or a hundred, this is still something not to be condoned.
What I was trying to get at was the tendency I’ve seen here, and elsewhere, to exaggerate or make up things, sometimes unintentionally, and that there seems also an unwillingness to accept the facts when they come out. The extreme example is the so-called massacre at Jenin; the same untruths are still brought up to this day.
Another case is the picture of the poor palestinian boy killed while cradled in his father’s arms (I’m sorry, I forget his name). This is still shown everywhere as evidence of Israeli heartlessness, even though it was found that he was actually shot by palestinian gunfire.
I’m sorry, I’m not trying to justify Israeli behavior, nor trying to establish any sort of moral equivalence between any sides. For me, there is only one side, the side of humanity, of all of life.
I think what I am trying to say, in my confused way, is that all these things tend to contaminate and poison your what should be a valid position.
When so many people continue to spread rumors, exaggerations and untruths.
When so many people here bring up all the old calumnies against the jewish people that really amounts to demonizing and dehumanizing them, which cannot be seen as other than hatred and racism, then how is a decent person, appalled at all the violence and suffering, how is such a person to welcome these others as comrades, as brothers and sisters, as fellow human beings?
By the way, 8 innocent israelis were killed today by hezbollah rockets.
I don’t ask, or expect, for you to grieve for them (though you should), but I fear many here will have felt only jubilation.
Be honest. With yourselves, if not with the rest of us.
And shawn, if you say that the “numbers” don’t matter, please turn that around and tell that to those people here who say that only israel has any guilt or culpability because their “numbers”, their losses are so much less.
Do you get what I am saying?
All this has to stop!
And webmaster, it is my understanding that israel has always had a very strong peace movement, has always had many of their people, their writers and musicians and artists, even their politicians, who were always against any occupations or settlements or any oppressive behavior.
Why not help these people to flourish, instead of cultivating situations where this is so difficult.
Certainly, calling for their destruction, their annhilation, almost the whole world thinking that anti-semitism is somehow the last acceptable form of racism, does little to engender the proper groundwork for this.
August 3rd, 2006 at 7:01 pm
To Quasimondo
You are also are a goodhearted but somewhat misguided soul. You will not know the truth until you have lived through the brutality of it. I too believed as you do …….. But you need to understand that a lot of what the Israelies have said (and Im talking about the government here, not the good people of Israel), have been lies and double lies, because of their control of the Media they can control what is told of this tragedy and what is never to see the light of day. I do not hate Jews . I do not wish death to any of them anymore than I wish death on my own Lebanese people. The deaths overnight were tragic and unnessary (on both sides of this conflict of Israels RIGHT to DEFEND itself) When do we stop hearing that particular reportoir as the excuse for what they have done to Lebanon and its people ……. Please do not believe that Israel has the honorable duty of protecteing the Middle East and Itself from the threat of Terrorist. Israel gives cause for these Terrorist to exist everyday …….. They are now, as we type and read these posts creating more young ‘Terrorist’. They act like Terrorist and then claim to be defending their RIGHT to exist.
WHEN ARE THESE DOUBLE STANDARDS GOING TO STOP
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE PALESTINIANS ALSO HAVE A RIGHT TO EXIST. A RIGHT THAT HAS BEEN STRIPPED AWAY FROM THEM FOR DECADES, UNDER THE OPPRESSIVE OCCUPATION OF THE ISRAELIES.
WHY QUASIMONDO WHY WHY WHY????
August 3rd, 2006 at 7:23 pm
Quasimondo,
You say your are taking the side of humanity, and you say you are not trying to establish any moral equivelance between any sides, yet you are.
It is clear which side also, Israel. So IF Israel were to nuke a people and killed millions, since you are on the side of humanity, you must enlighten those that do not spend as much time on the figures that do not sympathize with Israel in the name of humanity. But Israel is not using it’s nukes, it is just using grossly more powerful destructive weapons at a grossly higher rate and killing a grossly more number of people and saying it is grossly more justified in its gross control of the regional areas and peoples… do you feel you must spend time educating those to see that Israel may be justified before this ever happened if it ever would?…..or are you merely just trying to explain the day to day damage of each rocket coming from Lebanon into Israel to be fair , but do not want to compare ,in the name of humanity. So to not compare, to not “establish moral equivelance” but at the same time very easily dismissing the entire facts and entire gross misjustices of Israel in order to be a spokesperson for humanity and in order to say you are impartial is very confusing to me, sorry
August 3rd, 2006 at 8:03 pm
After another sleepless night I awake to find that there have been yet more deaths in my country (from both sides). I want to put something forward her for allthose that support Israel ………..
Why are you alright to send young men to the almost inevitable death?
Why are you alright to send these same young men to kill young babies and dehumanise a nation of innocent people?
Why are you alright with sitting back in your safe home and watching this carnage that is taking place and not getting mad about the wasted lives that have perished and knowing that with certainty that there will be more (on both sides of this disaster)?
OH YES!!! I forgot!!! They are SORRY for those innocent lives that have beeen obliterated. And THEY ARE ALSO SORRY for those that have yet to be scaraficed.
If they are truely SORRY about these barbaric attrocities taking place …….. How can they still try to Justify it by saying
BUT………………………………
They all didi it to Israel first ….. The Palestinian Suicde Bombers, Hamas, Hezballah, Katuchya Rockets, The Kidnappings, The killing of Innocents, The blowing up of restaurants and buses etc etc etc etc etc
Yes!!! Believe Me!!! I had noticed and have been truely saddened each time these events took place …….
Not that it should be about numbers ……. BUT PLEASE DO THE MATHS AND OPEN YOUR EYES …….. On all The YEARS that these attrocities have been committed against the Israeli people, they are nothing in comparisson to the Israeli government has inflicted on my country in LESS THAN ONE MONTH ……..
I would like to put forward this proposal …………..
Why cant Israel (The Rightous) Announce an IMMEDIATE and TOTAL CEASEFIRE. And demand that as soon as this is announced, Hezballah do the same (as they have already stated time and again that they will). And given how Israel is the one always ACCIDENTLY hitting innocent civillians with their state of the art surgical hits and are causing more damage not only on the human scale but also that of Lebanons infrastructure (All the while remembering that Israel has said they are not at war with Lebanon). And given how Hezballah (The Terrorists) are mostly hitting mountain sides (OK, they have had a few indirect hits) Hmmmmmmmmz!!!! compare that to how many 1000s of DIRECT HITS Israel has reigned down on Lebanon………………
What does Israel, who seems to be losing the Humanitarian war and even the favour of people after this war finally STOPS. You gotta admit Israel is losing a lot more support than it is gaining sympathy with its record so far…………….
What would happen if Israel truely showed some compassion for those innocents being killed and yet to be killed by calling and initiating AN IMMEDIATE AND TOTAL CEASEFIRE FIRST???
And if, as they would have us believe that Hezballah contiues to fire rockets into Israel ………. This will only be a win win situation for Israel. Wouldnt you think that if this was to happen that those opposing Israel now would look kindly on Israel magnanamous offer, and at the same time expose Hezballah for the Terrorist Organisation that Israel claim them to be???
And haveing agreed to AN IMMEDIATE AND TOTAL CEASEFIRE, Israel would also be looked on favourably for allowing a SAFE and secure corridor for AID and HUMANITARIAN resources to reach those who are in desperate need of these agencies, with no hope and no help,no food and very little water (im assuming they must have some, but how and where from Im not sure), No Cars and No Petrol,No roads to travel safely on if they did manage to have both car and petrol. These poor people have been isolated for a month, giving those who are able to flee their entrapment a safe passage to do so. Can you imagine the TERROR of their days and nights. Im sure that no Israeli (in modern times) has had to endure theis TERROR non stop for this length of time. (I could be wrong, but that still doesnt make it right).Dont you think that that would be the Honourable thing to do. (Although I ask you, is anyone who justifies war of any kind ever honourable). Dont you think that if Israel took this innitiative and Hezballah didnt follow suit, it would once and for all convince all those doubters that Hezballah truely are the Evil Terrorist Israel has called them.
Tell me wouldnt this be a far easier solution given how Israel is trying to convince us that it is fighting a just war and only trying to protect its (ever growing) borders. Wouldnt this expose Hezballah as the low life savages that Israel claims them to be.
WHY DOESNT ISRAEL WHO CLAIMS TO ONLY WANT PEACE WITH ITS NEIGHBOURS BE THE BIGGER NATION AND CALL AN IMMEDIATE AND TOTAL CEASEFIRE ………………. They have very little to lose and a whole lot to win if they take this innitiative……………………
August 3rd, 2006 at 8:36 pm
It´s a shame what we see in this images. I have no other word to express how I fell about this war and what I fell about the Israele people and Governemment. So many lifes wasted for what? There´s no excuse for this, terrorism should not be fought with more terrorism.
August 3rd, 2006 at 9:39 pm
Amethyst,
Please be the beautiful jewel that your name represents and get rid of the ugly flaw within you that is hatred and racism.
Please bear with me as I attempt to explain, in my bumbling manner, what I mean, as people seem to be misinterpreting what I have been trying to express.
First of all, as you are Lebanese, you can certainly be forgiven any reaction that I might disapprove of more vehemently in others.
It is well known that the abused often become abusers, those that are victims of racism or oppression also, all to often, become racists and oppressors themselves.
And I would always place the onus for all this on the “original” offender, not on the victim.
Thus, it is ludicrous for whites in the u.s. to denounce affirmative action programs, claiming these to be “racist” in nature, as if these white people all of a sudden became perfect egalitarians, perfectly “color blind”. Other times, though, it is more like a vicious circle, no “origin” to be found, but endlessly perpetuating.
So I understand and would completely forgive your reactions, if it was my place to do so (it is not) yet at the same time I would encourage you to look deeper into your heart for your own benefit first and foremost.
Please forgive me if I seem harsh.
No, I have not been through this tragedy, but I have travelled extensively throughout the world, and have witnessed so much suffering, most of it completely unnecessary.
What I have found is that everybody, everybody, suffers the same.
And anyone, anyone, who inflicts this suffering I thorougly detest.
Of course, those who do this always have their “reasons”, their “justifications”.
But all of this is just weak rationalizations for their own dead hearts, at best completely misguided nonsense.
This is why I have been so shocked by the feelings expressed by so many here, because they are exactly like the rationalizations given by those who commit all these evil actions.
Amethyst, when you say “jews control the media” this is like saying “all muslims are terrorists”.
When others say that israel and the jews should be exterminated or driven from their homes, this is like those who would wish to wipe out all the arabs.
When you bring up all the old nonsense to somehow “prove” that jews have some hidden agenda, that they can act without compunction, that they have vast territorial designs, etc., all these things should not even be debated, it debases all of us to do so.
Beacause every human being, every single one of them, is equal to every other one; everyone, black, white, brown, jew, muslim, christian, hindu, atheist, palestinian, israeli, canadian, indian, inuit, short people, fat people, smart people, morons, black-haired, curly-haired, big-footed, innies or outies, whatever. No one has more value than anyone else. No one.
What is repugnant is that so many have searched for “proof” of these differences.
The only conceivable purpose for such an endeavour is to manufacture those justifications and rationalizations that would allow us to become the oppressor, the slave owner, the exploiter.
And it is ironic that modern science, as someone noted a while back, has proven that there is really no such thing as race, that the genetic differences beween us are negligible at best. Yet so many continue to hold on tight to this terrible “myth”.
We must give this up, Amethyst, abandon this notion completely, you, me, everyone must do this.
This is what I have been trying to get across. This is why I have found it so sad that you, and others, who I also believe to be “good” people would let this disease, this “cancer” to grow within them.
I completely agree with you about what Israel should do. I have been saying that all along.
Both Israel and now (finally) Hezbollah have said that they will stop once the other has stopped.
The catch, of course, is that it is the “other” who must go first.
Stupid, stupid, stupid!!!
In my mind, as I hope in yours as well, the moral victor will be the one who is the first to lay down his arms.
I fear many here would take that as a “defeat” for Israel, if they were the ones, as a humiliation, as sign of weakness, as another triumph for the mighty hezbollah.
That would be a grave error.
Instead, we should celebrate this, welcome it with joy.
Right now, as I, and a few others, have been suggesting, is that we must encourage all sides to behave in this manner, not under threat of worse violence, of annihilation, or under a cloud of hatred and vile aspersions, but because this is the only proper way for humans to behave. For all humans.
It is that simple.
I hope you all agree, because this message seems to have gotten lost under so much else…
August 3rd, 2006 at 10:03 pm
Hey Shawn,
So 2000 (I’m sure very well paid) members of the IDF have been hired to come to web sites like this and spread their propoganda?
I wonder, has one single one of your little minds been changed even one iota?
Has even one of you budged even one inch towards consideration that jews might actually be human beings?
I thougnt not.
So what an enormous wast of time, effort and money.
And we all know how those damned jews as so tight-fisted with their money (of which they own 99% of the entire world’s, and start all the conflicts and wars because they are lusting after that last percent).
Greedy jew pigs!!!
Those damned IDF are probably using there wifis to steal the bandwith of innocent lebanese and palestinians so they don’t have to pay for their own internet.
Death to JEWS!!!
Long LIve Hezbollah!!!
August 3rd, 2006 at 10:05 pm
The jewish people’s “god” has been looking out for them????
Excuse me while I open a window, for a stench suddenly is upon me.
The jewish people’s “god” is the American Public’s tax dollars.
The jewish people’s “god” is the World Bank.
The jewish people’s “god” is the Zionist movement.
The jewish people’s “god” is the Federal Reserve.
The jewish people’s “god” is the Powerful USA Media.
The jewish people’s “god” is the Money Generating holocaust.
The jewish people’s “god’ is the fantastic amounts of Weapons of Mass Destruction and Nuclear Weapons they have in there country isreal – again courtesy of American Tax Dollars.
And THAT my little pebble head (which is about three times the size of your heart and about half as dark as your soul) is why……
there are over 680 of Lebanon’s Dead (as of this writing) since July 12, 2006 (with only 68 isreali citizens dead)
thousands and thousands of countless Iraqi citizen’s Dead since March 2002
And God only knows how many scores of thousands of Palestinians Dead since 1945.
(I haven’t even mentioned the atrocities committed by zionists in other parts of the world and all the tragedies reaped upon Lebanon in times before)
And THAT my little pebble head (which is about three times the size of your heart and about half as dark as your soul) is why….
The isreali people are so much safer in their bomb shelters with their bomb sirens warning them of oncoming rockets.
God must surely find your arrogance, your sociopathic rants most repulsive at best.
August 3rd, 2006 at 10:12 pm
The real peace starts inside of our heart! If everyone make your part in your family, in your city and in yourself the wourld turn up bettter and this little power can develop and change the wourld!Peace is not a magic word, it’s a little seed !And this seed is growing up inside of the hearts.So, believe in Jesus Christ, He’s the real peace, the real truth and the real love!!!!!God bless the wourld!Your sister in Christ, Angelica.
August 3rd, 2006 at 10:33 pm
Palestine,
You completely misconstrue or misunderstand me if you think I have sided with Israel or have tried to justify their actions. Please go back and read more carefully.
What I have constantly stressed and pointed out, though, is that to dehumanize, to demonize, to express hatred and, indeed, racism, towards an entire group of people, whether they are religious or not (many jewish people are actually completely secular), whether they are israeli or not, whether they agree with the israeli government or not, even whether or not some even believe there should be a “jewish” state, that, somehow, all these people are valid targets for murder and revenge, these types of argument do much to spoil your very just cause.
Do you understand? Give up on all this hatred and racism. Give up the Holy Quest that some of you have undertaken to somehow prove that there is justification for this kind of abhorrent belief. The very task is demeaning and degrading.
And it does absolutely nothing to ameliorate this grievous situation, for it is the very same type of argument that is used against you.
So I say all this to the Israelis as well, and as strongly.
I don’t care, and it does not matter, who is more at fault, who is more to blame. It is no real comfort if you are a little less brutal, a little less evil. This is a contest, a race, which everyone loses.
Either way, and to whatever degree, this is a sickness that will always be fatal, a cancer that is always terminal.
Do I make myself clear?
Let the philosophers and pundits debate until the end of time, if they wish, the minutiae of cause and effect, the labyrinth of political, national, and religious forces, of conflicting rights, of just motives and vengefull ones, let them get lost in all of this trying to achieve comprehension.
The rest of us must act more quickly, more immediately.
We must act as one, and forget all these things which divide us.
August 4th, 2006 at 1:06 am
Angelica Thank you so much for your lovely words may God look over and protect you always.
Quasimondo may God also protect you and keep your heart pure, because you do have a good and honest heart.
But I have to disagree with some of your comments.
When I talk about the Israelies I am refering only to their government, the warmongers who blind their people with lies and cover ups as they do with the rest of us.
I understand what you say about love and tolerance and a need to accept all people no matter what their race or religion. Which is how I live my life. I judge people for who they are not what they are. But I am sorry that love ran out for the Jewish government and their hidden agendas from years ago. I do not hate the Jewish people nor do I deny them a right to live in peace and safety. But my good hearted friend their government has denied this to the palestinian people for decades now. ANd on a much smaller scale the Lebanese people. I have personally experience their “SONIC BOOM” flyovers of the entire country ……. And this during a time when they were supposed to have no quarrel with Lebanon. Israel is the one creating Terrorist by its own actions against the Palestinians and now the Lebanese. Please remember your words ………
……… It is well known that the abused often become abusers, those that are victims of racism or oppression also, all to often, become racists and oppressors themselves. And I would always place the onus for all this on the “original” offender, not on the victim.
No, I have not been through this tragedy, but I have travelled extensively throughout the world, and have witnessed so much suffering, most of it completely unnecessary.
What I have found is that everybody, everybody, suffers the same. ( I agree with this)
And anyone, anyone, who inflicts this suffering I thorougly detest. (And this is where I am on the Israeli government)
And I beg to differ with you on the point that by say the Jews control the media would be the same as saying all Muslims are terrorist. You see my friend I know with all my heart that NOT ALL MUSLIMS are TERRORIST. But it is a well known and quite TRUE that the JEWS do control the MEDIA in the Western World and the Finance. This is why so many of the worlds leaders are scared to stand up to Israel NOW. Who do you think controls the US government ….. Do you honestly believe an Idiot like Geroge Dubbya Bush is capable of running the worlds “MOST” powerful country. Why Id be surprised if he can even tie his own shoe laces. Please look at this mans history in the White House and tell me Im wrong. He falls over himself to try and please those that are pulling his strings (The Neo Cons …… Who are mostly Jewish) I know this sounds like a Jewish witch hunt ……. But the truth is that they have gotten awy withit for too long and now we all have to stand up against them.
I have no hatred nor racism in my heart Quasimondo. But I have had enough of this certain group of people who are trying to control the world for everyone else and if you dont agree with them …….. they will find a way to bring you down, beause their powers and influences are FAR reaching. I have just this last week personally been warned to tone my views down or I could be placing myself or worse still my family in the spotlight. And this from a friend of my family who 30years ago tried to stand up to these people and had all sorts of trumped up charges brought against them and had their children taken away from them, and had to fight to prove their innocence over a two year period. The charges were eventually dropped, because they had no basis. This is not some far fetched story either, it was in all the Australian newspapers at the time and it was an operation that covered more than one state.
So please do not think me racist or hateful …….. I have known and have lived the TRUTH of what these evil people do to those that oppose them.
GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
August 4th, 2006 at 1:16 am
PEACE TO THOSE THAT TRUELY SEEK IT
August 4th, 2006 at 1:51 am
Even after all this, it is shameful that the American media can still promulgate the racist idea that no arab could possibly have any justified complaint against Israel. A peace treaty will be signed in the next few days but it will take generations to forget the hatred created by this horrid destruction of innocent life. If no lasting peace is ever reached for the Middle East, that is because this is what we have claimed since the beginning of conflicts. We comforted ourselves with this lie while blindly continuing to do what inflamed the hostilities in the first place. God, Allah, Yahweh, help us all, especially the innocest…
August 4th, 2006 at 2:01 am
Sorry Quasimondo AND TOO ALL OF THE SAME OPINIONS, “I wish” it was but it’s not that simple.
Also I’m sick of all the F#%%$G bullshit and fake peace theories!!!
You want the truth…this is the truth..
As you said you have’nt been through this.
You must understand it’s immposible to forgive&forget when you’ve seen the dead only inches away from you. And the dead are your FAMILY. It scarrs you Emotionally, Psychologically and Physically. It hurts deeper and deeper and deeper when you cant defend back with other than rocks. Or as we see now human bombs. Tradgic but real!!
As for the children for the last 50-60 years that have been through this, they need no one tell them not to be angry or hate or how they should think of peace with Israel.
Unfortunately the reallity or truth, so many speak of, is this…
A child born 1970 in these condition has been scarred…
This is the same kid in 1990, 20years later only thinks of revenge for the mother, father, sister and home “he or for that matter she” saw dead and destroyed through yet another Israeli invasion again and again and again.
Abviously this is the same horror life for the Child born 1990 and now 2006 a 26 year old.
The Israeli aggression, creates this again and brings it on them selves Now in 2006!!!
It’s very obvious to me and 99% of the world agree, that the Israeli Philosophy and aggression is only to destroy, kill and hurt Lebanon (and surrounding) us much and as quick as possible!!
The more inhumane wrong than Israel has shown now, is that it has repeated this in the past, to to often.
There is no peace in this current Israeli government.
There may be in the innocent jews that have no choice, but not in the political movement. It’s pure evil, pure pure evil that feeds on the blood of the innocent.
No one can never ever ever understand the state of mind of a child growing up like this.
No one can ever understand the inner pain that is felt when when you see and hear this kid of 3yrs,5yrs,and 7yrs, running around, crying and screaming looking for his mother or father that are dead. To hear and see this is pure horror that lives and echoes in your mind for ever.
Stop this evil, stop it now. It can only come back to Israel. It will haunt forever the govrenment of Israel. The blood of your own people is on your own hands. The children born into this horror are not terrorsists. They fight for freedom. They are your creation Israel (government). Look with in your walls to see the nature of the evil beast. You must stop the killing.
This is not an opinion. Anything else is a lie!
This is the TRUTH.
This is the TRUTH.
Viva Lebanon.
August 4th, 2006 at 2:01 am
Sorry Quasimondo AND TOO ALL OF THE SAME OPINIONS, “I wish” it was but it’s not that simple.
Also I’m sick of all the F#%%$G bullshit and fake peace theories!!!
You want the truth…this is the truth..
As you said you have’nt been through this.
You must understand it’s immposible to forgive&forget when you’ve seen the dead only inches away from you. And the dead are your FAMILY. It scarrs you Emotionally, Psychologically and Physically. It hurts deeper and deeper and deeper when you cant defend back with other than rocks. Or as we see now human bombs. Tradgic but real!!
As for the children for the last 50-60 years that have been through this, they need no one tell them not to be angry or hate or how they should think of peace with Israel.
Unfortunately the reallity or truth, so many speak of, is this…
A child born 1970 in these condition has been scarred…
This is the same kid in 1990, 20years later only thinks of revenge for the mother, father, sister and home “he or for that matter she” saw dead and destroyed through yet another Israeli invasion again and again and again.
Abviously this is the same horror life for the Child born 1990 and now 2006 a 26 year old.
The Israeli aggression, creates this again and brings it on them selves Now in 2006!!!
It’s very obvious to me and 99% of the world agree, that the Israeli Philosophy and aggression is only to destroy, kill and hurt Lebanon (and surrounding) us much and as quick as possible!!
The more inhumane wrong than Israel has shown now, is that it has repeated this in the past, to to often.
There is no peace in this current Israeli government.
There may be in the innocent jews that have no choice, but not in the political movement. It’s pure evil, pure pure evil that feeds on the blood of the innocent.
No one can never ever ever understand the state of mind of a child growing up like this.
No one can ever understand the inner pain that is felt when when you see and hear this kid of 3yrs,5yrs,and 7yrs, running around, crying and screaming looking for his mother or father that are dead. To hear and see this is pure horror that lives and echoes in your mind for ever.
Stop this evil, stop it now. It can only come back to Israel. It will haunt forever the govrenment of Israel. The blood of your own people is on your own hands. The children born into this horror are not terrorsists. They fight for freedom. They are your creation Israel (government). Look with in your walls to see the nature of the evil beast. You must stop the killing.
This is not an opinion. Anything else is a lie!
This is the TRUTH.
This is the TRUTH.
Viva Lebanon.
August 4th, 2006 at 2:17 am
Quasimondo, I know you mean well but please leave this issue alone.I wish you peace in your life. Peace to you Angelica. Also a lota love to all who see and live the truth.
Viva Lebanon.
August 4th, 2006 at 3:53 am
Amethyst - you keep asking about the Balfour Declaration and Kol Nidre.
Wouldn’t it be much easier for you to give them the article upon which you have based your understanding of these two questions?
No, you don’t want to, well I will. Following is a link where Benjamin Freedman’s article can be read which refers to both the Balfour Declaration and Kol Nidre and which I think it is safe to assume Amethyst basis her provovative questions:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/benjamin.htm
And here is the site of the those who sponsor such material, material that would be at home on sites of the KKK and the League of Rights:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/
Now if anyone is really interested in learning about these topics they can visit wikipedia at:
Balfour Declaration: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
Kol Nidre: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kol_Nidre
August 4th, 2006 at 4:29 am
I thought some people might find this article interesting.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/08/03/1154198265594.html
PEACE TO ALL WHO TRUELY SEEK IT.
THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL
August 4th, 2006 at 4:43 am
Here a couple more ……….. In the end you make up your own mind as to what you believe. Im just here to pass on my opinion.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/08/03/1154198272547.html
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/07/31/1154198074335.html
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/08/01/1154198139798.html
PEACE TO ALL WHO TRUELY SEEK IT
THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL
August 4th, 2006 at 5:08 am
Truth…this is truth… A child running around screaming and crying looking for his mother and father that are DEAD. His screams echo in your head for the rest of your life. You wish to forget, bu you cant.
Truth.. seeing the dead, inches away from you is a horror that wakes from your sleep.
Truth… when the dead you see is your mum and dad.
Truth… this kid grows up with one meaning to his life. REVENGE! You are not taught this.There are no lessons in this. No one can teach you revenge.
Truth… is when your sitting in your dads lap and he’s nudged to the head at an Israeli army check point by the butt of an M16 on your own soil !!!!
Truth… for the last 50-60 years the children who lost there family and home
grow up knowing the enemy.
Truth…when your 5yrs old, what on earth will enable you to understand that the Israeli political movement(government) really meant you no harm??!!
Truth… this is the evil beast called Israel (government)not the innocent. You have planted the hate in this child who now is a man and sees you doing exactly the same as when he was that 5 year old. F–K you you evil monster. F&%K you.
Truth…you are your own worst enemy Israeli government. An evil monster who hurts the weak and brings pain and bloodied bullshit politics to the land. History an ugly history repeats it self.
Truth.. anything else is LIES. STOP THE KILLING YOU EVIL BEAST.
Peace to all who see and live the truth.
Viva Lebanon.
August 4th, 2006 at 6:38 am
Quasimondo,
I read your thoughts again, all of your mails….I feel the same as I thought in my mail you responded to. You keep talking about basic common sense human good values, and you talk about rascism ect. I was not rascist in my mail but yet you continued on about rascism, nor do I need a baby lecture on common sense in values but what I find interesting with you is that you seem to want to dismiss and avoid facts that have led to the complete opposite of basic human values. Webmaster does not need your lecture or explanation on figures you seem to be aware of in your own style concerning Qana deaths or Jenin or Israeli peace groups. Perhaps you should thank him for setting up a place on the net to give support to those oppressed, and also thank Jewish peace groups. Spare everyone the race card and if your such a humanitarian, get in touch with whatever government you have and tell them to help stop destroying Lebanon. I see through you, if your really think you are as smart as you want others, than start to learn why suffering starts, so that it could be avoided not repeated.So your attitude which I can see is very simplistic but yet rascist in it’s own way, avoids responsibility. And because your view is so unchanged and so even in a situation that to any informed outsider was never impartial or even , your” humanitarian” attitude easily overshadows the facts to whoever is impartial or not involved. Thus the cycle repeats, just like with Lebanon. Hezbolla kills and so does Israel, both are killing, yes. But both will remain killers with your simplistic and biased attitude. You have to get to the roots of problems and issues and solve them in order to start healing. The Jewish people who suffered so greatly in such barbaric ways during the Holacaust would not have appreciated your attitude during that time, they want to focus on the oppressors, the nazis and how to make sure that Germany never again becomes so evil with the desease of nazism. But in this case, it seems you see no need to concentrate on any side, because you feel that people are rascist who look at facts and thus support those oppressed. Do not be so simplistic, to avoid what needs to be accounted for in order for healing to take place, and in order for peace to start sowing its seeds. As you say, there will always be reasons and justifications on both sides, so then concentrate on facts and issues as an outsider and become unbiased. If you are unbiased, then the facts in history should be your concern, from there you move on and become a humanitarian by supporting those that are oppressed. From there you concentrate on stopping the oppressor and addressing issues through facts. Everybody suffers, everybody feels pain, yes we all know that. There are rascists in the world, yes we all know that. Lebanon should not resist?Lebanon should show itself to take the moral high ground and let bombs fall on without any fight ? To show moral high ground? that is not the point here, it does not address the issue and does not stop the oppressor since the oppressor has not been justified to begin with and the oppressor thinks it has the moral high ground to begin with. So there is no accountablility or justice, no peace to prevail, no humanitarian issues addressed and stopped, just continued to another date, and Israel will not be taught any values to stop there behaviours to reoccur in the future without any accountability.look at how the Jewish people suffered when they were most vulnerable, helpless women and children and elders during hitlers insanity. So how do you solve this from repeating itself, the world went after the oppressor, Germany and the system hatred of nazism.Germans suffered also but to focus on that at the time would not have stopped the war. Germans felt they were the ultimate race,but you are so biased now you can not learn from history and can not separate a Jewish person from an Arab, because if you could you would see the Arabs as the oppressed in the middle east and you would not spend your time twisting and watering down the facts and telling us it is not about that.I am sure many very decent and unbiased Jewish peoples had justified hatred and had to come to terms with it in a long long healing process, but I am sure their suffering and pain in heart from the world war 2 is greater than their hatred. But that was not the issues during those war years. If you want to solve this issue betweeen these countries in the middle east, then you have to do your research in order to help. But now, everyone can see what is going on, so what is your excuse in the name of humanity? These people do not want YOUR “philosophy and pundit debate,” they are suffering in the past because of facts that were not addressed and now it repeats itself. This is one of many issues and facts ignored as well as the suffering ignored through the decades in the middle east. Do not play the race card as you come up with “Israeli” facts……..”do you understand”as you say….”do I make myself clear” as you say. But that is enough, time to focus on injustice, not creating hatred with lame ignorance, sorry to be so harsh. You want peace, humanity, then help the oppressed, no matter what color or what religion. To help the oppressed , you can start by aknowledging their suffering understanding it, not lecturing them about rascism and the evils of hate as they are being oppressed. All normal people wish peace to everyone, that is not what is at issue here. So please, next time an oppressed people have their people killed, do not rationalise so quickly to bring the number down a couple of people and think you are being fair and then respond so arrogantly again to the people on this site and the webmaster who in my opinion is trying to get facts out in order to stop the oppressor. Israel is and has been the oppressor in the case of Palestine and Lebanon. A true unbiased humanitarian would see that clearly.
August 4th, 2006 at 7:55 am
Israel is the only country in the world both ethnically jewish and jewish in religion. Even Turkey Republic has different ethnic groups though being mostly Muslim in religion. Everbody knows what Jews had suffered through out the 2nd World War and they used the ache and grief of those masssacres in the World’s most important countiries just to gain land. They bought that land. They did not put up a fight, they don’t know what bloodshed means to save a piece of land. They believe they had a right to destroy an innocent country by bombing all around it. Ten years ago they did the same in Qana in 1996. Everbody will remember a headless baby photo who was murdered by a bomb that exploded in their shelter. Israel always bombs civillian shelters and later claims not to know anything about it. And the United Nation which was founded to bring peace to world and yet never achieved it still sits around doing nothing. Israel always bombs Qana bec it was where the first miracle of Jesus was seen. They always bombs children just to destroy the youg population for future. They’re trying to finish what they had started ten years ago claiming back their two lost soldiers.
1st World War started because a Serbian Soldier killed an Austrian ambassador (Excuse of a war???)History repeats itself
The countries we look for an aid will always sit back and watch because they also have their eyes on these lands for as long as we knew our history. They want the sea costs to have more active trading and the petroleum and of course minimum Muslim population is better for their benefits. So they watch like they did in the Bosnia Herzogovnia/Serbia war that continued in the middle of Europe for many years.
Israel had the mercy of those countries and used it ruthlessly, however now is the time to change it vice versa. The photos of what they did to an innocent country and its people is all around the world. Especially again a dead body of a baby, a pacifier stil in his mouth… Muslim countiries will one day get united and show Israel where they belong, hope not too late.
Peace cannot be gained by killing innocents, poor babies,elders. The number of the mothers arrived in our country cannot be underestimated, they had no food,no water,no shelter and only a bedspread to cover a 6 months old baby from the burning sun.
Headless baby of ten years ago and you the innocents won’t be forgotten. We apologize to you for the World’s injustice to you.
August 4th, 2006 at 8:13 am
Amethyst,
I am really sorry to have to keep telling you this, but the views you have expressed do indeed go way beyond a very justifiable criticism of the Israeli government actions and very deeply into a very real racism.
You say that your comments, your beliefs are not racist because they are “true”.
Amethyst, amethyst, like I said before, that is the refrain of all racists.
Blacks are inferior, muslims are terrorists, aboriginals are savages, jews are greeedy and control the media and finance, etc.
It does not matter if any of these things were true (which none of them most definitely are not), to hold any of these beliefs in most definitely and categorically racist.
At least admit this much, as some here have done, as groups such as the KKK have done.
It is my strongest opionion that accepting or trying to justify such racism, of whatever stripe, hurts us all, and makes us all less than human.
If I believed in God I would say that this would be the greatest sin against him.
I find it completely repugnant to answer such positions, to oppose, point by point, the tenets of a racist, as if those who hold those views would ever listen, would ever be reasonable or logical, would ever accept any facts that did not support their “case”.
But, because I believe also that there is still some humanity left within you, I will stoop to answer some of the nonsense (I am sorry, but it is nothing but) that you seem so unwilling to give up.
First anecdotal evidence is not proof of anything.
One cigarette smoker may live to be a hundred; does this mean that smoking is not harmful for our health?
One muslim may be a terrorist; does this make all of them so?
Or you may have a bad experience with a jewish person, or a hundred. But it does not mean that they are all so.
Okay, okay, so you do your investigations (but oh, such a sad task, trying to become a racist), you listen to rumors, to innuendos, to half-truths, and outright lies. You want to believe these things because, somehow, they line up with your “experience”, or with your prior prejudices (racism is much worse than prejudice, or is a particularly offensive and dangerous form of it). Those facts you encounter which go against these views are dismissed outright and without a second thought.
So I will briefly address a few of your points, loathe as I am to do so.
First, regarding jewish power, both through the media and finance:
Let me ask you this, why, at present is almost the entire world (except the u.s.) arrayed against them (as they should be, although, in many cases it is for hypocritical reasons)?
If they control all the media, how can this be so?
How can this be the case, not just now, but as long as I can remember (all those u.n. resolutions and such)?
If they had this power, why could they have not done anything to prevent their personal tragedy during the second world war, where not only palestine, under britain, rejected their refugees, but also most other countries, including, please note, their supposed puppet, the u.s., consigning so many of them to be slaughtered?
Why, if their financial power is so great, do they need the measly prop of some 10 billions in u.s. aid, which so many here claim that, if deprived, would cause them to crumble?
Why, if their financial power and influence is so all-encompassing, do the Saudis, for instance, have trillions (yes, thats trillions) of dollars invested in the u.s., and why are these saudis allowed to fund the training of religious extremists throught the world, in pakistan and the middle east, in africa, in europe, even so much in the u.s.?
These same extremists, mostly wahabis, who, unlike the more mild and natural “prejudice” of mainstream muslims, will never entertain even a thought of compromise with the jews, let alone ever accept them as equals.
How could the jews, if they had such influence, such power, such control over all things financial, how could they let such things come to pass?
And why, pray tell (although this has more to do with the u.s.), being such puppet masters, evil and twisted, were not even a few measly wmds planted in iraq?
Would this not have helped there “cause” immensely, saved them from so much embarrasment and humiliation?
Any such “power” that they have must be considered inefficient and ineffective, at best.
So you say that no one has come to help the lebanese, not the u.n. nor anyone else.
So this must be because the jews stopped them?
Come on, get real! Since when has the u.n. (or any other country) ever been anything but ineffectual and weak, when has any country really acted except for its own selfish intersests?
Where were they in Rwanda, in Yugoslavia, in Iraq and Iran? Where are they now in Sudan or Somalia? Or so many other places.
So many millions and millions killed. So many millions and millions more suffering.
Yet the world mainly ignores all of this, as they mainly ignore the situation in Lebanon now.
Next, about the Balfour Declaration, here it is in its entirety:
Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917
Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty’s Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.
“His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”
I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.
Yours sincerely, Arthur James Balfour
Please note that while it supports a “national home” for the jewish people, it also explicity and categorically maintains the civil, religious and political rights of all non-jewish groups as well.
You should be aware that not even all arabs or muslims opposed this.
Indeed, on January 3, 1919 Prince Faisal (who later became the first king of Iraq) and Chaim Weizmann (later first president of Israel) actually signed an agreement approving the Balfour Declaration and its implementation.
That this agreement was later made void when the british reneged on their promise for arab independence does not negate the fact that this document is far from the instance of jewish perfidy you make it out to be.
Yes, there were also complicated political reasons behind this, some of which can only be contrued as selfish, but there was a movement on the german side as well to make such a declaration, made infeasible by their alliance with the ottomans.
You can read more on this in the wikipedia article or other sources. Please try to get a broader view, don’t retain such a narrow perspective.
Now, on to the Kol Nidre.
What you have done here is all taken out of context and out of practice.
Here again is the entire prayer:
“All vows, obligations, oaths, and anathemas, whether called ‘konam,’ ‘konas,’ or by any other name, which we may vow, or swear, or pledge, or whereby we may be bound, from this Day of Atonement until the next (whose happy coming we await), we do repent. May they be deemed absolved, forgiven, annulled, and void, and made of no effect; they shall not bind us nor have power over us. The vows shall not be reckoned vows; the obligations shall not be obligatory; nor the oaths be oaths.”
What all of you seem to ignore, besides the misconstruing of the language employed, is the “we do repent” part.
In other words, they are sorry for their failures and ask for forgiveness.
You should also be aware that the language of this has sometimes been changed, most notably that the time frame has changed from the past tense to the future, but that the intent (asking for forgiveness) remains the same.
What is also ignored (or forgotten) is that this is a prayer, not a statement of facts or intentions to brazenly make false promises.
Here, simply, is how most, if not all, jewish people practice this:
Yom Kippur is the holiest day on the Jewish calendar.
It is a day of deepest sorrow, a day of the most humble repentance.
It is a day to beg forgiveness from all those you have wronged.
It is a day to beg forgiveness from God.
This is what is meant by the prayer: From this year to next (originally from last year to the present), for all those I have wronged, the promises I may fail to keep (most importantly the covenant made with god to act always in a proper way), for whatever reasons, whatever excuses, I am and will be truly sorry, I repent completely, and I ask forgiveness, from those I have wronged, as I will forgive those who have wronged me.
Please allow this, so that my soul might once again become pure and worthy.
There is nothing at all vile in this, Ametyst. No matter how much you might twist the words to make them seem evil that is most definitely not the way it is ever practiced.
If you actually knew any jewish people (as I do, though I am not jewish), and observed them in this practice, you would know how completely wrong you are about this.
It is somewhat like the christian practice of confession, where one’s sins are wiped clean upon repentance, although in this case the granting of absolution (forgiveness of sin) is not given automatically, but only asked for fervently, so it is nothing like a “get out of jail free card”.
Again, read the article in wikipedia, or get more information elsewhere.
And Amethyst, these calumnies are so similar to those thrown at muslims, where, for instance, they quote the quran where it says that lies done for the sake of islam are not lies, murders done for the sake of islam are not murder.
Does such a quote, taken out of context, prove that all muslims are lying murderers?
Amethyst, I feel dirty even discussing such things, but I will, for your sake, continue to address your concerns.
But I will also urge you, at some stage, to give up this endeavor entirely. It is a completely unworthy task of any human being.
Dig in the mud and you will only find dirt or shit.
Scratch at any person hard enough and you will produce blood.
Please, please, Amethyst, there are much, much better things we could be doing.
August 4th, 2006 at 8:55 am
Lebanon beautiful Lebanon, shall walk through the shadow of death. And will live,live,live!
Truth and honour is with you/us, this is your/our blessing from God.
Stand tall beautiful Lebanon, for victory and peace are close.
Lies cannot/will not last.
To all who speak lies and deciet, you are all damning your selfs to hell for all eternity.
STOP DESTROYING LEBANON.
Also our prayers go out to the innocent people of Palestine
Viva Lebanon.
August 4th, 2006 at 9:02 am
I just have some random thoughts today. First of all it’s very nice to see the blogs and the conversations have become much more educated and compassionate. I just wanted to give you a little news from the American front. I’m sad to say this current crisis is getting less and less time in the American media and I notice it is starting to sway right back over to the “poor Israeli’s” point of view. This is what I was talking about when I talked about Israel’s powerful PR machine. Dan “The Devil” Gillerman seems to be on the news 24 hrs. a day spouting his hatred and trying to justify what Israel is doing by blaming Hezbollah. I also wanted to comment on some of the other people on here.
AMETHYST - I love your passion and I feel this crisis affects you to your very core. I can’t say I wish I felt that same passion because I feel in order to share that passion I would have to know someone who is living this, be related to someone going through or God forbid going through it myself. Your heartfelt words and passion travels across oceans.
KAREN - I could say the exact same things to you though your anger is a little more intense. We all have that right to be angry though! That’s usually the first response when you learn the truth after being lied to for so long. I think if the whole world opened their eyes Israel would be in a lot of trouble because that’s a lot of angry people.
QUASIMONDO - It’s always the easiest thing to do to just sit on the fence and not rustle anyone’s feathers isn’t it? It is and always will be passionate people that make a difference in this world.
PALESTINE - Wow! This is what I spoke of when I talk about educating others. Amazing what you can learn from other people if you are here with an open mind. Your words inspire me.
WEBMASTER - I hope you realize you have done an amazing thing here. If one person leaves knowing more than they did before they came here, it’s a job well done.
My heart goes out to the people of Lebanon. I know when the media coverage stops the pain and suffering will continue. It breaks my heart to see a beautiful country being ripped apart and NO ONE is coming to the defense of those people. God bless all of you!
August 4th, 2006 at 9:18 am
God bless you Shawn. May you have truth and peace always.
Your words live in our heart and mind for ever.
Viva Lebanon.
August 4th, 2006 at 9:56 am
History tells it all the moast peacefull being on earth was a man by the name Jesus Christ who cased his death by making him look like a terrorist the Jew and again they were in alliane with a super power nothing has changed any one the Jews see as a threat they lable a terrorist.
To all Lebanese who have lost thire lives may your souls rest in peace
August 4th, 2006 at 9:59 am
PEACE!
we just wanna peace,oh my God,terrorist is israel with bush!
what that people doing for this?
what we have with that war?
We are not only perfects,we are lebanese too!
remember this all days,and Lebanon continue the best country of the World!
hugs from Brazil!
August 4th, 2006 at 12:06 pm
Tanks Sion for the labor of your god.
freedom in Palestine
August 4th, 2006 at 1:35 pm
hey all, i have been reading all the blogs ,,, i gaze in silence ,,, am lebanese from the south and staying in Dubai,,,, Its sad to see the jewel of the middle east and the paris of east mouning from Israeli’s hatred and jealousy,,, We will never die, we never did,,,, Lebanon will stand with heads up just like his mountains just like the Maazin and Chruch bells. I call on all lebanese from Shi3a , sunni’s, Maronite, druz, and all and all and,, to stick togather and hold hands.
Pary for my family & all families who all still there in south,,,in my latest call my mum said” Dont worry son, our tomatoes are due in our small field outdoor and we will survive”,,,,
We will survive, and we will win,,,, love you all and hand and hand we will build our jewel.
Hassan
August 4th, 2006 at 5:02 pm
Hassan,
You and your family are in my prayers.
August 4th, 2006 at 6:22 pm
To the Lebanese people
In these rough times, stick with each other. Help each other in any way possible. Show the world that no bomb can destroy us! We are soldiers, we will not let anyone bring us down!
Whatever they destroy, we will rebuild. For the innocent lifes and their families, let’s all pray for them.
United we stand, let’s all remember that.
August 4th, 2006 at 8:13 pm
To Dani and Quasimondo
Your efforts to label me racist are falling on deaf ears. You only have to open your eyes, your ears and most especially your heart to know the real Evil that is at this point in time being delivered out of Israel. Ehud Olmert has let HIS HATRED AND RACISM cloud his judgement. He is sending his own young men to death and has no problem with them destroying as many babies as they can before they meet their maker. You want me to tunnel my hate into understanding. Why don’t you channel your understanding into rage when see the innocents who are being slaughtered for the vengeance of a mad man (for that is truly what he is, he and his cabinet). You are offended when someone draws comparisons between Olmert and Hitler, between the state of Israel and the Nazis (their aims are the same ……. ethnic cleansing). You claim to love humanity and yet you are happy to defend the state of Israel’s daily carnage that is being carried out on the Palestinians and Lebanese alike. You are happy to allow your young men to have the blood of innocent stain their hearts and their hands. WHEN WILL YOU TOO BE OUTRAGED AT WHAT THE NEW HITLER IS DOING TO THE MIDDLE EAST NOW AND SOON THE WORLD. IT IS YOU WHO IS BLIND AND RACIST IN YOUR VIEWS.
And for someone who claims to be so well informed, you sure are repeating the lies. Maybe I’m not as eloquently spoken as you seem to be with all your talk of PEACE LOVE AND MUNGBEANS, but I know what I know, I know what I’ve experienced, I know what I’ve been witness to. You must also know that the UN and the World in its stupid silence is not condoning Israel ……. the US has made it redundant by vetoing every vote they put forward to stop this carnage. The US (the good and righteous rulers of the NEW WORLD ORDER, use the UN when it wants them to put up a Resolution that they need to persecute a people, but will veto any vote that is passed to try and stop them and their Israeli Lords
We have only to look at the stories coming out Iraq and Afghanistan to see how well the US and its Jewish puppet masters are bringing democracy to these countries. Abu Graab Prison, The rape and murder of a young Iraqi girl and her entire family, The systematic shooting of any army aged Iraqi (orders that were given by one of the USs War Heroes from Mogadishu) Guantanamo Bay, and these are just a few stories that have been brought to the light of day.
Your own words OH TEACHER OF HUMANITARIANISM Quasimondo (who I think Is Hafeezbeteezelisraeliya trying a new approach)
So I understand and would completely forgive your reactions, if it was my place to do so (it is not) yet at the same time I would encourage you to look deeper into your heart for your own benefit first and foremost.
You have proven to me now that you understand NOTHING!!. And I certainly DO NOT NEED YOUR FORGIVENESS and I cannot look any deeper into my pure and OUTRAGED HEART than I have done already. My own benefit is to expose the EVIL Madness of Israel making
No, I have not been through this tragedy, but I have travelled extensively throughout the world, and have witnessed so much suffering, most of it completely unnecessary.
I have lived and been witness to this tragedy my whole life, I lived the suffering and the hatred and the need to control the Middle East that is Israel. I too have travelled throughout the world and seen the unnecessary injustice and the MEDIA Scaremongering of the JEWISH AND US GOVERNMENTS
What I have found is that everybody, everybody, suffers the same.
Not everyone does suffer the same it seems. For I am sitting here halfway across the world suffering and grieving for my country and hold great fears for one of my brothers and my relatives, and my fellow Lebanese and our Palestinian brothers and sisters, that are still living this nightmare in Lebanon and Palestine, while you Israeli supporters are telling me to have some love for the JEWS that are destroying my people and my country. You do not suffer in your need to JUSTIFY the almighty and EVIL state of Israel. Hezballah means GODS WORK, and I can finally see that they are doing GODS work by allowing Israel to SHOW its real face of EVIL to the those that care about HUMANITY and are outraged by this madman Olmert and his court jester friend Georgy Porgy.
And anyone, anyone, who inflicts this suffering I thoroughly detest.
THE STOLEN AND EVIL STATE OF ISRAEL and their puppets the US
Of course, those who do this always have their “reasons”, their “justifications”. And I would always place the onus for all this on the “original” offender, not on the victim.
Poor Israel is being victimised by the terrorist ARABS that it has no one to blame for their existence for but itself. ISRAEL IS THE EVIL THAT HAS DISEASED THE WORLD THROUGHOUT ITS HISTORY and its CONTROL of the WESTERN MEDIA is the “ORIGINAL” offender …………….. NOT THE VICTIM
You have the gall to tell me to look into my heart and rid it of hatred and racism …………… You have asked repeatedly (Dani) where my compassion is for all the Innocent Israelis. They are dead and gone (may god forgive the way they died) But where is your compassion for the continual slaughtering of the innocent Palestinians and Lebanese by your blindly loyal and equally doomed soldiers. Where is your rage and need to see this slaughter stop. You say you regret these, and yet you still support the murders who are carrying out this carnage. The blood of every man woman and child that has perished in this mad need for revenge by the madman Olmert and his equally mad cabinet full of RACISTS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS, will also be on your hands and in your hearts. For you too must have evil and racist hearts to still be defending the oppressor of all that was good in the Middle East before your murderous nation came into existence. AND IF THAT MAKES ME A RACIST, I will embrace my racisms. And if it is filling my heart with hatred for the Quasi Jews (I happen to know that their a lot of good Jews who are ashamed of what that EVIL government is doing in their name), then I will acknowledge and embrace my Hatred of these vile people. And if this makes me ANTI-SEMITIC(a wonderful word used by Jews to turn any question about their behaviour into a racial issue) Then I embrace and acknowledge my ANTI SEMITISM
August 4th, 2006 at 8:49 pm
Hey Amethyst,
No doubt that dandi, half tease, and now quassi are one. Clacking away at their pathetic little keyboards all day long. They all sound the same, don’t you think?
Also, Amethyst, don’t you think they sound like these monsters?
“Every time we do something, you [Shimon Peres] tell me America will do this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.”
— Ariel Sharon
Israeli Prime Minister, homicidal psychopath
Jewish Mafia member
Knesset, Tel Aviv, October 3, 2001
Immediately after the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the attack would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply was: “It’s very good……. Well, it’s not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)”.
“Evidence linking these Israelis to 9-11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It’s classified information.”
— U.S. official
quoted in Carl Cameron’s Fox News report
on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9-11
These monsters are part of the reasons that there’s blood and destruction in Lebanon.
Then there’s morons that yammer like those three: More evil junk.
Then there are the uneducated, uninformed, close-minded who listen and believe.
Watch out other countries. Your blood and destruction isn’t far away. When you let isreal do what it is doing to Lebanon and the Palestinians, and Iraqis - How do you know you won’t be next?
August 4th, 2006 at 9:29 pm
A little something to share with those ignorant folk who might call you “anti-semitic” because you don’t support the terrorist state we know as Israel.
Semite (plural Semites)
noun
Definition:
1. member of Semitic-speaking people: a member of a Semitic-speaking people of Southwest Asia, including the Arab and Jewish peoples, and the ancient Assyrians, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, and Phoenicians
2. offensive term: an offensive term for a Jew ( slang )
[Mid-19th century.
August 4th, 2006 at 9:35 pm
O Palestine! O Palestine!
Always the tragic misunderstandings, ever the failures to communicate and an eternity of lost opportunities!
Perhaps english is not your first or primary language, or perhaps I have expressed myself confusedly and ineloquently.
For whatever reason, you have once again miscontrued my words, consigned to me opinions which are most definitely not my own.
But I accept the blame here and will not think that you have intended to malign my character.
I thought I had made myself explicitly clear that I was not addressing the Lebanese people with my suggestions (though they are welcome to listen) nor would I ever presume to make any “demands” upon them.
No, the people I was addressing (I think most of us here) are those that are at least at some remove (greater or lesser) from the situation who might want to do everything possible to end this suffering which is so great, so undeniable, so unjustifiable.
So what are we to do?
Most of us seem content to rail against the israelis.
This is fine, understandable even, but to what purpose?
If there are israelis that are of influence listening (or can reach those of influence), what good does expressing such unmitigated hatred and racism towards them do? What good all the calls of destruction and annihilation, of calling their religion one of exclusion and of mendacity, portraying their very character as irredeemibly evil, denying or minimizing the very real suffering that they have experienced (at least, palestine, you, personally, do not do this) and in the process doing nothing less than dehumanizing them?
Confronted with all this would you really expect them to desist? To even listen to you?
Wouldn’t it be wiser to appeal to their reason, to tell them that, because they have suffered so much, they should more readily understand the suffering of others, and that they should therefore understand how vitally important it is to not contribute to this?
Yes, I know, such an attitude is idealistic, and probably would not work (at least not right away).
On the other hand, what could it hurt? And isn’t it much preferrable to the alternative which so many are engaging in here?
Okay, perhaps many of you believe that jews are incapable of reason, and so it would be senseless to even attempt. Again, I would say, why not try, on the slim, slim chance that it may have some benefit?
Or maybe you are too angry at present to even contemplate such things. Fair enough.
So then what are we all doing here?
Just expressing all our anger and hatred at the jews, engaging in contests of spite, cheering on those who can spew their venom the furthest?
All this, perhaps, as some form of mutual consolation?
Fine. Fair enough.
But somehow, somehow, I thought that we should be doing something more, discussing things, exchanging our different perspectives and knowledge, all towards the goal of finding some method whereby we mightachieve some sort of peace, if not today, then tomorrow, if not tomorrow, then next week, if not next week, then yet in some future (hopefully not too distant), one wherein our aspirations (which we must always hold onto) may finally be realized.
So, if these first two options are not practical, or viable, is there anything else that we can do?
Yes! Most definitely yes!
We must do the only practical thing that we can do, namely influence anyone and everyone that we are able, small as that may be.
If you are close, or have ties to Israel, you must do what you can to influence them
If you are close, or have ties to Hezbollah, you must do what you can to influence them.
And if you are, like me, from some other country, we must influence, as much as possible, our representatives, our leaders.
We must influence them so that they get the message (all of them), once and for all, that all violence, all warfare is no longer acceptable. That all differences, all disputes, must be settled by negotiation, by mutual understanding, and never, never by force.
So yes, I have contacted my government, I have spoken out very loudly, now and also so many times in the past, not only “against” israel, but against so many others, other countries, other factions, that too often (even once is too much) have continued with their vile actions, unabated and with impunity.
When I talked about the “exaggerations” or of the lies and distortions that are so readily believed, it was with the explicit understanding that this criticism is applied universally to all “sides”, and that the importance of such was that they were expressions of the principles of racism and hatred which are the foundations of all oppression.
Palestine, how do you dare claim that I have not acknowledged the suffering here?
I have repeated this, over and over again, I have never attempted to belittle or demean this in any way.
What you, what I, what everyone, must understand, is that the true origin of all the suffering, that human beings inflict upon one another, is not a particular person (say a hitler, or a bush, or a bin-laden or a sharon), or of any nation, or any religion, but the attitudes and pseudo-principles which allow us ever to consider another human being as less than ourselves, that we may be greater than them, that perhaps they should not even be called human. In so doing we justify these others as a source for exploitation, or, if they are a nuisance or a bother, for displacement or destruction, even extermination.
You may believe that you can fight fire with fire, but in this case it only leads to a much greater conflagration, ever spiralling more and more out of control as more and more fuel is added.
It is long past time to realize the futility of this approach, that we must stop adding fuel and instead retrieve some water, drop by drop, if necessary, that we may eventually douse this flame and cool things down.
My mention of “philosphy” and “punditry” was in referrence to the “blame game” being indulged in here, or in the “investigation” into the characterstics and character of certain “races” and “religions”.
I was thoroughly and explicitly in oppposition to this.
So perhaps you meant, cleverly, to turn this around on me, to hoist me on my on petard, as it were.
Nevertheless, the point remains that I have always been urging everyone to action, no matter how small, how ineffectual, instead of continuing only to wallow and indulge in this orgy of anger and pointless hatred.
Enough, I say! You’ve had more than enough time to let these emotions run through your system! Wipe your tears, get off your ass, and do something!
Do something!
August 4th, 2006 at 9:39 pm
Below again is the reason for all this blood shead..over and over again, at the hands of the Israeli political movement.
I’m sick of all the F#%%$G bullshit and fake peace theories!!!
You want the truth…this is the truth..
It’s immposible to forgive&forget when you’ve seen the dead only inches away from you. And the dead are your FAMILY. It scarrs you Emotionally, Psychologically and Physically. It hurts deeper and deeper and deeper when you cant defend back with other than rocks. Or as we see now human bombs. Tradgic but real!!
As for the children for the last 50-60 years that have been through this, they need no one tell them not to be angry or hate or how they should think of peace with Israel.
Unfortunately the reallity or truth, so many speak of, is this…
A child born 1970 in these condition has been scarred…
This is the same kid in 1990, 20years later only thinks of revenge for the mother, father, sister and home “he or for that matter she” saw dead and destroyed through yet another Israeli invasion again and again and again.
Abviously this is the same horror life for the Child born 1990 and now 2006 a 26 year old.
The Israeli aggression, creates this again and brings it on them selves Now in 2006!!!
It’s very obvious to me and 99% of the world agree, that the Israeli Philosophy and aggression is only to destroy, kill and hurt Lebanon (and surrounding) us much and as quick as possible!!
The more inhumane wrong than Israel has shown now, is that it has repeated this in the past, to to often.
There is no peace in this current Israeli government.
There may be in the innocent jews that have no choice, but not in the political movement. It’s pure evil, pure pure evil that feeds on the blood of the innocent.
No one can never ever ever understand the state of mind of a child growing up like this.
No one can ever understand the inner pain that is felt when when you see and hear this kid of 3yrs,5yrs,and 7yrs, running around, crying and screaming looking for his mother or father that are dead. To hear and see this is pure horror that lives and echoes in your mind for ever.
Stop this evil, stop it now. It can only come back to Israel. It will haunt forever the govrenment of Israel. The blood of your own people is on your own hands. The children born into this horror are not terrorsists. They fight for freedom. They are your creation Israel (government). Look with in your walls to see the nature of the evil beast. You must stop the killing.
This is not an opinion. Anything else is a lie!
This is the TRUTH.
This is the TRUTH.
Viva Lebanon.
August 4th, 2006 at 10:15 pm
Truth,
Yes I have not “been through” this terrible situation, though I have visited both palestine and israel (too briefly to claim any first-hand expertise).
And, though I have not “experienced” such oppression or suffering personally (just the normal tragedies, thank you) I have indeed witnessed things that are even worse than that which is going on (and I do not mean to belittle these tragedies in any way) in either Lebanon or Palestine.
I know this might seem impossible, and you might be reluctant to consider this, especially at this time, but if you have ever been to Africa, been to so many countries throughout that continent that I have visited and lived in, you might begin to understand the deeper and ever deeper hells that men have created for themselves.
Yes, there are worse things than oppresive occupations, than constant barrages of rockets, of headless babies or displaced persons, of so many lives lost, and dreams shattered.
Unbelievable, I know, but to even describe these things I’ve seen would be an unspeakable obscenity, the very contemplation, right now, in my memory, seems a criminal act for which I should be punished.
Again, I tell you all this not to belittle in any conceivable way the tragedy that is happening, only so that you will understand that I do know, I do comprehend such suffering.
And there is no excuse, no possible justification for it.
Period.
August 4th, 2006 at 10:34 pm
Karen,
Ha! It is so funny that you and amethyst would brand all of those who might oppose your views, even slightly, who do not tow the party line, as one and the same person, as if there could be only one lunatic who would do so, probably one of those idf members futilely trying to change hearts and minds, wasting the good money of the israeli taxpayers by creating multiple identities and posting rambling messages and getting no sleep.
Hmm, those jews sure are crazy.
Yeah, funny.
One might just as well do the same for the rest of you whose views are so uniform, so monolithic, so rigid and unrelentingly severe.
Is that you, “webmaster”?, setting one of your clever traps for a poor jew boy; that’s me, Hafeez, I mean Dani, no Quasimondo, arghhh!!!, how do I keep this all straight?
Maybe I am amethyst as well, or truth, or ak47, or palestine, or perhaps I am even you, Karen, trying to stir up a little controversy.
For the record, I would never be the apologist for the israeli government that dani is, and I think quasimondo is a complete idiot for trying his arts of gentle persuasion on you.
Myself, I believe you need a good knock on the head to get some sense into you.
August 4th, 2006 at 11:10 pm
People, there is no need to throw baseless accusations left and right.
We are all grown people, I hope, and we do not have to turn to such claims.
Although it is very doable, I doubt anyone would go through the trouble of assuming multiple identities on a simple blog.
As far as I can see, they are different people posting from different places.
You are wrong, they are not the same person.
August 5th, 2006 at 12:12 am
TRUTH7,
I hear you LOUD and CLEAR. I have been listening to you for quite some time. I have never been through what you and your family and friends have gone through. I cannot even begin to imagine the terrors of what the Lebanese, Iraqi, and Palestinian people are going through. But I am listening and I am learning TRUTH7.
Before July 12, 2006, I was looking forward to my parents and sister visiting Lebanon. My grandparents were born in Lebanon. Anyway, I couldn’t go because I have school and I have no money for travel.
When my sister came back from her trip to California she was on the internet right away watching the news. She told me she could never go to Lebanon now because of the trouble with izreal.
I said not to worry. Chances are it will blow over and everything will be okay. After all it was just some kidnappings. What they will do is negotiate.
My sister and parents never did go to Lebanon. Furthermore, lots of my relatives and family have come back to Michigan and Canada from Lebanon. They were lucky. But still there is family in Lebanon. We are hoping to see some of them by mid-August.
And these folks who have come back from Lebanon are just heart broken to say the least. Their agony is unending for what they have seen and heard. They have been interviewed by local newspapers, they’ve talked about what they have seen, you can see the pain in their faces, you can see the tears.
Our family watches the news everyday. We hear some very good people speak out against the vicious injustice that is going in Lebanon.
Truth7, there are some great people really fighting for Lebanon. They are talking back at Harper, and Bush:
Alexa McDonough, James Zogby, Ibrahim Hooper, Tom Woodley, Noam Chomsky, Uri Avnery….and so many more.
They wanted a ceasefire weeks ago. They are asking how many lives does it take? They want to know how the USA and izreaal can have such blatant lack of disregard for LIFE. They have been saying that the murder of all the innocent people in Lebanon, as well as Palestine and Iraq will have tremendous, serious repercussions on the world - and it has to stop now - and it should have stopped A LONG TIME AGO!!!!! So many decent people are saying this.
Then we hear the filth of gillerman, netanyahu, perez, ayalon. prager, olmert……..and Truth7, there are way too many of them. They throw their lies all over the place and it is so easy for them.:
LIE: We have warned the Lebanese people that they must flee, we have given them plenty of time.
BUT THEY BOMB THEIR CARS SO THEY CANNOT FLEE.
THEY BOMB THE BRIDGES, MAIN ROADS AND HIGHWAYS SO THEY CANNOT FLEE.
AND WHEN THEY ARE FLEEING THEY BOMB THEM ANYWAY. AND WHETHER THEY HAVE LEFT THEIR HOMES OR NOT, THEY BOMB THEIR HOMES. WHEN THE PEOPLE FIND SHELTER IN SCHOOLS OR UN COMPOUNDS THEY ARE STILL BOMBED.
LIE: Hezbollah is everywhere, in their houses, using the people as human shields.
SO THEY BOMB AND SHOOT ANYONE IN SIGHT SO THEY CAN HIT HEZBOLLAH. THEY BOMB AND SHOOT WOMEN AND CHILDREN BECAUSE HEZBOLLAH IS JUST A FEW FEET AWAY. THEY KILL INDISCRIMINATELY BECAUSE THEY REALLY DON’T CARE. IF THEY KILL SOME BABIES AND CHILDREN - OH WELL.
LIE: We are just a little country surrounded by a huge hostile Arab Muslim population.
THEY RECEIVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM THE USA ANNUALLY. THEY COULDN’T AND WOULDN’T EXIST WITHOUT THE USA. THEY HAVE ONE OF THE BEST UP TO DATE ARTILLERY OF WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IN THE WORLD. THEY HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS FAR MORE ADVANCED THAN IRAN OR NORTH KOREA COULD EVER HAVE.
LIE: So many of our people have died and have been injured. What about our tragic losses? ‘What about us?
HOW DO YOU COMPARE 900 LEBANESE DEAD TO 70 isreali DEAD??? HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE MASS BURIALS IN LEBANON? HOW CAN YOU TAKE A TRAGEDY LIKE LEBANON’S AND MAKE IT YOUR OWN? WHAT ABOUT THE THOUSANDS OF LEBANESE PEOPLE INJURED AND STARVING AND THE 900,000 LEBANESE WITHOUT HOMES? HOW DO YOU DARE TO EQUAL LEBANON’S TRAGEDY WITH YOUR OWN?
Do you really think the whole world is that stupid?
Truth7 I am with you 100%. Bless you, sweetheart.
August 5th, 2006 at 12:47 am
So now I am an apologist for the Israeli government ??? I just can’t seem to win.
A number of years ago I was called an anti-Zionist by underlings of Ehud Olmert and it even ended up in the Israeli papers.
August 5th, 2006 at 1:03 am
Violent aren’t you, Qauzi? I’ve been reading bits of your junk. It is the same as the (whisper) “others.” There REALLY is no difference. Don’t care about your rights to opinion. Don’t care that you don’t care about mine, which by the way are FACT. And the FACTS which I have been speaking of have brought upon the results of the slaughter and disaster of LEBANON.
Your ill-begotten behavior shows great disregard for the Lebanese people who are suffering. GREAT DISREGARD.
Since you want solve everyone’s problems with all with all your preaching psycho-babble crap - INSTEAD why don’t you get off your soap box and DO SOMETHING yourself. Yeah, YOU do something.
Meanwhile….I’ll be watching the news to see if you have contributed anything worthwhile to the world.
August 5th, 2006 at 1:08 am
Pray tell, Karen, where were you and what was your reaction when suicide bombers carry out their terrorist acts in Israel in cafes, buses, supermarkets, reception halls, fruit markets, etc. etc ?
Were you jumping up and down when Kassam rockets were being INDISCRIMINATELY fired into Israel in the south before this conflict started ?
So Israel attacks civilians indiscriminately - and what do you call Hezbollah’s rockets being fired into Israel ?
As I said, due to luck, God or just Hezbollah incompetence, more lives have not been lost in Israel, but I wonder what the world’s reaction will be if one of these rockets gets “lucky” ???
I don’t think I need to think too hard as to what Israel’s reaction would be….
August 5th, 2006 at 1:33 am
THESE ARE THE FACTS
BUSH COULD HAVE ORDERED THE ISRAELIS TO CEASEFIRE 2 WEEKS AGO BUT HE DIDNT BECAUSE OF THE JEWISH LOBBY IN THE USA WHICH IS THE MOST INFLUENTIAL SECTOR TO THE US GOVT
NOW THE MEDIA IS STATING THAT BUSH IS WORKING TOWARD A CEASEFIRE VERY SOON. EVERYONE NOTE THIS THAT THE ISRAELIS ARE INSTRUMENTAL FOR THIS FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON;
IF AND WHEN THE ISRAELIS PUSH TOWARD THE 30KM ZONE THEY DONT KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. BUSH WILL NOT CALL A CEASE FIRE BEFORE THEY GET THERE. IF THEY DO GET THERE AND ARE MET WITH STRONG RESISTANCE AND LOSS OF MANY ISRAELI ARMY PERSONEL, THEY WILL THEN ASK BUSH TO CALL A CEASE FIRE WHICH THEY HAVE ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED BETWEEN THEMSELVES.
THIS WILL ALLOW THE ISRAELIS TO PULL BACK AND SAVE LOSS OF FACE TO THE ONLOOKING WORLD.
IF WHEN THEY GET THERE AND THEY ARE NOT MET WITH ANY NOTEABLE RESISTANCE THEN GOD HELP THE PEOPLE OF LEBANON
BECAUSE THE MASSACRE WILL CONTINUE UNTIL THEY ACCOMPLISH SECURING MORE LAND TO CONTROL.
IT CAN ONLY BE A WIN WIN RESULT FOR THE ISRAELIS
IN THE MEANTIME THE WAR OF WORDS AND THE SUPERFICIAL PARTAKING OF THIS BY THE ISRAELIS IS SUITING THEM VERY NICELY, THAT WHIST PRETENDING THEY WANT A CEASEFIRE IT CAN ONLY HAPPEN ON THE DISGRACEFUL CONDITIONS THAT THEY SUPPORT.
REGARDLESS, THERE IS NO TURNING BACK TO A POSSIBLE ONGOING PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST WHIST ISRAEL EXISTS.
THE SUPPORT FOR THE PALESTINIANS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD IS GROWING AT AN ALARMING RATE AND NOW INCLUDES MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WORLDWIDE DID NOT CARE OR PAY ANY ATTENTION TO THE ONGOING CONFLICT THAT EXISTS THERE.
BUT NOW, AFTER SEEING THE ATROCITIES AND DEVASTATION HANDED TO THE LEBANIES PEOPLE BY THIS MONSTER,
IT WILL HAVE SOCIAL AND POLITIACAL CONSEQENCES FOR THE ISRAELIS AND THEIR SUPPORTERS WORLDWIDE.
TO PEOPLE LIKE DANI, THIS FORUM IS PARALLEL IN A SMALLER WAY TO THE DIALOGUE TAKING PLACE BETWEEN THE WORLD LEADERS IN THAT THEY CONTINUE TO DISCUSS OPTIONS TOWARD A CEASEFIRE WITHOUT IT HAPPENING WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE ISAELIS ARE PLAYING IN ORDER TO KEEP DEVASTATING LEBANON.
UNDERSTAND PEOPLE THAT WHILST DANI AND HIS MATES COME ON FORUMS LIKE THIS AND EXPRESS A SHALLOW CONCERN FOR THE INNOCENT PEOPLE OF LEBANON, THEY ARE PRIVATELY ECSTATIC AT THE THOUGHT OF ISRAEL GAINING MORE LAND FOR THE JEWS WITHOUT ANY CONCERN FOR THE COST OF HUMAN LIFE.
AND DONT BE CAUGHT UP IN RESPONDING TO PEOPLE LIKE THIS WHO ACCUSE YOU OF BEING ANTI-SEMETIC BECAUSE YOU DONT SUPPORT THE JEWISH CAUSE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
THIS TOOL HAS BEEN USED BY THE JEWS EVER SINCE THEY CAME INTO EXISTANCE AS A FORM OF ENDING AN ARGUMENT WHEN PLACE WITH THEIR BACKS TO THE WALL IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SOCIETIES AND HUMAN RIGHTS ETC.
August 5th, 2006 at 1:43 am
So calling for the destruction of the state of Israel and the annihilation of Jews is the way to get peace in the middle east and should be the basis of any negotiations.
And you wonder why Israel is reacting the way they are to attacks and the firing of rockets/missiles from groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas.
You want peace - you seat around a table and negoiate - you don’t go crossing borders, killing and kidnapping soldiers and then fire rockets, you imbecile.
Before July 12, it was relatively quiet on the Lebanese border despite numerous attacks and provocations by Hezbollah. Hezbollah for whatever reasons decided to up the ante and what is happening today is a result of that, whether you like it or not or agree or not, these are the facts.
August 5th, 2006 at 3:22 am
Dani Said
Pray tell, Karen, where were you and what was your reaction when suicide bombers carry out their terrorist acts in Israel in cafes, buses, supermarkets, reception halls, fruit markets, etc. etc ?
How many times do you need to bring this up, how many times do you need to bring the Holocaust up, How many times must you remind us that you have innocent dead too. Im sorry Im sorry Im sorry
WE GOT YOU THE FIRST COUPLE OF DOZEN TIMES YOU MENTIONED IT. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE HERE AND NOW AND THE INNOCENT LIVES THAT YOUR TERRORIST STATE HAS NO COMPUNCTION ABOUT KILLING. ALL THE YEARS YOU HAVE SADLY HAD TO PUT UP WITH THESE HORRORS DO NOT COMPARE TO WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO THE PALESTINIANS FOR OVER 60 YEARS AND CONTINUE TO DO AND TO THE LEBANESE. AND IF INDEED YOU ARE PLAYING TIT FOR TAT ID SAY YOU REACHED YOUR QUOTA ABOUT 24 DAYS AGO
THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT HAS NO SOUL AND ONLY DESIRES DEATH FOR ALL THAT OPPOSE IT, REGARDLESS OF WETHER THEY ARE INNOCENT OR NOT. THE HATRED IN OLMERTS WAR CANNOT BE DENIED. THE DESTRUCTION HE CONTINUES TO BRING ONTO THE LEBANESE AND THE PALESTINIANS SEEMS NEVER TO SATED. SO HE WILL KEEP ON KILLING UNTILL THERE IS NO ONE LEFT TO KILL. AND THIS FROM A MAN WHO IS ONLY DEFENDING HIS STOLEN STATE……………………………………. PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME TO HAVE UNDERSTANDING AND COMPASSION FOR A GOVERNMENT THAT ONLY WANTS TO DESTROY MY PEOPLE AND CLAIM OUR LAND AS THEIRS
I WILL NOT EVER BE SWAYED BACK TO THINKING ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT TO EXIST. IT FORFEITED ITS RIGHTS LONG AGO, ITS JUST TAKEN ME A LITTLE LONGER TO REALISE THIS. WHILE I DONT WISH DEATH TO ISRAEL …….. I DO SURE WISH THEY WOULD JUST PISS OFF OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST …… WHERE NOT ONLY ARE THEY NOT WANTED ……… BUT THEY HAVE TURNED EVERY ARAB AGAINST THEM ….. THE TRUTH WILL BE MADE CLEARER FOR THOSE STILL TOWING THE PARTY LINE. and then they will hang their heads in shame when the realization finally hits them. At that time I will find it in my heart to forgive all your words of revenge on our innocent people. MAY GOD GRANT YOU THE WISDOM TO KNOW THAT YOUR ALL DUMBASSES
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
August 5th, 2006 at 4:39 am
Karen - How many times do I need to bring it up ? Until such time as you show such passion and compassion about the death of innocent Israeli lives as you do for those killed and injured ON BOTH SIDES in the current conflict.
And until you recognise and accept that this current conflict is of Hezbollah’s making.
I deplore the deaths of innocents ON BOTH SIDES, and it easliy could have been avoided.
No one I know will be hanging their heads in shame - on the contrary, the truth about of Hezbollah using civilian homes to launch Katyushas from is starting to come out with photos being smuggled out plus comments from independent journalists about this is also starting to slip through the cracks as are comments from Lebanese civilians about how they wish that Hezbollah had not started the conflict - oh, forgot Karen, you are not interested in what happened, only in what is happening. How about considering the why of what is happening now ???
Wonder what the innocent civilians in southern Lebanon will have to say once Hezbollah is not around to threaten and intimidate their every move ???
You are so blind with hatred you can not or do not want to see what is happening and how Lebanon is being used by external forces to push their own agenda with innocent Lebanese being used as pawns in their game.
August 5th, 2006 at 6:12 am
To Olmert the evil beast…As you said when YOUR evil horror started…
” I WILL SEND LEBANON BACK 20 YEARS ”
Well F- -K you fool, you did not, and cannot!!!!
Through all this we have eternal life, Lebanon has eternal life. With all the/your planes tanks and bombs your are a coward!
You have achieved nothing, except bringing the people of Lebanon closer, with more love for life and our land than ever before….
So… thank you… and F- - K you. You loose. Hell awaits you!
For my people who see and live this truth. I love you.
For the rest, well you “dont matter”.
Viva Lebanon, Viva our beautiful people
August 5th, 2006 at 6:54 am
Stel,
You comments on American politics is exact and correct. But don’t look for Bush to make a move anytime soon. You see he started his vacation yesterday. While P.M. Tony Blair decided there was too much going on world wide to take a vacation, Bush felt he needed a break.
Dani,
Why do you continue to be such an idiot? Your being here and your comments are retarded. Do you think it would be appropriate if I were a Bush supporter to come to this site and try to convince these people how wonderful he and American policies are? As far as you making the Israeli papers….So your saying the Israeli government and now the people of Israel know your an idiot too? You just need a friend don’t you?
Quasimondo,
Your like a summer sandal, you know….flip flop!
Protests world wide yesterday in support of Hezbollah and the people of Lebanon. I feel like Israel’s time is very limited.
August 5th, 2006 at 7:07 am
All lebanon has to do to end this (or not ever let it have started) is police the Hizbollah and not let it use lebanon as a lauch site for rockets into israel. No country on earth would let a group of people use another country to launch indiscriminate attacks on its people and not do something about it. It is easy police your country (stop letting Hizbollah use it) and this will end. Or someone will end if for you. This propanganda might on some people but not the ones that count(they can think).
August 5th, 2006 at 7:13 am
TO DANI
UM ……… THAT WAS ACTUALLY ME NOT KAREN. YET ANOTHER MISTAKE YOU’VE MADE. BUT THEN AGAIN WE’VE LEARNT THAT YOU DONT CHECK YOUR INFORMATION OUT TO WELL LOL
ARE YOU BY ANY CHANCE INSINUATING THAT YOUR ISRAELI DEATHS NEED TO BE REMEMBERED WITH MORE REVERANCE THAN THOSE CURRENTLY DYING NOW. WHY DO YOU WASTE YOUR TIME ON HERE TRYING TO MAKE US MOURN YOUR DEAD, YOUR HOLOCAUST, YOUR SUFFERING, YOUR TERROR ……. WHEN YOU HAVE GIVEN US MORE THAN ENOUGH OF ALL OF THAT TO LAST US A LIFETIME
ISRAEL STARTED THIS CARNAGE AND EVERY OTHER CARNAGE THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE IN AND AROUND ITS STOLEN BORDERS. ISRAEL AND THE US ARE THE WARMONGERS THAT STARTED THIS AND THEY WILL BE THE WARMONGERS THAT BRING AROUND THE APOCOLYPSE ………….. PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT
THE ONLY THING THAT HEZBALLAH STARTED WAS THE BEGINNING OF YOUR END ….. BECAUSE YOUR MR OLMERT HAS SHOWN THE ISRAELIE STATE FOR THE EVIL TERRORIST THAT THEY ARE …… ENJOY YOUR PARTY TIME … BECAUSE WHEN THIS IS OVER NO BODY (EXCEPT MAYBE THE US) WILL WANNA PLAY WIT YOU NO MORE.
SHAME ISRAEL SHAME
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
PS: I REALY DONT HATE YOU DANI, I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU. THAT YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN TO YOUR AGE AND STILL NOT LEARNT TO MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND ABOUT THE TRUTH AND INSIST ON STILL REGURGITATING THE SAME OL BS THAT ISRAEL HAS BEEN FEEDING YOU YOU ALL YOUR LIFE.
August 5th, 2006 at 1:24 pm
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August 5th, 2006 at 2:24 pm
YOu can love Israel as much as you want my friend,,,,but u have to know one thing ,,YOU ARE GOING DOWN WITH ISRAEL. See you in hell.
Hassan from Bint Jebeil.
August 5th, 2006 at 2:44 pm
I feel for the Lebanese people. Seeing one image of a little girl killed and on the ground made me feel furry towards those coward Jews. May the Jews be pushed towards the ocean and drowned like they deserve.
You may rest now little one.
August 5th, 2006 at 2:52 pm
PLEASE READ
I am a neutral person from Lebanon and this is my opinion
SIMPLE FACTS:
1- Isreal is a TERORIST
2-All that Olmart could achieve in his terror against lebanon is killing innocent civillians and mass distruction
3-It is Israel’s Holocaust on Lebanese people
4-Hezbolla do not fight in civillian areas ( Israel is telling lies)
5-READ HISTORY: Hezbolla do not harm civilians its israelis who came to our land and took lebanese as hostages I believe WE ARE THE
ONCE WHO HAVE GOT THE RIGHT TO DEFEND OUR SELVES
6-Hizbolla treats their POW’s much better than what your israeli government does
7-Your government hides the truth from u! The Media you see is sensored go search for teh truth your soldiers are loosing in our land your army can only fight hiding in ther War palnes,Holly Tanks and war ships….Cowrads… God is witth us and we will free our land from the terorism of Israel
7-FOR GOD”S SAKE LEAVE US ALONE….
August 5th, 2006 at 2:53 pm
Israel and the filthy Jews die and go to hell. May all jews slice their veins and let the sand spill out.
August 5th, 2006 at 3:57 pm
Josh - not sure I understand what you have to say. Care to elaborate ???
Layal - you might be neutral, but sure aren’t objective.
Hassan from Bint Jebeil - looks like the Israelis missed one, but don’t worry, they will be back for you.
August 5th, 2006 at 4:00 pm
Lamentavelmente nosso povo tem que pagar um preço muito alto e os países protagonistas (Siria, Irã, Israel e EUA) assitindo de camarote, talvez apostando entre si nas mesas dos barsinhos, quantos inocentes irão morrer hoje. Mas Beirut caiu 30 vezes iremos reergue-la novamente o nos tornaremos od donos do Oriente Médio, abaixo a Siria, Irã Israel e EUA, viva o polo Libanes.
August 5th, 2006 at 4:27 pm
TO DANI,
GO TO HELL. DONT RIGHT DUMB COMMENTS WHEN YOU NEED A SHRINK!
August 5th, 2006 at 4:49 pm
Mona - what do you mean ???
August 5th, 2006 at 5:12 pm
Dani,
Everything youv’e wrote and said in the past you just summed up in one dumb ass comment. Go to a pro Israeli site where you can make some friends who share your views. Oh wait, they don’t want you either!!!!
August 5th, 2006 at 5:37 pm
Thanks Shawn, but I will stay here in the hope that some here will sooner than later realise what is really going on.
August 5th, 2006 at 6:21 pm
.DEAR DANI,
Please just take Note of this message personally to you, and those that believe as you do……………
Your presence and your constant defence of Israel’s right is upsetting a whole lotta people around the world who come onto this site as an outlet for their frustrations at their inability to stop the Israeli Government you care so much for from continuing to take young and innocent lives, not to mention reduce to rubble once proud and beautiful country that has just started to get back on its feet after the last time your beloved Israel destroyed it. No body is denying that Israeli innocents have been lost, and I’m sure those that truly have heart do grieve for those innocent people (I know I do).
From some of your previous posts, I have come to the conclusion that you are at least in the autumn of your life if not the winter and quite frankly I do not get any pleasure from constantly belittling an older gentleman (for I believe you to be one …. if somewhat misguided). I myself was taught to have respect for older people, regardless of who they are …….. but your words and your insistence to have us feel sorry for your government is like rubbing salt into an open wound ……..very very painful, and at the utmost insulting to our beliefs. Beliefs I might add that you have no chance of changing.
So please I ask you once again, if you cannot at the very least admit that your government is out of control on at least this current issue, please please please refrain from posting any more of your remarks on this site. They are only inciting further hatred …… even from the most passive of people. The way I see it (and this is my perspective) …… You are doing on a small scale what Israel has been doing to Palestine and Lebanon for decades on a much larger scale and that is constantly harassing and trying to intimidate us into believing Israel’s RIGHTS. Giving our past experiences with your beloved government, this is tantamount to expecting a modern day miracle from mere mortals, who have been dying from the bombs of your beloved government. Now this is where you usually jump in and say …… But what about all those poor Israeli lives ……………… YES YES YES as I have said time and again, they are well and truly noted and grieved over, but you must UNDERSTAND, this site is for those that are being murdered by your beloved evil government not for those that justify this murderous rampage as self defence ………… THIS WENT WAY BEYOND SELF DEFENCE ON DAY 2. And the longer it continues, the more we are going to hate Israel and all it represents. SO if you want to do your bit to improve relationship between our people, go away and DESIST from this senseless barrage of pro Israeli BS……………… WE ARE NOT GOING TO SYMPATHISE WITH YOUR CAUSE IN THE LEAST. OPEN YOUR EYES AND EARS AND SMELL THE BLOOD THAT IS STAINING THE STREETS OF MY BELOVED COUNTRY.
IF YOU TRULY TRULY BELIEVE THAT THESE INNOCENT DEATHS ARE A NECESSARY PRICE THAT NEEDS TO BE PAID IN ORDER FOR ISRAEL (OR ANY NATION) TO LIVE IN PEACE, THEN I PRAY THAT ISRAEL NEVER FIND PEACE. FOR HOW CAN YOU BUILD PEACE BY THE BLOOD AND BONES OF INNOCENT CHILDREN.
SO IF YOU CANNOT ADMIT YOUR GOVERNMENTS GUILT IN THIS ……………… THEN PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE JUST GO AWAY AND FIND A SITE MORE APPROPRIATE TO YOUR DISPROPORTIONATE NEED FOR REVENGE.
August 5th, 2006 at 6:32 pm
Israel!!! Adolf is proud of you. His best students you are!!!
“dehumanisation” of the identified group. another step to genocide. May god have mercy on your poor rotten souls!
August 5th, 2006 at 6:34 pm
I’m not sure if this has been mentioned before but I’ll say it nonetheless.
When Israel infiltrated the Gaza border in a brazen raid on June 24th and kidnapped two civilians, did that give the Palestinians the right to do to Israel what Israel is doing to Lebanon? This incursion was the first into Gaza since the implementation of the Israeli Disengagement Plan in September 2005!
Israel has been killing and oppressing Palestinians the whole time. It is simply wrong to claim Hezbollah an Hamas “started the hostilities.” You ignore Israel’s constant intense repression; Israel’s abductions; Israel’s atrocities in Gaza and Israel’s steady takeover of the West Bank.
You overlook or probably don’t even know about Israel’s abduction of TWO CIVILIANS, a doctor and his brother, from their home in Gaza on June24, the very day before the abduction of the Israeli soldier! http://tinyurl.com/s6c7g Link
“It was the first time the Israeli army had re-entered the Gaza Strip, directly violating Palestinian control of the territory, since it supposedly left in August last year.” That is newsworthy but the media has kept almost all Americans ignorant of this fact!
If you think Hezbollah ’s capturing two Israeli SOLDIERS counts as “starting it” why doesn’t Israel’s crossing over the border into Gaza and kidnapping two civilians count as “starting it”? since that happened first! And that was much worse than going after a military target. Please watch this video about Lebanon Israel and Facts the Media Isn’t Telling You
The kidnappings of the brothers was before the Israeli soldiers were captured and was on top of all the Israeli crimes against other civilians for example from June alone:
* Israeli mock air raids over Gaza were carried out to terrorize the population, firing missiles at uninhabited areas, including a playground, and flying low over densely populated civilian areas. (1-7 June)
* Israeli gunboats shot at Gaza’s coast and wounded 2 Palestinian children playing on the beach (1 June)
* Israeli border positions fired artillery shells at Jabalya town, injuring two Palestinian children inside their homes, and at Um al-Nasser village, injuring a 48-year-old Palestinian man (3 June)
* An Israeli missile attack on a car carrying Palestinian militants kills two civilians (5 June)
* Israel fired artillery shells at 3 Palestinian attempting to enter Israel through the fence, killing two and injuring the third. Shrapnel killed a member of the Palestinian police and wounded another, together with 4 civilians, including a 5-year-old and 17-year-old children, and a 50-year-old man (7 June).
* Israel’s shelled people enjoying their weekend on Gaza’s beach, killing 8 Palestinian civilians including 7 members of the same family, and injuring a further 32 civilians including 13 children (9 June)
* Three Palestinian civilians were killed when Israel fired a missile at a car near Jabalya (9 June)
* An Israeli missile attack on a van driven by Palestinian militants on a busy Gazan highway killed eleven Palestinians including 2 children and 2 paramedics, and injured 30 Palestinians including a number of children (13 June)
* Israel opened fire at a funeral procession east of Jabalya, wounding three 15-year-old children following the procession (13 June)
* An Israeli missile attack on Palestinian militants missed its target and instead killed 3 children and wounded 13 civilians, including 7 children, aged 2, 5, 8, 9, 11, 11, and 16 (20 June)
* An Israeli missile attack that missed its target hit a family home and killed a Palestinian brother and his pregnant sister. The missile injured 11 others, including 7 children aged 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 14, and 14. Four civilians, including a 10-year-old child, were injured near the home. (21 June)
August 5th, 2006 at 6:36 pm
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2006/07/dear-israel-supporters.html
August 5th, 2006 at 6:37 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKq38COoTG8
August 5th, 2006 at 6:40 pm
DANI DANI DANI
WE KNOW WHATS GOING ON ………… ITS YOU THAT IS BLINDED BY YOUR LYING AND GREEDY GOVERNMENT.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GO AWAY.
PLEASE PROVE TO US ONCE AND FOR ALL THAT YOU ARE DEEP DOWN A DECENT IF SOMEWHAT MISGUIDED HUMAN BEING
DO NOT BE LIKE A DOG WITH A BONE, AS YOUR GOVERNMENT IS, KNOW WHEN TO BACK DOWN AND LEAVE US IN PEACE.
NO BODY HERE IS GOING TO LISTEN TO YOUR LIES …… FOR IN OUR EYES AND HEARTS WE RECOGNISE THE TRUTH AND YOU MY FRIEND DO NOT HAVE IT
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GO AWAY
August 5th, 2006 at 7:02 pm
My point here is to emphasize that Israel makes a practise of violating the basic norms of the civilised world, and Zionists are probably less aware of this by virtue of the fact that these norms are notably absent from the constitutional laws of Israel, in whatever form they take. Constitutions are very important to provide a guideline for the values, principles and goals of a society. Israel is seen by the majority of Europeans polled as the most demented, sick society in the world. This is because Zionists are unhinged from fundamental morality and a sound legal compass. They hate the United Nations and all international law, which they see as an impediment to their racist, violent, imperialistic designs. They need help and rehabilitation, and a good constitution could go a long way to effecting this rehabilitation.
Regarding fixed borders, every country should define in some way or another its borders with its neighbours. The absence of borders opens the door for territorial disputes and acts of international aggression. Israel is the most expansionistic, lawless, criminally inclined country in the world in this regard. The establishment of fixed borders by some legal process will go a long way to redirecting the energies of the Zionist cultists towards activities more constructive than trying to take over the territory of its neighbours.
August 5th, 2006 at 7:15 pm
Cause I’ve just went Posting Crazy this will be my last one cause my husband and kids are getting hungry!
I just want you guys to read this very interesting article I came upon online. Very interesting.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/16/AR2006021601897.html
August 5th, 2006 at 7:35 pm
Hey Shawn, YOU - GOT - THAT- RIGHT. Poor widdle itty bitty dandi boy, nobody wants him. Poor widdle ting. Did mumsy and dada kick you out of their sprawling mansion???
And so ….
He rants like a sociopath telling us how we should feel bad for him and creatures of is ilk (poor widdle ting)…
on a blog that shows pictures of two boys whose bodies are burning with the flames still upon them on a street.
A whole family bombed out of their cars with their bodies torn apart and all over the road.
A Dead Little Girl lifted from the road side her head bowed down and her hair hiding her dead face.
Another Dead Little Girl picked out of a rubble in a home - you can’t even see her face with all the soot and ashes all over her.
So many hundreds of LEBANON’S CHILDREN dead like this.
Parents who have lost their children and children who have lost their parents. Brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, grandparents, gone, DEAD, OBLITERATED.
Lebanon hasn’t even had time to count all her dead. At this point I would say there must be well over a thousand.
TAKE A LOOK WORLD: THIS IS ISREAL. THIS IS HOW ISRAEL IS. FOUNDED AND BUILT ON A SOIL OF HATRED AND GREED OF THEIR CREATION. THEY DID A GOOD JOB WORLD. LOOK AT LEBANON, FOR IF YOU LOOK AT LEBANON THEN YOU MUST REMEMBER PALESTINE. THE PALESTINIANS LIVE THIS EVERDAY EVER SINCE 1945.
ISRAEL WILL LIVE AND DIE BY ITS HATRED AND GREED BECAUSE THAT IS ALL IT KNOWS FOR THAT IS ALL IT IS.
And now what we have we here iseral’s pathetic sociopathic cheerleaders making fun at Lebanon’s misery. Look at them World: They are enjoying this. dandi is a perfect representation of ITS country and people.
August 5th, 2006 at 7:54 pm
Heck, I don’t think Josh needs to elaborate. What he said was pretty clear and quite easy to understand. Certainly no need to elaborate.
Thank You Silan for the Washington Post Information. I read it and it was very interesting and so not suprising.
August 5th, 2006 at 8:25 pm
MONA said,
on August 5th, 2006 at 4:27 pm
TO DANI,
GO TO HELL. DONT RIGHT DUMB COMMENTS WHEN YOU NEED A SHRINK!
I dunno about anyone else but I thought Mona made things clear.
August 5th, 2006 at 8:35 pm
Dearest Silan,
You make fantastic points. I could not do better. However I must say that sociopathic behavior CANNOT be rehabilitated. Look at how easy it is for isreali soldiers to kill so many hundreds of women and children, men and the elderly. They bomb and shoot away without any feeling. They are comfy cozy in their grandly expensive spider jets and tanks. They will keep on murdering more innocent people in Lebanon as well as the Palestinians.
They are sociopaths breeded by a sociopathic government founded by a sociopathic movement called zionism.
The world is in very big trouble and the Christian Right are clueless to whom the REAL terrorists are.
Will they find out in time what the real truth is? God I hope so.
August 5th, 2006 at 8:49 pm
Dearest Hassan from Bint Jebeil,
I hope your family is well and safe. I pray everyday for all of the PEOPLE OF LEBANON.
Indeed Hassan, the sociopaths on this site do deserve the hell they create for good and innocent people on Earth.
Only their Hell will be much more intense, tenfold even.
Blessings and Peace to you and your family, Hassan from Bint Jebeil.
August 5th, 2006 at 8:57 pm
LAYAL COULD NOT HAVE BEEN MORE OBJECTIVE. HOW MUCH MORE OBJECTIVITY COULD ONE ASK FOR.
THANK YOU LAYAL FOR YOUR VERY OBJECTIVE POINTS. WELL TAKEN.
August 5th, 2006 at 9:00 pm
OH DANI AND ONE MORE POINT TO PONDER
IF INDEED AS YOUR GOVERNMENT AND YOU KEEP REPEATING ……… THAT HEZBALLAH ARE HIDING AND FIRING ROCKETS FROM AMONGST THE CIVILLIAN POPULATION (AND THIS IS HOW YOU JUSTIFY YOUR MUDEROUS CARNAGE). THEN MY FRIEND I WOULD SAY ISRAEL HAS TO ADMIT DEFEAT AT THE HANDS OF HEZBALLA ……. WHY YOU MAY WELL ASK????
LISTEN TO THIS VERY CAREFULLY ……… SO I DONT HAVE TO REPEAT IT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN
IF IT IS FACT (HAHAHAHAHA) THAT HEZBALLAH ARE DOING AS YOU CLAIM THEN THEY HAVE ALREADY WHUPPED YOUR ASSSES FOR THEY HAVE GOT TO BE THE SMARTEST AND FASTEST GROUP OF FIGHTERS THAT EVER LIVED. FOR AS WE HAVE WITNESSED TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN ANBD AGAIN ………….. WHEN THE DUST SETTLES THE ONLY BLOODIED MESS THAT IS LEFT BEHIND IS THAT OF INNOCENT CHILDREN AND THE OLD, THE FRAIL, AND THE POOR. THERE HAS YET TO BE ANY EVIDENCE OF HEZBALLAH BODIES OR ROCKET LAUNCHERS OR AT THE VERY LEAST EMPTY SHELLS FOUND AMONGST THE CARNAGE LEFT BY YOUR IDF. SO THAT WOULD PROVE THAT THESE FIGHTERS OF FREEDOM MUST BE MAGICAL FOR THEY MANAGE TO ESCAPE YOUR MISSILES OF MURDER TIME AND TIME AGAIN …… LEAVING ONLY THE INNOCENT BEHIND.
WOW AND THESE ARE THE RAGGETY REBEL FORCES WHO FIRE CRUDE ANTIQUATED BY YOUR STANDARDS (UNLIKE YOUR STATE OF THE ART SURGICAL WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION) WHO ARE MAKING YOU AND YOUR MANIAC GOVERNMENT INTO BIGGER FOOLS THAN YOU ALREADY ARE.
TIME TO ADMIT THE TRUTH AND DISAPPEAR INTO THE DEAD SEA WHERE YOU BELONG
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
August 5th, 2006 at 9:13 pm
KILL THE JEWS
KILL THE JEWS
KILL THE JEWS
KILL THE JEWS
KILL THE JEWS
KILL THE JEWS
KILL THE JEWS
KILL ALL THE JEWS
KILL ALL THE JEWS
KILL ALL THE JEWS
KILL ALL THE JEWS
KILL ALL THE JEWS
KILL ALL THE JEWS
KILL ALL THE JEWS
P.S. KILL ALL THE JEWS
August 5th, 2006 at 9:26 pm
SOLUTION FOR THE LEBANESE FOOD SHORTAGE:
BARBEQUED BABY JEWS ON A STICK!
MMMMMM! A FINE DELICASY!
P.S. ADULT JEWS ARE ALSO SOMETIMES EDIBLE BUT BE SURE TO REMOVE THEIR NOSES THEIR BRAINS FILLED WITH POISON ALSO THEIR HEARTS WHICH ARE EXTREMLY BITTER BUT MAY BE USED IN THE GARDEN TO KILL BUGS AND OTHER PESTS
August 5th, 2006 at 9:45 pm
i dont know how to discribe this savage pics that i am seeing but all what i can say that the right will win at last and one more thing god save the arab nation and god helh us to beat the enymyies .
August 5th, 2006 at 9:54 pm
KAREN - so the Christian Right and any Christians for that matter and anyone else that doesn’t agree with you are the real terrorists?
So what about the Fatwas and statements condemning Hezbollah issued by Saudi clerics Sheik Safar al-Hawali, Sheik Abdullah bin Jabreen, Sheik Hamid al-Ali? So I guess they must be terrorists as well although its strange to understand this as al-Hawali was once the inspiration of Osama bin Laden of al-Qaida infamy.
Wouldn’t have anything to do with the conflict between Sunnis and Shi’ites and their extremist elements both of which would love to see the destruction of Israel? I guess some Sunnis are finding it hard to support Hezbollah when the same supporters of Hezbollah are funding and supplying arms to the Shi’ite militias in Iraq that are attacking and killing Sunnis in Iraq.
August 5th, 2006 at 9:57 pm
jewkiller - so intelligent and articulate, not. Obviously you read widely and understand the complexities of the middle east with your comments of such insight and depth. You twat !!!
August 5th, 2006 at 10:14 pm
QUESTION: WHAT MUST WE DO?
ANSWER: KILL ALL THE JEWS!
August 5th, 2006 at 10:53 pm
DANI,
COME YOU BRAVE JEW TELL ME WHERE YOU ARE I WILL KILL YOU FEED YOUR FLESH TO MY CHILDREN YOUR BONES TO THE DOGS THEN FINALLY YOU WILL FIND OUT WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN CHOSEN FOR.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:11 pm
TO DALJON
Lebanon (with an army of a couple of hundred men and two donkeys) can police Hezballah and disarm them once America with its Military Might and Power and Technology at its disposal ………… Can have the power to disarm the insurgents in Iraq ??????????
YOU MORONIC IDIOT!!!!!!!
PEACE TO YOU DUMBASS
August 5th, 2006 at 11:13 pm
Truth,
If you have one truth, a very important truth, amongst a hundred lies, then that truth is still a truth, and as important.
But who will then believe that truth?
And who, even willing, would be able to find it?
August 5th, 2006 at 11:37 pm
jewkiller - and deep down you are really a lovely, caring person, only interested in peace and equality.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:38 pm
TO JEWKILLER
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM THAT KIND OF TALK ……… ITS OBSCENE AND UNCALLED FOR …………..
BELIEVE ME I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR ANGER, BUT TRUELY WE ARE NOT THE SAVAGES THAT THE ISRAELIS TRY TO CONVINCE EVERYONE ELSE THAT WE ARE. AND CARRYING ON A TIRADE LIKE THAT IS TANTAMOUNT TO LOWERING YOURSELF TO THE LEVEL OF THEIR CANNABILISTIC HATE FILLED PM
WHO IS OF COURSE ONLY “PROTECTING HIS STATES BABIES” BY SACRIFICING OURS IN THE MOST COLD HEARTED AND BRUTAL ATTACKS ON AN INNOCENT COUNTRY.
SO PLEASE DO NOT WISH DEATH TO ANY JEW …….
REMEBER THAT THERE ARE SOME AMONGST THEM WHO ARE TRULY APPALLED BY THEIR MANIC LEADERS ATTEMPT TO DESTROY AND ANNIALATE THOSE THAT DARE STAND UP AGAINST HIS NEED FOR GREED…….
THE COMPARISONS TO HITLER ARE GROWING BY THE DAY …… YOU JUST HAVE TO SEE THE GLEAM IN HIS EYES WHEN HE TALKS OF DESTROYING HEZBALLAH (AND THE LEBANESE))
OOOOOO SCAREY
NO MAN WOMAN CHILD RELIGION NATION GOVERNMENT JUDGE ARMY NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO TAKE ANOTHER HUMANS LIFE FOR ANY REASON WHAT SO EVER AT ANY TIME ANY WHERE
I DO NOT WISH DEATH TO THESE TYRANTS ……. I JUST WANT THEM NAMED AND SHAMED SO THAT EVENTUALLY PEOPLE WILL WAKE UP AND CONTAIN THEM FROM THIS ROAD OF MADNESS THAT THEY HAVE UNDERTAKEN.
HEZBALLAH HAS SET THEM ON A COURSE TO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION ………… SO PLEASE DO NOT LOWER YOURSELF TO THEIR CANABILISTIC LEVEL
August 5th, 2006 at 11:57 pm
Okay, mabe I exaggerated a little.
Perhaps the ratio here is more like 50-50 (between truth and lies).
Oh, before you get all huffy, by “here” I mean this forum, this blog. I am most definitely and most explicitely not suggesting an equality between the actions of Israel and of Lebanon (or Hezbollah). So jump on me, if you will, but not over that.
Also, don’t twist my words so that you can claim 100% of the truth to your side (the jew haters who think that they have a vile religion and that there was no holocaust, all those six million just moved to penthouses in manhattan from which they beam their mind control rays towards the white house and anywhere else they can spin their vicious webs of deceit) and the rest of us (those that want to stop the destruction in lebanon, who condemn Israel and any other perpetrator of violence, and want to do everything they can to help).
No, I mean that your group has roughly this ratio (though I am being very kind here).
But you do have this one great and important truth. It is a truth, the essential truth, that almost everyone, on both sides of this acrimonious “debate”, shares.
So why do you insist so fervently, find it so necessary, to bury this crucial truth in a steaming pile of shit?
And why do you accuse those who suggest you remove that truth from the shit (some do this gently, some more frantically), why do you accuse them of denying this truth? Why, when it is so clear all along that they are just trying to protect it?
WHY? WHY? WHY?
August 6th, 2006 at 12:12 am
OMG THAT IS THE FIRST TRUTH YOU HAVE YET TO UTTER ON THIS SITE HAFEEZ (I’ll even refrain from usin my nick 4 U) ALLOW ME TO ADD TO THIS VERY WISE STATEMENT………………
hafeez mohammad said,
on August 5th, 2006 at 11:13 pm
Truth,
If you have one truth, a very important truth, amongst a hundred lies, that truth is THE ONLY truth, and IS important.
But who will then believe that truth? AMONGST THOSE WHO HAVE GROWN ACCUSTOMED TO THE LIES ……………..
And ALL, THAT ARE willing, WILL be able to find it?
FOR THIS IS THE BASIS OF TRUE FAITH IN HUMANITY
PEACE TO THOSE WHO TRUELY SEEK IT
August 6th, 2006 at 12:46 am
Speakin of “ratios”, here’s a little eye-opener for you all.
Many of you have lambasted those who might dare bring up or have sympathy for any possible suffering that the Israelis might be enduring in this current situation.
They say that it is obscene to even suggest any comparison (between Israelis and Lebanese) because suffering on the Lebanese side is so much greater.
You know what? I do not argue with this, I never have.
Those same people, though, often go on to COMPARE (sometimes in the very same post, sometimes even the very next sentence) what Israel is doing here with what Hitler and the Nazis did during world war 2.
Amethyst did that just a short while ago. I quote: THE COMPARISONS TO HITLER ARE GROWING BY THE DAY (from Amethyst, 11:38).
So lets examine these “comparisons” in more detail, and see which is more just, which more injust.
Currently there are about 600 Lebanese casualties and 60 on the Israeli side. These are rough numbers, but we can see that the ratio is about 10 to 1.
Now, the Jewish casualties during world war two were roughly 6,000,000. So in comparing this “holocaust” to what is happening in Lebanon right now, we must have a ratio of 6,000,000 to 600 which reduces down to 10,000 to 1.
So which “comparison” is more unjust? Those of you who know even the simplest of arithmetic can do the division and see that the second “comparison” is approximately 1,000 times worse than the first.
To complain about and reject the first “comparison” is right and proper.
To then go on, and repeatedly, to make the second “comparison” can only be called the worst of hypocrisies, and “obscene” beyond all measure.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:02 am
HAFEEZ MOHAMMAD ARE YOU A JEW? NO I DONT THINK SO YOU ARE EVEN WORSE. COME TELL ME WHERE YOU ARE I WILL KILL YOU CHOP YOU UP BUT I WILL NOT FEED YOU TO MY CHILDREN OR TO THE DOGS YOU ARE FIT ONLY FOR PIGS.
AND I WILL NOT REFRAIN FROM TELLING TO JEWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THEM THEY ARE NOW WARNED LIKE THEY WARNED US . THEY CAN RUN BUT THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO HIDE BECAUSE WE ARE LIKE HEZBOLLAH WE ARE EVERYWHERE.
P.S. DONT FORGET, KILL ALL THE JEWS AND ALSO KILL ALL THE JEW LOVERS LIKE HAFEEZ MOHAMMAD AND ANYONE ELSE.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:18 am
Hey Amethyst,
I’m glad to see that you are no longer harping incessantly about the kol nidre and the balfour declaration.
Perhaps you were educated a little bit on these matters? Well, whatever, there is always hope for improvement.
And nice to see you also counsel a more temperate attitude for this other “person”.
I guess wonders will never cease!
August 6th, 2006 at 1:27 am
HAFEEZ JEW LOVER SHE CAN COUNSEL ALL SHE WANTS BUT SHE BETTER CONSOLE YOUR FAMILY AFTER I KILL YOU.
KILL ALL THE JEWS
KILL ALL THE JEW LOVERS
August 6th, 2006 at 1:31 am
Webmaster would do well to monitor certain posts on this site as some are coming precariously close to if not already breaching various internationally accepted internet protocols regarding incitement and threats.
My skin is tough enough to wear direct threats but others may deem it necessary to take measures over these sort of comments.
Just a thought.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:37 am
You are so, so boring you are putting me to sleep.
That is, if I can, trembling as I will be from such dreadful fear…
August 6th, 2006 at 1:57 am
Dani’s thought on AUG 6TH 2006 at 1:31, I agree
August 6th, 2006 at 2:59 am
TO HAFEEZ
If you took the time to read my postings properly you will see that I have always been temperate in my attitude towards people. My issues are directed and are still directed and will always be directed at the Government of Hitlers little apprentice. When I make a comparison between the Neo Hitler and the Historical Hitler I am not refering to the number of people being slaughtered …….. because even one is always too many.His comparison to Hitler is the madness that enters his eyes when he is talking about Hezballah(and thinking about destroying the Palestinians & Lebanese) I stand by by RIGHT to detest and WANT to see the downfall of this evil man and his evil government. Their AGENDA is not to live in PEACE ……. BUT TO TAKE AS MUCH LAND AS THEY FEEL THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH. And bugger the colatoral damage. Their ever widening borders from the original agreement are PROOF ENOUGH of that.
There is nothing I need to learn about the Belfour Declaration that I dont already know to be TRUE. I have taken the liberty to cut and Paste this from Qasimondos post earlier
Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917
Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty’s Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.
“His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, (WHO GAVE THEM THE RIGHTS TO STEAL THE PALESTINIANS LAND) and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, IT BE CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD THAT NOTHING SHALL BE DONE WHICH MAY PREDJUDICE THE CIVIL AND RELIGOUS RIGHTS OF EXISTING NON-JEWISH COMMUNITIES IN PALESTINE, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”
I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.
Yours sincerely, Arthur James Balfour
Notice the part I’ve changed to CAPS ………. The state of Israel has done nothing but oppress the Palestinians and control them under marshal law and oppress them and take away all the civil rights since the day they were able to. Sure the Palestinians may have been a little offended (HUH!!!!! What an understatement) and wanted to protect the land they had tilled and sewn with the hard work and sweat of their ancestors and put up a fight to keep WHAT WAS RIGHTFULLY THEIRS. If you then say that these quasi jews had a right to their “original homeland” (Again HUH!) then its time for all the western cultures to leave their land and hand it back to the rightful owners … the natives that occupied that land before they came and took it away from them ……….. SAME ARGUMENT
What will truely be a miracle is when you and those that believe as you come to see the State of Israel for what it truely is ……………………….
August 6th, 2006 at 6:22 am
Hafeez, I find your mail on Aug 6 2006 at 12:46 am offensive since you find most poeple worthy of this, most people on this site understand that which you unfairly bring up in ratio , which they did not. Do you want them to feel guilty for atrocities they did not commit. Israel is the oppressor, Lebanon is destroyed, innocents slaughtered, murdered. The only thing I feel you opened is the eyes of those who might of thought the world learned from that horrific event of WW II, but it seems not. Israel is treating people from the middle east like they are not human, they dehumanize them, Palestine and Lebanon ect.. It is more than just killings for decades, it is factually a constant dehuminization and authoritarian control on a daily basis. This is nothing to be proud of or to defend, do not place those who are defending the people of the middle east for basic human rights in the same boat as those few that seem like serial killer kkk maniacs , they do not like anyone in the middle east also, Arab or Jew. Israel needs to have accountability that they are in the wrong on many issues and the facts speak for themselves. Lebanon has been destroyed and I hope you do not feel it is okay because of justification, there never was justification to treat people the way Israel has. Like Shawn said, Israel should suck it up and admit to misjustices and start treating the people of the middle east with the dignity that they have stolen from them. Israel is the oppressor.If you want to start peace, then you have to begin by accepting that the weaker and less fortunate have the right to live in peace also, do not place them in such dire controlled circumstances and let children grow up resisting (some too weak too resist, others not, others too scared and oppressed, but all have the right,yes?)Israelis dehumanization of their lives. Give them dignity, the dignity that Israel took from them.
And for Lebanon, shameful what Israel has done to Lebanon once again … very sad, very arrogant, very ignorrant, very unfortunate, very inhumane. Do you blame Palestinians for being occupied? I hope not. Germans thought Jewish people were inferior, and other peoples also,yes?. If you feel that Palestinian people are not inferior, then why are they treated that way by Israel?Do you agree?Having power and vast resources is not an excuse,yes?. Or do you feel Israeli treatment of Palestinian people is not to be compared with anything, especially German rascism in WW II. Do you feel Israeli rascism and dehumanization and control of people is not rascism or dehumanization because Palestinians people are not even comparable to Jewish people?I hope not. You say that we should look at both sides killings, we are, but the difference is who is the oppressor , Israel,do you think so? I hope so. Do you think that Jewish people think they are above comparison to any other people? I hope not,if not, then do you think that Israeli people can dehumanize and control without critism because their dehumanization and control did not include gas chambers? I hope not. Or is all this about how many people suffered horribly during WWII, specifically the Holocaust? I hope not, I hope this is about those innocent being oppressed by Israel. Do you agree? I hope so, or do you feel that Israel is not the oppressor? I hope not, because then we come back to the daily control and dehumanization of Palestinian people and the destruction of Lebanon, and then we come back to basic human rights.
Palestinians deserve basic human rights and not occupation and not control and dehumanization, and Lebanon deserved their country not to be destroyed,yes? I hope you agree. I hope Palestinian people and the people of Lebanon deserve support, yes? I hope you feel Israel should begin to change it’s authoritarian controlling dehuminization policies and actions, yes? An entire people thinking they are better and feel they have the right controlling others……or is it just about 10000 to 1 ratio compared to WW2?. World War Two is what everyone should remember and should learn from so it never repeats. The middle east is reminding people of how fragile and vulnerable the wolrd is and how quickly things can escalate to effect all people. If Israel is not above this, than simply focus on how they treat human beings and try to change their attitudes that they are just as equal as any one else.Germany had power, Isreal has power, Germany used it to dehumanize and control and occupy, so does Israel. Palestinians and Lebanese ext. Or since you missed the entire point of the comparison was about control and rascism and occupation and dehumanization, not figures of how many specifically Jewish people were killed in WWII, then at least tell us when you label so many on this sight so unfairly to being insensitive to the ratio(which only you compared casualty figures between todays casualties and specifically Jewish deaths in WW II ) at least try to understand why many would think it is you are are being hypcritical and obscene. The other comparisons are comparisons for the same events , but what holds true in all wars is the treatment of peoples by an aggressor, oppressor. Does Israel feel it is better than Palestinians, or do they just dehumanize and control them because they do not know what to do with them in the controlled poverty enviroment they placed them in. And Lebanon is destroyed(again) for justification against resistance that Israel created themselves? It is not completely far fetched to say the humanitarian crisis is huge and expanded, blame resistance? you will find it hard to find an Israeli blaming himself or his government, why is that..are they better than others and above seeing their own factual dehumanization and control and occupation and destructions of peoples? Or is it because you think every one is a rascist except for Israel?I hope not. Is that why everyone seems to be so uneducated and obscene and hypocritical to you? Nobody learned anything from world war II except not to use gas chambers? Is that your thinking, world war two was just about gas chambers and you think nobody is human enough to know how many died and the magnitude? WW II was about suffering the world had to endure because of an oppressive ideology that started in Germany, nazism….dehumanization, occupation, control, the better race ,etc…..You feel Israel is not guilty of anything in comparison because of how many died in WWII under the hands of the nazis? Or are you trying to make everyone feel guilty for the Holocaust because of reference to WWII and feel like monsters for that. Since you play the great wise humanitarian needing to focus on figures from Israel , then who is the oppressor? then when are the real issues going to be accounted for ? Israel is above critism? better than others, in fact so much better that we cannot even focus on their crimes and occupation and daily treatment of peoples that are not Jewish? We cannot focus on stopping the oppressor? we have to be lectured on how insensitive and rascist we are? Were does the humanitarian fit in if you allow a Israel to continue to oppress and justify it by counting their innocent, it will never end and will just escalate if we do not first take the side of the oppressed . Innocence die on both sides but nothing will change until responsibility is focused on basic human rights
August 6th, 2006 at 6:46 am
To Palestine,
Thank you for once again explaining the REAL situation to those who still want to call Israel the VICTIM. It has continued this humanistion for decades now ………………….. anyone that stands up to resist it (Hezballa, Hamas) is labled a Terrorist.
You dont need to research History books to know this …….. As I have said repeatidly OPEN YOUR EYES, YOUR EARS AND YOUR HEARTS and the TRUTH is there for those that seek it.
PEACE TO ALL THOSE THAT TRUELY SEEK IT
August 6th, 2006 at 7:12 am
Why can’t you people acknowledge something that is so simple?
I have been saying, and continue to say, that it is perfectly correct to criticize and even condemn israel for these actions.
And it is fine, in this regard, to talk about oppression and so forth.
In this, I ,and scholars such as Noam Chomsky, would back you up 100%.
But when you try to brand Israel or the jews as somehow being on a “par” with Hitler and the Nazis, this is completely outrageous and unfair, and, as I have shown, much, much worse even than the “comparison” made by some apologists that try to equate the suffering endured by lebanon and israel.
Yes I know you think you are so clever, calling jews the same as their worst enemy, the epitome of all their tormenters, but this is a completely vile tactic or stratagem, one meant obviously only to sting and injure, to poke at a still festering wound, not as some appeal to reason.
And people like Noam Chomsky, activists and progressives, will berate you just as strongly, just as unequivocably, as they now berate the Israeli government.
That is what I keep repeating, again and again.
Stop polluting your good argument with these things, these poisons.
It turns you into liars and bigots, and your truth gets lost in the process.
August 6th, 2006 at 7:26 am
Truth = Lebanon
Lie = Israeli government
Result = Freedom
Who = Lebanon
Why = We are the Truth!
Peace and Viva Lebanon.
August 6th, 2006 at 7:34 am
To the liers,
the truth is…
The Israeli government IS IT’S OWN WORST ENEMY.
If it was not, IT WOULD NOT HAVE CAUSED SO MUCH DEATH.
This is TRUTH.
To my people, stand tall, we have no fear. We have the truth.
Viva Lebanon.
August 6th, 2006 at 7:43 am
A last word before I say good night,
My people I say please no need to prove any point or explain any reason for our view….
For it is the TRUTH. Nothing & no one Else matters, LIES do NOT matter.
Viva Lebanon.
August 6th, 2006 at 8:04 am
Hafeez Mohammad, I am not a” liar and a bigot”, a monster who “cleverly” wants to pollute the Issue of the middle east with the sufferings of Jewish people in WWII. “Oviously only to sting and injure” “to poke at a still festering wound” ..a”complete vile tactic or stratagem” among other things……
I agree that WWII is not to be mentioned anymore,and I agree that the Holocaust can easily pollute a good argument with poisons with a liar and a bigot…… but it did not give you the right to go into it with such detail and self appointed comparison and then after blame others who are responding to your unfair details and comparison trying to tell you they are not talking about that, do not promote rascism with your own stupidity Try to understand people are more decent than you think, and then you can start treating them differently yourself
August 6th, 2006 at 9:20 am
To Karen and Amethyst and others who complain about the appropriateness of those who might dare show some divergence of opinion on this site, for example, Shawn, when he stated on August 3rd, 2006 at 11:27 am:
“The webmaster did not set this site up for people like Dani to come here and tell us how wonderful the Israeli government is and all the wonderful contributions Israel has made to this world.”
The webmaster is the final and really only authority on this site, so let’s go back and see what he had to say on the matter :
webmaster said,
on July 27th, 2006 at 3:42 pm
This forum is open to all opinions, and all points of view. There is no need to resort to personal attacks when trying to prove a point.
You have an opinion, I have an opinion, and we don’t necessarily have to agree all the time. Everyone’s entitled to their own.
All you can do is present your opinion, back it with factual arguments, and hope it makes a difference.
The only condition to posting here is respect.
You can say anything you want.
Diversity is not only welcome, it’s encouraged.
This should be the the final nail in the coffin for those who are repeatedly asking others to leave.
You can, if you like, create your own blog or blogs, wherein you can set your own rules, engage in all the jew-bashing and crocodile tears you desire or whatever gets your groove on.
But here the webmaster rules, no one else.
You should note how he has stressed:
“The only condition to posting here is respect.”
You should all keep that in mind.
It seems to me that people like Dani, no matter how much I might disagree with his opinions, has at least followed this one rule and shown much greater “respect” than many of you have.
Indeed, I think the webmaster has been very, very lenient with a lot of you in this regard.
The second thing the webmaster has stressed is the following:
“Diversity is not only welcome, it’s encouraged.”
So, those of you who only seek solace and consolation, or only seek to vent their justiiable anger and rage, should perhaps go elsewhere for this, or at least proceed with caution here.
Webmaster, no need for you to step in, you have been very clear on this matter already.
I wish to thank you, if I have not done so already, for providing such a forum.
I went back and checked all your previous comments, and have, at best, only a few minor quibbles with any of them. Your voice has always been a calm and reasoned one, always seeming to strive for a greater mutual understand between us all.
To achieve this, their is the need, the necessity even, for different perspectives, different views, and not only “tolerance” for such but also a willingness to give them thoughtful consideration.
That so many here are so unwilling to do this (even though I empathize most strongly with their plight and with their grief, even with their rage) I have found to be a very sad education.
I only wish that they would do more to emulate you, on your path towards such genuinely noble goals.
August 6th, 2006 at 10:03 am
MAY ALLAH TAKE U OUT ALL MY DEAR LEBANONS FROM THIS HELL……
I THINK SORRY NOW I M SURE THAT AMERICANS HAVE NO SENSE
ALOTOGETHER UNO ALSO….
MAY ALLAH DESTROY ISRAEL…….
I M PRAYING 2 ALL MY DEAR LEBANONS ITS TIME 4 JIHAD
DON,T U ALL WORRY JUST CONCENTARTE ON JIHAD AND KILL THEM UNTIL U HAVE A LAST DROP OF BLOOD IN UR BODY……..
MAY ALLAH SUCCEED U IN EVERY FEILD
ALL MY PRAYS AND SYMPATHIES R WITH U MY DEAR LEBANONS…..
MAY ALLAH DESTROY ISRAEL….AMEEN SUM-A-AMEEN…….
ALLAH BLESS U LEBANON
REGARDS….A PAKISTANI….
August 6th, 2006 at 10:24 am
respected bro dani!
i m too late but to make a reply to u
i m a peaceful Pakistani n just 13 in age
for u mr.dani what is definition of terrorism?
first please make it clear
u know what we r taught to behave courteously to jews-christians-hindus n whosoever they but u always taunt us
u always force us to do which we dont want to do
they made caricatures of prophet Mohammad (SAW)
what do u say
what if we had made caricatures of moses this way n associated him with ongoing terrorism
wasnt it enough to provoke us?
no?
wasnt it ur fault -say fault of west?
what do u say for that?
are just muslims terrorists>or does a terrorist have n e religion?
yes then who r tamil tigers,shewsina,zionists n many others?
there is no account for them of course because they r muslims
muslims r given the rank of cattle
this is ur own will if u want to kill themn
then okay
u have right to do this -be this in the name of peace?
aah
August 6th, 2006 at 10:31 am
I HAVE NO DOUBT…ALLAH WILL PUNISH ISRAIL KILLERS!!! THE USA AND ENGLAND, ISRAIL .. THIS IS NOT A HUMAN THING!!!
August 6th, 2006 at 10:41 am
FOR GOD’S SAKE DO NOT BRING INDIA-PAKISTAN HERE
THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE WE SHOULD FORGET IT FOR SOMETIME
NO MORE INDO-PAK FIGHTS
IF INDIANS DARE-COME ON INVADE US FIGHT WITH US DONT POST THESE COWARD COMMENTS OVER HERE
TALK TO ME IF U DARE!
U R INDIANS BUT UNFORTUNATELY ALSO HUMAN
HOW DARE U BLAME MY PAKISTAN
PAKISTAN WILL SPOKE UR EYES OUT
GOT IT?
MY PAKISTAN IS BRAVE AS A LION.
U SCUMS!
NEVER WANT PEACE
U HINDUS!
IDOL WORSHIPPERS
STUPID FOLKS
August 6th, 2006 at 10:50 am
INDIANS HAVE CROSSED THEIR EVERY LIMIT IN KASHMIR
THE PLIGHT OF KASHMIR IS JUST LIKE OF PALESTINE
INDIANS KILL KASHMIRIS FOR NO REASONS AT ALL
THEY HAVE FORCED THOUSANDS OF KASHMIRI MUSSALMANS INTO HINDUISN UNTIL NOW
THEY HAVE MARTYRED 90 THOUSAND KASHMIRI MUSSALMANS UNTIL NOW
N KASHMIRIS?
WHAT THEY ASK FOR IS JUST INDEPENDENCE!
WHICH INDIANS SNATCHED FROM THEM BY UTTER CHEAT
KASHMIR WOULD BE LIBERATED (INSHALLAH)
KASHMIR HAS NEVER BEEN A PART OF INDIA NOR IT WOULD BE
NEVER EVER
August 6th, 2006 at 10:57 am
Amethyst,
I am really,really, perplexed with you!
I had thought that you had presented this “Balfour Declaration” as a document proving the perfidy of the jews; that, in order to steal all the land from the palestinians, they made an “unholy” alliance with the British that was also a betrayal, by the jews, of their German “patrons” (who had so lovingly given them a home). So that, while stealing what was not their right to steal, they also brought their “holocaust” upon themselves, no fault of the “peace-loving” german people.
Here are your own words.
July 29th, 2006 at 7:13 pm:
1. Tell us what the Jewish role was (if your willing to admit it) in the extention of WW1 AFTER the Germans offered the British a negotiated peace on what Lawyers call a ’status quo anti’ basis in 1916
2. What? If anything can you tell us about the “Balfour Declaration”?
July 30th, 2006 at 4:52 am (the same message repeated):
1. Tell us what the Jewish role was (if your willing to admit it) in the extention of WW1 AFTER the Germans offered the British a negotiated peace on what Lawyers call a ’status quo anti’ basis in 1916
2. What? If anything can you tell us about the “Balfour Declaration”?
July 30th, 2006 at 7:55 pm:
Ask any Jew what the ‘Balfour Declaration’ is and see what sought of answers you get.
July 31st, 2006 at 5:53 am (first message repeated for the third time):
1. Tell us what the Jewish role was (if your willing to admit it) in the extention of WW1 AFTER the Germans offered the British a negotiated peace on what Lawyers call a ’status quo anti’ basis in 1916
2. What? If anything can you tell us about the “Balfour Declaration”?
July 31st, 2006 at 7:47 pm:
A quasi Jew are those that have no claim whatsoever to this so called ‘Promised Land’. The same Jews that went to the English government in 1916 with a deal to end all deals. The English had been abandoned by their allies because the Germans had pulvarised them and they were left to face the Germans alone. The German Jews (the same ones that Germany had given shelter to and supported and were allowed to build themselves very successfull business, finance and media) went to the English and told them not to take up the the PEACE agreement set out by the Germans (one that they were on the verge of accepting), because they can help them beat the Germans by bringing in the US to fight on their side. So the influential Jews in the US put pressure on their government to join this war that they had no quarrel in. It worked ….. the English accepted the Jews offer and the US joined the war and eventually they beat Germany. But as history has already told us Jews dont do anything for FREE. WHAT PRICE did the quasi jews want??? ……. the Deliverance of Palestine to them (these Jews whose ancestors had never set foot in “The Promised Land” and have no claim to it. Because the English had no right to promise them this land they drew up a complicated vaery specially worded document call ‘The Balfour Declaration’ which promised the land of PALESTINE to the
quasi jews.
August 1st, 2006 at 8:45 pm (same diatribe repeated):
A quasi Jew are those that have no claim whatsoever to this so called ‘Promised Land’. The same Jews that went to the English government in 1916 with a deal to end all deals. The English had been abandoned by their allies because the Germans had pulvarised them and they were left to face the Germans alone. The German Jews (the same ones that Germany had given shelter to and supported and were allowed to build themselves very successfull business, finance and media) went to the English and told them not to take up the the PEACE agreement set out by the Germans (one that they were on the verge of accepting), because they can help them beat the Germans by bringing in the US to fight on their side. So the influential Jews in the US put pressure on their government to join this war that they had no quarrel in. It worked ….. the English accepted the Jews offer and the US joined the war and eventually they beat Germany. But as history has already told us Jews dont do anything for FREE. WHAT PRICE did the quasi jews want??? ……. the Deliverance of Palestine to them (these Jews whose ancestors had never set foot in “The Promised Land” and have no claim to it. Because the English had no right to promise them this land they drew up a complicated vaery specially worded document call ‘The Balfour Declaration’ which promised the land of PALESTINE to the quasi jews.
August 2nd, 2006 at 11:32 pm:
The Balfour Declaration promised them all of Palestine and they got 65%, they have systematically been trying to get the other 35% ever since.
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:28 am:
What of “the Balfour Declaration” and how it came into existance. What of your Kol Nidre prayer ……. you have yet to comment on either of those issues. You have brought up your historical rights time and again. Please explain these two things from your justified point of view ………………….
These are all your own words, Amethyst, and only your words.
For the edification of others lets bring it once more out into the light.
The Balfour Declaration,in its entirety:
Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917
Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty’s Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.
“His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”
I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.
Yours sincerely, Arthur James Balfour
This is it, not a single letter missing.
By the way how is this a ” a complicated vaery specially worded document “.
It seems very simple to me.
And how does this promise the jews all palestinian land?
You must know, for instance, that until recently, Palestinians have claimed a state that would include all of Israel, Jordan, the West Bank and Gaza.
Also, it only says that the British Government will “view with favor” the establishment of a “jewish national home ” IN Palestine. It does not say ALL of Palestine, nor does it say that the jewish people would have any right to either expel or rule over the the palestinian people any of any other people who lived in those lands.
In fact, it seems to say quite the opposite.
Indeed, I presented this previously, for this very reason, not only because you kept on harping about it, but because it was so short and simple, I thought anyone could see how clearly and unequivocably you had misrepresented it.
Now you want to turn it around again, not admit your mistake.
Amethyst! I already stressed those things which you have now capitalized. That was entirely my point.
But first you condemn this document (see all of the above) and now you condemn Israel (or the jews) for not following it!
Huh!?!???
This seems so puzzling!
But I guess this is the same “tactic” always used, you know, just turn everything so “cleverly” around.
You know, the jews are all nazis, they perpetrate ethnic cleansing, genocide even, they are the real terrorists with a religion that tells them to lie, they make vile agreements which they are bastards for not keeping, etc. etc. etc.
This ploy may have seemed clever the first few times it was used, but by now it is just tiresome.
At least stop being a one-trick pony…
August 6th, 2006 at 11:13 am
Amethyst,
You define a quasi-jew as “these Jews whose ancestors had never set foot in “The Promised Land” and have no claim to it”.
So, logically, you agree that those whose ancestors did indeed live in this land do indeed have some claim to it?
So please, I ask you sincerely to tell me where you believe their ancestors did come from, if not Israel?
August 6th, 2006 at 11:36 am
So many of you here keep claiming that Israel is expansionist, always gobbling up more and more land.
True, I do not know what is in their hearts, what it is that “they” desire.
But let’s look at the reality here please.
Since 1967 what actual increase in territory has occurred or even been attempted?
In fact, it seems they have even retreated, from the vast area of the Sinai, from Gaza; sure, there is the occupation of the west bank (which is not recent, though) and the occupation of Lebanon, before and now once again.
Unequivocably, they should leave both areas, and immediately is the best time frame to do so.
But do any of you really believe, presently, that there is some settler movement that will soon take up residence in these newly “occupied” Lebanese lands?
So, it seems that the Israelis have not gained even one square centimeter of land for many decades, hardly a resounding success for any alleged expansionism.
And so hardly a valid argument to batter them with.
Like I keep saying, keep to the one true thing (look to the title of the blog if you have forgotten what that is).
August 6th, 2006 at 11:42 am
WHAT IS CLEAR TO ME, AND BELIEVE ME, I FIND THIS VERY HELPFUL, IS THAT EVERYONE SHOULD SIMPLY IGNORE THE POSTS OF HAFEZ, DANI, AND QUASIMODO. SERIOUSLY. I JUST ZIP THROUGH THEM. WHAT THEY ARE ALL SAYING IS BASICALLY THIS:
“IT IS ALL VERY SAD AND UNFORTUNATE WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO LEBANON BUT WE REALLY DO NOT CARE.” THIS IS THEIR WHOLE MAIN THEME. THEY TALK ABOUT PEACE AND BROTHERHOOD AND ALL THAT IS FAIR. BUT THEIR HATE FOR MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS OF LEBANON IS ALL VERY CLEAR TO ME. THEY DO NOT HAVE TO SAY IT EXACTLY. BUT THE HATE IS THERE AND DEFINITELY NOT HARD TO DECIPHER.
BUT THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION OF LEBANON. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT HUNDREDS OF FAMILIES GONE.
THEY ARE PLAYING SICK SAD GAMES WITH US. PALESTINE, AMETHYST, STEL, SHAWN, CAROLINE, AND SILAN YOUR GOOD WORDS ARE WASTED ON THESE LAME USERS. HOWEVER, THEY ARE NOT WASTED ON OTHER PEOPLE READING YOUR WORDS AND I AM SURE YOUR WORDS ARE REACHING OTHERS WHO HAVE BETTER MINDS AND UNDERSTAND WELL WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I, MYSELF, HAVE BEEN LEARNING VERY MUCH.
I AM VERY HEARTENED BY THE PEOPLE ON THIS BLOG WHO DO NOT PLAY AWFUL GAMES WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE HURTING.
August 6th, 2006 at 11:48 am
Quasimondo,
I used to enjoy reading your posts because there was something there to learn from. But you have become boring. You whole justification for being here now is to pick apart the blogs of others and pick out the discrepancies. As far as your comment about it being a sad education, that is your opinion. All the articles and links to articles, personal experiences and raw human emotion of those who are there and directly involved is an awesome education in humanity. You bore me because know one knows what side of the fence your on. Is it a side of humanity or a side of genocide? Your words to me were eloquent and well thought out. Now you sound pompous, ostentatious and like a downright snob. You are passionate about arguing with Amethyst but where do you really stand on the issue at hand. Like you side I have my opinion, you have yours. But why do you verbally beat one down who is passionate? I don’t hear any passion from you about anything other than to disagree with people on here.
Dani,
You complaint to webmaster is almost hilarious after this comment.
Dani said,
on August 5th, 2006 at 3:57 pm
Hassan from Bint Jebeil - looks like the Israelis missed one, but don’t worry, they will be back for you
August 6th, 2006 at 12:40 pm
Poor, poor Amethyst,
You say efforts to label you racist are falling on “deaf ears”.
Those ears are deaf, my dear, entirely because they are racist ears.
My “ears” were just like yours, once, so II know very well what I speak about here.
How about we stretch this analogy a bit and identify “racism” with the wax that builds up within your ears. So it is not the ears themselves that are racist, but they are like a stereo system that can play various forms of music.
You seem to have gone your entire life without any cleaning, and it is long past time to have the wax removed, and, as it will probably be extremely compacted, you will likely need a doctor to do this. But it is necessary, for failure to do so might lead to more dire consequences than even deafness.
You know, Amethyst, Quasimondo is a stupid fool for thinking that just talking gently to you, begging your forgiveness and all that crap, will make that “wax” just magically disappear from you, as if his words were some sort of futuristic ultrasonic medical device.
And I for one would
never “forgive” you.
Not because you don’t need it, or because all your suffering and misery somehow “excuse” you.
No, I would not forgive you because you don’t deserve to be forgiven.
Not until you change, can such things be forgotten and forgiven.
Things such as the following, from later in your same post:
“Hezballah means GODS WORK, and I can finally see that they are doing GODS work by allowing Israel to SHOW its real face of EVIL”
This statement is an utter and unbelievable obscenity; even I was shocked when I read this.
You know, I understand where your hatred of Israel comes from.
I even understand where the prejudice and yes, even racism within you comes (I think it wrong, but I understand it).
But this, this I cannot understand at all, cannot conceive of any ameliorating factor.
That you hate Israel so much that it is more important than compassion for your own people, that proving how evil jews are is worth the sacrifice of your children, your mothers and fathers, your brothers and sisters, all these people, sacrificed on your altar of hatred, this is just, just…unspeakably repugnant.
I have come to doubt that you are even Lebanese, that you have made up these stories to somehow stengthen your case. I don’t know, I shouldn’t even suggest such a thing, but I do not understand how such a cold, cold position could be possible.
If you were syrian or iranian or palestinian or french or pakistani, or whatever else, I could, perhaps comprehend such a callous cynicism.
But not from you.
Do you really believe that it is God’s Work to show that jews are evil (or quasi-jews, in your terminology)?
Do you really believe that God would demand such a an awful and terrible sacrifice, a torrent of death and destruction, to do this?
And are you really such a true believer in this God of yours, that you do not hesitate to fulfill this sacrifice, but rush rather onward in joyous abandon and celebration?
August 6th, 2006 at 1:11 pm
Shawn,
The side that HE is on is the side of the massively expensive tanks and spider jets that have destroyed Lebanon.
The side that HE is on is the side that has caused so much bloodshed of civilians and their babies and children.
His DETACHED COLD DEMEANOR explains all. He is no different from the other two.
HIS and their long passive-aggressive monologues are not lost on most of us who can see what they are really saying.
When HE and they are not blogging they are bowing down to their great gods: condolesa rice, bush, gillerman, pazner, harper, and all the other bloodthirsty bullies.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:15 pm
Shawn,
How can you keep repeating that I am sitting on a fence?
How many times do I have to keep repeating that I unequivocably and without reservation condemn the actions of Israel? That I grieve for all the suffering and destruction?
And try telling my wife that I am not passionate; she would soon disabuse you of that ridiculous notion.
So how is it wrong of me to be shocked at what I have found so prevalent here?
I have felt like a black person, at a union rally, standing side by side, in “solidarity”, with members of the KKK (or who at least appeared as such, having donned those unmistakable white caps and gowns).
Really, is it so wrong for me to make a humble suggestion that you might want to doff those garments?
Is this so terrible, so godawful, so inhumane???
Is this really so offensive as to go beyond the bounds of all decency or sensitivity or of empathy?
August 6th, 2006 at 1:17 pm
Shawn,
How can you keep saying that I am sitting on a fence?
How many times do I have to keep repeating that I unequivocably and without reservation condemn the actions of Israel? That I grieve for all the suffering and destruction?
And try telling my wife that I am not passionate; she would soon disabuse you of that ridiculous notion.
So how is it wrong of me to be shocked at what I have found so prevalent here?
I have felt like a black person, at a union rally, standing side by side, in “solidarity”, with members of the KKK (or who at least appeared as such, having donned those unmistakable white caps and gowns).
Really, is it so wrong for me to make a humble suggestion that you might want to doff those garments?
Is this so terrible, so godawful, so inhumane???
Is this really so offensive as to go beyond the bounds of all decency or sensitivity or of empathy?
August 6th, 2006 at 1:42 pm
Shawn,
And about Amethyst, I have certainly not been badgering her.
It seems to me quite the opposite.
Following is the “straw” that finally broke the camel’s back:
Amethyst said,
on August 3rd, 2006 at 6:16 pm
Has anyone noticed that Ive asked about the “The Belfour Declaration” and how it came about at least 6 times and not one of these Israeli loyalists have dared to give me an answer …….. Why is that do you suppose??? I have also asked about “Kol Nidre” at least 6 times and same …… No answer??
With the Jewish holy day of Yom Kippur (Day of Attonement) comeing up, there will be lots of Jews out praying ‘Kol Nidre’
“For the next twelve months No Oath I make is an Oath, No Pledge I make is A Pledge, No Promise I make is a Promise”
This prayer from a Terrorist state that wants us to sympathise and understand their need for Revenge on the Arabs (Ooooops I meant Self preservation …………. SOOOORRRRREEEEE)
Yes, at least six times (the above makes a seventh) she taunted Dani and others with this stupid reference to the Balfour Doctrine and the Kol Nidre, as if it were a gauntlet thrown down for a challenge to duel.
While I have always thought it senseless, even offensive, to wrestle with the dogmas of racism, that to do so gives them more value than they would ever have (which is none), still I thought “enough is enough”, maybe she is a reasonable person, just a little bit misguided, as she puts it, so, even though it was loathsome to do so, I gave her the “answers” to the questions she constantly asked, these things that she has used to shore up the pillars of here prejudice, of her bias.
It was easy to do, and in no way an attack on her.
My presumption was that she was sincerely looking for understanding about these concerns, else she would have to believe that there are actually persons or groups that believe themselves evil.
I did not think that my “great wisdom” would lead immediately to her enlightenment, and that she would now be singing paens to olmert or bush (heavens forfend!!!) but I had hoped that her mind might open the slightest bit.
It was a very slim hope, I know.
But, these days, slim hopes are all we’ve got…
Is that enough “passion” for you, Shawn?
August 6th, 2006 at 2:59 pm
Quasimondo,
I don’t know how to answer the questions about Amethyst since I don’t know her personally. I will share this with you though. I have spent years reading about the conflicts of the Middle East and it moved me so that I now am on a spiritual (or what I hope to be a spiritual) journey into Islam. After all I’ve learned I understand the anger to a point. If I were born a Muslim there is a possibility my anger would be as great as hers.
My anger stems from the fact I felt I have deceived by my government for most of my life. I don’t know for sure but I feel her anger stems from being born Muslim and knowing oppression first hand. I feel for the Palestinians, Lebanese and the rest of the Arab world that must deal with Israel. I feel just as bad for the Arab countries like Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan who’s leaders don’t side with Israel but condemn this action Israel has taken. Their residents are forced to choke on their Government’s decision to stand aside while their Muslim brothers and sisters are slaughtered. Why? Because they have chosen to be friends (to a point) with the U.S.
I don’t blame them and their anger. Now only do I not respond to the dumb asses that get on here for one post to say idiotic things like “kill all Jews or Kill all the Lebanese, they get what they deserve”. But I also steer clear of the ones that try to stay for a little while. I agree with Amethyst when she says she feels as though Dani is causing the same terror on here they are known for. So much of Israel’s power is verbal and I think her and others on here are inflamed by his not only being here but the fact his words have no merit. He is here strictly to provoke.
If you’ve been or do live in the U.S. you know this. Our media, entertainment world and most of our politics are either owned or funded by Jews so they are mighty powerful here in the U.S. The line has been drawn in the sand as far as my government is concerned. They have chosen their side and what’s even worse they claim to speak for me. I hope the rest of the world realizes a lot of Americans don’t always vote for someone rather we vote against someone else.
Your position has been hard to understand because you seem to spend so much time proving a point your message is lost in all the rhetoric. If Amethyst is truly angry why won’t you let her work through that with maybe some information or articles rather than attacking?
August 6th, 2006 at 3:37 pm
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August 6th, 2006 at 4:35 pm
Inna Lillahi wa Inna ilayhi rajeeun
May Allah send his curse on the terrorists and bless the people of Lebanon and give them patience to bear this pain with fortitude. Ameen
August 6th, 2006 at 4:38 pm
The last thing that Lebanon could ever want or need is the isreali military occupying more of their land, let alone occupy its borders. The world has seen what a fine neighbor that isreal is - it is no wonder that Lebanon will not settle for “peace” on isreal’s and the USA’s terms.
Lebanon surely does not need to be another occupied territory where massacres and blood shed occur daily as they do in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, courtesy of the monster military that is isreal.
Lebanon certainly does not need those vicious isreali settlers setting up fine homes in their country and depriving the Lebanese People of their country’s resources which is exactly what has happened to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip for so many years now.
Furthermore,
I do NOT see Amethyst taunting anyone with wanting answers about the Balfour Declaration and the true meaning of Kol Nidre. She has a right to ask as many questions about whatever she wants! (Obviously, she already knows the answers).WHO ARE YOU???
Well if this bothers some poor folks around here then they can LEAVE.
Amethyst’s mind does not HAVE TO OPEN in the slightest. Her mind is quite open. Amethyst is HARDLY MISGUIDED. You can take your “slim hopes” and shove it.
August 6th, 2006 at 5:09 pm
An example of jewish control of the media:
Reuters admits image of Beirut after IAF strike was doctored
The Reuters news agency admitted Sunday that it had published a doctored photograph of Beirut after an Israel Air Force strike on Saturday morning.
In the original image, thin smoke can be seen rising over the Lebanese capital, but in the second photograph, thick, black smoke can be seen billowing over the buildings.
Reuters said that it has suspended Adnan Hajj, the Lebanese photographer who submitted the image, until further notice. The organization also said that it is investigating the incident.
Sorry Shawn, but you brougnt this nonsense up. If your eyes were really open, your research (I really hesitate to call it that) objective, you would realize that you have just exchanged one set of lies for another.
And no, this does not mean that I doubt or justify in the slightest this terrible situation in Lebanon.
The opposite of a lie is not necessarily the “truth”. This is the grave mistake that so many of you “reformed” americans take.
And listen, bud, I know the middle better than you ever will.
There are conflicts there that have nothing to do with any jewish interference.
There are the many territorial ones that would remain, even if the jews and israel had never existed, such as the pan-Arabism of Nasser, the Greater Palestine of Arafat, the Greater Iraq of Sadam, the Kurdish desire for their own state, etc. the list is endless.
It seems almost everybody is and was greedy for land, not just the jews.
If you find need to place blame elsewhere outside the region, the best place to go is no farther than europe, especially the British, who used their “divide and conquer” tactics everywhere throughtout the region, beween different factions of arabs and other muslims, and yes, between muslims and jews in palestine, iraq and elsewhere.
These British, and other Europeans (such as the French) when finally forced to relinquish their colonial rule, did a really sloppy job of dividing up this land into sovereign countries (actually probably designed knowingly to keep such countries and peoples ever in conflict, their societies always weak, and thus vulnerable to the continued exploitation of their resourses (primarily oil).
The Americans were a latecomer to all this but avidly took up the baton when it became available.
So many of these territorial disputes, even those non-jewish in nature, can be traced to these sources whose interests and motives were far from benign.
There is of course also religious conflicts, between shia and sunni, between the wahabis and everyone else, between smaller sects and also sometimes involving christians that again have little or nothing to do with the jews.
Where I come from, which is Pakistan, there is much concern over the situation in Kashmir. As I expressed before, Shawn, I sypathize with you because I also woke up from a nightmare of lies. Like the young person who posted above I also once believed with all my heart how all hindus were evil idol worshippers, how they had stolen our land, etc. Sound familiar?
When my eyes were opened later, and after much research and travel, I found that the reality of the situation in Kashmir is that in fact Pakistan (or their proxies) had conducted an ethnic cleansing of Hindus much worse than any attempted by Israel, and had stolen land many times the size of both Israel and Palestine combined.
I tell you this, not to confront you with the “evils” of islam, nor to make a case that there are worse people than the jews (or governments worse than that of Israel), but to demonstrate that there are indeed places where the vast writhing tendrils of the zionist conspirators do not reach.
Okay, that’s a bit of sarcasm. But that’s better than an actual conk on the head with a bat or worse; I’m trying to shake you up a bit, get you thinking, appeal once more to your reason.
I agree with almost every thing you have said about america. Their influence and interference everywhere does vastly more harm and damage every single day than all of the “terrorists” have done throughout perhaps all of human history. And not just in the gruesome toll of death and misery, but in all the terrible degradation of our environment, our very planet, that may, one day, sooner rather than later, lead to our complete extinction.
But….
I am sorry, Shawn, but I don’t think this has much to do with jews.
I think you have adopted, inherited, a prejudice that you get from those people and sources who have helped you in your islamic aspirations, and that in so doing you have become less critical and more gullible in accepting information from such sourses.
You can look up your own statistics if you want, but it is a fact the jews, as a group, have consintently demonstrated to be among those with the highest proportions voting against regressive agendas. For instance, in the last two election, even with american support of israel at an all time high, roughly 90% of jewish voters voted against bush.
And the late Paul Wellstone, a jewish senator, despite his flaws, was one of the very, very few who voted against both Iraq wars.
I know I am not going to change your mind, Shawn, nor that of anyone else.
But I would like to appeal again to your reason from a different perspective.
I once was prejudiced against hindus. I found out that this was wrong.
You were once prejucided against arabs. You found out this was wrong.
We also observe many such “wrongful” prejudices thoughout the world, against blacks, against chinese, against whomever.
Do we really have to “prove” each one deficient, to answer the ideology of each branch of racism point by point?
Shouldn’t we by now have realized that each of these ideologies are not only “factully” incorrect but also completely ignoble in principle?
Or do you really believe that of all the countless prejudices and racisms that humans have inflicted upon other humans, there could still be one (that against the jews) which might be valid, when all the rest are not?
August 6th, 2006 at 5:53 pm
Hafeez,
First of all I have not been swayed in any way. I don’t know a single Muslim personally. The journey I am on is one of my own and mine to take alone for now. So if I am being steered in the wrong direction it would be from the Quran. Are you helping to steer me in the right direction.
As far as the Jewish vote, you’re arguing with the wrong person here. Bush captured 19% of the Jewish vote in his first run for President and 24% in 2004. But American Jews aren’t stupid now Hafeez.
The President is a figure head in America. You know a puppet! Do you really believe he has the right to do as he pleases? The Jewish vote and contributions come in on the Senate and Congressional level. This is where American policies are made and who decides will get the big military funding and how involved America will be.
Surely you were smarter than that to come at me with some junk like that. ALL of the motion picture industry and 90% of Hollywood is owned by the Jewish community. Mel Gibson - He will now go into Hollywood hell and disappear for his remarks about Jews.
Fox News has been running commercials about funding the starving kids of Israel ONLY SINCE THE START OF THIS CONFLICT.. Every news outlet in America refers to Hezbollah as a terrorist organization equal to Al Qaida. Why is that Hafeez?
Even the Jews in all their infinite wisdom know that in today’s world you have to win the war of words as well as on the battle field. Israel invests heavily into this theory.
Am I prejudice because I believe in facts? Have I ever made a crude or inflammatory remark about the Jews? Is it prejudice to call this genocide? Please with all your infinite wisdom sir, please help me see the light so I may be so blessed as you!
August 6th, 2006 at 6:44 pm
What difference does it make that 90% of the Jews didn’t VOTE FOR BUSH (LAUGHTER)??? Most of them are Democrats - SO???
They own HUGE CORPORATE BUSINESSES almost everywhere in the USA and outside of the USA. The Jewish Lobby runs the American government. They give millions and billions for campaigns. They bribe people. Sometimes they use strong-arm tactics. Bush like most presidents before him is just a PAWN.
The Jewish Lobby is a formidable power in the USA. They run the government and they influence all decisions concerning isreal and anything else which may indirectly or directly serve their purposes.
THEY WANT A MONOPOLY OVER ARAB LAND.
Your are pulling our ears with this “peace”, “brotherhood”, “racism”, “KKK” nonsense. Where does all this junk come from???
IT DOESN’T WASH! Stop trying to change good people’s minds, zionist. We are not stupid.
THERE ARE MASSACRES GOING ON IN LEBANON EVERYDAY. MORE HOMES, ROADS, BRIDGES, SCHOOLS, BUILDINGS BEING DESTROYED EVERDAY. MORE CHILDREN ARE DYING.
Isreal is the most racist country in the world. Learn WORLD what isreal does to Palestinian children. The demonic dictatorship that isreal reaps upon the Palestinian people is mind-boggling!!!
isreal government and the jewish lobby are the biggest liars, the biggest manipulators, the biggest decievers.
Look how North America shows support for isreal yet hundreds more lives have been lost in LEBANON compared to isreal.
WORLD …Look at how the USA media makes Lebanon the aggressor and the terrorist nation but LEBANON CANT EVEN DEFEND HERSELF. Who is the real aggressor/Terrorist here.
Shake your heads. It’s not that hard to figure out.
August 6th, 2006 at 6:50 pm
GOODNESS SHAWN!
WELL SAID!!! I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER! THANK YOU!!!
August 6th, 2006 at 7:56 pm
I am in the middle of compiling a reply to the Terroist Zionist Supporters … but until I finish gathering my information read this
Last update - 10:44 25/07/2006
Morality is not on our side
By Ze’ev Maoz
There’s practically a holy consensus right now that the war in the North is a just war and that morality is on our side. The bitter truth must be said: this holy consensus is based on short-range selective memory, an introverted worldview, and double standards.
This war is not a just war. Israel is using excessive force without distinguishing between civilian population and enemy, whose sole purpose is extortion. That is not to say that morality and justice are on Hezbollah’s side. Most certainly not. But the fact that Hezbollah “started it” when it kidnapped soldiers from across an international border does not even begin to tilt the scales of justice toward our side.
Let’s start with a few facts. We invaded a sovereign state, and occupied its capital in 1982. In the process of this occupation, we dropped several tons of bombs from the air, ground and sea, while wounding and killing thousands of civilians. Approximately 14,000 civilians were killed between June and September of 1982, according to a conservative estimate. The majority of these civilians had nothing to do with the PLO, which provided the official pretext for the war.
In Operations Accountability and Grapes of Wrath, we caused the mass flight of about 500,000 refugees from southern Lebanon on each occasion. There are no exact data on the number of casualties in these operations, but one can recall that in Operation Grapes of Wrath, we bombed a shelter in the village of Kafr Kana which killed 103 civilians. The bombing may have been accidental, but that did not make the operation any more moral.
On July 28, 1989, we kidnapped Sheikh Obeid, and on May 12, 1994, we kidnapped Mustafa Dirani, who had captured Ron Arad. Israel held these two people and another 20-odd Lebanese detainees without trial, as “negotiating chips.” That which is permissible to us is, of course, forbidden to Hezbollah.
Hezbollah crossed a border that is recognized by the international community. That is true. What we are forgetting is that ever since our withdrawal from Lebanon, the Israel Air Force has conducted photo-surveillance sorties on a daily basis in Lebanese airspace. While these flights caused no casualties, border violations are border violations. Here too, morality is not on our side.
So much for the history of morality. Now, let’s consider current affairs. What exactly is the difference between launching Katyushas into civilian population centers in Israel and the Israel Air Force bombing population centers in south Beirut, Tyre, Sidon and Tripoli? The IDF has fired thousands of shells into south Lebanon villages, alleging that Hezbollah men are concealed among the civilian population. Approximately 25 Israeli civilians have been killed as a result of Katyusha missiles to date. The number of dead in Lebanon, the vast majority comprised of civilians who have nothing to do with Hezbollah, is more than 300.
Worse yet, bombing infrastructure targets such as power stations, bridges and other civil facilities turns the entire Lebanese civilian population into a victim and hostage, even if we are not physically harming civilians. The use of bombings to achieve a diplomatic goal - namely, coercing the Lebanese government into implementing UN Security Council Resolution 1559 - is an attempt at political blackmail, and no less than the kidnapping of IDF soldiers by Hezbollah is the aim of bringing about a prisoner exchange.
There is a propaganda aspect to this war, and it involves a competition as to who is more miserable. Each side tries to persuade the world that it is more miserable. As in every propaganda campaign, the use of information is selective, distorted and self-righteous. If we want to base our information (or shall we call it propaganda?) policy on the assumption that the international environment is going to buy the dubious merchandise that we are selling, be it out of ignorance or hypocrisy, then fine. But in terms of our own national soul searching, we owe ourselves to confront the bitter truth - maybe we will win this conflict on the military field, maybe we will make some diplomatic gains, but on the moral plane, we have no advantage, and we have no special status.
The writer is a professor of political science at Tel Aviv university.
August 6th, 2006 at 8:07 pm
Hafeez and Quasimondo,
Please don’t be mistaken, I am not and don’t claim to be a Middle Eastern historian or professor. But I know for a fact I know more about the Middle East than the average American. I also don’t know the pain and suffering of war or what it’s like to go through oppression.
But don’t be mistaken. I’m not a lost soul, a fool, a peace activist or even angry person. I do however know right from wrong and good and evil. Israel is destroying an entire country and its people. They are destroying a beautiful country and its infrastructure. Homes, schools, churches, hospitals, theaters, art galleries, banks, stores, roads, farms and beautiful people. How can you come on here and attempt to even come close to justifying this? If Israel left right now…right now, it will take them ten years to put their country back together and a lifetime to put themselves together.
The thing that puzzles me the most about you two is that you don’t understand their anger and need to want to lash out. I’m oceans away and I’m angry. The facts of Israel’s brutality are there. There’s no hiding it. I believe if this was my fight I would be screaming mad.
Oh and Hafeez - Hezbollah means “Party of God”. I don’t mean to correct you but just like CNN calling them a terrorist organization, those errors drive me crazy.
August 6th, 2006 at 8:31 pm
To Shawn, Karen, RK7, Goddess Diana Proctector of Children, Palestine and all who have seen and Understand the TRUTH
I thank you from the bottom of my heart for support and heartfelt concerns about the Carnage that the TERRORIST STATE OF ISRAEL is bringing down on the INNOCENT OF PALESTINE & LEBANON.
There is so much to answer to here that I would have to spend my entire day at my keyboard to get through them all.
But contrary to what Hafeezbeteezelisraeliya seems to think I AM LEBANESE, I was born in the northern Village of Bann, the closest town to my small village is Ehden and I have visited my beloved country, after been brought to Australia in 1964 and raised and educated in Australian schools. I am not Muslim, I was born and Christened into the Maronite Church which is a Christian Church. I have renounced my religion and all organised religions as being misguided and very self serving.
This does not prevent me from being OUTRAGED at the Slaughter of Innocents that has been the Israeli Governments calling card to all that oppose it existance. I have at hand some very TRUTHFUL information, that can be researched by whatever means you care to take to research it. I just need to know how to send these links to this site …… As I am quite computer newby …. I have not yet mastered this.
If you read and watch what I will send and you do take the trouble to research it ………………. YOU WILL ALL SEE THE TRUTH IN WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING (if somewhat over zealously at times)
To repeat Hafeezbeteezelisraeliya’s words (edited slightly by myself)
If you have one truth, a very important truth, amongst a hundred lies, that truth is THE ONLY truth, and IS important.
But who will then believe that truth? AMONGST THOSE WHO HAVE GROWN ACCUSTOMED TO THE LIES ……………..
And ALL, THAT ARE willing, WILL be able to find it?
FOR THIS IS THE BASIS OF TRUE FAITH IN HUMANITY
PEACE TO THOSE WHO TRUELY SEEK IT
August 6th, 2006 at 8:48 pm
If you have time this is a good little movie to watch.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1259454859593416473&q=palestine
August 6th, 2006 at 9:15 pm
to Shawn,
Please excuse my misquote not Hafezzbeteezelisraeliya’s he was answering to my post. I was the one that said that they were Gods Work.
But Gods work or Party of God,YES HAFEEZBITEEZELISRAELIYA, they have allowed the WORLD to see the TRUE EVIL FACE OF THIS NATION THAT CRIES FOR PEACE YET ONLY EVER BRINGS DESTRUCTION.
While you sit here and argue ISRAELS RIGHTS, they are systematically destroying what is left of SOUTH LEBANON (LOOK WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO THE PALESTINIANS) LOOK WITH YOUR EYES AND YOUR HEART AND YOUR COMPASSION ………………..
THE ACTIONS OF ISRAEL SPEAK LOUDER THAN THEIR LYING TONGUES. I WILL NEVER BACK DOWN FROM NAMEING AND SHAMEING THEM (something you took great offence to earlier)
Have I once said destroy the jews, Have I once said the jews have no rights, Have I once said anything that can remotely be considered as advocating violence against anybody.
Al that I have been saying and will continue to REPEAT, because some idiots just dont get it ……… IS THAT ISRAEL AS A STATE IS EVIL, ISRAEL AS STATE WANTS TO WIPE OUT THE PALESTINIANS AND NOW THE LEBANESE (WHO AGAIN …. have no war with Israel)
If these are considered antisemetic and racial points of view …… then I will accept your words for the need to UNDERSTAND the TRUTH ABOUT ISRAEL, for I would rather be tagged the HATER you claim I am than to stand by anything that ISRAEL and their PUPPETS THE US would have us believe about their RIGHTOUS CAUSE to rid the world of TERRORIST. TERRORIST THAT THEY CONTINUE TO RECRUIT WITH THEIR OWN FORM OF RIGHTOUS TERRORISM
I want peace for the MIddle East (and the world at large), but this will never happen as long as the DOGS OF WAR (Israel & the US) have the world believing that Israel as a STATE has a right to exist on the LAND THEY HAVE MURDERED FOR AND STOLEN FROM PALESTINIANS OVER DECADES ………………….
FOR THIS IS THE PLAIN AND EXACT TRUTH OF WHAT ISRAEL IS ALL ABOUT
OPEN YOUR EYES YOU DUMBASSES and let them show you what your COLD HEART and your DESEASED BRAINS refuse to SEE
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
August 6th, 2006 at 10:49 pm
Amethyst,
First off, let me say that the article, by Ze’ev Maoz, is spot on, a very reasoned and forcefull criticism which I totally agree with.
By the way, this article was originally published in Haaretz, which many consider the most important and influential newspaper in Israel (I mention this because some of you may think that he may only represent a small “fringe” of Israeli society).
It is funny, or maybe ironic, that it is a Jewish Israeli who presents the strongest and most rational argument to support your cause (that of the Lebanese people).
You should be aware that his views represent a very significant segment of Jewish people, both in the U.S. and other western countries, as well as in Israel itself.
So why are we fighting here, why are we hurling insults at each other?
Because some of us think that you should stop there, that your case is made, no need for any “icing” on this “cake”.
If your arguments were all like the one above, then I think even those more pro-israeli, like dani, would have no cause for offence, even though they might disagree with some of your positions.
No, it is only when you seem to find it necessary to ruin these arguments with statements like jews control the world, they are worse than hitler, even chavez whom I admire so much calling this situation a holocaust; i am sorry, this “situation” is terrible, awful, horrendous, murderous, immoral, whatever other nasty adjectives you want to use, but it is not a holocaust. If the israelis were to kill 1 or 2 millions, then I would say, sure, go ahead, use that word, I’ll even join you.
No, I am so sorry, but this is all a load of racist crap.
Period.
And I sorry Amethyst, but it seems you went out of your way from the very beginining, with your taunts about the balfour declaration and the kol nidre, even stating that the jews brought their holocaust upon themselves, that they deserved it.
I am really sorry, Amethyst, no matter how much I sympathize and grieve for the Lebanese people and sympathize with you personally, I cannot, I cannot continue to stand in solidarity with you when you express such things, some of these things being the selfsame tools used by american white supremicists to indict, not only jews, but blacks and arabs (who they call sand niggers) and all those who are not of the white, christian “race”.
Yes, Shawn, I am aware that people need to vent their anger, their rage and that when some do this it just “comes out” in this manner.
And I might even find that acceptable for people who have a personal connection to this tragedy, like Amethyst.
Just like I would find it acceptable for an Israeli woman, who had just had her children blown up, to rant about how all arabs are terrorists.
Yes, it might be acceptable then, for awhile, but not forever.
As for the rest of us, like you, Shawn, or me, who are not personally connected to the situation, such racist bullshit is not acceptable, ever.
Not against jews, not against blacks, not against arabs or indians, not against anyone, never.
The rest of us, Shawn, while we also can feel very real anger and rage, we should and must stick to scripts like those of Ze’ev Maoz or Noam Chomsky.
We must always try to emulate those like Mahatma Gandhi or Nelson Mandela, instead of mimicing the likes of George Bush or Ariel Sharon.
When we behave like the latter, that is, ignorantly and unfeelingly, selfishly and arrogantly, then we only bring shame upon ourselves, only hurt for those we wish to help.
Damn me, condemn me for my feelings if you like.
I feel like such a fool, like Rodney King crying “why can’t we all get along”.
For I do feel, still, that most all of us here should be able to get along.
I came here thinking I would find like-minded people, comrades, brothers and sisters, perhaps, friends at least.
If a friend has an ugly and nasty habit, shouldn’t you tell him about it?
Should you just keep quiet, fearing that you might lose this friendship?
This racism that so many here express is indeed a very ugly, very nasty habit.
But I tell you this not as an enemy, but as a friend who is with you in everything but this.
I wish you all well, I really do.
I wish for you an end to this suffering.
I wish you peace and I wish you all happiness and joy.
Hafeez
August 6th, 2006 at 11:11 pm
Of the 11 million people killed during the Holocaust, six million were Polish citizens. Three million were Polish Jews and another three million were Polish Christians and Catholics. Most of the remaining mortal victims were from other countries including Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Ukraine, Russia, Holland, France and even Germany.
Why Did Hitler Cause 11 Million to Die?
First we need to examine Hitler’s egocentric and maniac ideology. Hitler, who was Chancellor of Germany during the Holocaust, came to power in 1933 when Germany was experiencing severe economic hardship. Hitler promised the Germans that he would bring them prosperity and that his military actions would restore Germany to a position of power in Europe.
Hitler had a vision of a Master Race of Aryans that would control Europe. He used very powerful propaganda techniques to convince not only the German people, but countless others, that if they eliminated the people who stood in their way and the degenerates and racially inferior, they - the great Germans would prosper.
Neighboring Poland - The First Target: “All Poles will disappear from the world…. It is essential that the great German people should consider it as its major task to destroy all Poles.” Heinrich Himmler
Israel learned a lot from Hitler’s PR. Have you ever seen a holocaust movie that protrayed a victim other then a Jewish one? If so I have not seen it and I’d love to know the name of it.
August 6th, 2006 at 11:41 pm
Thank you for the article, Amethyst. It is worth saving for my files.
Thank you for the video, Silan. The more information the better. I just finished watching it. Very unsettling in the least.
God Bless all of Lebanon and Palestine, and Iraq too.
And God Bless any people who are suffering such horrific unjustices that are being reaped on them.
I am turning going to sleep now and I will be praying.
Good bye for now.
August 6th, 2006 at 11:46 pm
to those of you that want to talk about kashmir and compare it to this…watch gandhi, it won eight academy awards and that should mean something. India was called HINDUstan before it was called anything else. A group suddenly decided it wanted its own country so we gave it to them after a fight. Now they have their own country and if you really want to know where that stands take a look at the list of Failed and Failing States…on foreignpolicy.com
August 7th, 2006 at 1:09 am
Shawn,
Please learn how to read better and maybe invest in a dictionary.
I will indulge you this once in your request but I have no desire to be your tutor.
First of all, thank you Amethyst for correcting the error in the attribution made of the translation of “hezbollah”.
It should have been obvious with even the most cursory of glances that I was quoting you.
But that is part of the problem here, that we are so quick to judge, without thought, without examination.
Now, onto your questions which I will try to help you with my all to limited “wisdom”.
Racism is the belief in an ideology (which often presents itself as a scientific theory or fact) that certain ethnic groups have any of a number of distinguishing features which make them, as a group, either inferior or superior to other ethnic groups. The features to are also, often, moral or ethical in nature.
Prejudice is the inability to properly judge information, especially when that information that information concerns one or more ethnic groups, but is also applied widely to groups that are national in nature, or even more limited or along different strata, such as class, or physical appearance, or the cliques one encounters in school. One might even talk about “prejudice” regarding certain types of food or many other things, but this lies outside the import of our discussion.
So, a few examples:
Someone who thinks blacks are, by nature, mentally inferior is a racist.
Someone who thinks arabs are, by nature, terrorists is a racist.
Note, though, that someone who thinks MUSLIMS are, as a group, terrorists is not properly called a racist (since the group that contains all muslims has not ever been contrued as an ethnic group).
You can say, however, that this person expresses “prejudice” towards muslims because, when he would encounter a muslim person he would “judge” him differently, presupposing that it would be more likely that he be a terrorist than someone from another group.
Examples of racism towards jews:
Jews are hateful.
Jews are spiteful.
Jews are greedy.
Jews are liars.
Jews control the media.
Jews control the government.
Jews cause all the wars, all the suffering in the world.
Jews fabricated the holocaust.
Jews drink blood from murdered arab babies.
Jews control all the worlds finances.
I’m sure you guys would be happy to add to this list, but they are all the purest expressions, by definition, of what is meant by “racism”.
Here’s another example for you: If George Bush tell you that Iraq has wmds, how likely are you to believe him? Sure, there is the remote possibility that it might be true, but you will be very critical, you will multiple independant sources of confirmation.
But when some one tells you that jews control the media and government, that they have spread their webs of power almost everywhere, how critical are you of this information?
Have you done some comprehensive sociological, political and historical study and analysis to confirm or support these conclusions?
No, rather you have willingly (that is the important word here) accepted anecdotes and rumor, hearsay and innuendo, and been satisfied with that.
This is prejudice, accepting or rejecting information about one group with standards different from those you would use with others.
Be honest Shawn, you know this is true.
I do not know, if in you, this prejudice is influenced or informed by racism (or anti-semitism, if you will), that is not for me to judge. One sign would be if you rejected information from jewish sources because you believed that jews naturally lie all the time.
Genocide is also a term simple to define; it is the eradication or annihilation of an entire ethnic group. Sometimes this is expressed as “the systematic destruction” of such groups, so can also refer to the process as well as the end result.
This is same as other terms involving murder (cide) such as homo(man)cide, patra(father)cide, even deicide (which means to kill god).
The Holocaust was an “attempt” at genocide, about 50% successfull.
There have been other attempts, the armenians under the ottomans, the africans in present day darfur and other instances.
Probably the most horrendous attempted genocide of all time, almost completely successful, was the slaughteer of the native americans by the europeans, with hundreds of millions killed, less than one percent of their former number remaining.
You know, if anyone deserves to have the lands stolen from them returned, their invaders expelled, it is these people.
If this were to happen we would have a very different world, and a much better one.
Anyways, whatever Israel is doing now or in the past, no matter how terrible, cannot be properly called genocide.
If you claim that Israel is systematically trying to eradicate the palestinians, then they are doing a god-awful job of it, palestinian population having actually increased, i think, around 5 fold (that is, five times as much) since the creation of israel.
To answer your last question:
If your opionion of Israel (or of Jews) makes you too lazy to open a dictionary then that is prejudice.
And if you deliberately ignore the definitions, don’t even care what they might be, then that is racism.
Hope I have been of some help.
August 7th, 2006 at 2:06 am
Amethyst,
Such beauty and such ugliness, side by side!
This is not a judgement, nor even a criticism, but rather the “truth” of us all.
And here you present a beauty, a jewel which outshines all the rest, something that I have believed in so strongly which I now find you do as well, namely:
“I have renounced my religion and all organised religions as being misguided and very self serving.”
Amethyst, I also have renounced my religion (islam) and have come to the very same conclusions.
If others were to follow this course, it would be the solution to supplant all other solutions.
For what separates the palestinian from the jew? They are both the same people, the original semites.
And, in my case, what separates the indian and the pakistani?
We are both the same people, and have been so for thousands of years.
It is the terrible ideologies of religions which do this, which are at the root of so much pain and suffering in our world.
That is why I may have some prejudice (which I try to guard against) when I look at groups such hamas or hezbollah, or the many islamic separatist groups in my country.
They are all guided by religious ideologies, which causes me to be very suspicious of them (with, yes, their misguided and self-serving agendas).
It is about time for us all to renounce these things and to grow into a more universal and inclusive spirtuality.
Then israelis and palestinians can live in peace, together.
Then pakistanis and indians can live in peace, together.
And in so doing, they will stop being tinderboxes, ready to set the world ablaze, but rather shining examples for the world to follow.
August 7th, 2006 at 3:28 am
Hafeez
You deride Shawn for not reading your posts correctly and yet I seem to having the same problem with you time and time and time again.
I have never once said that all the JEWS are one in the same as their Hitlartarian Government. I have many times stated that their are jews that are living in Israel tha have every right to be there. The comaprison to Hitler and the WARMONGERS of Israel is not in the numbers they have murdered, but in their need for an Israeli state regardless of whose land it is that they kill for.
I have many articles by a varied Jewish people denouncing their MURDEROUS GOVERNMENT.
I dont judge any people by the race or religion (except those quasi jews and their supporters, because they truely are of the same mind set). SO you telling me that the Palestinians and Jews are the same makes no differnece to me. I AM NOT AGAINST ALL JEWS
I AM FIGHTING AND NAMEING AND SHAMEING THESE ISRAELIES AND THEIR WARMONGERING PET DOGS THE US GOVERNMENT
If you choose not to believe any of what I say, and I will admit some of it has been heated with hatred, because I am ANGRY and FRUSTRATED at the inability for the world to see these MURDERERS for what they are and stop them before one more life is taken. THE TRUTH WILL EVENTUALLY COME OUT FOR THE WORLD TO SEE …………. BUT HOW MANY MORE DEAD CHILDREN DO WE NEED TO PICK UP THE PEICES OF BEFORE THIS WILL HAPPEN IS ANYBODIES GUESS.
I havent been able to work out how to put the link in here yet BUT
GOOGLE ‘YOU TUBE’ then search for a video called “WHAT THE WORLD SHOULD KNOW” and then research your history books and your newspapers ……they give you all the reference material in the video.
I DO NOT WISH DEATH UPON ANYBODY ……… BUT THESE NEO NAZIS NEED TO BE STOPPED IMMEDIATELY
August 7th, 2006 at 3:34 am
hey brother u forgot to mention that my country is one among 9 nuclear powers of world despite having red card from america
n failed states…huh
has india seen its face? i know in india people r sold for few hundred of rupees
of course this makes a difference b/w india n Pakistan
we respect human values more than anything!
August 7th, 2006 at 3:40 am
SORRY THAT WAS MEANT TO BE “WHAT THE WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW”
August 7th, 2006 at 4:14 am
Noam Chomsky reveals facts like the abduction of the two Gaza civilians June 24, BEFORE the Israeli soldiers were captured. Learn the background that the mainstream media doesn’t report.
Help get the word out
tinyurl.com/lqxj3
August 7th, 2006 at 4:29 am
our defence is among the world’s bests
our people are loving n they will die for their country
i said behind the formation of Pakistan ….millions of muslims raised their voices
n they got their right
and we r happy to be here for what woud it be like if we had no Pakistan
then there would have been massacres on us like one in Gujrat n occupied Kashmir!
August 7th, 2006 at 5:14 am
A couple more videos to see on You Tube
Israeli Terrorism
The Death of Innocents-The Destruction of Lebanon
Israel Attacks-Lebanon Burns - This one is for you Quasimondo….. Read the words at the beginning and learn what your neutral point in this struggle means
To Lebanon with Love (More time to Bomb)
And lots more.
And yes for the supporters of the Israeli WARMONGERS there is plenty ther for you to salavate about as well
PEACE TO THOSE WHO TRUELY SEEK IT
August 7th, 2006 at 5:25 am
i dont want to go so far in history
nor i do i know what is actually behind that blood shed
but one thing which we all must know n consider now is the fact that jews r the worst terrorists they com bomb n go nobody is to stop them
the supporters of jews …they even do not know what israel might do to them on turn of theirs
i wish these all supporters get to see with their eyes what is truth what is not n of course what is hizbullah for…
LONG LIVE HIZBULLAH!
August 7th, 2006 at 5:38 am
Hafeez,
Man, that was really s#*tty! I felt like a child being scolded. I don’t need YOUR dictionary and you are really confused between prejudice and fact. To label me as pejudice is very funny. As you tell me to open a dictionary, I will tell you to read books that cotain facts reather than Harry Potter books filled with fantasy. Is this prejudice?
Two well-known Jewish writers, Seymour Lipset and Earl Raab, pointed out in their 1995 book, Jews and the New American Scene:
During the last three decades Jews [in the United States] have made up 50 percent of the top two hundred intellectuals … 20 percent of professors at the leading universities … 40 percent of partners in the leading law firms in New York and Washington … 59 percent of the directors, writers, and producers of the 50 top-grossing motion pictures from 1965 to 1982, and 58 percent of directors, writers, and producers in two or more primetime television series.
The influence of American Jewry in Washington, notes the Israeli daily Jerusalem Post, is “far disproportionate to the size of the community, Jewish leaders and U.S. official acknowledge. But so is the amount of money they contribute to [election] campaigns.” One member of the influential Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations “estimated Jews alone had contributed 50 percent of the funds for [President Bill] Clinton’s 1996 re-election campaign.” [6]
“It makes no sense at all to try to deny the reality of Jewish power and prominence in popular culture,” acknowledges Michael Medved, a well-known Jewish author and film critic. “Any list of the most influential production executives at each of the major movie studios will produce a heavy majority of recognizably Jewish names.”
Admiral Thomas Moorer, former Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, has spoken with blunt exasperation about the Jewish-Israeli hold on the United States:
I’ve never seen a President — I don’t care who he is — stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn’t writing anything down. If the American people understood what a grip those people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don’t have any idea what goes on.
While you may be well spoken and have some vast knowledge you are arguing with the wrong person on American politics and facts. While I don’t agree with the descions my leaders make, surely you don’t belive I did all that research on the Middle East without doing history on my own country.
August 7th, 2006 at 5:40 am
Would be nice to know how the material Amethyst and friends are peddling is supposed to help promote ending the fighting and the deaths and injuries of the innocents ON BOTH SIDES in the current conflict.
Promoting hatred and perpetuating urban myths does nothing but inflame tempers which in turn can only lead to more violence.
Or is this their agenda ???
August 7th, 2006 at 5:57 am
BRING BACK HITLER!!!
August 7th, 2006 at 6:09 am
Ah, the intelligentsia are back.
One thing, my friend, that Hitler taught the Jews was not to rely on anyone for protection, and I mean anyone !!!
Now go back to your Nuremberg Rally, I hear they’re looking for more brain-dead members who can’t think for themselves.
August 7th, 2006 at 6:16 am
Dani,
HAAAAAAA! Boy, if that isn’t the pot calling the kettle black. Your one to talk about inflaming tempers. By the way, I’m glad to see you ignored that 13 year old. I would hate to see what kind of infinite wisdom you would give to his impressionable mind.
All of you can remember this and hold me to it. When the smoke clears, I’ll bet anything Israel will once again occupy southern Lebanon.
August 7th, 2006 at 6:42 am
Only until an international force that has some teeth and the guts to do its job is installed to police and maintain a true demilitarized zone unlike UNIFIL which comprised of lots of 3 wise monkeys - you know, the ones that couldn’t see, couldn’t hear and couldn’t speak about what Hezbollah was doing over the past 6 years right under their noses.
August 7th, 2006 at 6:54 am
mesh ha2dar 2a2ool 7aga 3′er 7aram 7aram 7aram
August 7th, 2006 at 8:38 am
Both Goverments Israel and Hezbollah have the responsability for this horror and I do not understand why they are killing each other, for a piece of land, the most valuable that each contry have is its people and they are doing this for what? Land please why we have to drop bombs and launch missiles to each other why they can not speach of peace like Lenon said all we need is Love.
August 7th, 2006 at 8:40 am
Shawn,
If that is the “evidence” you have used, then it proves my case.
I will not dispute your figures (although some could be debated, such as that 50% figure regarding Clinton, but even here it would indicate an overwhelming anti-Bush slant, who is supposedly their puppet; doesn’t make sense to me if what you say were to be correct).
Medved talks about popular culture. You might as well condemn black people for having a “stranglehold” on sports and athletics.
Those numbers regarding professionals and academia have always been the tool used by right-wingers (like ann coulter) to prove some “left-wing” (and read jewish) bias that must be immediately adjusted for so that american society can be even more homogenously bushite and isolationist in its values.
Those lawyers you speak are the ones most often who defend those muslims accused of terrorism.
Those academics (e.g. Noam Chomsky) are the ones most likely to speak out against all the atrocieties and sins that the u.s. perpetrates, be it in israel or in latin america, in the middle east, southeast asia, or right here in the good old usa.
Even the Hollywood crowd, how often have they been lambasted for speaking out against the Bush agenda; your new hero Mel Gibson was one of the first to do so?
This is what I mean by prejudice, that you embrace Mel Gibson so readily for being against the jews, but forget so easily all the rest of his claptrap, his complete support of american interference and atrocities elsewhere.
Where is your “objective” criticism here?
The only “solid” figures you provide, Shawn, have to do with entertainment and intellectual cirlcles.
When we get to the nitty gritty, namely jewish influence on government policy, allegedly so all encompassing and completely dominating, the best you can come up with, after all the years you have spent in such exhaustive research, is the weak, nebulous and ambiguous word “disproportianate”.
How disproportiante, shawn? 2 - 1, 3 - 1. even the 10 - 1 you like so much?
Even so, it would still only be a fraction of the nearly “total” power you claim.
And by the way, “disproportionate” does not mean “undue”.
You might as well say that economists as opposed to musicians have a “disproportionate” influence over financial policy.
It is very easy to find anti-jewish voices in the u.s. Their testamony is of the anecdotal variety, hardly on the order of some conclusive proof, and again, the very fact that these anti-jewish voices are so prevalent seems to go against your claims of all-pervasive control.
And shawn, you must be aware that these right wing voices are contantly harping about the “liberal jewish media” bias against the Bushite cause, against all their “just” wars, against their shoving the “american” way down everyone’s throats.
Yes, sometimes these days, but not always, they only whisper the “jewish” part of their equation, but it there nonetheless, not very well hidden.
So, even much of your own “proof” speaks against your conclusions.
And I still don’t understand, Shawn. You acknowledge that jews have overwhelmingly voted against the bushites.
But why would they do so, if he is their “puppet”?
If all the rest are “puppets” too, then wouldn’t you expect some sort of more equal distribution?
I am completely confused by your reasoning, shawn.
But, let’s play an extreme form of devil’s advocate and suppose that everything you purport, all the nonsense, all the bullshit, is “true”.
Then, and only then, I might say that you are not “prejudiced”, because you would have some form of complete knowledge.
But you would still be a racist (I’m not allowed to call you an anti-semite, because that term has become non-PC in this forum, you all not understanding that anti-jew and anti-semite and racist are all one and the same), because you form this “knowledge” into racial (and thus racist) terms.
Like I said before, Shawn, to take up the racist banner, no matter what stripe, is a completely unworthy and ignoble task for any human being.
We shouldn’t be debating the artistic merits or the stregnth of the weave of such a flag, rather we should all be together in tearing and burning it down.
Yet you are stubbornly like the lunatic and fanatic ufo ” researcher”, Shawn. No matter what the evidence against you, you will always remain a “true believer”.
I am really glad that you opened your eyes to the lies of your government.
It is only too bad that you didn’t keep them open.
August 7th, 2006 at 10:12 am
Hafeez,
I see now you need a set of glasses. Those are not my figures, in fact the first excerpts were written in 1955. The author’s name is also listed and he is also Jewish. This is one, ONE example for you to look at. Google - Jewish influence in America. Thousands of books written by Jews and Americans speaking of the stranglehold the jews hold on the American economy and politics. You are in the same denial as the American people. Next you will argue with me that the American government has no interest in this conflict. Those articles were not meant to prove a point, there were meant to awaken you to the fact your seriously mistaken.
You must be thinking of someone else when you talk about Mel Gibson being my hero. I COULD CARE LESS about him or any of the Hollywood bozo’s. My life’s interest have nothing to do with Hollywoods interest. Once again passing on a tid bit of information so hopefully you will get the big picture.
But I see now your not interested in the big picture. You don’t care there is suffering in the world. Your interest is in finding the people who believe different than you to go after and change their views. My country is asleep at the wheel and it’s people are willing to sit in the passenger seat. I’M NOT!!!!! The only thing you have proved to me is you know nothing about American politics and how things work. You are just another CNN crony. Why don’t you do a search and find out who owns the 3 largest networks in America….both t.v. and radio before you spout off your ignorance’s.
I see that you really don’t even care about what is happening to your so called brother’s and sister’s or have you denounced them too? If you want to have an American political debate that’s fine. But not here, not now. Nobody say’s you have to agree with anyone here but if you want to disagree with people about their home turf you better buck up and get some facts if you want to keep your so called credibility.
August 7th, 2006 at 11:02 am
Today the world must truly wake up and see the reality. What is going on in Lebanon is EXACTLY what will happen to other countries in the future. Does this state of isreal look like a nation that wants peace and peace with its neighbors? HARDLY! How can any government claim to want “peace” when it sends its cowardly military to bomb innocent children and whole families?
irseal knows EXACTLY what it is doing. This government does not care about people. It wants power. The zionist movement does not even care about its captured soldiers and the one who died in haifa.
If they really cared and wanted peace they would have accepted a ceasefire weeks ago. isreal NEVER wanted a ceasefire and it has dictated well the the USA government that there will not be a ceasefore until they FINISH THE JOB.
That job is to KILL AND DESTROY.
isreal already has land that never belonged to them in the first place but they keep taking more.
For the sake of peace, isreal must give back Shebaa Farms and the Golan Heights. These lands do not belong to them.
For the sake of peace, isreal must give to the Palestinians a state with free borders for their economy to be sustained and grow which will give Palestinian people integrity and dignity which is their right as HUMAN BEINGS.
isreal must also give up their maps of the borders of Lebanon and Gaza for too many Lebanese and Palestinian people and children have been maimed and crippled or have died by the land minds isrealei soldiers have planted.
isreal must also release civilians (so called terrorists, they say) from their putrid filthy jails which isreal has imprisoned ILLEGALLY, recently as well as for twenty years or more.
Will isreal do this? NO. isreal does NOT WANT PEACE.
This government of isreal wants its neighbors to suffer, and to be obliterated.
YOU ONLY HAVE TO LOOK TO LEBANON. YOU ONLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE PICTURES WHICH ARE ONLY A VERY FEW.
THAT is what isreal wants. THIS is what isreal is. isreal was created for this.
WORLD…Take a good look and realize…
The existence of isreal is indeed a shame for the whole world.
The only blame for its reputation is isreal itself.
You only have to read the on going dribble of TWEEDLE DEE and TWEEDLE DUM just a few posts above to see the great brain washing that the zionist media has succeeded so well at accomplishing.
August 7th, 2006 at 11:05 am
One last thing Hafeez. You are a deceiver. You have pulled me way off point and are very confused as to why I come here and have stayed. Yesterday Karen, Amethyst and Silan had some great links to other sites and articles. This is why I stay to further educate myself because from those links I go to other links. I get the full picture…meaning all sides.
I am not here to argue American facts and this is an incredibly inappropriate place to do so. But I think that is your point, to throw others off of why they are really here. The last time I heard the words racism and prejudice as much as you speak them I was reading Malcolm X’s biography. In fact I think you use them more.
As far as where myself and others get facts from, I guess books don’t count. In fact I’ll bet if you got in an accident yesterday, you would dispute that as a fact today. To you books are not factual I guess. Well, where do you draw the line? I went back and read your ramblings with Karen and Amethyst before you started on me and I see you are that lost soul. You have no idea where you belong in life do you. You have denounced your brothers and sisters and don’t know where to go do you?
I don’t mind loosing an argument if I am proved wrong. American political science humbled me. But I also know where my feet are firmly on the ground and I know where my priorities are. I know how I feel about humanity and about the evils of humanity. I know what it looks like when one country is crushing another with no just cause. I know the evils of my own country and the evils of Israel. You are the one in denial friend.
August 7th, 2006 at 11:17 am
“Perpetuating urban myths.? Agendas?”
Why, I believe these are the games that YOU play, my little tweedle dee zionist.
Why doncha reach up to your forehead (you do have one don’t you?) and grab a hold of that zipper and pull all the way down…
so that we may see the true demon hiding in human skin. Oh I am so sorry….YOU ALREADY HAVE.
Meanwhile, Amethyst and friends are more than happy to tell the truth and facts. AS WE HAVE BEEN DOING ALL THIS TIME.
August 7th, 2006 at 11:21 am
Nothing is left to say now one action is left
Close UN and Disolve it.
Its a UN=OIAA “Organization of Israel America Affairs”
August 7th, 2006 at 1:34 pm
I am not from Lebanon or Palestine. But I am a human being. What I have seen is way too much to make me do something. I want to help by whatever I can. Who can help me in doing that…….
August 7th, 2006 at 2:02 pm
KOzzDvt
Peace be with you.
August 7th, 2006 at 4:39 pm
I see that Israelis learnt from Hitler a lot of. They This today’s Nazist
August 7th, 2006 at 5:05 pm
Lebaneeze ppl got what they deserved.They coudve prevent it by controllin their own country and not lettin Surian/Iranian terrorists use them as a shelter.I hope Lebanon will learn this lesson this time,they already missed 1 chance 6 years ago.
August 7th, 2006 at 5:32 pm
Colonel
YOU ARE A DUMBASS THAT HAS NO IDEA WHAT PLANET YOU ARE ON
DO US FAVOUR AND LOSK YOURSELF IN YOUR HOUSE AND JUST AIM YOUR HATRED AT YOUR MIRROR
NO HUMAN BEING DESERVES THIS YOU JACKASS EXCEPT MAYBE YOU
August 7th, 2006 at 6:06 pm
Senyoura is such an awesome and compassionate man! His speech at the Arab league today had to move anyone that saw it!!!!
August 7th, 2006 at 6:21 pm
The world entire is behind Lebanon. Lebanon will live. Israel should just move about 200 miles west.
August 7th, 2006 at 6:33 pm
DAANI? ON BOTH SIDES
aah dani u must have meant PALESTINE AND LEBANON by this
casualties in israel r upto 60 n Lebanon it is above thousand
no account for innocent palestinians
August 7th, 2006 at 6:37 pm
DAANI? ON BOTH SIDES
aah dani u must have meant PALESTINE AND LEBANON by this
casualties in israel r upto 60 n Lebanon it is above thousand
no account for innocent palestinians
huh
August 7th, 2006 at 6:41 pm
i can’t cry anymore.. i can’t see or even hear more.. They r above me.. I wish this time they’ll bomb my house too..
Coz I can’t take it anymore.. u all r talking but do u really knows how that feel..
Have u ever lost everything u care and love in just a sec or even see what is like to watch everything u love getting destroyed and killed in front of u while u’r just watching with no power or anything to help.. And for what? For what am losing it?
U even killed our feelings and humanity..
Empty is what I feel.. U don’t want feel that..
I have nothing more to say but:
Thank you.. And one bullet now will do…
August 7th, 2006 at 6:43 pm
DANI
YOU ASK HOW THIS INFORMATION IS SUPPOSED TO HELP BRING PEACE …….. LET ME TELL YOU THIS MY STUBBORN IGNORANT FRIEND. YOUR TERRORIST GOVERNMENT DOES NOT DESIRE PEACE AND IF THE UN AND THE WORLDS GREAT NATION CANNOT AND WILL NOT ASK FOR PEACE. DO YOU THINK THAT IF I SENT A NICE LETTER TO THAT HITLARTERIAN DUMBASS YOU CALL PM ……… ASKING THAT HE DISIST FROM MURDERING ANYMORE OF MY PEOPLE NOT TO MENTION HIS OWN, THAT HE WOULD LISTEN …….. UM I DONT THINK SO!!!!!!!
THE URBAN MYTHS YOU TALK ABOUT ARE YOUR BELIEFS THAT YOUR ISRAEL AND ITS PUPPET THE US IS INNOCENT AND IT HAS A RIGHT TO CARRY ON WITH THIS CARNAGE WITH NO ONE SAYING A WORD AGAINST IT
SO WHAT KAREN, SHAWN, RK7, SILAN HAKIM AND THE OTHER FRIENDS OF HUMANITY ARE DOING ……. IS WE ARE BEING SURE THAT THE TRUTH ABOUT YOUR TERRORIST STATES LEADERS AND CONTROLLERS IS EXPOSED SO THAT MAYBE, JUST MAYBE THEY WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED TO THIS AGAIN TO ANY PEOPLE
AND HAFEEZ ……. IF INDEED MOST OF THE JEWS IN AMERICA VOTED AGAINST THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND I CANT IMAGINE WHY ANYONE WITH EVEN HALF A PEA SIZED BRAIN WOULD VOTE FOR THAT COURT JESTER ……… THEN THAT ONLY BRINGS HOME ONE TRUE FACT AND THAT IS THAT GEORGY PORGY STOLE THE ELECTION FOR A SECOND TIME WITH THE HELP OF HIS NEO CON NAZIS WHO OWN AMERICA AND ITS GOVERNMENT. AND THE NEO CON NAZIS DONT GIVE A DAMN EVEN WHAT THEIR OWN PEOPLE WANT THEY ARE ONLY OUT TO FULFIL THEIR AGENDA OF TOTAL WORLD DOMINATION ……..(INSERT EVIL LAUGH) WAHAHAHAHAHAWAHAHAWHAHAWHAHWAHWHAHWAHWAHAHAH
August 7th, 2006 at 6:48 pm
dear amethyest
dont giv ur ear to what hafeez mohammad is sayin
he is just charged up with nationalistic motivations nothing else
kashmir issue is still under a dispute
n india nor shud Pak claim it a part of itself
this is clear to most of us that what we say n what we believe is not worth to be walked out for
of course because news r always biased
u cannot refer kashmir dispute to be a fault of Pakistan
n mr.hafeez i do know u r not a Pakistani i bet u r not
wonder how do i knw that
but i knw lad…i know u r not Pakistani but indian
when subcontinent yielded Pakistan n india
it was clear that areas of mass majority of muslims would be given to Pakistan
and in the place (Kashmir) where 85percent of muslim population was living
maharaja’s step of signing to india can not be justified at all
we were never the first to start a war
nor will we be
this is always india which invades us in darkness of night or challenges our nationalistic
sentiments this way!
August 7th, 2006 at 6:53 pm
DANI, HAFEEZ, QUAISMONDO
CAN HEAR SANDRAS SCREAMS, CAN YOU SEE HER TEARS, CAN YOU FEEL HER TERROR ……… BUT YOU DONT CARE.
AND DONT MAKE THIS ABOUT YOU DANI WITH YOUR …… WHAT ABOUT ISRAEL SPEEL ……………….. ISRAEL IS CAUSING NOT ONLY SANDRAS AND EVERY OTHER INNOCENT PERSON IN LEBANON AND PALESTINE THIS TERROR AND BUT ALSO THEIR OWN PEOPLE.
BUT IT IS CLEAR ISRAEL DOSENT CARE ABOUT PEOPLE IT CARES ABOUT POWER
CONTINUE TO DEFEND THE OPPRESSOR OF NATIONS FOR YOU ARE AS COLD HEARTED AS THOSE THAT PUSH THE BUTTON AND PULL THE TRIGGERS.
August 7th, 2006 at 6:57 pm
as far as kahmir is concerned i’d like to add
taht even kashmiris want Pakistan to be by its side
or they want to remain independent
they say they’d prefer dying to being called an indian
how come PAKISTAN is so bad n virulent
dont the kashmiris have eyes or are they morons?kids?
they know what is better for them
Pakistan has always said dispute of Kashmir will be settled by will of Kashmiris
but u greedy indians just die for land!
August 7th, 2006 at 7:04 pm
Even my frineds from Saudi Arabia say that the jews should be in an ash tray in Germany somewhere. LOL
August 7th, 2006 at 7:05 pm
Sandra,
This will pass and your beautiful country will come back 10 times stronger. Our prayers and hearts are with you from all over the world!
August 7th, 2006 at 7:05 pm
there is no use striking ur head at a stone the harder u hit the more it hurts
so it will be better if we let them go the way they want to
truth will prove itself
then these puppets would see
what wrong they have ben upto…
n Amethyest u were really brilliant u r always
c’mon lets pray for lebanon
why do we ask these beasts to ponder over something
their eyes r shut n wrapped
how’d they see
i wish one day God gives eyes to all ‘'’extremists'’ like them!
n he says he ‘d
August 7th, 2006 at 7:22 pm
Shawn,
It is you who are the liar and deceiver.
I have never denounced my brothers and sisters, only the vile ideology which has so oppressed them (which is islam as it is commonly practiced; how about the law, proclaimed as the word of god, not a letter to be changed, by vererable religious scholars, that a woman needs four witnesses to prove rape, and failure to do so condemns her as an adulturer?).
Part of what opened my eyes, shawn, was when this happened to a cousin of mine.
And you say I don’t care that that there is suffering in the world?
Well you can just fuck off, shawn, because that is the only reason I am here, the only reason why I continue to lower myself to your level to talk to you.
Can’t you get it through your thick skull that it is racist ideologies which cause most of this suffering?
For instance, the racist ideologies of those Israelis who somehow believe that some militarily strategic advantage or gain is worth the loss of so many lives.
Or the racist ideologies of those kind, christian folk who think blacks are inferior and lazy and violent and must be controlled and incarcerated by a police state, who long for the halcyon days of slavery.
Or how about the racist ideologies of those who think arabs and other muslims are savage and backward, always prone to acts of terrorism everywhere, only to be tolerated so that their resources (such as oil) can be stolen or exploited.
Where do you stand on these things, Shawn?
Come now, stop sitting on the fence.
Proponents of these racist ideologies will all say that they are justified.
They too will give you thousands of books for you to read, many even by apostate members of those self-same groups; they also will point to millions of web sites. All of this, they will say, is mountains of overwhelming evidence that no right-thinking sane person could deny.
So tell me, Shawn, how eager would you be to engage in “civilized” conversation or debate with any of these people?
But I tell you, if you were to face any of them, you would see only the mirror image of yourself.
Because you also are a proponent of a racist ideology.
You hold on to this racism more dearly than you would a lover.
No, Shawn, this is not a debate about american politics (which you, yourself, brought up to “justify” your “view”) but rather about the soul of humanity.
And nothing, nothing could be more appropriate, more timely, or more
important.
Until we all see each other as equals, not just in theory, but in our hearts, until then there will always be oppression, tragic suffering, death and destruction, all of the horrors that mankind inflicts upon itself.
And it is racism, by definition, which prevents us from doing this.
And so it is racism which must be fought against at all times and in all places and by all means necessary.
August 7th, 2006 at 7:24 pm
Sandra,
Be aware that there are people that do care and do cry and do scream with rage at your situation.
laytoo allah koon maaik wi yusmaalic soutic, wi sallah leh an sullilqorn wi n’shahilla be seiridqorn min ha shatoun le jarya ellaikum
NOTHING CAN EASE YOUR PAIN AT THIS TIME OR EVEN IN THE FUTURE FOR I AM AFRAID THIS TEROR IS TERROR THAT WILL NEVER GO AWAY FOR THOSE THAT HAVE LIVED AND SURVIVED THIS CARNAGE.
OUR LOVE AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO YOU AND ALL WHO NEED IT, BUT EVEN THAT IS OF LITTLE COMFORT
PEACE TO ALL THAT TRUELY SEEK IT
August 7th, 2006 at 7:40 pm
hira,
My country does not include borders between India and the islamic entity known as pakistan.
Your people were duped by the british, like they duped everywhere with their “divide and conquer”.
Well you got divided and now India prospers while you continue to wallow in misery.
But I still grieve all my family and friends, all those millions, forever lost, all those families torn apart in this obscenity.
And nice trick, get rid of all the hindus and now let the kashmiris decide for themselves.
National borders should never be set according to the bounds of religion.
This is an inult, and a fatal injury to any free society.
August 7th, 2006 at 7:48 pm
Amethyst,
Why do you think we are here if we don’t care?
Do you think, perhaps, that we are agents of the evil zionist entities, come to taunt you, come to increase your torment?
Come on now, amethyst, get real, even you must know how false this is.
August 7th, 2006 at 7:58 pm
Hey guys. Is this Josh fellow another one of your friends? Do you understand his “anger”, his “rage”? Are you LOLing right along with him?
Why is those like him so tolerable to you, while those of us who only suggest a LITTLE moderation and reason are not?
Josh said,
on August 7th, 2006 at 7:04 pm
Even my frineds from Saudi Arabia say that the jews should be in an ash tray in Germany somewhere. LOL
August 7th, 2006 at 8:15 pm
Hafeez
IF YOU REALY CARED ABOUT THESE PEOPLE, YOU WOULD DESIST FROM TRYING TO HUMANIZE THESE ZIONIST TERRORIST WHO DO NOT DESERVE TO BE CALLED HUMAN.
AND I HAVE CHOSEN TO NOT EVEN GIVE COMMENTS LIKE THOSE JOSH HAS STATED THE TIME OF DAY.
I HAVE EXPRESSED MY DISGUST BEFORE WITH SUCH TALK, BUT AGAIN IT IS YOU WHO CHOOSES TO IGNORE THOSE WORDS IN FAVOUR OF THOSE YOU CAN LABEL ME AS A RACIST WITH
I WILL NEVER EMBRACE THE ZIONIST STATE (did you get that …. state not Jews) AS HUMANS ……. BECAUSE NO HUMAN CAN CARRY OUT THE ATROCITIES AS IT DOES, AND BRINGS TO ITS OWN BELOVED PEOPLES DOORSTEP AND THEN CLAIM SELF DEFENCE AND RIGHT.
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET THAT????
THIS IS THE TRUTH OF IT WETHER YOU CHOOSE TO BELIEVE IT OR NOT. THIS EVIL NEEDS TO BE EXPOSED FOR WHAT IT TRUELY IS
August 7th, 2006 at 8:22 pm
WEIN EL MALAYEEN
EL CHA3B EL 3ARABI WEIN
EL DAM EL 3ARABI WEIN
EL GHADAB EL 3ARABI WEIN
WEIN WEIN WEIN WEIN
ALLAH MA3ANA A2WA W AKBAR MIN BANI SAHYOON
JEEL EL HAK W JEEL EL THAWRA
CHA3BI MA BI MOOT
August 7th, 2006 at 8:27 pm
Haffez,
I see your version of humanity.
hafeez mohammad said,
on August 7th, 2006 at 7:22 pm
Well you can just fuck off, shawn, because that is the only reason I am here, the only reason why I continue to lower myself to your level to talk to you.
I have finished with you and engaging you. You have shown your true colors and everything Amethyst has said about you has come to light.
The next time you criticize her you should think maybe she knows you better than you know youself. I have put you in the same file as Dani.
August 7th, 2006 at 8:41 pm
This is not the correct way of life………….
please stop the fighting save the kids they dont know anything, give them the life of enjoyment that they should have.
August 7th, 2006 at 8:51 pm
WOW, Look at that temper tantrum goin’ at Shawn.
Look half tease, I mean tweedle dum,
Are you expecting SYMPATHY for your past experiences???? TAKE IT ELSEWHERE!!!!!
We sure as hell do not need you spitting out stupid ideologies about people who misrepresent the faith! THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT ZIONISTS DO TO FURTHER THEIR GAINS FOR POWER. THIS IS JUST ONE OF THEIR TRUMP CARDS.
Stop taking away what is happening to LEBANON NOW!!! Your words are completely useless to Sandra and millions like her.
LOWER yourself to talk to Shawn? Are you Joking? What happened to all your patient, sappy, “we are all equal”, brotherhood, MUMBO JUMBO?
Why I thought you were our fine, fair, prophet spreading good will and benevolence?
Why doncha go to the West Bank and Gaza strip and work with the “good”, “decent” isreali soldiers who are spreading their GOOD WILL to the Palestinians??
Why doncha break bread with the jewish settlers in the West Bank? Maybe you can convince them to give a few bottles from their very abundant water supply to the Palestinian People WHO HARDLY HAVE ANY??
Shawn a liar and deceiver? You must have meant yourself, DIDN’T YOU?
You’re looking
for friends on this blog?? DOES IT END WITH YOU???
August 7th, 2006 at 9:26 pm
Amethyst - if you think what has happened so far is horrible, just watch what will happen if Hezbollah keep firing their rockets and try sending explosive laden drones into Israel.
You guys just don’t get it. Do you???? Get Hezbollah to stop firing rockets, get them out of southern Lebanon and disarm them and Israel will stop responding to the attacks. How much simpler can it be ?????
As I have said before, when this all ends and a cease fire is in place, an international force with real power and gumption will create and monitor a demilitarized zone in southern Lebanon - that is inevitable - so why is Hezbollah keeping on with the attacks and firing of rockets ????
If Hezbollah wants to keep up its attacks you can bet Israel will respond, and the response from Israel will be even harder and stronger than what it has been so far and more innocent lives will be lost as a consequence ON BOTH SIDES.
Criticise Israel all you want, that is your right, just as it is Israel’s right to defend itself and go after those firing the rockets.
If you guys were serious about peace you would be lobbying for Hezbollah to stop its attacks on Israel - this is not a game of PR and photos, this is a matter of life and death and the sooner some of you guys realise it you will also realise what needs to be done to stop the carnage ON BOTH SIDES !!!!
The problem is Hezbollah is interested in one thing - destroying Israel or failing that, causing Israel as much destruction as possible before a cease fire comes into effect and any deaths caused in achieving this goal ON BOTH SIDES are expendable from their point of view.
Do you really think Hezbollah gives two hoots about the ordinary Lebanese citizen in the street ???? Wake up, get a reality check !!!
August 7th, 2006 at 9:31 pm
i KNOW ITS PROBABLY ISNT THE TIME FOR JOKES BUT THIS IS KINDA MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD JOKE
Olmert was sitting in his office wondering how to invade Lebanon
when his telephone rang.
“Hallo, Mr. Olmert!” a heavily accented voice said. “This is Abul Abed,down at the tea house in Beirut! I am callin` to tell ya dat we are
officially declaring war on you, yes you!”
“Well” Olmert replied, “This is indeed important news! How big is your army?”
“Right now,” said Abul Abed, after a moments calculation “there is
myself, my cousin Mustafa, me next-door-neighbor Abou khaled, and the
whole team from the tea house. That makes eight!”
Olmert paused. “I must tell you Abul Abed, that I have one million
men in my army waiting to move on my command.”
“Holy jeez,” said Abul Abed. “I`ll have to call ya back!” Sure enough,
the next day, Abul Abed called again. “Mr. Olmert, the war is still on!
We have managed to acquire some infantry equipment!”
“And what equipment would that be Abul Abed?”, Olmert asked.
“Well sir, we have two Mercedes 180, and a truck.”
Olmert sighed. “I must tell you Abul Abed, that I have 16,000 tanks
and 14,000 armoured personnel carrie rs. Also I`ve increased my army to one and a half million since we last spoke.”
“Ya lateef”, said A Abul Abed, “I`ll be getting back to ya.”
Sure enough, Abul Abed rang again the next day. “Mr. Olmert , the war is
still on! We have managed to get ourselves airborne! We modified a
helicopter with a couple of shotguns in the cockpit, and four more
neighbors have joined us as well!”
Olmert was silent for a minute then cleared his throat. “I must tell you
Abul Abed that I have 10,000 bombers and 20,000 fighter planes. My
military complex is surrounded by laser-guided, surface-to-air missile
sites. And since we last spoke, I`ve increased my army to TWO MILLION!”
“Lah lah lah lah,” said Abul Abed, “I`ll have to call you back.”
Sure enough, Abul Abed called again the next day. “Mr. Olmert I am
sorry to have to tell you dat we have had to call off this war.”
“I`m sorry to hear that” said Olmert. “Why the sudden change of heart?”
“Well, sir,” said Abul Abed, “we`ve all sat ourselves down and had
a long chat, and come to realize that?s no way we can feed two
million prisoners.”
LEBANESE CONFIDENCE CANNOT BE SHAKEN!
August 7th, 2006 at 9:41 pm
You wish - but then hope springs eternal just as praying for peace and coexistence throughout the region as exemplified in Haifa where muslims, christians and jews have been living and coextisting in peace for years.
August 7th, 2006 at 10:01 pm
Dear Sandra,
No. I have never experienced the TERROR that you are living for almost a month now. I am so sickened, outraged, and in despair for what has happened to you, the people around you, and all of the people of Lebanon.
We watch the news here in Canada and the USA everyday. We all feel so hopeless. My family, friends.
Some of my relatives have talked about the horrible things that they have seen. They were lucky to escape to Syria and then to Jordan. There are still relatives that are in Lebanon. The ones who have made it back to USA and Canada have horrible memories and cannot sleep, also.
We are angry, we are so very angry for what we see and that we can do nothing about it.
You Sandra, and all the other GREAT LOVELY PEOPLE OF LEBANON are in our hearts and prayers all of the time everyday.
I know its no comfort to you at all…and that is why we hardly sleep at night. So many of us are beyond anger that we hardly speak sometimes. Still we watch the news and listen to the lies that allow this genocide to go on.
We in Canada, USA, and Great Britain are a lazy, uneducated people who have allowed the media to brain wash us. The media indulges us and we let it. And now we are witnessing the results of our stupidity and laziness.
Now we are learning. We are beginning to open our eyes. I know we are too late. I am so sorry.
WE WILL NEVER FORGET.
August 7th, 2006 at 10:06 pm
DANI DANI DANI
DUMBASS DANI SAID
Amethyst - if you think what has happened so far is horrible, just watch what will happen if Hezbollah keep firing their rockets and try sending explosive laden drones into Israel.
YET ANOTHER VILE THREAT ON TOP OF THE CARNAGE YOUR TERRORIST STATE HAS ALREADY ACHIEVED
You guys just don’t get it. Do you???? Get Hezbollah to stop firing rockets, get them out of southern Lebanon and disarm them and Israel will stop responding to the attacks. How much simpler can it be ?????
YOU REALY ARE A DUMBASS ARENT YOU!!!!!! IT IS YOUR BELOVED ISRAEL THAT IS THE PROBLEM HERE NOT HEZBALLAH …….. THEY HAVE OFFERED REPEATIDLY TO STOP THEIR ROCKETS IF ISRAEL WOULD STOP DESTROYING LEBANON. ISRAEL IS NOT NOW OR EVER IN THE PAST RESPONDED BUT RATHER INITIATED ATTACKS. OPEN YOUR BLOODY EYES ………. HOW MUCH SIMPLER CAN IT BE???????
As I have said before, when this all ends and a cease fire is in place, an international force with real power and gumption will create and monitor a demilitarized zone in southern Lebanon - that is inevitable - so why is Hezbollah keeping on with the attacks and firing of rockets ????
UM MAYBE BECAUSE ISRAEL IS THE ONE INTENT ON DESTROYING LEBANON (Remember the Nation that Israel has NO WAR WITH, SHIT WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO A COUNTRY IF YOU DID GOTO WAR WITH IT). YOU BLIND NARROW BLOODY MINDED FOOL
If Hezbollah wants to keep up its attacks you can bet Israel will respond, (SOMETHING iSRAEL RELISHES TO DO IS ATTACK) and the response from Israel will be even harder and stronger than what it has been so far and more innocent lives will be lost as a consequence ON BOTH SIDES.
ANOTHER VILE PROMISE FROM THE COLD, BLIND AND BLACK HEARTED ZIONIST)
Criticise Israel all you want, that is your right, just as it is Israel’s right to defend itself and go after those firing the rockets.
I WILL CONTINUE TO NAME AND SHAME THIS ZIONIST TERRORIST STATE ……… IT IS MY RIGHT AS A DEFENDER OF THE TRUTH. ZIONIST ISRAEL HAS NO RIGHTS UNDER HUMANITY. BUT THEY SURE DO ENJOY A GOOD AND BLOODY MURDEROUS WAR WHEN IT SUITS THEM
If you guys were serious about peace you would be lobbying for Hezbollah to stop its attacks on Israel - this is not a game of PR and photos, this is a matter of life and death and the sooner some of you guys realise it you will also realise what needs to be done to stop the carnage ON BOTH SIDES !!!!
IF YOU ARE SERIOUS ABOUT PEACE WHY ARENT YOU LOBBYING YOUR ZIONIST GOVERNMENT TO DESIST FROM THESE ATROCITIES AND THEN TELL THEM TO GO TO HELL WHERE IT WILL BE THE ONLY PLACE IT WILL BE WELCOME. WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT LIFE, BUT YOUR ZIONIST NATION AND ITS SUPPORTERS ONLY WANT DEATH AND POWER. AND THEY PROVE IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN WITH THEIR BIG BOY BULLYING OF ALL THOSE THAT STAND IN THEIR WAY.
The problem is Hezbollah is interested in one thing - destroying Israel or failing that, causing Israel as much destruction as possible before a cease fire comes into effect and any deaths caused in achieving this goal ON BOTH SIDES are expendable from their point of view.
ISRAEL DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE …. FOR IT IS IN ITS MERE EXISTANCE DESTROYING THE MIDDLE EAST. THEY MAY BE A RAGGEDY BUNCH OF MEN WITH ARCHAIC WEAPONS …….. BUT THEY ARE STANDING UP TO THE MIGHT OF ISRAEL WITH ALL ITS MODERN WMD (THANKS TO THE OTHER ZIONIST US GOVERNMENT)
AND THATS WHATS PISSING OLMERT AND HIS CABINET OFF. ISRAEL IS BEING MADE TO LOOK LIKE THE BARBARIANS AND THE IDIOTS THAT THEY ARE. HOW MANY TIMES NOW HAS ISRAEL COME OUT TO SAY THAT THEY ARE CONTROLLING HEZBALLAH WITH THIS SHOW OF MIGHT AND POWER …… ONLY TO HAVE MORE ROCKETS FIRED ON THEM. THIS WAR HAS BEEN AND WILL ALWAYS BE IN ISRAELS HANDS
Do you really think Hezbollah gives two hoots about the ordinary Lebanese citizen in the street ???? Wake up, get a reality check !!!
#
FYI HEZBALLAH ARE THE ORDINARY LEBANESE CITIZEN IN THE STREET YOU MORON (MAYBE NOT EVERYBODIES PERSON IN THE STREET YET, BUT PRETTY MUCH STARTING TO BE) THANKS TO ISRAEL
STOP TRYING TO JUSTIFY THIS CARNAGE (AGAIN & AGAIN & AGAIN) YOU DONT NEED TO READ ANY OF THE LINKS IVE ADDED, YOU DONT HAVE TO BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT IVE RELATED TO.
YOU JUST HAVE TO OPEN YOUR BLOODY EYES YOU SIMPLISTIC MORON
August 7th, 2006 at 10:22 pm
You know what Shawn?
I am very glad you put me in the same “file” as Dani.
He and I may disagree strongly about many things, but it is also clear that if we were to sit down together, discuss things, argue vehemently, we would both come away with a better understanding.
I get frustrated with you for constantly misrepresenting my views and tell you to fuck off and all of sudden I have shown my “true colors”, whereas as when others spew their disgusting racist bullshit, you advise to cheer them on because they are being so “passionate”.
So, a little, common obscenity is worse to you than all that other vile crap, huh?
It is obvious who has really shown their true colors here, shawn, and you have also labelled yourself a coward for fear of engaging in any true discourse.
But I am glad you chose to run away because you have made me realize my biggest mistake here; that this place would be a haven for those of a progressive nature, appalled at injustices being perpetrated, and grieving with those who were suffering so much.
Instead, it is just the opposite, a den of racist bigots incapable of reason or any rational thought, who don a mask of sympathy for those who are actually in dispair.
Why else would most of you find it so important to punish and humiliate Israel and show the world how bad all the jews are; why else is this hatred so much more important than stopping the suffering of the Lebanese? I have tried to say so many times, in so many different ways that you should indulge your righteous anger and even hatred later, but first things first STOP DESTROYING LEBANON.
But you don’t seem to care.
Is punishing the jews worth even one more lebanese death, shawn?
Is it?
With friends like you, shawn, lebanon needs no other enemy.
August 7th, 2006 at 10:25 pm
We do not NEED, nor WANT, the great GOD Glorious isreal which has been murdering with great pleasure and great zeal all kinds of harmless, defenceless citizens, babies to old age, on the Southern border of Lebanon!
We do not need a murder-loving military in any part of Lebanon ever.
For we do not need more massacres, devious plots conjured up for more bloodshed.
We do not need a CANCER that has already plagued Palestinians for decades.
Lebanon has already had its gruesome experiences with the isreal military - and I put that ever so lightly.
Why would the cowardly, arrogant government of isreal DARE to expect Lebanon to allow its vile-murderous military to plant its grotesque self on Lebanon’s south border??
The terrorism that terrorist isreal plunged Lebanon into with glee and gladness is sickening in the least.
Iserali military/government - GET OUT OF LEBANON AND STAY OUT. We sure do not need your kind of “help” anymore.
August 7th, 2006 at 10:41 pm
Dani,
That is, of course, why they have been targeting Haifa so heavily. Such peaceful coexistence, and friendship, cannot be tolerated.
That is why, when the lives of the palestinians actually improved under israeli occupation (still absolutely wrong) that also had to change. They had to become miserable so that their cause would be more “just”.
That is why, every time there is hope for a negotiated settlement (the main terms of which have been known for a long time: return to 1967 borders, sharing of jerusalem, no right of return) these hopes have to be dashed.
But look, what have we here?
A Jew and a Muslim actually agreeing about something!
Miracle of miracles!
How soon do you think it will take for someone to try and stir up trouble between us?
August 7th, 2006 at 10:50 pm
WELCOME WORLD OUT THERE TO THE UGLY JOKES (AT LEBANON’S EXPENSE) OF TWEEDLE DEE AND TWEEDLE DUM.
“Punishing the jews”? WHO? Have all those bad dead babies been punishing the jews???
“Punishing the jews”? WHO? Look at all the dead and injured young and old in those pictures….Did they punish the jews???
They are living very well and good in isreal. Superior life compared to the Palestinians and Lebanon. My Lord, “punished jews” have Palestinians living in a gutter. But I digress.
“Punishing jews”? Where? WHO? They live EXTREMELY WELL IN THE USA AND CANADA, GREAT BRITAIN AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD. EXTREMELY WELL.
Why they have fantastic huge homes in California, NewYork etc etc. They live in spectacular mansions, plus they have a few extra homes in other parts of the world. They do well in Real Estate.
How are the jews being punished?? Who is punishing the jews????
They live well, they eat well, they have high powerd jobs in high executive offices - my goodness! Is this their punishment??
Who - is - punish - ing - the - jews???
Did you mean the million displaced refugee Lebanese people who have lost their homes and their loved ones?
Did you mean the thousand DEAD babies, children, teenagers, fathers, mothers, etc????
Did you mean the thousands of severly injured, maimed, and crippled Lebanese people???
Do you have anymore SICK TWISTED zion JOKES FOR US???
Did they punish the jews??
August 7th, 2006 at 11:04 pm
HAFEEZ SAID
Why else would most of you find it so important to punish and humiliate Israel and show the world how bad all the jews are; why else is this hatred so much more important than stopping the suffering of the Lebanese? I have tried to say so many times, in so many different ways that you should indulge your righteous anger and even hatred later, but first things first STOP DESTROYING LEBANON.
HOW CAN WE EVEN BEGIN TO PUNISH ISRAEL FOR THE ATROCITIES IT HAS BEEN CARRYING OUT SINCE IT CAME INTO EXISTANCE.
YES WE DO WISH TO HUMILIATE ISRAEL JUST AS IT HAS BEEN AND CONTINUES TO HUMILIATE ITS ARAB NEIGHBOURS.
NO ONE THATIS RATIONAL HAS DEMANDED THAT ALL JEWS ARE BAD …… QUITE THE CONTRARY (BUT ONCE AGAIN YOU DONT CHOOSE TO SEE THOSE WORDS)
IF I THOUGHT FOR ONE MINUTE THAT BY STOPPING THIS NAMEING AND SHAMEING EXERCISE IT WOULD BRING IMMEDIATE PEACE TO MY COUNTRY I WOULD HAVE DESISTED 27DAYS AGO
OH YOU OF GREAT WISDOM TELL US ALL HOW YOU INTEND TO STOP THIS DESTRUCTION ON LEBANON BY BEING A SUCK ASS TO THIS TERRORIST NATION THAT CONTINUES TO DO WHATEVER ITS MANIC LEADER DEEMS IS RIGHT AND SELF PRESERVING
THIS IS THE TIME FOR ANGER AND HATRED AIMED AT THESE ZIONIST TERRORISTS ……. THE TIME WHEN WE FIND OURSELVES SITTING IN OUR COMFORTABLE HOMES AND ARGUING THE POINT TO EXPOSE THESE MONSTERS FOR WHAT THEY TRUELY ARE. IN THE HOPE THAT THEY ARE NEVER PERMITTED TO DO THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
I BELIEVE THAT JUST AS YOU CHOOSE WHAT TO READ ON THIS PAGE ALSO GOES FOR WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO SEE AND HEAR IN THE REAL WORLD …….. HEZBALLAH HAS ASKED FOR A CEASEFIRE AND THEY WILL RECIPROCATE.
ISRAEL STARTED THIS BOMBARDMENT OF LEBANON AND ONLY ISRAEL ….. WHEN ITS HAS HAD ENOUGH BLOOD SPILT AND HAS LEFT NOTHING FOR THE LEBANESE TO REBUILD ON …… CAN STOP THIS MONTSTEROUS AGGRESSION ON AN INNOCENT PEOPLE.
BUT YOU CHOOSE NOT TO SEE THAT ……. YOU CHOOSE NOT HEAR WHAT IS BEING SAID BY ANY OTHER THAN THOSE WHO WISH TO DESTROY THEIR ARAB NEIGHBOURS ……. THEIR RIGHTS, THEIR PAIN, THEIR DEAD, THEIR RUINS ……… ALL OF WHICH CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO NO ONE ELSE BUT THEMSELVES
OPEN YOUR NOSTRILS WIDE ……. HAS THE STENCH OF THEIR HANDY WORK NOT YET REACHED YOUR NOSE. OPEN YOUR EARS AND HEAR THAT THE ORDINARY PEOPLE IN THE STREETS AROUND THE WORLD ARE TELLING THEM THAT THEY ARE USING DISPROPORTIONATE FORCE (SUCH AN UNDERSTATEMENT). OPEN YOUR EYES AND LOOK REALY REALY LOOK AT THE BODIES OF THE INNOCENT ON THIS PAGE WHOSE ONLY SIN WAS TO BE LEBANESE …….
AS I SAID TO DANI EARLIER DONT BELIEVE WHAT I SAY AND DONT WASTE YOUR TIME READING THE “HATE FILLED” (your words not mine) PROPAGANDA WE HAVE PROVIDED ON THIS SITE. OPEN YOUR OWN EARS EYES AND YOU CAN HEAR AND SEE IT ALL BEING REPLAYED LIVE AS YOU SIT AND JUDGE US FOR HATING THE CAUSE OF THESE ATTROCITIES ……
HITLER AND OLMERT ……………….. SAME SHIT DIFFERENT ASS
August 7th, 2006 at 11:19 pm
TERRORISM IN ALL ITS GRAND HORROR, COURTESY OF TERRORIST ISREAL:
Israel’s war strategy, backed by the US and European governments, is clear: destruction of Lebanon’s infrastructure and killing of a large number of civilians in hopes of turning the survivors against Hizbullah. General Dan Halutz, Israel’s military chief, declared that he would turn the clock in Lebanon back by 20 years unless Hizbullah were disarmed. This is the classic definition of terrorism. Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora has said that his country has been set back 50 years. The zionists’ murderous assault, however, has had completely the opposite effect to the one intended: Hizbullah has become even more popular than before because people have realised that it is the only force standing up to the zionist invaders.
Gafar Ganash
Aug. 3 2006
August 7th, 2006 at 11:25 pm
İsrail bu yanına kalmayacak!
August 8th, 2006 at 12:09 am
TERRORISM, TERRORIST isreal style:
My second cousin is in the army. Or was.
He was stationed in Tyre, to man a prehistoric anti-aircraft gun that could only intimidate migrating birds.
He heard Israeli choppers flying in to drop commandos in a civilian area.
We don’t know if he actually managed to get a round fired off or not.
Moments later he became a charred body in a destroyed vehicle.
In my heart, I know his death served no purpose.
He is fodder to the raging inferno of death and hate sweeping Lebanon, leaving ash and dust in its wake.
But when his toddler kids grow up, and ask me what happened in 2006, I will say he died a hero.
Would they understand the truth? Would they forgive us if they did?
Young girl from Lebanon
August 8th, 2006 at 12:14 am
Here is the wisdom which is not great but simple.
When faced with an overwhelmingly surperior and brutal military force, there is only one thing you can do.
Lay down your arms and surrender.
There is no humiliation if this, for what else can you do?
The immediate benefit is the cessation of the destruction and deaths.
And the fear of annexation by Israel will be lessened if you give them no excuse, no provocation, and they eventually will have to leave.
The alternative is to continue to support hezbolloh in its actions that they call a “defense” of Lebanon.
But, I ask you, what is it that they are defending?
What single atrocity have they prevented?
The reasons then seem to be rather those of retaliation, of vengence.
And they come at the cost of more death and misery.
Like I said, is this revenge and retaliation worth even one more life?
Do we need more images likes the ones above to condemn Israel?
I think there is much more than enough by now.
So, let the damned Israeli government have its “victory”.
What should we care?
And yes, Amethyst, I know that, personally, it is likely than none of us here can “cause” any difference.
But also we should be aware the what we do here, the arguments and battles we fight, are a reflection of what happens in the greater world.
How we treat each other here, either with openness or with fear, with callousness or with compassion, is a fairly good indication of the patterns we find elsewhere.
I have been as guilty as anyone in sometimes ignoring this.
August 8th, 2006 at 12:17 am
The US is mortgaging its future to support the criminal activities of a foreign power - why? Do you think all Americans are uninformed and/or unconcerned about America’s relationship with Israel?
You would if you watch US TV.
The reality: Millions of Americans are aware that US foreign policy has been hijacked by the Israeli War Party - and they cannot get their voices heard because of US media news censorship.
Lebanon is Crying
August 6, 2006
August 8th, 2006 at 12:35 am
Hello World out there. What we have is a zion piglet who says that Lebanon must surrender to isreal. zion piglet wants isreal to have ITS victory. zion piglet is playing its sick twisted game at our heartaches expense.
Yeah, you go little tweedle dum zion.
World “it” claims to know what the word “wisdom” means. “IT” toys with the words “compassion” and “peace” and “reflection.” Meanwhile, derisively laughing at us.
zion piglet wants us to take down those pictures of the DEAD AND INJURED LEBANESE CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES. “IT’ SAYS: “what good what it do for Lebanon.”
Tweedledum zion wants us to FORGIVE and FORGET the atrocious rape of LEBANON. THAT WE SHOULD GET OVER IT.
little half tease zion must enjoy his cheerleader sessions with with his dim-witted girlfriend, condolezza rice.
August 8th, 2006 at 1:07 am
Karen,
I don’t want you to take down your pictures.
I just want the death and destruction to stop. That way there will be no more pictures of more horrors.
You have all the evidence needed to condemn Israel.
This “surrender” I have suggested is to end all this death and destruction; it serves no purpose.
And any “victory” Israel achieves would be a morally pyrrhic one.
It is not a surrender of either dignity or honor, but a statement of how much you value life.
That is all you need for your purpose.
August 8th, 2006 at 2:02 am
Hafeez
AT least I understand your words in your last post as being for peace and compassion. For yes it would be easier to surrender and let Israel have its hollow and short lived victory ……………………
But do you HONESTLY BELIEVE ISRAEL WILL LET IT END THERE? DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT THIS ZIONIST TERRORIST STATE THAT FEEDS AND GROWS ON THE FLESH AND BLOOD OF INNOCENTS WILL DESIST IF HEZBALLAH DID THE BRAVEST THING AND SURRENDED. YES THAT WOULD BE THE NOBLE THING TO DO I FULLY AGREE, IF IT WOULD MEAN AN END TO THIS BLOODLUST. REGARDLESS OF WHAT ANY HERE OR ANYWHERE ELSE MAY CHOOSE TO BELIEVE ……. HEZBALLAH ARE FREEDOM FIGHTERS They came into existance because of Israels occupation of Lebanon, and although I realy do not like the term Freedom Fighters (because it is a contradiction). As I have stated many times and if not clearly then intentionaly that I deplore Violence of any kind. The one thing no one seems to know or care about is that Hezballah has been providing many charity services for the poor of Lebanon. They are not just a bunch of Terrorist whose main aim is to destroy Israel. But dont let that cloud your judgement of the Terrorist speel the Israelis like to hand out to anyone that stands against them.
I am afraid my friend that it is not and has never been Israels intent to stop the slaughter, they grow strong at the sight of these deaths …… they convince the world and themselves into thinking that they are going after Hezballah to destroy and disarm them …………. This carnage stopped being about Hezballah, and the two captured soldiers,( now what ever happened to them), even the Israelis seem to have forgotten about them in this mad bloodletting that has gripped them. Look how they are swallowing up the Palestinians and their land. The only way they will leave Lebanon now is to be forced out by foreign forces ……. But who given their current standing (or should I say sitting on their dumb tongues) of these foreign governments are going to stand in the way of what Israel demands and wants, Israel has convinced a lot of dumbasses that this is their right for self preservation.
If you continue with posts like your last one …… Im afraid that I even might end up liking you lol
But please do not stand in judgement of me for the HATE that I feel and will die with for these ZIONIST MURDERERS. I am not asking for anyone to pick up arms and destroy them. Im just trying to spread the TRUTH of who they are, the EVIL that resides in their hearts and in their blood in the hope that if (or that should be when) they decide to attack again, people may not be so understanding of their need for self protection.
So Karen I am asking you to be gentle with this misguided man for maybe he does mean well TRUELY, but his ideals of tolerance of these murderers, may just have been misappropriated.
I too confess that I have been overly heated in my arguments at times ….. but i tell you this one truth …….. How is it easy to even try to be understanding and tolerant of these dogs of war and allow them any of my compassion when they continue to prove that they are not worthy of any Human Being compassion and tolerance.
EVIL is EVIL Its too long been in their blood and in their hearts for any chance of salvation back to the Human Race.
IT IS MY RIGHT AS A COMPASSIONATE HUMAN BEING TO NOT ALLOW MYSELF TO THINK OF THIS WAR MACHINE AS BEING ANYTHING BUT EVIL IN ITS WORDS AND INTENTS
August 8th, 2006 at 2:35 am
My niece just sent me this and I thought that I would share …….
Unfortunately, True…
The rules of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS when it comes to the Israeli-Arab
conflict:
Rule # 1 : In the Middle East, it is always the Arabs that attack first,
and it’s always Israel who defends itself. This is called “retaliation”.
Rule # 2: The Arabs, whether Palestinians or Lebanese, are not allowed to
kill Israelis. This is called “terrorism”/
Rule # 3: Israel has the right to kill Arab civilians, this is called
“self-defense”, or these days “collateral damage”.
Rule # 4: When Israel kills too many civilians. The Western world calls for
restraint. This is called the “reaction of the international community”.
Rule # 5: Palestinians and Lebanese do not have the right to capture
Israeli military, not even a limited number, not even 1 or 2.
Rule # 6: Israel has the right to capture as many Palestinians as they want (Palestinians: around 10000 to date, 300 of which are children, Lebanese: 1000s to date, being held without trial). There is no limit; there is no need for proof of guilt or trial. All that is needed is the magic word: “terrorism”
Rule # 7: When you say “Hezbollah”, always be sure to add “supported by
Syria and Iran”
Rule # 8 : When you say “Israel”, never say “supported by the USA, the UK and other European countries”, for people (God forbid) might believe this is not an equal conflict
Rule # 9: When it comes to Israel, don’t mention the words “occupied
territories”, “UN resolutions”, “Geneva conventions”. This could distress
the audience of Fox.
Rule # 10: Israelis speak better English than Arabs. This is why we let
them speak out as much as possible, so that they can explain rules 1
through 9. This is called “neutral journalism”.
Rule # 11: If you don’t agree with these rules or if you favor the Arab
side over the Israeli side, you must be a very dangerous anti-Semite. You
may even have to make a public apology if you express your honest opinion (isn’t democracy wonderful?)
August 8th, 2006 at 2:43 am
Please go and teach Tolerance, Patience, and Understanding to the 10s of 1000s of Lebanese and Palestinians (from now and Israels history) who all have stories like the one Karen posted from “Young Girl from Lebanon”. And that would be just on the militia side of the conflict ………….. How many more 10s if not 100s of thousands innocent people who have died at the hands of these ZIONIST TERRORIST, whose families have the same stories.
NAZISM & ZIONISM ………… SAME SHIT DIFFERENT ASS
August 8th, 2006 at 2:49 am
HAFEEZ - unfortunately we are dealing here with some very sick minds, minds that are either blinded by hatred or minds that are too simple to face reality but rather rely on dogma and obvious false facts to try and build an argument.
I really am not interested in debating history but I do strongly believe that if we do not learn from the mistakes of the past we are bound to repeat the mistakes in the future.
And I do know that, when given the chance, Israel can be a very peaceful place to live and that all inhabitants in such times have benefited from that peace, be they muslim, christian or jew or any other group. These are undeniable facts and Haifa is a prime example as are numerous other places in Israel where jews and muslims, Israelis and Arabs live and work together.
Many years ago, I lived in Jerusalem just off the road to Bethlehem and I needed to get my apartment painted. There was a plethora of people we could have chosen from to do the painting but in the end we asked a muslim arab from east Jerusalem to do the job.
In the course of the few days it took him to paint the apartment we talked many times about how he found living in Jerusalem - this was in 1980. I will never forget what he had to say.
Apart from stating that his economic situation had improved greatly since 1967 with all the new suburbs being built giving him more work at a significanlty greater rate of pay than he previously received, his most telling comments regarded:
1) the standard of living for Arabs in Jerusalem had improved with better health facilities, medical centres, vaccinations for children etc.
2) his offering without hesitation the comment that most Arabs in Jerusalem privately would admit they were happier with the way things were now under Israeli rule but that very few would admit this publicly for fear of retribution - remember that these were the days when extreme arab groups would exact revenge on any arab and his/her family daring to say or do anything that could be construed as either supporting or accepting Israeli rule as a good thing.
Let me also add that in 1974 I worked as a volunteer on Kibbutz Rosh Hanikra on the northerr coast of Israel and on the border with Lebanon. Like many other volunteers, I worked primarily in the fields picking oranges and mandarins.
On one particular day, a group of us after work went down to the beach near the kibbutz to watch a magnificent sunset and to take photos. We returned to the kibbutz around 7.00pm. That night we were awoken by gunfire and soon found out that the kibbutz was under attack from a group of terrorists that had landed on the very same beach I had been on only a few hours earlier.
I am not going to into details about the attack but it is something I never would want to go through again.
Having said all this I still believe that there can be peace in the middle east with just a little bit of good will and with the elimination of extremist groups that will do anything and everything to undermine peaceful coexistence between Israelis and Arabs, between Jews and Muslims.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:27 am
DANI said
And I do know that, when given the chance, Israel can be a very peaceful place to live and that all inhabitants in such times have benefited from that peace, be they muslim, christian or jew or any other group. These are undeniable facts and Haifa is a prime example as are numerous other places in Israel where jews and muslims, Israelis and Arabs live and work together.
You use Haifa as an example of Jews, Arabs, Muslims and Jews all living and working peacefully together ………….. That this is a very honourable and just case for the Israelis to gloat about. Why then Dani were these places not provided with BOMB SHELTERS for the poorer of this city or the poor of any city or town you may care to mention, if it is Israels intent to protect ALL of its citizens
August 8th, 2006 at 3:32 am
just stop this all
we r the worst terrorists if we r not lets go to israel n america
no body is ever gonna call us a terrorist
we r terrorists our terror is everywhere
in ur minds Dani,hafeez n whosoer
this is our terror that makes them find fake pretexts to attack us
if they dare they r welcome to open battle say war
in bible n torah both predict a war between muslims n jews
why cant it take place now?
c’mon we will die islam will live
we have to work with this label?
well we dont care we really dont
but if this dog west shows n e courage n dares us for a war
but how these westerners unfortunately believe that they hav com to rock rule the world or something like living in this world forever
but no even they perish that is go to hell
where the high fire burns them
August 8th, 2006 at 3:41 am
Amethyst - you are nothing more than bigot, besotted with hatred that gains much joy in promoting racist ideas based on totally false facts and twisted half-truths.
As long as your kind exist there will never be peace - not just in the middle east, but elsewhere in the world.
In all your comments all you talk about is negativism and hatred - get a life and for once look for positives to work with - there are plenty in the middle east both in Israel and in Lebanon - promote these ideas and peace will come, promote hatred and destruction and war will follow.
Do you get it yet or are you just that plain stupid not to realise this.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:54 am
for u Dani
not only Amethyest but whole muslim world n ‘’people of understanding ‘'’
say this
we share the same thoughts as him
n the ugly truths of westerners
hurray-michael moore
August 8th, 2006 at 3:59 am
u may bad mouth us n abuse us
call us stupid
say we r terrorists
do we care?
August 8th, 2006 at 4:01 am
9/11 was not made by muslims, Everything is preplaned. Attacks on Iraq, Afghanistan were preplaned, Those were for muslims to fight christans…, Now Jews with muslims, so sad to see the innocent babies murders..
And who knows what they have planned for future… But they must remember One more Power full Personality……… Who made the world………..He would probably Destroy them…
August 8th, 2006 at 4:02 am
now stop this shit passing here
get lost from here n express ur views to israeli dogs
August 8th, 2006 at 4:06 am
Hey hirakhan_Pakistan - Woof, woof…..
August 8th, 2006 at 4:08 am
probably? he would surely destroy them
August 8th, 2006 at 4:09 am
It seems most you guys are happy to support Hezbollah and all that they stand for. Right ? Then accept the consequences of their actions including the deaths and injuries that come as a result of these actions and stop whinging about it coz you obviously don’t care or you would be promoting ways to stop the fighting instead of supporting and encouraging it.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:29 am
well they r not killed they r martyred in the name of God
wont u jews stop forsaking God everytime
to this i must say the same God u knew,believed n worshipped before us
Moses(peace be upon him) did he ever do this to innocent children
did he use to kill innocent people like this
he stood against evil that is pharoah
but today u av become the pharoah n we r moses for u
August 8th, 2006 at 4:39 am
hirakhan_Pakistan - so you are happy to see Hezbollah actions result in the deaths of hundreds of innocent people in the name of martyrdom, God and Islam.
Sick, so very, very sick when death in the name of God and martyrdom is valued more highly than life itself.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:52 am
Well what a whopping load of zion dung THAT was, tweedleDEE.
Allow me:
That first paragraph was just dripping with unadulterated fresh pure ARROGANCE.
“obvious false facts.” REALLY??
That isreal is breeding more hatred and terrorism among Lebanese and Palestinians? That is a FACT.
That on any given day three strong isreali soldiers strapped with their clubs, machine guns, heavy boots, and tear gas - can pick up a teenage palestinian boy and beat him slowly, torture him, and break his arms? That is a FACT.
That isreali soldiers plant land mines in land belonging to the Palestinians and Lebanese KNOWING they are going to maime, cripple, and murder people, farmers, and children? That is a FACT.
The so called “standard of living” that isreal has created for Arabs in Jerusalem is an OUT AND OUT LIE.
“extreme Arab groups?” Which ones? The ones you have shoved so deep into misery called the West Bank and Gaza? The ones you are murdering everyday in Lebanon with your fancy expensive bombs? The conniving and cunning way with which you devised a plan for the rape and murder of hundreds and hundreds of women and children at Shatilla and Sabra in 1982???
YOU created the Arab extremists, ONLY you.
What! You don’t want to debate history - We must learn from our mistakes or we will repeat these mistakes in the future? You’re talking about your HOLOCAUST aren’t you? YOU HAVEN’T LEARNED MUCH HAVE YOU??
Build an argument? I suggest YOU go back to your legos.
“when given the chance, Israel can be a very peaceful place to live and that all inhabitants in such times….” INHABITANTS? You mean PEOPLE …..DON’T YOU? That’s a bit COLD isn’t it?
My mind is FINE, you’re not changing it.
That last paragraph smacks of total CHARLES MANSON. You DO know who he is DON'’T you? He was a killer and he also brain washed people to do his killing for him.
I will be watching the news tomorrow and there will be more murdered people in Lebanon and the ONLY TERRORISTS that are shattering lives and dreams and PEACE (a word you toss around too casually for your own good) are the Weapons of Mass Destruction - Courtesy - of - isreal.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:58 am
WORLD! the zion piglet dandi is showing his true fangs .. I mean colors..no . I mean fangs! That’s right now, boy. You go on now. Back to the pound you go.
August 8th, 2006 at 5:02 am
Hey Karen - next you will be saying that Jews wrote the Koran. Get a life, a real and meanigful one.
August 8th, 2006 at 5:04 am
Karen - is that the best you can throw at me??? Come on, I know you can do better ???
August 8th, 2006 at 5:08 am
Whooooo! This is Scary fellas. “Accept the consequences.” dandi tweedledee is gonna go back to israeal and tell on us.
isreal, and zionists and death, oh my.
isreal, and zionists and death, oh my.
Has anyone ever see the Wizard of Oz?
August 8th, 2006 at 5:19 am
This is what I see and I find it most appropriate.
Little dandi is riding his tricycle in a hotel hallway. And suddenly some of the dead Lebanese children appear before dandi, their lifeless eyes staring at him, and they say:
“Would you like to come and play with us Dandi?”
Has anyone seen THE SHINING?
August 8th, 2006 at 5:35 am
The actions of the racist Israeli state and that of their supporters, which includes the BBC, illustrate their total disregard and contempt for Palestinian lives. Rabbi Moshe Levinger, the worst kind of Zionist extremist, founder of the settlements in Hebron, could be the spokesperson for Olmert, Bush, the BBC and our very own government and great leader Tony Blair when, in response to a question about the massacre of Palestinians carried out by one of his followers in Hebron 1994, he says he is “sorry not only about dead Arabs but also about dead flies”. It is nothing new that Israel prefers the word ‘operation’ to massacre as a poll carried out by Israeli TV showed following the massacre of Palestinians in 1994. The poll “established that at least 50% of Israeli Jews would approve of the massacre, provided that it was not referred to as a massacre but rather a ‘Patriach’s Cave Operation’”. In Hebron today there is a monument to the mass murderer ‘Saint Baruch Goldstein’. Whether carried out by a far right extremist settler or by the Israeli government, massacre of Palestinians seems to be acceptable through the eyes of the media and by the ‘British values’ our government wishes us all to adopt.
CNN Bureau Chief Simon Wilson
CNN Bureau Chief Thomas Fenton
August 8th, 2006 at 5:54 am
The Israeli Foreign Ministry urges the Israeli lobbyists around the world as well as its representatives to spread the message below. This war is all about our survival unlike all the other wars that were all about our survival. We must to stand up firmly and tell the world that:
*Our army is the most humanist army in the world.
*Our army always informs the helpless victims before we drop tonnes of bombs on their heads.
*Is there any other army in the world that spreads leaflets before it commits genocide?
*As if this isn’t enough, we always ‘deeply regret’ after we’ve committed atrocities.
*Didn’t we ‘sincerely apologise’ after smoking four UN peacekeepers?
*Unlike, the Hamas and the Hezbollah, we never kill indiscriminately. We always kill very discriminately. We kill Arabs whether they are Arab women, Arab elders, Arab children, Arab refugees, Arab disabled hiding in a Red Cross shelter in Kafar Quana. We are after Arabs and to speak about us as if we are bombing and killing indiscriminately is an utter anti-Semitic lie.
Gilad Atmoz
upon finding a STATE OF ISRAEL CLASSIFIED DOCUMENT.
August 8th, 2006 at 5:57 am
Time for your meds, Karen.
August 8th, 2006 at 6:03 am
Dani said,
on August 8th, 2006 at 3:41 am
“Amethyst - you are nothing more than bigot, besotted with hatred that gains much joy in promoting racist ideas based on totally false facts and twisted half-truths.
As long as your kind exist there will never be peace - not just in the middle east, but elsewhere in the world.”
Why Amethyst do you see and hear the talons and fangs coming out?
Amethyst…What do you suppose cold robot zion means by “your kind”? Is this more of ITS “inhabitant” talk??
isreal, and zionists, and death, oh my!
isreal, and zionists, and death, oh my!
isreal, and zionists, and death, oh my!
August 8th, 2006 at 6:14 am
hirakhan_Pakistan said,
on August 8th, 2006 at 4:29 am
“well they r not killed they r martyred in the name of God
wont u jews stop forsaking God everytime
to this i must say the same God u knew,believed n worshipped before us
Moses(peace be upon him) did he ever do this to innocent children
did he use to kill innocent people like this
he stood against evil that is pharoah
but today u av become the pharoah n we r moses for u ”
Well hirakhan_Pakistan makes an excellent valid point here.
Thank you hirakhan_Pakistan!
August 8th, 2006 at 6:25 am
DANI OLD MAN
Dani said,
on August 8th, 2006 at 3:41 am
Amethyst - you are nothing more than bigot, besotted with hatred that gains much joy in
As long as your kind exist there will never be peace - not just in the middle east, but elsewhere in the world.
In all your comments all you talk about is negativism and hatred - get a life and for once look for positives to work with - there are plenty in the middle east both in Israel and in Lebanon - promote these ideas and peace will come, promote hatred and destruction and war will follow
Do you get it yet or are you just that plain stupid not to realise this.
HOW DARE YOU CALL ME A BIGOT YOU SELF SERVING EGOTISTICAL OLD FOOL..
YOU ARE THE ONE BESOTTED WITH HATRED, HATRED SO DEEP THAT YOU DARE TO DISGUISE IT AS COMPASSION FOR THOSE YOU LOATH AND MAYBE YOU DO EVEN FOOL YOURSELF WITH THIS DELUSION THAT YOU CARE ………
YOU CLAIMED EARLIER THAT YOU DIDNT COME ON HERE TO DEBATE HISTORY YET THAT IS ALL YOU HAVE DONE WITH US HERE FROM THE START, REMINDING US TIME AND AGAIN OF ALL YOUR WONDERFULL HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE AND PERSONAL EXPERIENCES BRINGING UP ALL SORTS OF FIGURES AND FACTS (ALL IN YOUR FAVOUR OF COURSE) ….
I TOO HAVE DONE IT, BUT HAVE NOT CLAIMED OTHERWISE!!!
WHY IS IT THAT WHEN ** I **SAY SOMETHING IN RELATION TO MY HATRED FOR YOUR IDEALISTIC ZIONISM (NOT ALL JEWS YOU MORON) ……. I AM LABLED AS promoting racist ideas based on totally false facts and twisted half-truths.
Dani said,
on August 7th, 2006 at 5:40 am
Would be nice to know how the material Amethyst and friends are peddling is supposed to help (ING TO OPEN EYES AND MINDS AND HEARTS TO WHAT ZIONISM REALY STANDS FOR) promote ending the fighting and the deaths and injuries of the innocents ON BOTH SIDES in the current conflict. YOU MEAN THE FIGHTING AND DEATHS AND INJURIES OF THE INNOCENTS ON BOTH SIDE WHICH ARE 99.9% ISRAELS DOING on both sides in this current conflict.
Promoting hatred and perpetuating urban myths does nothing but inflame tempersONLY ZIONIST TEMPERS IT WOULD SEEM which in turn can only lead to more violence.COULD IT BE THAT YOU CANT FACE THE TRUTH BECAUSE YOU ARE THE ONE THAT THREATENS MORE VIOLENCE Or is this their agenda ??? NO DANI, ITS YOURS
BUT WHEN ** YOU ** THREATEN DEATH AND RETALIATION TO THOSE THAT DONT HEED YOUR WARNINGS TO LAY DOWN THEIR WEAPONS BEFORE THE RIGHTOUS ISRAEL …… YOU ARE PROMTING PEACE AND COMPASSION
Dani said,
on August 5th, 2006 at 3:57 pm
Hassan from Bint Jebeil - looks like the Israelis missed one, but don’t worry, they will be back for you
Dani said,
on August 7th, 2006 at 9:26 pm
Amethyst - if you think what has happened so far is horrible, just watch what will happen if Hezbollah keep firing their rockets and try sending explosive laden drones into Israel.
You guys just don’t get it. Do you???? Get Hezbollah to stop firing rockets, get them out of southern Lebanon and disarm them and Israel will stop responding to the attacks. How much simpler can it be ?????
As I have said before, when this all ends and a cease fire is in place, an international force with real power and gumption will create and monitor a demilitarized zone in southern Lebanon - that is inevitable - so why is Hezbollah keeping on with the attacks and firing of rockets ???
If Hezbollah wants to keep up its attacks you can bet Israel will respond, and the response from Israel will be even harder and stronger than what it has been so far and more innocent lives will be lost as a consequence ON BOTH SIDES.
Criticise Israel all you want, that is your right, just as it is Israel’s right to defend itself and go after those firing the rockets
WHY SUCH DOUBLE STANDARDS DANI?????
August 8th, 2006 at 6:37 am
Hezbollah should just lay down their arms and surrender.
What a load of bullshit. Yes, Hezbollah should lay down their arms and be good little Arabs. They should let Israel to continue to keep up their oppression and intimidation of all Arabs. In all honesty….What is the difference between Hezbollah and the early American settlers that fought off the British. All you peace mongers have your heads so far up your ass it’s hilarious.
Heres another question. There is no censership in America. You can see hear and read anything you want. It has always been that way and is part of the make up of America. So why is Al Manar censored? You can’t watch their channel or access any thing to do with them on the internet in any way what so ever. Hell, you can access Al Qaida web sites, why not Hezbollah? Because America does not want us to know the truth. They and the other zipper heads on here want you to believe they are a terrorist group.
Wake up!!!!! Israel is the true terrorist group. One day, one day the Arab world will stand up and say enough. Then what side will all you zipper heads be on. Did I say zipper heads, I’m sorry that’s racist, I mean prejudice….racist, prejudice. Oh screw it! Wake up zipper heads!
August 8th, 2006 at 6:53 am
Rant and rave all you like, the end result will be the same:
* the state of Israel will still be around whether you like it or not
* Hezbollah will be pushed out of/neutralised militarily in Southern Lebanon
* some sort of international military force, possibly with some Lebanese army component, will monitor and maintain a demilitarized zone on the Lebanese side of the border
* thousands of families ON BOTH SIDES will be mourning the dead and caring for injured
August 8th, 2006 at 7:15 am
Dani said,
Blah blah blah, I need a friend, blah, blah blah. I hope Israel kills all Arabs and rules the middle east.
Hafeez said,
Wha, wha, wha. Prejudice, racist, prejudice. Wha, wha, wha. Fuck you, meet me at the playground, I’ll kick your ass. Wha, wha, wha. I don’t care about my Arab brothers and sisters. Wha, wha, wha.
Yes Dani, at the end of this crisis everything will be ok in Lebanon. That’s because Israel will have destroyed all of Lebanon. Hezbollah will not be hurt in the least bit. Instead they will have stregthend their forces because of the hatred Israel is generating. They will come back harder and stronger. Israeli soldiers will return to Israel and continue working, playing, shopping, banking, eating, driving and just enjoying life. Meanwhile over 1.5 million Lebanese have nothing to return to. No homes, food, gas, stores, banks….NOTHING. Keep telling yourself they deserve this. All of you idiots, keep telling yourself the Lebonese deserve this and they shouldn’t be angry. Tell them to be good little Arabs and shut up.
You spineless idiots! No country deserves this! It is genocide and destruction in it’s ugliest form. One day Islam will rise up, it’s only a matter of time and Israel know it too!
August 8th, 2006 at 7:41 am
You are wasting your time to argue with blind “Dani”. He relates to a terrorist nation which does not feel any shame on their inhuman actions and cruelities.
He belongs to the terrorist nation which does not feel any shame in using tanks and missiles against unarmed Palestinians. They are following Hitler. Shame for Israil……Shame for DAni
August 8th, 2006 at 7:42 am
Shawn,
Any intelligent person can see you are not a rascist or a deceiver of fact, very far from it. They have made you angry because they have offended you unjustly, that is their style of humanitarianism
You are a very decent human being who uses his brains and heart for a good just cause. It is clear you understood basic human rights and dignity at a very early age.
It is unfortunate you have to try to teach this to those that feel they are educated and mature enough, but are not. It is unfortunate these people have to be responded to as if they are children, children arrogantly immersed in their own hatred .It is best to ignore them. Karen thank you and all others for links to more true unbiased factual information taken directly from the area. Amethyst, and all others, I wish you peace, and I hope one day at least an apology from Israel…but I doubt it….they have to many of these so called “scholars”
also to Goddess Diana Protector of Children Aug 6 11 42 am….thank you for helping those sincere in their sympathy and support….. people learn from your good wisdom and good heart also
August 8th, 2006 at 7:45 am
Israil has stated that it will attack on every running vehicle. What can be expected from a terrorist state except this type of statements.
August 8th, 2006 at 9:53 am
http://tylerkinch.com/?p=93
August 8th, 2006 at 10:14 am
KAREN said,
on August 8th, 2006 at 5:19 am
This is what I see and I find it most appropriate.
Little dandi is riding his tricycle in a hotel hallway. And suddenly some of the dead Lebanese children appear before dandi, their lifeless eyes staring at him, and they say:
“Would you like to come and play with us Dandi?”
Has anyone seen THE SHINING?
well perhaps this would be a just hell for the Israeli Government/Israeli military. now i see that Tyre is completely cut off from all aid. no food, medicine, water, nothing. the Israeli military bombed their last bridge/road to any outside help.
people are dying, very sick, hungry, thirsty, they have to face curfews, there are dead bodies on the streets and more bodies buried under rubble. it is all so wretched.
i don’t see any of the so called “terrorists” here. i see lies and manipulation to further cause suffering to Lebanese people who have already suffered and lost more than any human being can ever bear.
so this is your idea for peace, democracy?
i guess you could serve up some shit on a plate and call it chocolate ice cream. and we would be forced to eat it, right, peace loving Israel/Military/Government?
August 8th, 2006 at 10:15 am
Hello my people, Karen,Shawn,Sandra,Amethyst,Palestine,Amjad,Hirakhan and all truths…
make no mistake the evil israeli gvrnmt, is trying to get rid of Christianity from it’s imediate borders. I have said this before and I’ll say it again.
“Christianity is israels greatest threat,do not forget about this”.
Now they hide behind our muslem brothers and blame Hizballah.
Lets not forget(not that we will) Lebanon is the past,current and future truth! The israeli gvrnmt is self distructing…,this TRUTH is causing them frustration and problems from within.There are thousands of jews all over the world who know this.
For my people who see and live the TRUTH, peace.
For the rest, well you do not matter.
Our prayers are aslo with Palestine.
Long live Lebanon.
August 8th, 2006 at 10:21 am
Jane not dumb not plain, peace to you for you see the truth.
The evil israeli gvrnmt beast..,God is watching you, the Children are looking down from heaven can see you.
Evil israeli gvrnmt, you punishment is not far.
Long live Lebanon.
August 8th, 2006 at 10:34 am
Truth7,
I have seen the film before and it is awesome and very moving.
Unfortunatley it is too much for some of the zipperheads here. They’ll tell you it’s full of fantasy and not very factual. A couple of them will turn it off within the first few seconds because they will find the fact that Israel has not complied with U.N. resolutions as nonsense. Others will watch it and say it was the most hateful, prejudice and racist thing they ever saw.
It is education to those with their eyes open. It is full of fact and it is happening today!!!!!
August 8th, 2006 at 12:07 pm
Thousands on both sides?? Thousands on both sides. Amazing.
Listen up World, see how the zion image-making machinery does its grand work OF DECEPTION!
Once again, my little pebble brain (which is 3 times the size of your heart and half as dark as the soul you somehow “INHABIT” or it ‘INHABITS” you):
There you go again equalizing the pain and suffering of LEBANON to your own isreal! You take the devastation of LEBANON AND HER PEOPLE AND YOU PATHETICALLY TWIST IT AROUND TO MAKE IT isreal’s.
I do not need to go to a Circus or Zoo, all I have to do is scan your sociopathic rants and I have all the Circus and Zoo that I need. Only it is a Circus of Dead Clowns and a Zoo of Dead Animals, is it NOT zion Robot?
THERE IS NO - ABSOLUTELY NO COMPARISON - TO THE NUMBERS OF LEBANON’S DEAD, THE NUMBERS OF LEBANON’S CRIPPLED, AND INJURED, THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DEVASTION TO LEBANON’S CITIES, TOWNS, VILLAGES, HOMES,HOSPITALS, ROADS, BRIDGES, THE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE SUFFERING GREAT HEARTACHE, NOT JUST IN LEBANON, BUT FAMILIES AROUND THE WORLD WHO ARE RELATED TO THE DEAD AND LIVING IN LEBANON.
ISREAL’S SMALL NUMBERS PALE MISERABLY TO THE MILLIION PEOPLE IN LEBANON SUFFERING THE DEVASTATION THAT ISREAL ITSELF HAS PLUNGED LEBANON INTO.
DO NOT EVER ONCE THINK THAT YOU CAN TURN THIS HORRIBLE NIGHTMARE OF LEBANON’S INTO AN ISREAL NIGHTMARE.
You think the world is STUPID. Try very hard to THINK again, my little zion pebble brain (which is three times the size of your heart and half as dark as the soul which you “INHABIT”)
August 8th, 2006 at 12:31 pm
I see that some people feel offended by what I have said againts Israel. The way I see it is that I am very pro-Palestine and Lebanon. If my comments are seen as inflamatory to some, is because I feel mvery strongly towards defending what I see are innocent people. I am neither from Palestine nor from any Arab country, never the less, when there is violence and innocent people like children get hurt and or killed, I too will speak my mind off. I think that in this conflict you are either with or against Lebanon. So choose your side.
August 8th, 2006 at 12:32 pm
The US-backed Israeli assault on Lebanon has left the country numb, smoldering and angry. The massacre in Qana and the loss of life is not simply “disproportionate.” It is, according to existing international laws, a war crime.
The deliberate and systematic destruction of Lebanon’s social infrastructure by the Israeli air force was also a war crime, designed to reduce that country to the status of an Israeli-US protectorate.
The attempt has backfired, as people all over the world watch aghast. In Lebanon itself, 87 percent of the population now support Hezbollah’s resistance, including 80 percent of Christian and Druze and 89 percent of Sunni Muslims, while 8 percent believe the US supports Lebanon.
But these actions will not be tried by any court set up by the “international community” since the United States and its allies that commit or are complicit in these appalling crimes will not permit it.
Tariq Ali
Noam Chomsky
Edward Galeano
Howard Zinn
Ken Loach
John Berger
Arundhati Roy
August 8th, 2006 at 12:46 pm
GLAD TO KNOW YOU JOSH. IT IS GOOD THAT YOU ARE HERE (SMILE).
August 8th, 2006 at 12:50 pm
It has now become clear that the assault on Lebanon to wipe out Hezbollah had been prepared long before. Israel’s crimes had been given a green light by the United States and its ever-loyal British ally, despite the overwhelming opposition to Blair in his own country.
The short peace that Lebanon enjoyed has come to an end, and a paralyzed country is forced to remember a past it had hoped to forget. The state terror inflicted on Lebanon is being repeated in the Gaza ghetto, while the “international community” stands by and watches in silence. Meanwhile the rest of Palestine is annexed and dismantled with the direct participation of the United States and the tacit approval of its allies.
Tariq Ali
Noam Chomsky
Edward Galeano
Howard Zinn
Ken Loach
John Berger
Arundhati Roy
August 8th, 2006 at 12:55 pm
We offer our solidarity and support to the victims of this brutality and to those who mount a resistance against it. For our part, we will use all the means at our disposal to expose the complicity of our governments in these crimes. There will be no peace in the Middle East while the occupations of Palestine and Iraq and the temporarily “paused” bombings of Lebanon continue.
Tariq Ali
Noam Chomsky
Eduardo Galeano
Howard Zinn
Ken Loach
John Berger
Arundhati Roy
August 8th, 2006 at 1:06 pm
Assez !
Honte pour l’humanité !
August 8th, 2006 at 1:25 pm
It trully is incredible the amount of moral support that other peoples from totally different backgrounds have for the Palestinian and Lebanese people. I for one would love to see Palestine and lebanon first hand after this is all over. I have heard many wonderful things about the culture and traditions. I thank you karen for your kind words.
I think that in years to come the world entire will wake up and trully see who the real bullies and terrorists really were in this conflict and genocide.
August 8th, 2006 at 1:49 pm
Think about this. When Israel started this current reign of terror look at all the countries who had to evacuate their people from Lebanon. Canadian, French, American, German, Australian and countless others. Then look at all the religions that co-existed in that country.
This may have been the biggest threat to Israel. They want nothing more than the rest of the world to believe that Muslims are animals and cannot get along with anyone. If the Arab world continues to embrace people from all over the world and they live side by side as brothers and sisters what excuse will they have? How can Israel continue to try make the world believe Muslim nations want nothing but death and destruction to all non muslims?
Lebanon was begining to be know as “The Paris of the Middle East”. I’m sure Israel just loved that one.
Well, they are making sure there is nothing for those people to return to. Israeli PIGS!!!!
August 8th, 2006 at 3:06 pm
Bismillah Hirrahma Nirrahim
In the name of Allah, the most Beneficent the Merciful,
please forward this http://www.mujahideenryder.net to as many people as you can!
please watach this on internet/computer:-
http://www.mujahideenryder.net
George Galloway from London speaks out our behalf on the Israeli war on UK news
Thank you very much and JAZAAK ALLAH
PLEASE PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO ALL ISLAMIC WEBSIDE AND ALSO CNN.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:07 pm
Bismillah Hirrahma Nirrahim
In the name of Allah, the most Beneficent the Merciful,
please forward this http://www.mujahideenryder.net to as many people as you can!
please watach this on internet/computer:-
http://www.mujahideenryder.net
George Galloway from London speaks out our behalf on the Israeli war on UK news
Thank you very much and JAZAAK ALLAH
August 8th, 2006 at 3:28 pm
For the slow learners amongst you and those who can’t read, I repeat what I said earlier:
———————————————–
Rant and rave all you like, the end result will be the same:
* the state of Israel will still be around whether you like it or not
* Hezbollah will be pushed out of/neutralised militarily in Southern Lebanon
* some sort of international military force, possibly with some Lebanese army component, will monitor and maintain a demilitarized zone on the Lebanese side of the border
* thousands of families ON BOTH SIDES will be mourning the dead and caring for injured.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:31 pm
Ooohhhh SMACK!!!!!
You zipperheads are going to hate this one!! Of course you’ll all say it’s propaganda, theres no real facts and some wishy washy bullshit about prejudice and racism.
Thank you Zaidi….What a great link!!!!!!
August 8th, 2006 at 3:32 pm
Karen
I love the way you write. You must be a very animated person!
August 8th, 2006 at 4:16 pm
What Palestine and Lebanon need right now are the old Black Septembers, Carlos the jackal’s, Mohammed Boudia’s and PFLP’s to start striking deep inside Israeli territory and target their banks, hospitals, malls etc to even out the field.
August 8th, 2006 at 4:21 pm
We Do Not Want to Read the Sociopathic rantings of the zion piglet section of paul ’super zion SOCIOPATH” wolfowitz and richard “super zion SOCIOPATH” perle.
okay? my little dim-witted CHARLES MANSON, TED BUNDY worshipper?
NOW FOR SOME VERY MEANINGFUL TALK:
THANK YOU ZAIDI…THAT WAS AWESOME. I AM SPREADING THIS AROUND! BLESS YOU.
ALSO, ANOTHER GOOD AND DECENT MAN AS IS GEORGE GALLOWAY IS THE PRESIDENT OF LEBANON, EMILE LAHOUD.
I HEARD HIM ON CNN TODAY. WHAT A RIGHTEOUS, GREAT MAN HE IS. HIS WORDS SPEAK NOTHING BUT TRUTH. A NOBLE SPIRIT AND ELOQUENT SPEAKER IS PRESIDENT EMILE LAHOUD
August 8th, 2006 at 4:50 pm
All I am saying is that I just looked at the news and Israel is saying they will push much deeper into Lebanese teritory before any outside entity takes any action. An eye for an eye. War is not for the squemish much less the soft.
August 8th, 2006 at 5:20 pm
WOW! Very bad! But fucking lebanonian - stop your fucking abductions of israely soldiers and stop shoot missiles to israel or you are all die!
August 8th, 2006 at 5:21 pm
Does anyone know anything about what the people from downtown Beirut are doing to feed themselves? Is there any clean water or food? My friends dad is stuck there and we have no idea how he is doing.
August 8th, 2006 at 5:22 pm
I am sorry Israel, I don’t speak fag.
August 8th, 2006 at 6:23 pm
Oh, a compliment from Silan! THANK YOU. (smile, smile, smile).
I greatly appreciate all your information that you give us. THE MORE THE MERRIER.
August 8th, 2006 at 6:24 pm
Karen,
You say:
“There you go again equalizing the pain and suffering of LEBANON to your own isreal!…
THERE IS NO - ABSOLUTELY NO COMPARISON - TO THE NUMBERS OF LEBANON’S DEAD, THE NUMBERS OF LEBANON’S CRIPPLED, AND INJURED.”
I agree with you, 100%, I really do, cross my heart.
So why do have to spoil this argument with “equalizing” and comparing” this present situation with that of the holocaust?
It is the same sin.
It is also something none of those admirable people you quote above, Noam Chomsky, et. al. would ever abide by.
August 8th, 2006 at 9:14 pm
First I want to thank u all for everything ur saying and doing to try to help us..
Its doesn’t matter if ur Jewish or christen or Muslim or Druze or anything else..
It doesn’t matter if ur Lebanese or Israeli an or Palestinian or American or British or anything else.. it doesn’t matter what ur country have more or less than my country..
It doesn’t matter if Ur skin is white or black… It doesn’t matter if u r a male or a female
It doesn’t matter if Ur poor or rich…
Once all this doesn’t matter anymore.. we’ll finally live in peace!!!
Have u ever think about what will happened is there was no army.. And no weapons..? At all Keep the police with his partner and a stick.. And jail with everything else.. Who cares?!?
But cancel the army or war ships or planes and everything as weapons..
What do u think will happen to the world?
Anyway who am I to even ask.. or even talk..
Guys we’ll be out of fuel in about 6 days.. That means no electricity even in the hospitals!! And a lot of ppl will die.. plz argue about that maybe u’ll find a way to stop that from happening.. We r not asking for more.. if u can’t stop the bombs and the killing at least find a way to help.. Thank you all…
August 8th, 2006 at 9:34 pm
For the slow learners amongst you and those who can’t read, I repeat what I said earlier:
———————————————–
Rant and rave all you like, the end result will be the same:
* the state of Israel will still be around whether you like it or not
* Hezbollah will be pushed out of/neutralised militarily in Southern Lebanon
* some sort of international military force, possibly with some Lebanese army component, will monitor and maintain a demilitarized zone on the Lebanese side of the border
* thousands of families ON BOTH SIDES will be mourning the dead and caring for injured.
Need to clarify so that it is clear to all of you that Israel will have gained a buffer zone which hopefully will keep terrorists out and prevent the spate of attacks similar to what started this current conflict.
All this thanks to Hezbollah.
August 8th, 2006 at 9:45 pm
Hello my
people…Silan,Zaidi,Josh,Karen,Shawn,Sandra,Amethyst,Palestine,Amjad,Hirakhan and all truths…
make no mistake the evil israeli gvrnmt, is trying to get rid of Islam as well as “Christianity” from it’s imediate borders. I have said this before and I’ll say it again.
“Christianity is israels greatest threat,do not forget about this”.The Terror card does not work with us christians does it?! so…Now they hide behind our muslem brothers and blame Hizballah.
Lets not forget(not that we will) Lebanon is the PAST,CURRENT and FUTURE TRUTH! The israeli gvrnmt is self distructing…,this TRUTH is causing them frustration and problems from within.THERE DEMISE IS VERY NEAR. There are thousands of jews all over the world who know this.
For my people who Live&See the TRUTH, peace.
For the rest, well you sipmly do not matter.
Our prayers are aslo with Palestine.
Long live Lebanon.
August 8th, 2006 at 9:47 pm
My people see this,
(’http://www.ceasefirecampaign.org/mo/en.html’);
Long live Lebanon.
August 8th, 2006 at 9:59 pm
WELL PEOPLE, AND SANDRA, TOO… A COUSIN OF MINE WROTE THIS POEM. PERHAPS IT CAN SPREAD JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HOPE AND SOME MOMENT OF HEARTFELT GLADNESS. GOD KNOWS WE NEED IT WHEN WE SEE DAY AFTER DAY ON OUR TV CHANNELS THAT HORRIBLE ISRAEL ARMY ACTING LIKE SOME MURDER MACHINE…SO HEARTLESS, SO EVIL. THANKS TO THIS GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL AND ITS COWARD MILITARY, SANDRA, YOU ARE IN THIS DIRE PREDICAMENT. ISRAEL HAS CUT OFF YOUR POWER, WATER SUPPLY, FOOD AND MEDICINE. THESE “SO CALLED HEROES” OF DEMOCRACY ARE REALLY JUST SAVAGE, DESPICABLE GANGS. CUTTING OFF SUPPLIES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN SUCH GREAT NEED, SANDRA, AND WE HAVE BEEN QUITE HELPLESS WITH WRITING TO OUR GOVERNMENTS AND RALLYING IN THE STREETS. WE ARE STILL PRAYING EVERYDAY FOR ALL YOU WONDERFUL PEOPLE IN LEBANON.
for a moment we see
Lebanon
Weeping, her head low
But this is not so
all along
We were wrong
Not today, says She
for there are still so many children to raise
Weddings to attend
a wealth of days to spend
with a sister and a friend
and to rebuild….
and we see
shadows of children, like ghosts
playing gently in lebanon’s quiet fields
like breezes, skipping softly on her empty streets
long into silent nights… reaching
into sad tearless dawns
and we say…
Lebanon…
are these not your lost children
wrenched murderously from your land?
and Lebanon rises higher
her lips up-reaching and wide
she hugs you to her great big heart
laughing sweetly…
“God is on our side.”
“they are not dead
they never died.
and There are no tears, not today.
for until the time that I must be gone
there is a community of great spirit to which I belong
I am part of this world, this earth, this universe
for that I am strong
unlike words that lose their way
yet the melody in one’s head plays on and on
I am that song
and so…
I am not dead
I never died,
surely not today
I am lebanon
Diana S. jaye
August 8th, 2006 at 10:30 pm
sandra, my dear,
we do see the terrible things going on in Lebanon. its like a horror movie that will not end. That evil Israel will not allow for a ceasefire. They have never wanted one right from the beginning when the hizballa, did want a ceasefire…Israel did not. everyone listens to this Israel.
it was so simple Sandra, right from the beginning. all that had to be done was a negotiation for soldiers and civilians in prisons. but Israel did not want to negotiate. when other countries like France, Italy, Russia, and others that i cannot remember, well they called for an immediate ceasefire right from the beginning. so did the Lebanon Government, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and no one listened to them dear Sarah, because this thing called Israel says no.
we are sick at heart for your people in Lebanon.
Dear Sandra, there is much aid that has come into Lebanon but Israel keeps bombing roads, and bridges to keep aid from getting to you and so many other people. we see this every single day on our tv.
dear Sandra and so many girls and boys out there like you i cry almost everday for Lebanon.
it is like a horror movie that will not stop.
the Israel Military is the most wicked wicked wicked wicked thing that me and my family and friends have ever seen.
we are praying and crying for you everday Dear Sandra.
i am not Lebanese, i am Canadian Catholic.
now that we see what your people are going thru we love you like you are our own.
love Jane.
August 9th, 2006 at 12:22 am
Its a true picture of American & Isarailies act, and their so called leadership for Peace for the world. How shameful for the people of these two republics that their governments are betraying the trust of the whole World Community and also of their own Nation
August 9th, 2006 at 12:40 am
I know..
Am so sorry.. I was kinda rude…
I know that u guys can’t do anything.. I was only lying to myself.. Thinking that maybe there is something more to do.. I see our prime minister crying on TV.. Begging them to stop.. I even see a lot of countries that couldn’t do anything.. Am one of the few ppl who still have access to the internet I just thought that maybe I could do something or even anything.. But deep inside I know that am just living a lie…
Thank you all for ur support that means a lot to us.. Thank u for the poems and love.. u guys made me cry.. I needed that.. I need to explain something…
Never believe that it’s about Muslim ppl only.. Its like a good friend once told me about rape.. its not about u or how u look like or even dress like.. Its about controlling and having power over u.. Especial when it comes from ppl around u coz they know ur weak points.. Am Christian from Jnoub (Nabatieh) living in the mountain..(A lot of u may not know what I mean by that.. so am going to try to explain.. in Jnoub there is a lot of Muslim ppl and in the mountain a lot r Druze) We had a civil war that even wasn’t created by us.. There is 19 religion in my country.. We never looked at it as a bad thing.. Not at all.. Everything that happened in my country since 50years till now was made by someone else.. (By those big countries…) And under 1 title: religion… (Palestine’s have the same weak point as they call it)
But Its not true.. We r not like that.. We never look at it that way.. But they have it as a weak point that they can control and make wars under her name.. And when they start losing the war they create another civil war and then they come and save us from each other.. And like that they can control us again.. By saying to the world that they r saving a religion from the other.. (Or something like it)Its been there game since years but this time the world is watching and some r starting to see the truth.. so they called us terrorists.. but We r not terrorists and we r not religion ppl.. Read between the lings of every war going on now.. The reason of it this there.. (It can be oil, water, land, jealousy, power, money, etc…)
Deep inside we all know who is the evil and who is behind and for what…
But when we r going to be strong enough to admit and to stop it…
God bless u all…
August 9th, 2006 at 2:09 am
God Bless You Sandra for your courage and your insight …….
I honestly dont know what I would do in your situation. Be aware that there a lot of people as you said who are finally seeing the TRUTH. The internet and independant media are bringing out the TRUTH, for the whole world to see and believe me they are seeing …….. Although some choose to REMAIN BLIND.
Sandra I am sorry with all my being and fibre for the bloody sacrifices the innocent people of Lebabnon and Palestine are being made to endure from these decieving self rightous demons and wanna be creaters of “THE NEW MIDDLE EAST”.
Take Heart Dear Girl that when the last of the bodies are unearthed and the rubble is swept from the streets, and the beautiful Lebanese people that are left come out to clean up the bloodied mess that their “friendly neighbours visit” left behind, LEBANON will start to rebuild itself and once again BE A PROUD and BEAUTIFUL nation
THERE WILL BE A NEW MIDDLE EAST …… ONE WITH NO PLACE FOR THE HATRED AND SELF SERVING REGIME OF ZIONISM
August 9th, 2006 at 3:11 am
DANI
I HAVE ASKED YOU REPEATEDLY TO FOCUS ON THE CLEAR AND PRESENT ACTIONS OF YOUR ZIONIST GOVERNMENT. WHY IS IT DANI ……. THAT THEY ARE CO INCIDENTALLY LIVING AND ACTING OUT ALL THAT HAS BEEN SAID OF THEM IN THE PAST?? ALL THAT YOU HAVE DEFENDED THEM FROM. YOU ARE BLINDED BY YOUR OWN HATRED DISGUISED AS COMPASSION AND RATIONALE …… YET YOU CONSTANTLY STRIVE TO MAKE ISRAEL THE ISSUE.
I HAVE ADMITTED TO HATING THE ZIONIST STATE OF ISRAEL AND HAVE BEEN QUITE OPEN AND HONEST ABOUT IT ……… AND YOU HAVE CALLED ME A BIGOT
PERHAPS I AM DANI ……. BUT IM AN HONEST BIGOT, WHICH IS MORE THAN I CAN SAY FOR YOU
PROOF YET AGAIN THAT YOU CAN NEVER BELIEVE WHAT THESE ZIONIST PIGS ARE SAYING
August 9th, 2006 at 3:21 am
TO Goddess Diana Proctector of Children
YOUR COUSINS POEM WAS TRUELY WONDERFUL AND MOVING. I HAVE TAKEN THE LIBERTY OF PASSING IT ON TO SOME OF MY FRIENDS …… I HOPE YOU R COUSIN DOSENT MIND.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR ALL THE KIND WORDS AND HEARTFELT THOUGHTS (’_')
August 9th, 2006 at 3:37 am
Amethyst - eh, I thought the issue was Israel - I mean after all you and your bed-fellows are constantly condemning Israel, blaming Israel for all your woes, criticizing Israel for what is happening in Lebanon now, admitting your hate for Israel, etc., etc., etc.
So, my friend, you and others here have clearly made Israel the issue and that being the case I have every right to present an alternate point of view whether you agree with it or not.
And since I have got your attention, are you able to explain to the old, simple man that I am what was the purpose of Hezbollah, on July 12, crossing the border into Israel, killing and kidnapping Israeli soldiers and following this up with rocket attacks into Israel ???
Would really appreciate your enlightening me with the reason for this, as I am of feeble mind and unable to work it out for myself.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:04 am
Dear God Have mercy on the innocent civilians slaughered and massacared by the Evil Zionist Government . And to our Arab Leaders a Simple annoucement will make Israel terrified and will make them go back to where they came from : just tell them this ” if you do not withdraw within 48 hours we will ask all the people to Jihad ” . and you will how they will run scared terrified of what will happen , a small group ” Hizbollah ” put one million of them in shelters , how about all the arab people ?
August 9th, 2006 at 4:14 am
Yeah, right Don, like its going to happen !!! - by the way, a great contribution to trying to get peace in the region. Keep it up !!!
August 9th, 2006 at 4:51 am
Dani,
Keep telling yourself this all started on July 12th stupid. I see you haven’t visited any of the links and that you continue to read the short blogs instead of ones with insight. It’s ok though we realize you can’t teach an old dog anything.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:55 am
Can everyone please stop fighting on this site. This site was not made so people could offend the Muslims or even bring up religion as a topic of dicussion. THIS SITE WAS MADE SO THE WORLD COULD HELP US TO STOP ISRAEL DESTROYING LEBANON. So why don’t we try this…… If you do not support Lebanon go start your on site and leave this one alone. You have little to no hope of convincing the Lebanese people they deserve this. Some of you are even calling each other names and swearing. Shame on you. What do you feel you are acheiving. Israel must stop this, it is inhumane. It is the ultimate hypocracy considering the history of their people to condone a genocide of the Lebanese.
Allah is our God, do not lower yourself to a narrow minded prejudice attitude which mocks the personal beliefs of people.
Peace be with you all, please stop fighting.
Lolly, Bankstown - Sydney, Australia.
August 9th, 2006 at 5:02 am
By the way. Yesterday when the Arab leauge spoke to the U.N. it was clear the tide is shifting. Saudi Arabia, Eygpt and Jordan all condemnd Israel’s action giving no mention to Hezbollah. It wasn’t until Dan “The Devil” Gillerman had a chance to spout his hate that Hezbollah was brought up. Ask yourself this. I wonder if the slave owners of early America thought they would always be able to keep blacks as slaves. I’ll bet they never thought that one day they would rise up and demand their rights as human beings. Keep telling yourself Israel will never have to pay for their oppression of the Arab people. History tells us this will not continue.
August 9th, 2006 at 5:09 am
DANI
NO DANI ISRAEL IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE THE ISSUE HERE IS THE DESTRUCTION ISRAEL IS CARRYING OUT ON ITS FRIEND (WHAT A JOKE THAT IS) AND NEIGHBOUR
I BELIEVE FROM REPORTS THAT I HAVE READ THAT HEZBALLAH CARRIED OUT THE RAID ON YOUR SOLDIERS BECAUSE THEY HAD BEEN CONSTANTLY HARRASSING THEM FROM OVER THE BORDER, SOME REPORTS EVEN SAY THAT THE ISRAELI ARMY HAS BEEN CROSSING THE BORDER ON A NUMBER OF OOCASIONS THEMSELVES AND KIDNAPPING PEOPLE WITHOUT AUTHORITY, AND SO THEY GRABBED A COUPLE OF YOUR BOYS (AND VERY SADLY KILLED A FEW MORE)TO USE THEM AS NEGOTIATION TOOLS FOR THE THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT LEBANESE CITIZENS (NOT SOLDIERS)THAT ARE BEING HELD IN YOUR ZIONIST GOVERNMENTS DUNGEONS WITHOUT TRIAL OR CHARGES …….. DENY THAT ONE TOO WHY DONT YOU DANI
AND IF HORROR OF HORRORS THEY DID FIRE SOME ROGUE MISSILES THAT HAVE HIT MAINLY EMPTY COUNTRY SIDE ……… THAT CAN IN NO WAY JUSTIFY THE COMPLETE BOMBARDMENT AND DESTRUCTION OF (AT THIS STAGE ONLY) THE SOUTHERN AND EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTRY AND KILLING 1000s (AND THE RUBBLE HASNT EVEN BEEN DUG UP YET) AND DISPLACING OVER 1,000,000
THE ZIONIST ISRAELI GOVERNMENT IS PREVENTING CIVILLIANS FROM LEAVING THE AREAS THAT ARE BEING BOMBARDED, THEY ARE PREVENTING AID FROM GETTING IN, AND THEY ARE PREVENTING THE LOCALS FROM HAVEING TIME TO DIG UP THEIR DEAD CHILDREN AND IN SOME CASES COMEING BACK AND HITTING THE SAME AREA REPEATIDLY SO THAT THERE IS NOTHING LEFT OF THE DEAD TO DIG UP.
JUSTIFY YOUR BARBARIC NATION ALL YOU WANT DANI BOY …… IT IS YOUR RIGHT, BUT THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING AND THE TRUTH IS BEING PLAYED OUT AS WE SPEAK
AND WHEN I SAID YOU DUMMY THAT YOU KEEP MAKING THIS ABOUT ISRAEL I WAS NOT REFERING TO THE ZIONIST STATE I WAS REFERRING TO THE LOSS OF INNOCENTS (WHAT ABOUT OUR DEAD, WHAT ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST)THAT YOUR NATION HAS TIME AND AGAIN PUT IN DANGER BECAUSE OF THE HATE AND CONTROL THEY NEED TO HAVE OVER THEIR NEIGHBOURS. BUT AT LEAST YOU CAN REACH YOUR DEAD AND BURY THEM ……. WHAT IS ISRAEL LEAVING FOR OUR GRIEVING FAMILIES TO BURY
ISRAEL IS TO BLAME FOR ALL THE HATRED IT INSTILS IN PEOPLES HEARTS WHEN THEY SEE WITH THEIR OWN EYES WHAT A ROGUE AND CALLOUS ZIONIST MURDERERS OF INNOCENTS YOUR GOVERNMENT IS
SO NOW THAT I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER MY QUESTION?
HOW IS IT THAT IM A BIGOT FOR STATING MY BELIEFS AND HATRED FOR YOUR ZIONIST STATE?
AND WHEN YOU COUNTER ATTACK WITH WORDS OF “YOU AINT SEEN NOTHING YET, WAIT UNTIL WE REALY GET STARTED ON YOU, WE’LL TEACH YOU WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT (yes Dani, my words not yours)BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RE READ YOUR OWN IVE CUT AND PATED THEM INTO ONE OF MY LAST MESSAGES.
WHY ARE THERE DOUBLE STANDARDS DANI
ONEs THAT ARE ACCEPTED FOR THE ZIONISTs and ONEs THAT ARE DENIED TO US (THE ARABS and ALL WHO DARE TO STAND UP TO ISRAEL(you know, those anti semites)
IF AS YOU SAY ALL THAT INFORMATION KAREN AND I PROVIDED IS FALSE, MISLEADING AND BIGOTED …….
THEN WHY PRAY TELL IS YOUR BELOVED GOVERNMENT LIVING OUT THESE FALSE MISLEADING AND BIGOTED LIES IN THEIR ACTIONS AND WORDS AGAINST THE PALESTINIANS AND THE LEBANESE
CANT YOU AT LEAST OPEN YOUR EYES TO THE TRUTH THAT IS IN FRONT YOU AND ADMIT THAT THIS HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH HEZBALLAH AND THE CAPTURE OF TWO SOLDIERS
HEZBALLAH HAS CONTINUALLY ASKED FOR A CEASE FIRE …. ITs ISRAELS CHOICE TO KEEP BOMBING AND EXPANDING THIS ATTACK ON MY COUNTRY AS EVERY DAY GOES BY.
POPULAR OPINION IS THAT THEY WANT TO DESTROY AS MUCH AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN (WITH THE SUPPORT AND BACKING OF THE US) BEFORE THEY ARE FORCED TO STOP
DOES THAT EXPLAIN IT TO YOU ONCE AGAIN YOU HATEFUL OLD MAN
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING
August 9th, 2006 at 5:24 am
DEAR SWEET LOLLY
THESE ANTAGONISERS HAVE BEEN ASKED REPEATEDLY BY MYSELF (VERY NICELY ON THREE OCCASIONs) AND OTHERS, BUT THEY ARE LIKE A DOG WITH A BONE …… THEY STAY ON HERE AND POST THEIR LIES AND PLEAD WITH US TO SEE THEIR CAUSE IS RIGHTEOUS ….. BUT TRUTH BE KNOWN THEY ARE ONLY INCITING FRUSTRATION AT OUR INABILITY TO SHUT THEM UP AND EVEN MORE HATRED TOWARDS THEMSELVES.
AND DONT LET THE NAME CALLING GET YOU DOWN
YOU KNOW THE OLD SAYING ……… STICKS AND STONES
August 9th, 2006 at 6:00 am
The world has turn inhumain, the end od days are very near, just so everyone knows, every dog has its day and what goes around will come around..Keep your sloiderty strong..and God bless the soles of our beloved ones…
August 9th, 2006 at 6:08 am
You know, I really don’t care one way or the other what you think about Israel or Jews for that matter.
I do care, however, that some of you here are so blind with hatred towards Israel that you can’t see beyond that hatred to what is really going on. That’s your choice and you are the ones in the end who will have to live with this.
Unfortunately, it would appear that things are only going to get worse in the coming days unless by some miracle a cease fire is agreed upon first.
At the end of the day, lives will have been sacrificed as a direct result of Hezbollah actions for a demilitarized zone in Southern Lebanon.
Whilst this will lead to a buffer zone which from Israel’s point of view is a good thing, the question that will be asked by many Lebanese at a later date is what was Hezbollah trying to achieve by its actions on July 12 and its subsequent rocket attacks on Israel - ations that were designed to provoke Israeli reaction and actions that any blind Freddy could have forseen.
August 9th, 2006 at 7:39 am
I saw the photos. The horror. Human is crazy. My lebanon friend said sending this email, “we will over pass this crisis”. This is the contrast between the horrible side and the beautiful amazing hoping side of human being.
August 9th, 2006 at 8:35 am
to that awful person: aug. 9, 6:08 am
well if you don’t care then…..SHUT UP!
i see that you are getting very upset.
why dont you go take a teddy bear from one of the deceased Lebanese children and hug it??
August 9th, 2006 at 1:52 pm
If anyone’s blind it’s all of you because you have too much emotional involvement in the situation to see it clearly. The sad fact is that Jews and Arabs cannot live peacefully together in one area unless they both simultaneously grow out of their middle age mentality, which would take a real miracle indeed – just like England and France couldn’t live peaceably as neighbors until they grew out of their middle age mentality.
The sad part is that some Israelis actually think that they are a modern nation – the only reason they have modern technology is because the US gives it to them! The sooner all parties involved realize that they are stuck in the dark ages and need to grow up, the better off everyone will be.
August 9th, 2006 at 3:25 pm
jerryboy, you have no clue as to what you are talking about. none.
your band aid solutions for what is going on in the middle east is not needed here.
england and france comparison to the lebanon/israel situation is quite a joke. a six year old might say something like that.
no wait. that is not true. a six year old would be way smarter than you.
August 9th, 2006 at 3:41 pm
Yes dumb Jane, upset at what is going on and sad over what is about to happen. You guys just don’t get it.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:09 pm
DANI READ THIS YOU ZIONIST PEICE OF SHIT.
ARE YOU SO STUPID THAT YOU CAN’T ACTUALLY ACCEPT WHAT YOU ARE AND ATLEAST TRY TO PROVE YOUR NOT A CHILD KILLING PIG?
I hope Israel is satisfied with their killings, many people are suffering because of their missiles which are suppose to be ‘Attacking Hezbollah buildings’ which is a complete lie. How can they make a mistake when they use a smart missile? ( A missile that doesn’t miss )
I’m glad that some of the Israeli people protests against their army’s action.
The world needs to open its eyes and stop this, the damn politics are ALL in on this, every single one that is against Hezbollah is I’m betting in on this, they have planned this and that is why they do not relize what pigs those Zionists are.
May god bless the souls of the departed children and cast the souls of the dead Israeli soldiers to the darkest part in hell.
May Sharon still be tortured in his coma and survive it to be given another chance to be tortured in life. May the new president of Israel rot in hell and have his family assassinated. I hope Bush dies in the worst possible way imaginable… even though death is too good for him. And Gondaliza Rice can go die, we see through your lame attempts to pretend you are sorry for what is happening.
And last and definitly the least, screw you Tony Blair, stop sucking up to Israel and go drink your tea.
I hope that all the Canadians and any other country people are evacuated from Lebanon.
I hope Israel is happy that none of the Lebanese can leave the countries due to the bridge bombing. Hmm… I wonder… you say
that you are trying to stop Hezbollah yet you stop every single innocent Lebanese citizen from escaping your heartless bombing.
This is clearly nothing but a massacre, and a selfish act by the Israeli Government for more land.
Right now Israel is attempting to enter Lebanon with a full blown attack, I hope you are all slaughtered to replace the irreplacable lives you took.
How do you soldiers go to sleep when childrens blood is on you hands? Are you proud that you murdered hundreds of people? And is this what you call a rescue mission for your beloved Corporal.
Israel is supposedly the 3rd strongest army in the world. From what I see killing innocent children REALLY proves that you are strong. So lets see the aftermath so far.. hundreds of moslty children and women die from Zionist attacks… and yet most of the Israeli casualties are from Hezbollah forces? WOW Israelis are being beaten by a group of people? A Gorilla Force? Stop sucking up to Bush for weapons, and learn to fight like a man, throw away your weapons and wash your hands from the blood of the kids, and fight Hezbollah, you will lose in less then a day.
And the Jewish people call Hezbollah cowards for not showing their faces on the news? What are we? As stupid as you are? They wouldn’t want to get their families involved in the other countries(Deportation). Well if we are ‘cowards’ then what are you? Atleast our soldiers don’t sit and cry on GLOBAL TELIVISION because they got beat hard.
I am not against the Israeli people nor’ the Jews, but some of them need to open their eyes and see what their government really is. And see what the worlds is, this is nothing but a dark age we live in, our world has fallen apart, and World War 3 is definitly upon us. May I pray this war is not the end of us.
-Justice-
August 9th, 2006 at 4:14 pm
Jane, calling someone stupid instead of refuting their argument is very weak and usually demonstrates the lack of a counter-argument.
BTW, take a look at my post again and you will see that I didn’t compare England/France to Israel/Lebanon, but rather to the ongoing Jewish/Arab conflict. I can name at least a dozen ways in which the long standing rivarly between the English and French was similar to the long standing rivalry between the Arabs and Jews, can you name a dozen ways in which they are different?
August 9th, 2006 at 4:19 pm
Jerryboy arabs and jews have been around for alot longer than Fench and England, and there is a big difference, theo nly similarity is that they are btoh at war, but the difference is people weren’t massacred for no good reason.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:34 pm
i just did refute your piddly little bit of crap. and it wasn’t weak. in fact quite strong. your whole problem is that your rude. to look at your post again is a stupid waste of time. you haven’t said anything remotely educated. again. the french and english have nothing to do with what is going on today.
thank you justice for backing me up.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:50 pm
“upset at what is going on and sad over what is about to happen. You guys just don’t get it.”
WELL AREN’T YOU A SNOTTY LITTLE WEASLE TO JANE. TELL ME, DOES THAT BROWN SMELLY STUFF EVER STOP POURING OUT OF YOUR PIE HOLE? AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY WHAT WE DON’T GET? YOU WANT TO BE MEAN AND BELLIGERENT TO PEOPLE, WELL YOUR CALLOUS BEHAVIOR IS MOST TELLING. ARE YOU WITH ISRAEL’S ARMY? IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT THIS WAR THAT WE ALL SHOULD KNOW? YOU DO A GOOD JOB REPRESENTING THE PUNK/BULLY RATIONALE OF YOUR “PEOPLE”, DON’T YOU?
August 9th, 2006 at 5:37 pm
Karen put this link up the other day.
This is not propaganda!!! Americans… we are being lied to by our government and media. Notice that all the speakers are Americans and Israeli’s. please just take the time to watch it then form you opinion.
http://tylerkinch.com/?p=93
August 9th, 2006 at 5:43 pm
Sorry, there is alot of British input as well.
August 9th, 2006 at 6:01 pm
Please not the careful use of the term “state terror” by Noam Chomsky and others.
The distinction made between this and of “terrorism” migth at first seem trivial and inconsequential, but is actually (and in ways you might not expect) very important.
The actions of a “terorist”, the deliberate target of innocents, might seem “obviously” more “morally” reprehensible and repugnant, but, in so doing, the terrorist implicitly acknowledges, indeed relies upon, the very “humanity” of his victims.
“State terror”, on the other hand, while it might not “deliberately target” such innocents, has little or no regard for them. They are acknowledged primarily only as “barriers” to strategic aims or as factors to be used in the calculations of political contingencies.
What is “obvious” here is that this can only occur as a result of, or in the process of, “dehumanization”.
While “terrorism” might be deemed “anti-human”, if you wish, as such it should properly be placed in the realm of criminal activity and hence judged accordingly.
Most often, though, the consequences of the application of state terror are immensely more grave, more pervasive, and more persistent.
And so, it is in this direction that any war of “principles” must turn, the only productive avenue where our energies may be focussed.
Hafeez
August 9th, 2006 at 6:18 pm
Hafeez,
More Noam Chomsky?
Okay.
Right after the kidnapping of the soldiers but before the israeli retaliation, Chomsky remarked that these actions of the hizbollah were “extremely irresponsible” and almost certain to have the most terrible and dire consequences for lebanon and its people.
Turns out he was right, of course.
Who wouldv’e thunk it, huh?
But these were not the pronouncements of some delphic oracle nor the prognostications of a wizened old astrologer, but rather only the simple reasoning of a knowledgeable person.
There are only two possible conclusions we can therefore make:
1. Hizbollah is directed by very foolish leaders.
or
2. These results, the terrible sacrifice and destruction of Lebanon and its people, is what they wanted, what they planned and hoped for.
Either way you are screwed, so do you really want your fate in their hands, as your “defenders” and “protectors”?
August 9th, 2006 at 6:20 pm
Israel - State Terroists, occupiers, thugs, bullies, murdurers.
Palestine & Lebanon - Oppressed victims.
FED UP!!!!!!!
August 9th, 2006 at 6:57 pm
Shawn - add Australia to your list, coz I am a dinky di Aussie from the land downunder.
Captain America - the obvious has been spelt out here many times and most of you still don’t get it.
So I will repeat again for the sake of the slow learners here:
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Rant and rave all you like, the end result will be the same:
* the state of Israel will still be around whether you like it or not
* Hezbollah will be pushed out of/neutralised militarily in Southern Lebanon
* some sort of international military force, possibly with some Lebanese army component, will monitor and maintain a demilitarized zone on the Lebanese side of the border
* thousands of families ON BOTH SIDES will be mourning the dead and caring for injured.
Need to clarify so that it is clear to all of you that Israel will have gained a buffer zone which hopefully will keep terrorists out and prevent the spate of attacks similar to what started this current conflict.
All this thanks to Hezbollah.
August 9th, 2006 at 7:04 pm
Excuse me,
I am not mistaken when I say:
On CNN, when this war first broke out, one of the first items announced was that Hizbullah denied firing the first rockets. However, we never hear that bit of information again. Instead, now all we here is how Hizbullah started this war by firing two rockets at Haifa. According to Mr. Chomsky, it was Israeli military that bombed the airport of Lebanon that really started this war. But we must go back even further. According to Mr. Chomsky (again) it was the kidnappings of two civilians from the border of Gaza that resulted in the capture of Galid Shalit and two other soldiers. Okay.
So now we have the bombing of airport of Lebanon. There are very many grave points to make here:
1. Israeli soldiers capturing two civilians on the Gaza border is by far a worse crime than Hizbullah soldiers capturing the Israeli soldiers. Mr. Chomsky has even said so.
2. Reacting by bombing the airport of Lebanon. Why, dear God, would a military go so extremely far as to bomb another country’s airport over a few captured soldiers?
3. Now, and only now does Hizbullah fire their rockets into Haifa. But the Media does not tell us this and if never will, sadly. The Media will not tell us about the civilians kidnapped on the Gaza border by the Israeli military which took place on 27, June. These people taken and imprisoned were a Doctor and his brother. Why?
4. Now, very quickly after the two rockets were fired into Haifa, does Israel lay to waste a country that has only the tiniest of fraction of weapons that Israel has at its disposal, plus a never ending supply feeding Israel via the U.S.A.
5. There have been no massacres in Israel, save for a few casualties here and there since this 12, July. Lebanon has suffered dozens upon dozens of massacres with its death toll at well over a 1000 people, not including the people under rubble that cannot be retrieved.
6. And I do not need to speak of Lebanon’s infrastructure, economy, and I certainly do not need to speak of the thousands and thousands injured and I do not need to speak of the million Lebanese people who have lost their land and homes.
7. And yet, interestingly enough, I was watching the news. People are still going to Haifa from Canada and the USA.
8. Which makes me wonder. Those Israeli terrorists must be a damned hell of alot deadlier than those Hizbullah soldiers.
9. No one is traveling to Lebanon these days.
August 9th, 2006 at 7:05 pm
Again I ask, can just one person here explain what Hezbollah was trying to achieve with its actions on July 12 and their rocket attacks into Israel ????
August 9th, 2006 at 7:17 pm
the obvious has been spelt out here many times and most of you still don’t get it.
So I will repeat again for the sake of the slow learners here:
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Rant and rave all you like, the end result will be the same:
YOU ARE A VERY LONELY LITTLE PUNK AREN’T YOU? IN FACT YOU WANT US TO BE THE SLOW LEARNERS THAT YOU SAY WE ARE…YOU LITTLE BULLY-PUNK. BUT IN FACT WE ARE QUICK LEARNERS HERE. AND THIS ANGERS YOU GREATLY, I SEE. INDEED I SEE. TELL ME SOMETHING, DOES THIS INCESSANT FORM OF JAPANESE TORTURE (I NOTICE YOU ENJOY COPY AND PASTING AND IT MUST SURELY GIVE YOU A REAL CHARGE) IS THIS ONE OF YOUR TORTURES PUT ON THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE? DOES YOUR PEOPLE SIT IN THEIR ILLEGAL JAIL CELLS AND SAY THE SAME WORDS OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO THESE FORGOTTEN PEOPLE WHO ARE ILLEGALLY IMPRISONED?
August 9th, 2006 at 7:34 pm
ROTFLMFAO at Captain America
HE IS JUST A DUMBASS ….. ITS BEST IF WE TRY TRY TRY TO IGNORE HIM.
I KNOW ITS HARD TO IGNORE AN IRRITATING LITTLE YAPPING DOG THAT JUST WONT LET GO OF THAT ROTTING BONE……. BUT WE HAVE TO TRY
August 9th, 2006 at 7:51 pm
Still waiting for an answer:
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Again I ask, can just one person here explain what Hezbollah was trying to achieve with its actions on July 12 and their rocket attacks into Israel ????
August 9th, 2006 at 8:03 pm
IF THE OBVIOUS HAS BEEN “SPELT OUT” THEN WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE? AS FOR HIZBULLAH, I AM SURE THAT ANY PERSON HERE ON THIS SITE KNOWS THE TRUTH MORE THAN EVER BEFORE. HIZBULLAH IS TRYING TO PROTECT LEBANON FROM THE SAVAGERY OF A BULLY NATION SUCH THAT IS ISRAEL. BUT LOOK AT IT THIS WAY: WHO ARE THE REAL HEROES AND WHO ARE THE PATHETIC BULLY PUNKS? EVEN CNN CANNOT HIDE THIS AWAY FROM US. I MEAN CAN YOU IMAGINE ISRAELI SOLDIERS KILLING DOZENS OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN WITH ONE BOMB, HUNDREDS OF MILES ABOVE FROM THEIR SAFE JETS?. THEY DO NOT GO DOWN IN MY BOOK AS HEROES. THEY DO NOT GO DOWN IN MY BOOK AS SOLDIERS, EVEN.
LOOK AT IT FROM A SANE PERSON’S POINT OF VIEW: WITH ALL OF ISRAEL’S SPECIAL, ADVANCED MILITARY WEAPONS WORTH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS (THANKS TO GOOD OLD U.S.A.) THEY HAVE TANKS, MACHINES GUNS, F-16S, ADVANCED RADAR TECHNOLOGY, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH…AND THEY STILL CANNOT ROOT OUT THE HIZBULLAH. SO WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY KILL HUNDREDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE, UNDER THE RIDICULOUS EXCUSE THAT THE HIZBULLAH IS USING THESE PEOPLE AS SHIELDS!! HOW, GOOD LORD, CAN THE HIZBULLAH BE SHIELDING THEMSELVES WITH PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE SO BUSY FIRING ROCKETS??? WHY THEY EVEN SAID IT ON CNN (BUT THEY DO NOT SAY IT ANYMORE) ISRAEL HAD CLAIMED THAT IT WOULD KILL ANYONE MAN, WOMAN, OR CHILD, TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE HIZBULLAH TO COME AND BE THEIR LATEST PRISONERS. WELL. WHAT KIND OF HEROIC WARFARE IS THIS? ISRAEL HAS A SLEW OF ADVANCED WEAPONRY TO THE TUNE OF BILLIONS WHILE THE LEBANESE ARMY HAS RIFLES AND A FEW ODD BATTLEFIELD RELICS THAT HARDLY WORK. INDEED, WE CAN SEE WHO THE REAL TERRORISTS ARE. YOU ARE JUST A LITTLE BULLY-PUNK LIVING IN AUSTRALIA WITH THE SAME MIND AS YOUR PEOPLE. DON’T YOU THINK ITS TIME FOR YOU TO JOIN YOUR ARMY? I THINK THEY REALLY NEED YOU. I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE STILL ALOT OF LEBANESE CHILDREN FOR YOU TO KILL.
LOOK AT IT THIS WAY: IF YOU JOIN YOUR “COURAGEOUS OUTFIT” PERHAPS YOU WILL NOT BE A LONELY LITTLE MAN ANYMORE.
August 9th, 2006 at 10:04 pm
Awesome!! Well said! I think I am in Love.
August 9th, 2006 at 10:16 pm
Dani Said again and again and again
Again I ask, can just one person here explain what Hezbollah was trying to achieve with its actions on July 12 and their rocket attacks into Israel ????
AGAIN I ASK THIS IDIOT WHAT HE HOPES TO ACHIEVE BY CONSTANTLY HARPING ON THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN……
WHY DONT YOU ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS PUT TO YOU YOU IDIOT
TYPICAL ZIONIST STUBORNESS
August 9th, 2006 at 10:35 pm
May Allah protect the people of lebonan.
August 9th, 2006 at 10:44 pm
No Amethyst,
Typical Zionist Filth.
August 9th, 2006 at 11:47 pm
It’s not Zionist mistake!!!
August 10th, 2006 at 12:27 am
I really am interested in hearing an answer from just one of you to the question - it really is a pretty simple question and surely someone here can answer it for me. So:
Can just one person here explain what Hezbollah was trying to achieve with its actions on July 12 and their rocket attacks into Israel ????
August 10th, 2006 at 12:50 am
Its all about politics …..on cost of innocent people…….
August 10th, 2006 at 2:18 am
Hey Dani
Are you really that stupid or is it just that you’re blind to anything you choose not to see. Scroll back through about a hundred of these posts and you will see that question has been answered like a hundred times already …….
Why dont you answer the questions put to you …….. or are they beyond your comprehension too
And again I ask what do you hope to achieve by being such a pain in the ass
August 10th, 2006 at 3:53 am
Hi Amethyst.
Well I must be blind or stupid or both coz I have looked through the postings here and have not been able to find an answer to my question:
“Can just one person here explain what Hezbollah was trying to achieve with its actions on July 12 and their rocket attacks into Israel ????”
So Amethyst, given that I am possibly blind or stupid or both, would you be kind enough to answer the question for me.
Ta much.
August 10th, 2006 at 3:57 am
Dani,
The most plausible answer to your question is very simple, and obviously I’m not the first one to have thought of it:
With the G8 summit about to start Iran wanted to divert attention from its nuclear program so it asked its buddies in Hezbollah to stir up a bit of trouble.
Like Akbar Somani said, it’s all about politics, and the innocent pay…
But there is something the innocent Arabs and Jews can do to end this long-term conflict! They can stop throwing names at each other (like they are doing on this site) and realize that they both want the same thing: to live peacefully and prosperously without the constant threat of foreign aggression. I don’t know if this is possible, but if the ordinary civilians in both countries would push for peace with everything in them instead of pointing fingers maybe this situation would change.
August 10th, 2006 at 5:07 am
HERE IT IS FOR YOU AGAIN DANI
Amethyst Says:
August 9th, 2006 at 5:09 am
DANI
NO DANI ISRAEL IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE THE ISSUE HERE IS THE DESTRUCTION ISRAEL IS CARRYING OUT ON ITS FRIEND (WHAT A JOKE THAT IS) AND NEIGHBOUR
I BELIEVE FROM REPORTS THAT I HAVE READ THAT HEZBALLAH CARRIED OUT THE RAID ON YOUR SOLDIERS BECAUSE THEY HAD BEEN CONSTANTLY HARRASSING THEM FROM OVER THE BORDER, SOME REPORTS EVEN SAY THAT THE ISRAELI ARMY HAS BEEN CROSSING THE BORDER ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS THEMSELVES AND KIDNAPPING A DOCTOR AND HIS SON, AND SO THEY GRABBED A COUPLE OF YOUR BOYS (AND VERY SADLY KILLED A FEW MORE)TO USE THEM AS NEGOTIATION TOOLS FOR THE THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT LEBANESE CITIZENS (NOT SOLDIERS)THAT ARE BEING HELD IN YOUR ZIONIST GOVERNMENTS DUNGEONS WITHOUT TRIAL OR CHARGES …….. DENY THAT ONE TOO WHY DONT YOU DANI
AND IF HORROR OF HORRORS THEY DID FIRE SOME ROGUE MISSILES THAT HAVE HIT MAINLY EMPTY COUNTRY SIDE ……… THAT CAN IN NO WAY JUSTIFY THE COMPLETE BOMBARDMENT AND DESTRUCTION OF (AT THIS STAGE ONLY) THE SOUTHERN AND EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTRY AND KILLING 1000s (AND THE RUBBLE HASNT EVEN BEEN DUG UP YET) AND DISPLACING OVER 1,000,000
August 10th, 2006 at 5:37 am
PMPLROTF at Dani
Wow talk about making up stories to suit your needs. Where is your proof of this theory, other than it being self serving to the Israelis and the US, to help alleviate their guilt at the horrendous murderous war crimes both nations have committed in the name of the ‘War on Terror’. Wake up and smell the blood dudes …….. Or are you telling us to believe your theory as the TRUTH (You know like georgy porgy convinced the stupid in the world on the WMD in Iraq….. WHAT A JOKE)
You know what Dani, I’ve decided that I will ignore you and your manic zionist ravings, because t